Inkundla3
Who's Online
0 registered (), 29 Guests and 1 Spider online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Ad
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#28262 - 07/16/04 02:15 PM Life expectancy falls to 33!
Potshoza Offline
Nduna

Registered: 08/20/01
Posts: 481
Loc: Leamington Spa
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/3894733.stm

<img src="http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/04/world_human_development_report_2004/img/1.jpg" alt=" - " />

Dying young: The HIV/Aids crisis in Sub-Saharan Africa has caused the life expectancy in some countries to plummet dramatically. In the worst hit countries a child born between 2000-2005 has a much lower average life expectancy than one born in the early 1970s.

Top
#28263 - 07/19/04 08:17 AM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
hlathi81 Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 10/14/03
Posts: 574
Loc: gwanda..
this is serious <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

manje siyezeni bakwethu?mina angisakwazi ukuthi indaba le yeHIV/AIDS sithini ngayo.it seems to contiune growing and everyone knows about it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

angisakwazi manje.what is the way forward?

-------------------------
'an idle mind is a devil's workshop'

Top
#28264 - 07/20/04 02:04 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Ndabezitha Offline
Sikhulu

Registered: 11/07/03
Posts: 268
Loc: T.O
Ukuzibamba yikho okuzasinceda. akula muthi ongaqeda lumkhuhlane.

Top
#28265 - 07/21/04 03:00 AM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
GESTAPO Offline
Ngqwele

Registered: 01/18/04
Posts: 157
Loc: Mosul
omunye undoda kwathi kusenziwa amaparty eAids eharare (AIDS CONF) sekudliwa walanda uweta wesikirimane wamtshela ukuthi yena kadli ingulube lamadada wamphendula wathi "baya paunodya chete" okutsho ukuthi hlaba lapho odla khona kuphela. ngoba kwakulodedangendlale wetafula ugcwele inhlobo zonke zokudla kambe ibuya ingamamillion ivela phetsheya.

simple majaha hlaba lapho odla khona kuphela

Top
#28266 - 07/21/04 06:55 AM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Dokotela Offline
Nkosi
***

Registered: 05/11/04
Posts: 1304
Loc: Emkhathini
Indaba le yiyo enkulu kakhule okwedlula zonke khona eAfrika.

Kumele uwonkewonke engeze ama principles okuthi lo ahlangana laye akekho clean as they look. the first assumption must be of the worst and thing that will follow may not reach the intercourse or any form of sex.

Okunye ngumoy' omubi wabantu owo kuthi angifuni ukufa ngedwa. Abanye kunge nxa yemali, they get support from a married infected man who they will have to give their yoyo to balance the equation. in most cases these girls think that they are the only ones and probably they will eventually get married to this man. They may even be knowing that the man is married but not bothering to know their HIV status. More than 95% cases are of voluntary sex.

Top
#28267 - 07/21/04 02:17 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
sgebengu Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 05/26/04
Posts: 46
Loc: harare
i have never contributed on the forum but have been following the discussions on all topics and i am glad that there is a platform that can allow abantu to express concerns and share ideas about important issues one of which is hiv,analysed properly it is clear that i aids has managed to conveneintly establish a niche of survival perpatuated by people's inability to deal with something that has a long prodrome before manifestation ,this has challenged the traditional views of an illness whereby you can tell that someone is ill from the symptomatology they will present with.in this light it aparent that people still find it hard to inco-operate the idea of a career state(hiv +ve)into their decision making machinery and so have regressed into a state of playing it by the eye(if ever such athing exists).yes it is true that so much information and money is poured into so many of these so called hiv action groups but is the money getting to where its supposed to get(how many hiv +ve people are part of the executives of these groups).the concept of behaviour change is a very complicated one and one has to go through a series of stages before finally saying they have managed to change from a risky behaviour to a more conjusive one.untill such a time when people are equiped with the skills to successsfuly undergoe this process of change then we will all die ,it is not important that we know the statistics and the complicated virology ,immunology and the pathology of the disease if we cannot adjust our behaviour accordingly.we have to understand that you cannot say you will look after your self and hope not to get aids as if you live in a vaccum,the concept of herd immunity comes into play ,if there are more people in the community who are behaving positively then the disease will become hardre to spread and untill such a point in time when we realise that state we might as well wait for our turns

Top
#28268 - 07/21/04 03:09 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Mabila Offline
Nkosi
***

Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 2124
Loc: Ayowa
Well said Sgebengu. The HIV issue is a very complex one. I normally take the view that if you know for certain today that you are HIV negetive, then you have no excuse to be positive. Mechanisms are in place for you to check your status regularly and to make life choices that limit the chances of you getting the disease. It becomes difficult I guess in controlling the behaviour of your spouse, but don't just choose any spouse. Celibacy could be an option <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

We cannot definitely hope for behaviour change if we target everyone with the same strategy. Everyone group or cohort must have specific strategies. There was talk at some stage of the AIDS free generation referring to those born between 1980-1984 as being that generation. That assumed they were born of AIDS free couples and were not sexually active themselves, so the strategy was to catch them b4 they were sexually active. Whether that succeeded or not, am not sure because now they are doing it and are definitely being infected in numbers.

How do we have HIV positive people leading AIDS programs when testing is a matter of life and death. In Zimbabwe it's a death sentence literally because of the unavailability of anti-retrovirals to the general populace. I wouldn't test. I would rather live as I am seemingly healthy and wait for doom's day.

One of the ways we need to address as a people is courtship. How do boys and gilrs court? Esintwini siyabethusela besebephuma ngama windi ebusuku. If you ask a lot of women about they first sexual experience, it was more or less rape! It was not by consent. Are we educating boys and girls about what they do when they are together without necessarily jumbping into bed. We need to address the whole area of relationships from early to late adulthood.

Top
#28269 - 07/22/04 06:04 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Saduva Offline
Ngqwele

Registered: 06/20/02
Posts: 145
Loc: Khonale
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> If you ask a lot of women about they first sexual experience, it was more or less rape! It was not by consent. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mabila mama, ukhuluma njengowes' fazane(ngoba unguyena impela) kodwa ithi ngikutshele mina njenge soka.

Nxa uthole intombi engakaze yalala lendoda, kunzima ukuthi kungabi le degree yoku fostela. Akusikubamba inkunzi engikutshoyo, lingizwe kahle.

With a virgin, ngimane ngithintise umkhonto wami nje maye, umkhosi ophuma lapho! Kuthiwa, hayi wenaa, kubuhlungu khonapho ngiyabe ngingaka gwazi!

Yikho Mabila, ungalinda untombi liyatshona kumbe liphume ilanga ulokhe ungenzanga lutho, kodwa yena efuna, evumile njalo esazi ukuthi mhlalokho, kuyavulwa, nomakanjani. Asidlame mama, yi necessary step.

Angazi kumbe ngiyazwakala na?

Top
#28270 - 07/22/04 06:18 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Mabila Offline
Nkosi
***

Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 2124
Loc: Ayowa
Saduva <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Kumele ulinde. Kanti ujaheni Saduva? Uyaziveza ukuthi between the two wena nguwe who is out of control usuze usebenzisa lamandla ufostela! Amandla ngawani? Ukuncenga sekwaya ngaphi? Wazi ngani ukuthi yena uyafuna? U Mike Tyson wafela into encane nje!

Top
#28271 - 07/23/04 03:37 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
sgebengu Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 05/26/04
Posts: 46
Loc: harare
Mabila i totally agree with you it seems the specific arrangement of our culture is creating that information gap for the youth such that substitutes like tv and the internet are taking over as the educators but unfortunately these are market driven and customer orientated and seem to espouse the ideas of freedom of choice and sexual liberty .in essence ther is no society that is impervious to the effects of aids but close scrutiny will reveal that some are more vulnerable than others .i have come to the conclusion that it is because of hybrid cultural fusion that we are in this quandrary,we seem willing to take a liberal and western stance on sexuality but still refuse to take the same stance about sex education and the consequences of sex to our children,african children are brought up by their parents as if they do not have penises or vaginas but you will have to agree with me that most of you new about intercourse probably before we went to school(ukuganga we used to call it),it should therefore only make sense that for a population that is going to be sexualised at almost as early an age as the west we sure are very mum to our children about issues regarding sexual feelings .sex is a natural thing that is arranged on some kind of reflex designed to perpetuate the species and provide pleasure as the reward,so it is only natural that sometimes humans behave irrationally when it comes to sex matters .
this is a very complicated issue and one that requires abantu to think lateraly.we would need to encourage unconvetional ways to deal with this crisis.i would advocate that young people be encouraged to masterbate if and when the sexual urge is threatenign to override them,celibacy and abstinence are very romantic and hardly ever practised by those who preache them (sorry Mabila),you just have to remember how it felt like when you were a teenager and your homones where raging like a rodeo show ,its very difficult .
even very consevative societies like muslim nations have hidden hiv epidemics probably worse than zim,an example is Iran,this just further scores the point that we need to explore ways that will make behaviour change possible
ng'qedile

Top
#28272 - 07/25/04 12:42 AM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Mabila Offline
Nkosi
***

Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 2124
Loc: Ayowa
S'gebengu

Ungaqeda njani before we explore how we can assist our communities with positive behaviour change strategies that will impact the youth in particular. We nned to save intsha yakusasa.

Asazi kumbe in our midst silabo abazi ngama cultural practices esintiwni that could be harnessed to inform and equip the youth about sexual behaviours that could mitigate against the spread of this horrible, horrible illness.Sesiphelile and seliphelelwe.

I am not even sure the extent to which sex education is being taught in primary schools in Zim. Does anyone know kumbe yi hondo yeminda kuphela efundwayo?

Top
#28273 - 07/25/04 01:55 AM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Bhudaza Offline
Ndunankulu
*****

Registered: 11/09/02
Posts: 586
Loc: Byo, Mthwakazi
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Mabila:
<strong> S'gebengu

Asazi kumbe in our midst silabo abazi ngama cultural practices esintiwni that could be harnessed to inform and equip the youth about sexual behaviours that could mitigate against the spread of this horrible, horrible illness.Sesiphelile and seliphelelwe.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dade,

Ngokubona kwami elethu isiko eAfulika jikelele yilo elenza abantu baphele. Ikakhulu izithembo loku ngenana. Lokho ke kufuze kuphele. Kusenjalo omama kumele bafundise abantwababo ngama jambo (condoms) njengoba kade befundiswa ezinye izinto ngonina eziphathelane lokukhulula. Labobaba kunjalo. Kumele umntwana afundiswe ukuthi ukuze akhulise isibongo sakwabo, azibambe kumbe njalo angaqali ukuya emacansini engayigqokanga i khondomu.

Top
#28274 - 07/26/04 12:25 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
sgebengu Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 05/26/04
Posts: 46
Loc: harare
mabila
i do not know if our culture which is patriachal and as such characterised by the inequity of application of certain customs,can evolve into one that accommodates the issue yeAIDS,as noted by the post above men in their dominance of african women have constantly enforced things that are more sexual in nature serving to reveal the primary drive behind these practises of polygamy and the like.i culture yethu is providing an agar for this pathogen ngoba as long as it is acceptable for man to marry many wives how then are we going to be able to tell our kids to be celibate or monogamise.cultuer is dynamic and we need to take this dynamism a gear ahead ngoba it is stupid to uphold certain customs while ignoring others ,historically man never used to pick up women from pubs but you will be surprisedukuthi the same group of man will be in the fore front of advocating for i polygamy and related customs.
Angazi mabila if you know of any of our customs still in existence and with the capacity to curb the spread ng'tshela.ngiyaxolisa i did not mean ukuthi i had finnished my contribution for good .lets talk some more

Top
#28275 - 07/27/04 12:09 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Potshoza Offline
Nduna

Registered: 08/20/01
Posts: 481
Loc: Leamington Spa
On the subject of condoms, the Catholic church has long been telling people that they should put LOVE and RESPECT above condoms. That is, it's more important to push for restraint and self respect including less promiscuity than just to push for a message of condoms. Obviously the human race cannot be trusted a lot on this, but people nowadays will have affairs when they are married and think that it's OK as long as they are 'practicing safe sex' when it's not.

Top
#28276 - 07/27/04 12:32 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Mabila Offline
Nkosi
***

Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 2124
Loc: Ayowa
I agree totally with Bhudaza and Sgero that if we look to our current cultural practices in this whole issue of AIDS, it will be to our utter demise. Kodwa yisizwe bani esiphatha imizi yaso ngokuthunyezelwa ama condom from abroad, that we can't even pay for ourselves and be proud of that.
It is a shame.

Cde Potshoza, you are correct, it is in this whole question of moral values where we are found totally in want. I remember kusathiwa long distance bus drivers are the problem in the spread of AIDS ngoba bahamba be dobha amalewu indlela yonke. The problem is not being a long distance but drives, but the permissive standard of our moral values. It is exactly what the scriptors of this horrible illness have so ingeniously attacked and succeeded in doing. Condoms are not even safe. A recent study in Harare showed ukuthi nxa sekunathwiwe utshwala ema night club, alikhunjulwa. After a month in a relationship, couples stop using condoms kuthiwa we now trust each other. Condoms cannot be a permanent solution. Kusamele abantu bakhweze nje our moral standards and practices. The question is how do we do that? Where do we start that process?

Ngike ngabuza ngaphambilini ukuthi how much sex education has been introduced in primary schools at home. How much sex do we talk labantwabethu in our homes.

Top
#28277 - 07/27/04 12:44 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Mabila Offline
Nkosi
***

Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 2124
Loc: Ayowa
Phepha Sgebengu ngitsho wena hatshi uSgero ngephezulu la. Uzangigxhoba bantu. Phepha lawe Sgero!

Top
#28278 - 07/27/04 01:02 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Muntongenakudla Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 649
Loc: Mtubatuba
Mabandla kaMjokwane

Mina ngibona sengathithi ububha ibona obubhebhethekisa isifo sikamashayabhuqe, ingculazi. As long as uquqaba lwakithi lubhekane nalobububha esikubona, ingculaza izobhoka, ishabalalise isizwe.

Mzwakwethu, sibhekane nengwadla. Sibhekane nenkiyankiya. Leligcikwane liyingozi, liyinkinga, liqed&#8217; ukwenza. Lisabalalisa amadoda, libhuqe imizi, ivalwe.

Izingane azisakwazi ukuziphatha. Ma ufika laphaya kwaBulawayo uphuma eMzansi ngemoto emanzi, abantwana bathi cwi kuwena, kuhle kwenyosi zibona imbali enhle. Konke lokhu kubangwa ukuthi bathande impilo yakho ebukeka isemgangathweni. Ngesingabo, basuka bacabange ukuthi uzobatakula, ubasuse ebubheni baKwaMgodoyi, ubayise phakathi komhlane nembeleko waseGoli.

Lokhu kucabanga kwamantombazane kuyize leze madoda. Sesifikile isikhathi sokuba siveze obala ukuthi ayikho indlela eyakwampumelelo elula. Noma namhlanje ngihamba ngemoto emanzi, makucaciswe ukuthi lemoto ayizanga kalula. Makucace kubodade abasebancane ukuthi ukuzilahlela kimina akuyona i-passport yakwampumelelo. Ukunginikeza inkomo yakho bukhoma njengoba injalo, kungekho ijazi lomkhwenyana, akuyona indlela yokukhombisa uthando. Makucace kubodadewethu abasebancane ukuthi ukuba ngodikwayo (free-for-all) kubafana baseJozi akunambuyiselo. Isigcino yibona odade laba abazithola sebebhekane nengwadla yezisu ezingenabanikazi kunye negcikwane lesandulela ngculazi.

Odadewethu abancane bayasihlaza madoda. Bakhathaza imimoya yabazali. Ngiyacela mzwakwethu, ngiyanxusa &#8211; mabakhuzwe, bahlukane nokuthanda izinto! Ukuthanda izinto lokhu kobacwebisa izinyembezi emphakathini, kubayise kwagoqwanyawo besebancane. Mabaqinele ezikoleni, hhayi emadodeni!

Khuzani bandla!

uMntongenakudla kaNgogwane waKwaDlangezwa.
Inkwali yenkosi.

Inxangiphilile.
KwelikaMthaniya.

Top
#28279 - 07/27/04 01:43 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Mabila Offline
Nkosi
***

Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 2124
Loc: Ayowa
Mnewethu ngicelisisa sibili uchaze imbali yakho le ngesilungu. This is a very important issue, kemele sithole onke ama contribution akho.

Uthi wena ukhala ngama ntombazana athanda izinto. Kulaba fana abancane labo abathanda osugar mummy ngoba labo bethanda izinto. Asekeleni ifinger pointing sihlanganise amakhanda. Izosiqeda sonke lento le!

Top
#28280 - 07/27/04 02:45 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Muntongenakudla Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 649
Loc: Mtubatuba
Mabila

Sothole!
Sogodi!
Mcwayo!
Wena wakwaKhanyile!
Okhanyis' izindlela zonke!

'Imbali' yigama lesiZulu elisho phecelezi, a flower!

Kusenjalo nje, angikaze ngihlangane nabafanyana abazifela komagogogo kwelikaMthwakazi. Angazi njalo - mhlasimbe bakhona.
Kodwa angiboni - abafana bezithanda kanje! Bona omagogo abanemali bangaki kwaBulawayo, ububha bubhoke kanje?

uMntongenakudla kaNgogwane waKwaDlangezwa.
Inkwali yenkosi.

Inxangiphilile.
KwelikaMthaniya.

Top
#28281 - 07/27/04 03:27 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Mabila Offline
Nkosi
***

Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 2124
Loc: Ayowa
Wena ovela koMtubatuba!

Ungacathsi ngomunwe! Awungiphendulanga! Phendula engikucelileyo <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
Uzibonele lawe ukuthi lami ngiyasikhutha isiZulu.

Top
#28282 - 07/28/04 06:18 AM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Muntongenakudla Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 649
Loc: Mtubatuba
Mabila

Sothole!
Sogodi!
Mcwayo!
Wena wakwaKhanyile!
Okhanyis' izindlela zonke!


Ngizohumusha izimvo zami ezingenhla, phecelezi (In other words, I will interpret my opinions above)

Mabandla kaMjokwane (nation of Mjokwane)

I believe poverty is the main cause of the increase of HIV AIDS. As long as the masses are facing poverty, HIV AIDS will spread and decimate the nation.

My family, we are facing a big threat. We&#8217;re facing a perplexing issue. This virus is dangerous, perplexing and confusing. It sends men scurrying, it destroys homes.

Young girls can no longer exercise self restraint. On getting to Bulawayo from South Africa, in a sleek car, young girls crowd on you in the mould of bees descending on a blooming flower. This, in the aspiration of being part of your seemingly progressive lifestyle. They seem to believe you&#8217;re their Messiah, to rescue them from Mgo&#8217;s poverty, into the life of milk and honey in Johannesburg.

These girls&#8217; mindset is wrong and false. The time has come for you to show them that there&#8217;s no easy path to success. The posh car I&#8217;m driving today didn&#8217;t come easy. Let it be clear to those young girls that throwing themselves on my lap is not the passport to success. Being intimate with me, without a condom, is not proof of love. It must be made clear to these girls that being of easy virtue, a free-for-all Johannesburg boys has no gain. In the end, these very girls will find themselves facing the obstacle of an unaccounted for pregnancy and HIV.

Young girls embarrass us. They torment the hearts and minds of our parents. I ask and implore you my family &#8211; caution these girls to stop having unnecessary desires for good things that come easy. This love for good things that come easy will only lead them to pain and tragedy. Let them concentrate on their school work &#8211; and not on men!

Caution them good people!

Ngithemba wenelisekile. Kepha, ngiseyimfundamakhwela kulomkhakha wokuhumusha. Ungethuki ma uthe wahlangana namaphutha kulohlaka olungenhla. Ngisabhimba - ubuxhwe busemagange!

uMntongenakudla kaNgogwane waKwaDlangezwa.
Inkwali yenkosi.

Inxangiphilile.
KwelikaMthaniya.

Top
#28283 - 07/28/04 01:28 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
sgebengu Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 05/26/04
Posts: 46
Loc: harare
recent surveys in the united kingdom have shown a rise in the number of hiv cases in the country and postulated a further unquantified number of undiagnosed cases.the reasons for this have been immigrants coming from africa especially subsaharan africa and also i sex tourism eyenzwa ngabengisi who go to africa to taste blck sex.of the newly diagnosed cases it is said that i zim contributes more than 50% and this is saying a lot considering we are not hte only immigrants coming into the u.k.from an epidemiological point of view thereis a potential disaster for uk because as the africans come in they have sexual relations with the afrocarribeans who have been here for longer and as such have access also to white sexual partners,there is also the apetite by white women for black man especially the ones from africa and in this manner the disease is permeating british society and i think they have a problem in their hands . i have not yet seen an electronic media frenzy about it but it would be very interesting to see how it will be handled ,they had mooted plans to test all immigrants but i think they are backtracking coz they fear driving illegal immigratio and the epidemic underground.
this should serve as a warning that noma sise England or usa or canada bantu ingculaza ikhona kasizibhekeni kahle.
Ironically having an increase in the number of aids cases in the u.k and developed nations in general could be the answer to africas problems,believe me when these people put resources and manpower into something they mean business.
ciao!!!!

Top
#28284 - 07/28/04 01:28 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
sgebengu Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 05/26/04
Posts: 46
Loc: harare
recent surveys in the united kingdom have shown a rise in the number of hiv cases in the country and postulated a further unquantified number of undiagnosed cases.the reasons for this have been immigrants coming from africa especially subsaharan africa and also i sex tourism eyenzwa ngabengisi who go to africa to taste blck sex.of the newly diagnosed cases it is said that i zim contributes more than 50% and this is saying a lot considering we are not hte only immigrants coming into the u.k.from an epidemiological point of view thereis a potential disaster for uk because as the africans come in they have sexual relations with the afrocarribeans who have been here for longer and as such have access also to white sexual partners,there is also the apetite by white women for black man especially the ones from africa and in this manner the disease is permeating british society and i think they have a problem in their hands . i have not yet seen an electronic media frenzy about it but it would be very interesting to see how it will be handled ,they had mooted plans to test all immigrants but i think they are backtracking coz they fear driving illegal immigratio and the epidemic underground.
this should serve as a warning that noma sise England or usa or canada bantu ingculaza ikhona kasizibhekeni kahle.
Ironically having an increase in the number of aids cases in the u.k and developed nations in general could be the answer to africas problems,believe me when these people put resources and manpower into something they mean business.
ciao!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Top
#28285 - 07/28/04 01:49 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Mabila Offline
Nkosi
***

Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 2124
Loc: Ayowa
Mtongenakudla

Ngikubonga kakhulu nge nqcazelo yakho entsha. Sengikuzwe oqotho manje. I am very gald in your posting that you allude to POVERTY in your posting as forcing these young girls into prostitution. To me though, poverty should not be the excuse for loose marals. If people think laterally, kunengi abangakwenza. It is a complex problem. You deny the sugar mommy syndrome...I have not seen it either, but have heard it mentioned on several fora again for the same reasons of poverty.

Sgebengu the scenario oyilethayo iyethusa. We are not going to see the down side of this disease.
Manje kuthiweni? I am sad to say this is a lost battle. The west is still to find a cure for cancer after all these years of expensive research, khohlwa ngeye AIDS!

Top
#28286 - 07/28/04 02:25 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
sgebengu Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 05/26/04
Posts: 46
Loc: harare
there are actualy alot of technologies that have been developed for cancer treatment ,ideed some cancers can be completely cured by chemotherapy alone(combination of cytotoxic drugs that attack neoplastic cell because of their high mitotic turnover)some can be cured by chemotherapy combined with radiotherapy .recently there has been a new method that uses a virus designed to attack only cancerous cell and achieve full remission in a short space of time.also there is a new protein that recent high tech chromatography has identified as being secreted by most neoplasms from a preclinical stage.
you see mabila cancer is not one entity and for real these people have done so much in the line of i cancer research and indeed they have found some interesting things .pliz do not blow my bubble about i cure ye AIDS coz that is my only hope sisi,not that i have the disease but i see it as the only thing left for human kind. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

Top
#28287 - 07/28/04 02:35 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Mabila Offline
Nkosi
***

Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 2124
Loc: Ayowa
What virus has ever been cured Sgebengu! Le Flu is mutating everyday isidobha nsukuzonke!

Top
#28288 - 07/28/04 02:50 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
sgebengu Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 05/26/04
Posts: 46
Loc: harare
mabila because most viral infections remain at the latent stage or indeed go unnoticed there has'nt been a life and death situation with regards to viruses before the advent of aids.u know very well that before money is put into medical research ewspecially for new drugs it is first of all analysed how many people need that kind of service and would it make economic sense to embark on such a project.ther are many target points on the virus (reverse trancriptase enzyme,protease ,gp120 protein etc) i am sure even though it has a high mutation rate that makes the development of a vaccine tough but it is not impossible otherwise countries like soukth africa wouldnt be wasting money on so many trials.
come on mabila there is no harm in abit of optimism,maybe if more of their own are affected they could concentrate more on it , thats all i am saying <img border="0" alt="[wavey]" title="" src="graemlins/wavey.gif" />

Top
#28289 - 07/28/04 03:00 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Mabila Offline
Nkosi
***

Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 2124
Loc: Ayowa
Surely by now the world knows how many of us have died of AIDS and are still going to die. Lokhe sixhamanda nje kuvikwa ngawo lawo ma research and development strategies. Abantu kabazibambe PERIOD! Okwemithi lokhu yinkani Sgebengu...kholisani libe lidlala ngama testtube lama gundwane ema lab. Nxa selibuye layo leyo mitshana yenu, the ordinary person kayenelisi, lohulumende kayenelisi. It's a bleak future bantu! Beleive me, I am usually an optimist. Kodwa sisuke nini lento le 1985!

Top
#28290 - 07/28/04 03:08 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
sgebengu Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 05/26/04
Posts: 46
Loc: harare
because research is carried out by the west obviously releasing a new drug on the market means most african countries and thier people will not afford it ,but lets take a leaf from india which has developed its pharmaceutical industry to the extent of manufacturing all its drugs and expoting some which are very cheap than western brands but equally effective.
yes ngiyavuma sisi ukuzibamba is the best weapon for now, but no i am not enjoying in the lab ,i am out there constantly dodging the disease like everyone else.

Top
#28291 - 08/06/04 07:31 AM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
Bhudaza Offline
Ndunankulu
*****

Registered: 11/09/02
Posts: 586
Loc: Byo, Mthwakazi
Bush-meat trade breeds new HIV

19:00 04 August 04

Exclusive from New Scientist Print Edition. Subscribe and get 4 free issues.

The HIV virus has jumped from primates to people on at least seven separate occasions in recent history, not twice as is commonly thought.

And people in Cameroon are showing up with symptoms of HIV, but are testing negative for both the virus and its primate equivalent SIV, the virus from which HIV is thought to have evolved. That suggests that new strains of an HIV-like virus are circulating in wild animals and infecting people who eat them, sparking fears that such strains could fuel an already disastrous global HIV pandemic.

The warnings come from experts who gathered this week for the annual meeting of the Society for Conservation Biology at Columbia University, New York. They say that deforestation and the trade in bush meat are creating the ideal conditions for new diseases to emerge, as people have ever closer contact with exotic animals that harbour novel pathogens.

The conference reports follow the discovery earlier in 2004 that simian foamy virus, another disease that infects monkeys, has been found in bush-meat hunters and three different species of primates. As yet, it has not caused ill-effects, but it could mutate into something more insidious.

"Basically, this is a virus looking for a disease," says William Karesh, director of the World Conservation Society's field veterinary programme.

Small game

Despite those concerns, we still do not have a clear idea of how many wild animals are killed and eaten, David Wilkie, co-chair of the Bushmeat Crisis Task Force (BCTF), told the conference. He has carried out the first-ever survey of daily bush-meat consumption by rural communities in Gabon.

Over two years, he documented a flourishing, but previously unrecognised, informal trade in bush meat, where rural communities hunted and ate small game, having already caught most available primates. He thinks official studies of bush meat sold in markets account for only 40 per cent of the total bush meat eaten in the country.

"In the Congo basin alone, between one and five million metric tonnes of bush meat was consumed last year," says Heather Eves, head of the BCTF, a non-governmental organisation that monitors the trade.

And the dangers of eating such animals are real. The BCTF points out that SIV infection has now been reported in 26 different species of African nonhuman primates, many of which are hunted and sold as food.

Wake-up call

The bush-meat trade is not the only way new diseases could jump into humans. The trade in wildlife, both for agriculture and as pets, is a major global business estimated to be worth billions of dollars. In 2002 alone, for instance, over 38,000 mammals, 365,000 birds, two million reptiles, 49 million amphibians, and 216 million fish were imported into the US.

In 2003, monkeypox jumped from pet prairie dogs to their human masters. That "was just a gentle wake-up call," says Tonie Rocke, an epidemiologist with the US Geological Survey. Previously the disease had only been known to infect humans after bush-meat hunters ate red colobus monkeys.

The trade in exotic farmed meat also appears to have sparked an unusual outbreak of a common human parasite called Trichinella. In 2004, a farmed crocodile in Papua New Guinea was discovered with Trichinella, which was only thought to infect mammals, after being fed wild pig meat (Emerging Infectious Diseases, vol 10, p 1507).

In 1999, another farmed crocodile in Zimbabwe was similarly infected. "There is a strong chance that infected crocodiles may be in other countries, and could infect humans who eat them," says Edoardo Pozio, a parasitologist at Rome's institute of public health. People in Papua New Guinea who eat crocodile meat have already been found to have the parasite, which can cause fever, rashes, and respiratory and neurological problems in humans.

Rocke says there are few safeguards to prevent the spread of diseases through the wildlife trade, and is calling for stricter import and quarantine restrictions.

Amitabh Avasthi, New York

Top
#28292 - 08/06/04 01:31 PM Re: Life expectancy falls to 33!
sgebengu Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 05/26/04
Posts: 46
Loc: harare
Uyabona ke bhudaza ungadinwa lakusasa thina singothandindaba sibizwa sisabele masisizwa ezinje ziyasichaza

Top
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 >

Moderator:  Jakalas 
Shout Box

Advert