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#28184 - 05/28/04 06:46 PM Re: Yikuphi okungcono
inina Offline
Sakhamuzi

Registered: 05/18/04
Posts: 62
Loc: tsholotsho
mina bakwethu lam disillusioned by this talk of being a totally anti shona crudade. my disillusion emanated from notably and vociferous mthwakaziyans practising the exact opposite of what they preach in our forums.at one time l for one was of a total conviction not to corrupt my beautful toungue through talking shona. even at college l had made it a point to strictly lecture in english and nothing else.l was totally flambergasted to see one of the high ranking pro mthwakazi exponent openly convesing with his shona friends in perfect shona. worse still this was happening in bulawayo at NUST . we were attending a gvm symposium on gender empowerment,most of the shona dignatories were university lectures and worse some of them were teaching in bulawayo.Later during the week l communicated with him and expressed my displeasure at his betrayal of our cause. Bakwethu lundoda ohloniphekayo njalo he is an active participant of this forum said 'who among the ndebele can assert truthfully that they have never talked in shona, njalo his shona friends are academics , people who do not know any tribal divide, and also if he had difficulties whether socially of financial it is his shona friends who come to his aid,'.he emphasisedb that l should not take seriously things l read in forums becoz most of the participants are foreign based armchair politicians, who want to ignite an inferno in zimbabwe yet they are in comfort of european countries who granted them refugee status.It is these wavering stances from you bobaba okwenza ukuthi thina amanina singaboni i essence of your struggle. we want to be firmly behind you if you demostrate firmness of purpose and be resolute. but if you enjoy talking and yet practise the oppositte, why blAme us when we marry the shona?

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#28185 - 05/29/04 12:14 AM Re: Yikuphi okungcono
GESTAPO Offline
Ngqwele

Registered: 01/18/04
Posts: 157
Loc: Mosul
ININA

may you pliz read Lobengula's posting entitled Dr Joshua Nkomo.. . read the last two paragraphs.

well on shona academics who befriend the double-tongued Ndebele proponent, i'll not comment.

shonas will never view a Ndebele as an equal,lokho khohlwa mama/baba.

Mthwakazi's rejuvination does not require academics, we need specialists, artisans, technicians with functional knowledge.

asiyifuni indaba yokugijimela eChina leMalaysia for half-backed mass producers who have since utilised mgodoyi as their dumping ground.

as for amafuji[refugees,not directed to u inina but to all those who have qualms about amafuji]. it took men and women and their families to heed to mapfumos' ilizwe selizintshaka[shona version]. and left. yet, academics are still hoping, one day, at mgodoyi.

mafuji ibook phambili when we get our independence your expertise will be an assert. ekhaya sasigqitshwa ngama-arts now amasangwavuliwe the sky is not even the limit Mars has been entered. while you enjoy protection lomsobho wamahala enjoy free education and health too, lama-dollar shop lawo njalo.

le-Ndaa liyibambe majaha lezalukazi lizesula manina sizamele oNo labaSipho badle.

mina ngingedwa ngithi phansi ngamashona whether nga-academics or what. we want functional knwoledge. mina asengikufunde ngapha eMosul yikuhlinza abalezifo basuka sebejangqula njengamathole and soon they'll be calling me a surgeon, oh great, komgodoyi they called me a rebellious student coz i wanted my grant.

nina this was not a response to your posting but jus reading between the lines hope mine too will be receiprocated.

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#28186 - 05/29/04 11:17 AM Re: Yikuphi okungcono
Skuvethe Offline
Nduna

Registered: 10/23/03
Posts: 405
Loc: I've never been to Heaven
Inina dade, ungakhathali ngo ndoda lo "ohloniphekayo", he is the dangerous type elula ukusetshenziswa ngabe Tshabi. Ufuna uncedo laye lu ndoda, ungatshintshi wena ngoba ubona izenzo zakhe ezimbi. I'm glad you challenged him too.

That is what abaTshabi have done to us. They have made us have self-doubt, no belief in our own abilities. Some of us even refute ukuthi Mthwakazi was a country on her own only 200 years ago.

I hope uzavimba dade, ungalandeli imali yeGazi, ufundile wena thola isoka leSintwini lithuthukisane ngamandla wenu libabili. Ingoma yo mzabalazo iyakhala dade.

Wena ndoda otshiwo ngu dade, uyayangisa pthuu!

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#28187 - 05/29/04 10:08 PM Re: Yikuphi okungcono
Mabila Offline
Nkosi
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Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 2124
Loc: Ayowa
Bayethe Mthwakazi Omuhle! Angize ngathanda ukubona ingxoxo enhle ilahleka ingazalanga mntwana. Indaba eqalwe ngu Alwande lapha ngeyokuthathana sodwa singabantu besintwini. Ngiyayikhwabitha lindaba ngoba yakha uMthwakazi. Ngesilingu bathi ifamily unit yiyo ibasis yobuntu bethu. Kulapho abantwana abafunda knona ukuthi bango MaSi, oMaSkho lamajaha afunda khona ukuthi angoMdawini and Mthembu etc..

Engikuzwe kuqala kuvela kubodade yisifiso esokuthi aluba kuyalungiswa indlela zokuthi abantu babonane, bakhombisane bathathane nxa kulunga. Lina selisona ngokugijimela inhlamba...Mayuyu Mthwakazi, asilungiseni amathuba okuhlangana. Kuqakathekile kakhulu lokhu kimi lakuMthwakazi kakhulu. Aluba nga kuyatholakala indlela yokuthi abadingayo bazane baxoxe...Ukhona na onganceda kulokhu? Kulapho eselizabuzana khona owakhoba iShona lowakhombisa iNigerian. Don't be too judgemental ngoba ubone usisi oyedwa ekhombe iJama ubususithi bonke banjalo. Asincedisananeni sibe lesi nqumo!

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