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#34880 - 09/23/07 05:30 PM Re: ukufundiswa isiShona ko Mthwakazi [Re: mathimula]
Zwangendaba Offline
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Registered: 04/27/03
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Bafowethu.

Mathimula. Ungananzelela, amaShona abafuni lakuzwa kuthiwa isindebele kasifundiswe kibo. Uyakhumbula ubaba loya be Nzarayapenga, hk hk hk sorry we Nzayayebane okuthiwa wephula umntwana ingalo ngoba umntwana ethe "Tshilamoya". That is what you should expect from those people. I have lived in Salisbury, and many times I encountered "HANDIZWI NDEVERE INI". I cant hear SiNdebele.

One day we teased with some friend of mine and spoke to about five people randomly in Salisbury using Ahmaric, an Ethiopian Language, in which "DEGNASTILING" greatings to you, or simply means how are you. All the five responses were, "HANDIZWI TSHINDEVERE INI". Then we picked a closer language, Nyanja which is spoken across the border in Zambia and pretty much on ZBC and some streets in Salisbury. We randomly picked another 5 people and said, "MULIBWANJI". Three of those 5 answered, "HANDIZWI TSHINDEVERE INI". This is an experience I had in Salisbury. These people were not under any duress. It was natural for them that NDEVERE is like any other foreign language BUT IS THE ONE YOU SHOULD OBJECT TO FIRST, if you are a Shona.

If my children want to learn Shona, it is their choice. But I WILL NOT RECOMMEND IT. IT IS NOT AN INDUSTRIAL NOR COMMERCIAL LANGUAGE, so there is no benefit in it except bringing BAD MEMORIES in which our elders were ordered around by ZANU youth in Shona, "IWE MANYA", which translates to, "YOU (singular - agaist IMI {YOU} plural used for adults to show respect) RUN as it was custommary for our elders to be run to ZANU rallies some as far from the villages as 5 miles. These ZANU Shona boys would be holding switches and beating the elders to run even as their frailing bones gave in.

LET THEM LEARN THEIR LANGUAGE IN THEIR COUNTRY, AND LET MTHWAKAZI TEACH ITS OWN LANGUAGES IN MTHWAKAZI COUNTRY.

Li Zwangendaba.

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#34881 - 09/23/07 08:32 PM Re: ukufundiswa isiShona ko Mthwakazi [Re: Zwangendaba]
mathimula Offline
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Registered: 04/28/03
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Loc: canada
Nxa umuntu ekukhulumisa ngesiShona, Mphendule ngesiNdebele. Yiwo umuthi omkhulu.

Uma engathi kezwa isiNdebele lawe uyamtshela ukuthi awukhulumiiSiShona.

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#35224 - 11/03/07 11:29 PM Re: ukufundiswa isiShona ko Mthwakazi [Re: mathimula]
lungani Offline
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Registered: 08/13/07
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Mathimula' if you think amaTshona would ever agree to have their children taught isiNdebele in Sozibeli and other places. Kungani abantu bakithi behlala beyibo abafunda isiTshona? Angikaze ngihlangane leTshona elivela eSozibeli likhuluma isiNdebele. Ask the Tshonas if they would tolerate Ndebele being taught in Sozibeli. Then tell us ukuthi batheni..
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#35232 - 11/05/07 07:52 PM Re: ukufundiswa isiShona ko Mthwakazi [Re: lungani]
vunguza Offline
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Registered: 06/09/07
Posts: 129
Loc: emaguswini
mina lo ngatshelwa litshabi emehlweni ukuthi lona leli itshabi ngeke lisifunde isiNdebele ngoba kaliluboni usizo lwakhona.

there you have it!! abakade befuna ukwazi
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#35278 - 11/14/07 11:02 AM Re: ukufundiswa isiShona ko Mthwakazi [Re: vunguza]
Tsotsi_van_Toeka Offline
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Registered: 11/07/07
Posts: 7
Loc: Mthwakazi
Kondwa mandoda yakithi kuzima.

Kukhona isikolo esise Mandebeleni esile majority Shona students. Manxa kunjalo, lithini if abatwana befunda ngesi Shona? Ngaloyo ndlela, alukho udubo. Umtwana ufanele afundiswe ngesi hlobo sika mama wakhe.

Ake litsho phela.

Mina angilu boni udubo.

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#35350 - 11/22/07 05:22 AM Re: ukufundiswa isiShona ko Mthwakazi [Re: Tsotsi_van_Toeka ]
lungani Offline
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Registered: 08/13/07
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Kuwe Tsotsi; Kungani ungazi buzi ukuthi kungani leso sikolo sile majority Tshonas kwela maNdebele? Is there a school in Tshonaland that has a majority Ndebeles? Abelungu bathi "When in Rome, do as the Romans do".
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#35353 - 11/22/07 06:35 AM Re: ukufundiswa isiShona ko Mthwakazi [Re: lungani]
Mnewethu Offline
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Registered: 05/18/07
Posts: 66
Loc: uk
Kahlekahle opasi babecabanga ukuthi izinto zizahlala zibalungele yikho babebona singekho isidingo sokuthi bafunde isiNdebele.Kusenjalo nje lathi kasisifundanga ngokuthanda leso siTshabi senziwa ngumumo. Ngenxa yokuguquka kwezinto le paranoia yeZanu thina sile advantage ngoba siyabezwa inengi labo kabasizwa. Lanxa uMgabe esethuma izinja zakhe ukuthi ziyecupha kuhlangothi lwakithi soku backfire ngoba phela zonke zithi`andinzwi chindebere`. Lapha kabenzeli thina ifavour no,bafuna ukufunda kahle isiNdebele ngoba thina vele isiTshabi kasisidingi ngitsho.

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#35371 - 11/25/07 11:32 AM Re: ukufundiswa isiShona ko Mthwakazi [Re: Mnewethu]
Gumede Offline
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Registered: 12/07/05
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Kwaba yisu likaguluva ukuthi wonke amaDistrict ezikhungeni zeMatebeleland afake amashona ukuze amandebele afunde lolo limi lwabo. ngangilalele iOBE channel eyayisakaza iseVictoria Falls umsakazi ekhuluma ukuthi people in Zimbabwe they call it "Sadza" etsho isitshwala kube kanti ngabe wathi the shona people thaey call it Sadza.

Abanye ama African countries anenqgodo yokuthi people of Zimbabwe are all shonas. ubukhosi bukaMtwakazi ange ba bandakanya neyilwanyana lezi izidla amaxoxo namagundwane. TSHELANI INGANE ZENU UKUTHI AZINGA FUNDI ISISHONA KUNGANGCONO ZIFUNDE ISISUTHU cry
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#35375 - 11/26/07 09:12 AM Re: ukufundiswa isiShona ko Mthwakazi [Re: matshetshe]
mafavuke Offline
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Registered: 11/25/07
Posts: 2
Loc: south africa
okungama shona lokhu sokwasingena mbijanambijana nje nge mpetu

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#36148 - 02/16/08 10:37 AM Re: ukufundiswa isiShona ko Mthwakazi [Re: Zwangendaba]
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Registered: 01/21/08
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Loc: south africa
ngidobhe enye yezingxoxo zakudala. just an update bakwethu.

ISISHONA SESIFUNDISWA KOMTHWAKAZI. AKUSELA MATITSHA ESINDEBELENI.
ISIZATHO, INTSHA KAMTHWAKAZI YAKWENZA UMKHUBA UKUQEDA I-O'LEVEL IQONDE EGOLI. SENYANYA UKUZALA SAZE SABIZA AMATSHONA O-GORE MWANA. UBUPHUKUPHUKU BETHU OBUNGANANI.

UMBUZO, SENZANI NGALOKHU ESIBHEKANE LAKHO??

NGICELA IMPENDULO MAHLABEZULU. MASEKELE UKUDLALELA KU-NET SISANDISA AMAGAMA KUNGELA ZENZO!!!!

Izenzo - kungemazwi : Mzingwane High.

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