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#29470 - 02/02/06 07:44 PM
Re: Izindimi(tongues)
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Ndunankulu
  
Registered: 11/21/05
Posts: 671
Loc: Emlindini Wesambane
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nomangqika
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> and u will find out ukuthi kulabanye abaprolofithi bamanga abasebenzisa lezi ndimi, kungani belokhe belazo its bcoz if u receive igift from GOD kasoze akuthathele when u go astray but iyabe ingaselamandla its something olayo nje but engatsho ukuthi wena ungcwele njengalabo oholy thou hayi angazi loba ngiyaphosisa kodwa i think wonke umuntu olikholwa kunkulunkulu ulayo iholy spirit. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dadewethu ngiyakuzwa kodwa nxa usithi once you are given the gift of the holy spirit,even if you go astray God never takes it away from you,kutsho phela ukuthi he has softened a little bit,ngoba if we read the bible in Genesis it says when Adam and Eve sinned against God he took off his holy embrace and they saw themselves naked,he punished them,manje kathesi nxa sokuthiwa even umuntu eloya kumbe ebulala abantu uyabe lokho etshaya ngendimi kumbe eprofetha,The bible also says he is a jelous God and also says you can not save two Gods at the same time,my point being sinning is against him and is for or from the devil,so how can you serve God and the devil at once,yikho laphokungixaka khona khonalapho ngento yezindimi lobuprofethi le dade.
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#29472 - 02/03/06 08:54 AM
Re: Izindimi(tongues)
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Nkosi
 
Registered: 05/11/04
Posts: 1304
Loc: Emkhathini
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Siphepheli, angazi kumbe unganginceda. Ngeminyaka edluleyo bengi ngumkhristu ole lempande. Ngangikhuluma ngezwi likaNkulunkulu kuzwele, ngithi nxa thandaza ngizwe ukuthu yaa, uMdali uzwile sibili, ngangi sithi nginga thandazela ulutho lwenzakale.
Kodwa, mfo kulezi nsuku, yismoko. Angazi ukuthi kungani. Abantu engispana labo ngendaba ze "genetic science" bangathi bayangi thundubeza. Angisathandazi, angisayi ensontweni (abafundisi abanengi engibazi lapha ngama tsotsi), angisela veve engangilalo kudala, angisela ndaba le zimiso zika Yesu. Ngingazama ukukhuluma ngendimi, ngiyazizwa angani ngiya wumana.
Kukhona enginga qala ukukwenza ukuze ngibuyele kudlela engcwele?
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#29475 - 02/04/06 01:08 AM
Re: Izindimi(tongues)
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Ngqwele
Registered: 12/03/05
Posts: 153
Loc: USA
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Hatshi kuzwakele mzalwane. Muhlumsebenzi lona, amagamakho ajiyile Siphepheli.
Velindaba yezindimi sibanengi esingayibambi kakahle, mina njengami inglahla phansi sibili. Ngiyadana ngoba yiyonjinto entweni ezinengi engilombuzo ngazo engani iyangehlula. Okunye ngiyemayima sibili ngiphume lokunguklomelo, leyo hayi.
Sibongile wethu. Ngibona naye u Doc uzavumelana nami. Wona umuhle njani umbuzo wakhona?! Hatshi mpela.
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#29477 - 02/05/06 03:31 PM
Re: Izindimi(tongues)
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Ngqwele
 
Registered: 10/07/01
Posts: 112
Loc: Bulawayo
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People have the right to know who is behind the institutions, i.e. the churches and where the moneys go. And when you pay tithe or any offering you have the right to know where the money goes.
And the truth is that most of the offerings go to the headquarters which happen to be outside Zimbabwe, either in USA or Europe and they decided to do whatever they want with the moneys. Nothing is done for the black people. If there?s anything you know let me know. The western Christianity feels is has the job of educating every black person in Africa because we don?t know what religion is and theirs is the true religion. What they don?t know is that the doctrines that form the Bible were written by Black people. So they don?t have any right to tell us about what we know.
They can?t come over to tell us about something we already know. My grandfather one time asked me when I came from school, i.e. Lower Gwelo College, ?What is that there are teaching you there?? Pretending he was ignorant I tried to tell him of Jesus and how he?s going to save him because he was old. He simply asked me this question, ?We hear in radios that there are wars there and there killing one another, why is it that they can?t save their own people and they?ve come over here?? I couldn?t answer this question because I didn?t know. At this age I perfectly understand what my grandfather very well and all he has always told me time and again. These people had their own agenda and it wasn?t and it?s not about bringing faith to us because we already knew it.
One incident which still sits in my mind is this. One Sabbath morning my twin brother and I went and sat up front in church, but we were chased away like dogs. Young as I was I couldn?t understand why. The white people sat in the front seats in church while the black people sat at the back. We couldn?t mingle with the white people. If we were all children of God why was that I asked myself this question? I?m grown up now and it?s clear in my mind what was the motive and objectives of the white people.
When I look at the scriptures starting from the Bible, Sabbath School lessons pamphlets, and other literature there all bared pictures of white people. The idea was to brainwash the black people, make them believe that white people are children of God and God is white. Jesus was and is still portrayed as a white person. Everywhere in the world they have portrayed false images of Jesus. We were also taught about Ellen G. White (a white person) and made us to believe that white people are children of God, yes a chosen people. What I know now makes me a happy person because I know that all the people of the Bible were Black people.
Most of you might not remember. There was one church which came from USA that pitched up a big yellow tent in Pelandaba near the SDA church and had sermons for 2 weeks claiming they can heal people, asking people to pay large sums of money, robbing people of their money. And later on there were found to be crooks that had people stage to act as sick, lame, blind or mad. Most people fell for the trick and lost their moneys. You need to be careful about these Western Churches.
All what we need is our own churches. We wrote the scriptures and we can have our own churches, can?t we. Why should I give the Pope Roman catholic, the SDA, the Anglican, Presbyterian, the Salvation Army, etc my money? If we had our church we could help our people in our community, wouldn?t we. I don?t want my moneys to go to the Vatican.
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#29479 - 02/06/06 06:56 AM
Re: Izindimi(tongues)
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Ngqwele
Registered: 08/26/05
Posts: 195
Loc: Bulawayo
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The other thing okumele amaKhrestu ayazi yikuthi usathane usebenzisa bona labo elibathembileyo enkonzweni zenu ukuledukisa.Kalandi nje abangaphandle,kodwa udinga even labo abafundisi abasebenzise.Uzothola ukuba abanye babafundisi baphathekile ngama businesses abo,abalandaba loku hambisa umsebenzi weNkosi.Baqakathikisa imali le notho yalapha emhlabeni.Akukubi ukunotha,kodwa kumele baqaphele bengadonseli ibandla likaMlimu eceleni.
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