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#28499 - 11/08/04 07:27 PM Treatment for HIV/AIDS
samdala Offline

Registered: 08/21/02
Posts: 178
Loc: lexington
I met an American AIDS activist in Harare sometime this year and he had very interesting data on effective and affordable treatment for HIV/AIDS. He had a very long story to tell about his 20 year battle with HIV. He found out he was HIV positive twenty years ago.

The guy has researched extensively and in collaboration with the World's top HIV/AIDS scientists, in trying to come up with a cure or at least some form of treatment for the virus. For more details read for yourself on this website:

Basically he says he was one of the first people to use AZT. He used it for a number of years. It was effective to a certain degree, in increasing his C4 count. But he went on a downward slide, and was declared as having full blown AIDS in 1995. I will try to cut the story short. After trying several medicines, mineral supplements and herbs with no success, he tried Aspirin and selenium.

He says after taking Aspirin (one tablet a day)for a month he noticed that there was a remarkable improvement in his C4 count. When he combined Aspirin and 400mcg of selenium everyday for some months, he had a full blood count of 1000, meaning to say his immune system was back to where it was 20 years ago. The guy was very fit and looked very healthy, so much that people were faking that he has been HIV positive for 20 years.

His basic proposition is that HIV positive people should take a combination of Aspirin, a tablet of selenium (200mcg to 400mcg)plus one multivitamin tablet a day. Aspirin acts like an anti-retroviral, selenium helps the body manufacture C4 cells that are required to maintain the body's immunity system. A multivitamin is important especially for sick people in poor countries who might not have a balanced diet. This treatment regimen prolongs life, and does not require a prescription, is cheap and affordable(it cost about US70 per year to be on this treatment). Aspirin, selenium and multivitamins can be taken in addition to anti-retrovirals if one can afford them. The advatage of this regimen is that it has fewer side effects.

This programme of treating HIV is currently in use in Zambia with visible results. There is a pilot project in Zimbabwe, conducted by the UZ School of Medicine and an organisation known as the Centre. To my knowledge the Centre is the only organisation in Harare which gives out Selenium to AIDS sufferers for free. Its is difficult to find in pharmacies in Zimbabwe. But lapha emazweni its available even in supermarkets.I have heard testimonies from AIDS sufferers that their health has improved with this simple treatment regimen.

The American talked quite emotionally about the profit motive of big pharmaceutical corporations and the conspiracy of silence surrounding the effectiveness of these cheap and available drugs. But throughout his presentation he has not misled people into thinking this is a cure for AIDS. It is a treatment which prolongs life.

The doctors on this forum would really help in enlightening us all. Siyagulelwa, njalo mhlawumbe engxenye lathi silayo ivirus. I have never been tested. I am not a medical person but I thought this information would be useful to share with others.

Once again doctors would assist us on this one.

#28500 - 11/24/04 02:40 AM Re: Treatment for HIV/AIDS
Thembalami Offline

Registered: 11/19/04
Posts: 35
Loc: Toronto
hmm food fo thought..i like the point u raised about drug companies taking advantage of the situation to make a profit.

i have always argued that there is no incentive
fo companies to come up with a cure or prevention
because they are makin so much profit from this
tragedy.look at how much money is raised for cancer & all other ailments every yr ,compare
it with the financial results of major drug companies like pfizer ..!!

Most drugs that can help most of the patients neva make it into the market because they r supposed to be approved by FDA ,but most FDA members who r suppose to approve these drugs r shareholders or have a financial interest in other Pharmaceutical companies, y would they approve anythin that was not developed by their own company ?

i think it will be a while b4 the world sees a cure fo major ailments.

#28501 - 11/24/04 09:31 AM Re: Treatment for HIV/AIDS
Mahlabayithwale Offline

Registered: 11/01/04
Posts: 15
Loc: South Africa
yeyi ndoda waht a good piece of a post.into oyibhalayo leyi iyenza ingqondo sibili.

#28502 - 11/24/04 11:01 PM Re: Treatment for HIV/AIDS
Mabila Offline

Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 2124
Loc: Ayowa
Woza lazo Thembalami.......Check also the length of time it takes for the FDA to withdraw drugs with harmful side effects from the market <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> . The big question of course is avele afike njani with those kinds of effects in the market in the first plase ngoba bekuvele kukhona ama drugs already in the market with similar if not better impact.

I always think to myself that the American consumerism is the people's worst enemy ngoba balemali ready in their pockets to but anything new, sensational and exciting and making the drug companies and themselves sick millionaires in the process.

#28503 - 11/26/04 03:50 PM Re: Treatment for HIV/AIDS
Thembalami Offline

Registered: 11/19/04
Posts: 35
Loc: Toronto
Nxa linga thola isikhathi bantu liboke libale
ibhuku lika Kevin Trudeau , elithi
Natural Cures "They" Don't Want You To Know About
Loba nje ama critis emsola ethi aka thembekanga.

his arguement is "Whose gonna guard the guards "

#28504 - 02/13/05 05:12 PM Re: Treatment for HIV/AIDS
Mabila Offline

Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 2124
Loc: Ayowa
Shocking News Indeed

HIV/AIDS is indeed a perplexing affliction bantu.

A multiple drug resistant strain of HIV with the most rapid progression so far witnessed by scientists has been discovered recently. One case detected so far but admits that udlule kwabanengi...... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

Therefore,let's us not relax with the hope of getting anti retroviral treatments......Read for yourselves!

#28505 - 02/13/05 05:51 PM Re: Treatment for HIV/AIDS
malimaza Offline

Registered: 05/01/03
Posts: 225
Loc: emqansweni wakofambeki
Ngikubalile kuphephandaba le UK kukhanya i AIDS izasikhukhula nxa singalibala.This report iyethusa and hope pple do take care about their sexual health,uphila kanye ,do not waste yo lyf for a few minutes of pleasure.

#28506 - 02/14/05 06:06 PM Re: Treatment for HIV/AIDS
bunandi kill me Offline

Registered: 09/20/04
Posts: 805
Loc: ezintembeni
was reading da paper today and i saw this article which say there is now a stronger HIV virus. we were used to that one that took years to become AIDS but now there is this one that take at least two months


#28507 - 02/27/05 05:58 PM Re: Treatment for HIV/AIDS
Makhosazana Offline

Registered: 12/10/04
Posts: 62
Loc: Wakefiled
Can Traditional Medicine Help AIDS?
Sam Burcher reports on some successes with a native herb.

While billions of dollars have been pledged to help the worst affected, many of the poorest countries are still left without the medical support available in the west, and up to 80% of the population must rely on traditional medicine for primary healthcare.

Medicinal plants have been part of the great healing traditions around the world going back thousands of years; the best known being the Indian Ayurvedic medical system, Traditional Chinese Medicine and Western Herbal Medicine. These traditional medicines are the basis of a quarter of all drugs in today?s modern pharmacy [1].

The World Health Organisation (WHO) defines Traditional Medicine as health practices, approaches, knowledge and beliefs incorporating plant, animal and mineral based medicines, spiritual therapies, manual techniques (e.g. reflexology) applied singularly or in combination to treat, diagnose and prevent illness or maintain well-being. In 2002 WHO launched its first comprehensive traditional medicine strategy to assist efforts to promote affordable, effective and safe use of Traditional Medicine (TM) and Complimentary Alternative Medicine (CAM) [2].

In Africa, TM is used by up to 80% of the population to meet primary healthcare needs and is crucial in the fight against infectious diseases. The ratio of a conventional, or western-trained general practitioner (GP) to patients is 1: 20 000, whereas the availability of TM practitioners is 1: 200 to 1: 400. This highlights the need for reliable and affordable herbal medicines that are locally available [3].

In South Africa, it is estimated that over 6 million people are living with HIV/AIDS and 150 babies are born with HIV every day. Conventional drugs exist for the treatment of HIV/AIDS, but they are only affordable by an estimated 1% of sufferers. Three out of four AIDS patients in Africa rely on some form of TM for treating the symptoms of HIV/AIDS (see Box 1).

Sutherlandia Frutescens (subspecies Microphylla) genus Fabaceae (pea and bean/leguminosae) is a perennial shrub that grows wild in the arid regions of Botswana, Namibia, Zululand, Western and Eastern Cape regions of Africa. Sutherlandia can grow up to 1.5 metres in height in optimum conditions of stony grasslands exposed to constant sunshine in daylight hours. A display of blood red flowers bloom from June to December and its seeds are carried in greenish- red papery pods, which are almost transparent. The pinnate and compound shaped leaves have a green-grey colour giving the bush a silvery appearance [4].

The leaves and branches of the Sutherlandia bush are bitter to the taste, but are known traditionally to have health-giving properties. The dried leaves, containing four active compounds, are ground by traditional healers to make into tonics, teas, pills or creams (see Box 1). In the absence of easily available and affordable anti-retrovirals, these herbal treatments are used as the first line of defence in combating the symptoms of AIDS and other wasting diseases. Traditional Medicine practitioners who prescribe Sutherlandia are keen to preserve the use of the plant as a traditional medicine to maintain its patent-free status.

Conventional and traditional healers join up
An independent, inter-disciplinary partnership of TM healers, botanists, conventional doctors and scientists have joined up to form the group, PhytoNova, to prescribe and record the medicinal benefits of Sutherlandia in the treatment of HIV/AIDS symptoms. Dr Nigel Gericke, a GP and a botanist and his colleague Mr Credo Mutwa, 82-year-old traditional healer (sanusi), lead PytoNova's clinical practice and laboratory in Cape Town, South Africa.

PhytoNova makes and supplies medicinal remedies derived from Sutherlandia for the treatment of HIV/AIDS symptoms direct to their own patients and to AIDS clinics in the region before a big pharmaceutical company can get their hands on it. Hundreds of AIDS patients have been treated by Gericke and Mutwa, who share the view that as long as they can prove that something is in the public domain, and is widely used to treat HIV/AIDS, then no one can come along and patent it for profit.

The price to Africans for a month's supply of pills made from the Sutherlandia bush is ?2.50, and the powder form of the dried leaves, which is thought to be more effective because of its bitter taste, costs less than 60p for two month's supply [5].

Gericke describes the promoting of weight gain in wasted, full-blown AIDS patient as Sutherlandia's principal and most valuable medicinal property. Frequent significant and often sustainable gains in weight have been recorded in HIV patients taking Sutherlandia tablets. Weight records of 244 patients receiving treatment of Sutherlandia between November 1999 and September 2002 are available from The HIV and AIDS clinic in the Ngwelezane Hospital. Weight increases of up to15 kg were reported in the majority and in some cases gains of 3-5kgs were sustained over the entire record keeping period [6]. This physiological boost has an immediate effect of enhancing energy levels and improving the patient's mood. Gericke said: "We have seen several examples of bed-ridden patients able to get up after a month's treatment and even to return to subsistence farming." Other AIDS patients who were told to "go away and die" are delighted to find themselves still alive three years on after being treated by Mutwa. This anecdotal evidence supports the theory that AIDS may have become a chronic illness rather than a fatal one.

Gericke informed South African government scientists of the benefits of Sutherlandia. These include improvements in appetite, weight gain, sleep, exercise tolerance, anxiety and an overall sense of well-being. But "because it was a tonic, the scientists dismissed it. They always rush, with classical reductionist thinking, to look for the magic ingredient," said Gericke, summing up the reality that HIV/AIDS itself is so complex, that it is increasingly apparent that there is no "one-stop" solution for its treatment. Gericke has also appealed to his government to grow the bush on a massive scale, to mobilise a public health drive, but this too was ignored. To protect wildstocks of the plant from over-harvesting in the region, he has contracted local farmers to grow acres of Sutherlandia shrubs. This precautionary approach has created local employment and maintained the "not at risk" status of Sutherlandia as a medicinal plant.

PhytoNova is convinced that progression to AIDS from HIV can be delayed once the patient has agreed to receive the appropriate treatment and doses of Sutherlandia, which are taken on an ongoing basis, in addition to careful attention to diet. It is recommended that alcohol; recreational drugs and other drugs that damage the immune system should be avoided. Anne Hutchings, an ethno-botanist and researcher of traditional Zulu medicine at the University of Zululand, who works in the weekly HIV and AIDS clinic at Ngwelezane Hospital, supports these prescriptions. She uses Sutherlandia derived products from PhytoNova in addition to her own remedies made up from local plants (see box1). She started with just 11 patients in 1999 and now has more than 400 [5].

In 2001, a community-based AIDS hospice in Emoyeni, South Africa, admitted 71 AIDS patients for terminal care. Sister Pricilla Dlamini treated the patients with Sutherlandia pills and infusions of another local plant often referred to as African potato (Hypoxis Hermerocallidea) PhytoNova tracked the progress of her patients one year later. Of the 71 patients, 30 had been discharged as healthy back into the community. Some have since returned for follow-up treatments with Sutherlandia while others have been lost to follow-up treatments. No adverse events were reported [7].

Virginia Rathele is a nurse and Zulu traditional healer (sangoma) in the Northern Cape town of Kuruman. She is using Sutherlandia pills to treat 300 AIDS patients in her clinic. She says "Sutherlandia does not work properly just on a diet of porridge. You have to have vegetables." One of her patients was close to death and weighed only 26kg, but after receiving treatment and an improved diet now weighs 45kg and is helping to run the clinic. Rathele is also keen to keep the plant patent free and believes the treatment should be accessible to everyone.

Traditional medicine dispels the darkness
Historically, Sutherlandia has been called many names and used for many purposes. The indigenous Koi San tribes-people name it "Insiswa" meaning "the one that dispels darkness." Insiswa has been used for centuries as an energy booster and anti-depressant. Sangomas know the plant as "unwele", a "great medicine" which so uplifts your spirit that you will not want to tear your hair out and was prescribed for the widows of Zulu warriors. The name "cancer bush" or "kankerbos" is another name ascribed to Sutherlandia by Afrikaners and attests to a traditional use as a cancer remedy. Sutherlandia came to the attention of British botanists when Zulu sangomas used it against the 1918 influenza pandemic that killed 20 million worldwide. The English version of Sutherlandia was named after James Sutherland, the first superintendent of the Edinburgh Botantical Gardens [8].

Sutherlandia has a "beautiful portfolio of chemicals" says Gericke (see Box 2). He has analysed and identified a range of chemicals, which have been previously used for the treatment of patients with cancer, TB diabetes, schizophrenia and depression and as an anti-retroviral agent. Some of these molecules, already identified from sources other than Sutherlandia have US patents attached to them for their use in treatment of these diseases [9]. Gericke recognises the great potential of the plant's chemistry and says: "The claim we are making on the basis of this, is that we can dramatically improve the quality of life of many AIDS patients. We are certainly not making the absurd claim that Sutherlandia is a cure-all or a cure for AIDS.

The medical records of a patient who had ceased taking conventional anti-retrovirals to combat symptoms of HIV /AIDS for two years before turning to PhytoNova for treatments using Sutherlandia pills were documented. These show a marked decrease in the patient's viral load and a significant increase of his CD4 lymphocyte cell count over a six-week period. His starting CD4 count in May 2001 was 340, which increased to 647 in June 2001. During the same period his viral load decreased from 25 000 to 9 200 [10].

A study on toxicity
To date, no severe adverse reactions to Sutherlandia in any form has ever been reported. Nevertheless an independent safety study was conducted by South Africa's Medical Research Council because of the significant ethno-botanical background and availability of the plant as well as the severity of the HIV/AIDS problem in the region. The study tested the effect of Sutherlandia on sixteen vervet monkeys in four groups including one control. The monkeys were fed with dried Sutherlandia leaf powder for three months and exhibited no single indication of toxicity even in the group fed nine times the dose prescribed for the treatment of AIDS in humans. A massive dose of 1x 500mg/kg by mouth was administered without any adverse effect. This is the first South African medicinal plant to be evaluated for toxicity using primates in a controlled study [11].

The Indigenous Knowledge Systems Division (IKS) of The MRC in South Africa is committed to the scientific and clinical validation of promising indigenous medicinal plants. Sutherlandia is considered by IKS to have a long history of medicinal use going back at least 105 years. It acknowledges that a tonic made from the plants may be of value to people living with HIV/AIDS in terms of enhanced well being, increased appetite and body mass as well as increased tolerance for exercise. Use of Sutherlandia is contraindicated in pregnancy [12].

The IKS was formed in 2001, and has created successful collaborations with traditional healers across the regions of Africa. So far they have identified 20 traditional healers across the region from the 300 000 that are estimated to exist on the continent. The select healers are encouraged to keep records of their consultations and it is hoped they will train other healers to do so. A medicinal garden project has also been started where plants can be cultivated and identified. A library and computers systems are also being developed alongside a TM database called TRAMED III, which incorporates medicinal plant monographs.

Not all testimonies to the powers of Sutherlandia are glowing. Stuart Thomson, director of Gaia Research has attacked the plant, the MRC trials and PhytoNova. He says Sutherlandia is a "poison panacea" and PhytoNova is unlawfully distributing a substance, which he believes is potentially toxic as well as using people as human guinea pigs. Thomson considers the MRC study to be invalid because the monkeys were not infected with HIV/AIDS and were studied for less than six months [13]. He also raises some questions on the safety of L-Canavanine (see box 2). But Sutherlandia taken under allopathic or traditional medical guidance would certainly seem to offer an alternative to sludgy liquids made of industrial solvents which sell on the streets of Johannesburg like hot cakes by those looking to exploit the numbers of desperate people living with HIV /AIDS [14].

Of course, there are plants among Africa's flora and fauna that are toxic and efforts are being made to study and document these to avoid incorrect TM treatment of HIV/AIDS or indeed any illness. One such plant recorded to have toxic properties is Callilepis Laurealo or "Impila".

One Sutherlandia plant can treat ten people
Mutwa of PhytoNova says cultivating Sutherlandia is a question of sanding each little seed with fine sandpaper; planting, watering and letting them grow. He refuses to see his country destroyed by HIV and AIDS when nobody really knows the origins of the disease. His reminds critics that the bark of the Cinchona tree forms the natural chemical basis of quinine which, when used correctly is a successful treatment of Malaria for many [15]. Since resistance to quinine has become more prevalent, the shrub Artemesia was discovered to contain Artemisian, an alkaloid with even great efficacy for the treatment of mefloquinine resistant strains of Malaria.

The MRC also plans a pilot clinical trial involving 50 people on the medicinal effects of Sutherlandia [16]. This was scheduled to begin in February 2002, pending a decision by the Governments Medical Approval Council. The Director of the IKS Dr Matlalepula Matsabisa told the New Scientist "A trial like this could act as a valuable template for other trials." He said [17], "The fact is people are already using it and will continue to whether or not the government approves trials." It appears that Africa's first line treatment of HIV /AIDS is Sutherlandia, local to the regions where it is needed the most, whose history as a beneficial, though bitter, Traditional Medicine puts it firmly in the hands of the people.

#28508 - 04/18/05 04:48 PM Re: Treatment for HIV/AIDS
Msupatsila Offline

Registered: 04/07/05
Posts: 656
Loc: Solongo Life
Abantu abaningi sebenalo ulwazi kumbe sebeke bezwa ngemithi eyimishanguzo ebizwa ngama-ARV (Antiretroviral) esiza ekudambiseni igciwane lesandulela ngculazi i-HIV. Le mishanguzo isiyatholakala kwezinye izibhedlela zikahulumeni kodwa ngabe yini yona le mishanguzo futhi isebenza kanjani?

Siqoqe izimpendulo zemibuzo eminingi ejwayele ukubuzwa ngumphakathi ngale mishanguzo.

U :Yini imishanguzo (ARVs)?

I :Imishanguzo yimithi kumbe amaphilisi ayizinhlobo ezahlukene asiza ekudambiseni nasekuvimbeni ukwanda ngamandla kwegciwane lesandulela ngculazi emzimbeni.

Le mishanguzo ivikela amasosha omzimba ukuze akwazi ukuqhubeka nokulwisana nezifo kumuntu osephila nalo igciwane.

U: Ngabe imishanguzo iyaselapha isifo sengculazi ?
I: Cha, imishanguzo ayiselaphi isifo sengculazi. Alikho ikhambi lesi sifo sengculazi.

U: Itholakala kuphi imishanguzo?

I: Imishanguzo itholakala ezibhedlela ezithize zikahulumeni eseziqokelwe ukuba zikulungele ukukhipha le mishanguzo.

Imishanguzo itholakala mahhala ezibhedlela zikahulumeni. Imishanguzo ibikade ikhishwa ezibhedlela ezizimele kodwa iziguli bezikhokha.

U: Ngabe noma ngubani onesifo seHIV/AIDS kufanele aye esibhedlela ukuze athole le mishanguzo?

I: Cha, akusiwo wonke umuntu ophethwe yi-HIV/AIDS okudingeka ukuthi adle imishanguzo. Imishanguzo inikezwa abantu asebenemizimba engasakwazi ukuzivikela ezifweni. Imishanguzo inikezwa abantu asebenemizimba ebuthakathaka nengenwa kalula yizifo.

Kufanele ube ne- CD4 count engu 200 noma ngaphansi ukuze unikezwe imishanguzo. Ngodokotela kuphela abakwazi ukuhlola nokuthatha isinqumo sokuthi kufanele yini isiguli siqale ukunikezwa imishanguzo.

U: Kuyiqiniso ukuthi imishaguzo ingakugulisa?

I: Yebo, njengayo yonke imithi imishanguzo nayo iba nemithelela engemihle engadala ukuthi umuntu agule ngemuva kokuyiphuza.

Udokotela uyakwazi ukukuhlola enze izaba ezithize ukuze ungaguli kakhulu ngemuva kokuphuza imishanguzo.

Kubalulekile ukuthi ubonane nodokotela njalo uma uphuza imishanguzo ukuze kusheshe kubonakale uma kukhona inkinga onayo.

U: Ibiza malini le mishanguzo?

I: Ezibhedlela zikahulumeni imishanguzo itholakala mahhala. Ezibhedlela ezizimele iziguli ziyakhokha.

U: Ngabe ukukhishwa kwemishanguzo kusho ukuthi sekuzoshoda kwezinye izinhlelo zokubhekelela ezempilo?

I: Cha, ukukhishwa kwemishanguzo ngeke kuphazamise ukusebenza kwezinye izinhlelo zezempilo ezikhungweni zezempilo zikahulumeni.

U: Iphuzwa isikhathi esingakanani imishanguzo?

I: Imishanguzo uyiphuza impilo yakho yonke. Kufanele amaphilisi uwaphuze ngesikhathi esifanayo nsukuzonke futhi uyiphuze ngendlela efanele njengokuyalelwa ngudokotela. -Intatheli yoNwele Olude

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