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#1698 - 03/11/05 01:50 PM Re: How credible is this Forum?
lumezi sandi Offline
Sakhamuzi

Registered: 04/15/03
Posts: 75
Loc: dayaspora
the idea of this forum was a very noble and commendable gesture to give voice to the voiceless unfortunately its been hijacked by some individuals who think they can bulldoze their opinions(note their opinions) on a number of issues.as i said in one of my previous postings it is only fools who resort to names calling when they run out of ammunition.for argurment sake lets say iam a bus driver repeatedly calling me a bus driver (as if buses can drive themselves)repeatedly boggles my mind. a person should be judged by the quality of his posts/ideas and not the amount of noise he makes on this platform .unfortunately a good number of people i know have been scared away from this platform by "owners " of this platform who think they have opinionson every topic under the sun

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#1699 - 03/11/05 05:50 PM Re: How credible is this Forum?
NYASOMBI Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 09/28/03
Posts: 46
Loc: MONTREAL
Abelungu bathi ?if it ain?t broke then don?t fix-it?. Mina ngokwami ngibona angani inkundla iright injalo. The fact that we are talking about credibility without Sibalukhulu closing down the topic should be commended. There are many things that are positive about inkundla. Things like,

1. IsiNdebele ? Mina ngokwami ngacina ukubhala/ukubala iSiNdebele ngiqenda uform 4. After that everything went downhill the media in Zimba didn?t emphasize much on the language. The language was almost dying as far as l was concerned. Those who are old enough will remember that there was once a newspaper called ?Umthunywa/Kwayedza? that used to report news in SiNdebele/Shona. After sometime the Ndebele part was dropped and it remained largely Shona. Inkundla has put to shame those that were happy to see Ndebele language ?die?. To all those who write their postings ngolimi lweSintu l say well done. Today iSiNdebele siyaphambimbili ngenxa yenu leNkundla.

2. Cultural Identity ? Because of INkundla l have been able to confirm my family tree. This would not have been possible if iNkundla was not credible.

3. News ? I get most of the news about what is happening in Mthwakazi on the forum.

4. Mthwakazi Political Opinions ? I have had opportunity to discuss topics that wouldn?t be discussed by Zimbo politicians or media in Zimba without censorship. Free speech indeed!!!. I have no doubt in my mind that prominent politicians in ZPF and indeed Jonah Moyo do log into the Forum. The problem to them perhaps is that they don?t understand the language ? iSiNdebele?

5. Brothers/Relatives ? I have been lucky enough to identify brothers on the Forum.

Perhaps the only down side to Forum is that members are contributing from all over the globe and l agree with those that say there is need for people to meet. I guess it would be a lot easier coz from reading postings its easier know how some members feel about any particular topic.

Lastly, Mthwakazi l say heated arguments will always be there on the Forum but that doesn?t mean that there is no credibility. As for me l say ours is credible forum. I repeat if it ain?t broke them don?t fix-it.

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#1700 - 03/12/05 04:11 AM Re: How credible is this Forum?
Zwangendaba Offline
Nkosi
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Registered: 04/27/03
Posts: 1399
Loc: New York, New York, USA
Bafowethu.

Inkundla iloku kholeka uqobo. Indaba ezinengi lapha kusukela kwezo mdabu, kuze ezempilakahle, ezomculo, kanye labalobi bengwalo, zindaba ezicwaningiweyo. Legama lilobufakazi, INKUNDLA. Enkundleni awudingi ukuthi kukhulunywe abantu bevumelana kodwa. Lapho okudingwa ukuvunyelwana khona ye, asivumelaneni. Lapho kulempikiswano khona kuqondile njalo.

Indaba yesibili ngeye nhlanganiso zombangazwe. Ye, manengi amalunga ezombangazwe lapha eNkundleni. Kodwa kulokuthi siguqule iNkundla ibe yinhlanganiso yombangazwe, kuzacisha ijele layo. Ijele leNkundla yikuletha imibono ehlukeneyo. Inhlanganiso zombangazwe zilezinqumo ezehlukeneyo. Yikho siyabe sesixotsha abanye lapha enkundleni.

MINA NGOMBONO WAMI, KUNGCONO KWENZIWE A FEDERATION OF THOSE POLITICAL PARTIES, NJENGALOKHU OKWENZIWA YI P.L.O. YASE PALESTINE. AND THAT SHOULD BE OUTSIDE THE PARAMETERS OF INKUNDLA.

Ngaleyo ndlela sizakhulula iNkundla iqhube umsebenzi wayo omuhle wokuhlanganisa isizwe lapho sehlukana khona.

Lami sengike ngaba leyami imibhalo eyacitshwa ngusibalukhulu. Eqondile njalo. Kodwa ekuqaleni ngangingayizwisisi le ndaba. Ngabhalelana laye uSibalukhulu ensitha. Wangichasisela. Nganxapha kodwa ngakubona ukuthi kuqondile akwenzayo KULESO SIKHATHI.

Ekweluseni sasi qwaqwazana bafowethu. Kodwa ilanga litshona sasizibutha sonke inkomo siyezivalela sisonke.

Singafani lo M-G-A-X-A-B-E okuthiwa ngu Chikerema wayebaleka ekweluseni ayecatsha ngezidwaba zikanina baze bamuthi ngu "SINZWENGA MUTSHWAYIRO" "UMAVIK' UMTHANYELO." Njengoba uzabelokhu ebhoda lonina nxa ethanyela iguma.

Ayiqhubeke inkundla as it is.

Li Zwangendaba.

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#1701 - 03/12/05 04:37 PM Re: How credible is this Forum?
SINATHAMAHEWU Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/27/02
Posts: 632
Loc: The Republic of Mthwakazi
Bakithi there are some who believe that this forum will only be declared as credible in their eyes only when its members embraces the sell-out Moyo but this is really misguided indeed. This forum is credible and what is not credible is those individuals who are associated with the evil that is ZPF or those who have defended it. This forum ngeyeSizwe and its credbility is beyond questioning.

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#1702 - 03/12/05 06:16 PM Re: How credible is this Forum?
Siphepheli Offline
Ndunankulu
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Registered: 05/27/04
Posts: 741
Loc: Khonaph'ya Enkangala
Is credibility not a social construction? Is it dependant on structures or agency? What will it take for our forum to be deemed credible?

Maybe this will happen the day I kneel down and appreciate ukuthi sonke sahlukene kodwa ukwahlukana kwethu kunjenge mibala yomchilo wamakhosikazi. The rainbow is only beautiful for the different colours in it.

Maybe when I can stop creating fathoms in my mind who I then call "enemies".

Maybe when I learn ukubuka okuhle ngenhliziyo yami yonke emhlophe, ngisole okubi ngemfanelo ngingakhethile ukuthi kuvele kubani.

Maybe when I learn ukuthi kusinwa kudedelwana, lokuthi ngizelwe emzini omkhulu

Ayihlome bakwethu.

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#1703 - 03/13/05 04:05 AM Re: How credible is this Forum?
Mthoko Offline
Sikhulu

Registered: 02/04/04
Posts: 237
Loc: G Skweya P.O Box Loxion
When you get people like Tsunami then you know the credibility of the forum is threatened. Can someone inform him that we are sick of his pictures...

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#1704 - 03/13/05 06:28 AM Re: How credible is this Forum?
Mabhidliza Tsunami Gagasi Offline
Sikhulu

Registered: 01/20/04
Posts: 286
Loc: Next Door
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Yikuphi okuwisa icredibility, phakathi kwemipikitsha lokutshaya amarecord eDe-Gong ilanga lonke ngeSonto????


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Great ideas often receive violent opposition from mediocre minds.

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#1705 - 03/13/05 10:01 AM Re: How credible is this Forum?
Dabukamhlaba Offline
Nduna
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Registered: 04/30/04
Posts: 372
Loc: RSA
inkundla should be free from any PRIVATE political agendas and dreams.thina si discuss lapha ngoba silezinto ezinengi esifisa ukukhuluma ngazo, not to be restricted to the boring and long political contributions.

okunye futhi, inkundla leyi akufanelanga ibe ngazani ngeyabanye abantu.siyafana sonke lapha.

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#1706 - 03/13/05 02:13 PM Re: How credible is this Forum?
Siphepheli Offline
Ndunankulu
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Registered: 05/27/04
Posts: 741
Loc: Khonaph'ya Enkangala
Hk hk hk hk hk hk.

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#1707 - 03/13/05 02:23 PM Re: How credible is this Forum?
songxaba89 Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 9
Loc: coventry
Thanx guys for rising this topic i think iNkundla is one of the best things that has ever happened to Mthwakazi. I think wat Mdushy and Maqha have said is very important. People will always come up with ideas but if nothing is done the only outcome is frustration, exhaustion and disillusionment. There is a danger that this forum will end up being a talkshop where people come and go with their brilliant ideas.There is no doubt that a lot of us have benefited from this forum but it will take maturity, respect and not disdain for other people and unity to achieve the ultimate goal of establishing an independent Mthwakazi.

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