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#32235 - 08/23/06 09:53 PM Re: Matabeleland Freedom Party
Sibambamahawu Offline
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"People like you need to be isolated for Mthwakazi organisations to move forward." by Sinatha

Yes i agree with your statement fully, if Manotsha was not one of us we were going to use words like "elimination" instead of isolation.
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#32236 - 08/23/06 10:13 PM Re: Matabeleland Freedom Party
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SINATHAMAHEWU & Sibambamahawu

I just quoted what Mtwakazi007 wrote that if MPC are not doing their job they should be fired teir leaders and have competent people. Why is this message not received well? Of-course if someone is not doing his/her job well he needs to be fired and replace him with someone competent. It?s not me to decide but you. Why are you on the defensive side? Have you done something worng?

The fact is that I don?t know what to say about MPC. It would be nice to know what these guys are up to. But the fact hat they can?t share information with the masses and that requires everybody to call the GURU Zwangendaba is what has made a lot of people frustrated. And this is a fact. It?s not only me who has asked for information, quite a number of people have done so, just check.

I respect your opinion when you write that Ngwenya has showed that he was a mature politician not omafikizolo into politics like you. What it?s important are the results/actions my friends. Actions speak louder than words and we will wait to see the success. At least cain has showed that and this is the message Mthwakazi was trying t put across.

And I don?t think that Mr Ngwenya knows what can free Mthwakazi. He need to talk with MPC, check his interview. And for him there are other organizations which are dreamers like ZAPU200. You must have listened to the interview because you seem not to know what you?re talking about.

If the destruction means a failure to answer to questions and suppress people who need information like like Mugabe, then you are no different from ZANU-PF. Why should people in Matelebeleland and Midlands follow you when you deny them the right to express themselves?

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#32237 - 08/23/06 10:21 PM Re: Matabeleland Freedom Party
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Elimination is strong a word. I thought you?re an organization who believes in freedom, peace and justice and no war.

Is there any justice in eliminating someone? Nkomo had to flee to UK because they wanted to eliminate him. Is this what you want to do with people of Matabeleland and Midlands? You are no different from ZANU-PF.

As Mthwakazi was right by saying, the direction you take will make war come to you. And it?s always a question of who will eliminate who. Just think about it.

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#32238 - 08/23/06 10:40 PM Re: Matabeleland Freedom Party
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I wasn?t the one who wrote to you and have never written to you privately.

What you write can be discussed freely of-course becausee not everybody is a Ndebele.

You may ask some questions if you feel like. And you?re free to express your opinion. I think the whole idea is to intergrate people

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#32239 - 08/23/06 11:01 PM Re: Matabeleland Freedom Party
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Loc: The Republic of Mthwakazi
Kanti wena which organisation do you belong to and what has that organisation done?

o-MFP labo MPC labo PUMA bakhona, so kesizwe eyenu lo 007

Ukube libanga umsindo lizama ukuxega abantu bakithi kakuncedi. Umsebenzi wenu yiwuphi kanti?

YiKUXOTSHWA loKUBALEKA kuma-organisations selisona?

Kasisoze salinika lelo thuba madoda elokubulala izinhlanganiso zikaMthwakazi.

That will be an abdication of our duty. Sizanxiba sibili hatshi okwamadlwana.
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#32240 - 08/23/06 11:06 PM Re: Matabeleland Freedom Party
Mthwakazi0077 Offline
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Registered: 12/08/05
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SNATHAMAHEWU
Attacking Manotsha_ and me will not change the fact that MPC so far has been just a cyber talk show and has done nothing for Mthwakazi.
If MPC allows people like you who are failing to follow a simple discussion like this to represent it, then it is an evil child and it will die an unceremonial death .
It is now more evident than before that MPC has a problem.

You and your MPC bosses cannot handle the truth and if MPC leaders were ALIVE, honest and serious about Mthwakazi they should have told you to stop waffling long ago.


Unlike fake emails on the MPC/UMR website, MFP has made their address and phone number available to the public.

We have heard Cain from MFP speak, however the MPC leadership(if it exists at all) like Dick Chaney, is still at an undisclosed location, it looks like they will remain there forever.
MPC/UMR leaders remind me of the story of Comrade Disaster who stayed in a cave from 1976 to 1989 hiding from Ian Smith's soldiers. The MPC/UMR cave is the internet and they are hiding from the CIOs.

SATHAMAHEWU read this carefully because this is what is annoying you and your MPC colleagues:
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MPC will have to swallow its pride and accept that they have been so far doing a lousy job despite all the support they have received from people.

?.. we ALL have to admit that MFP has been courageous enough to say ?SOKWANELE? despite the fear of the brutal CIOs which is most probably the main reason why MPC has chosen to remain a cyber talk show.

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#32241 - 08/24/06 12:09 AM Re: Matabeleland Freedom Party
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Dick Cheney <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wavey.gif" alt="" />

Ungathuki abacatshayo ngoba lawe ucatshile. Call Zwangendaba nxa ungacatshanga and quit wasting your time and ours!!

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#32242 - 08/24/06 01:18 AM Re: Matabeleland Freedom Party
SINATHAMAHEWU Offline
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Registered: 02/27/02
Posts: 632
Loc: The Republic of Mthwakazi
[]SNATHAMAHEWU
Attacking Manotsha_ and me will not change the fact that MPC so far has been just a cyber talk show and has done nothing for Mthwakazi.
If MPC allows people like you who are failing to follow a simple discussion like this to represent it, then it is an evil child and it will die an unceremonial death .
It is now more evident than before that MPC has a problem.

You and your MPC bosses cannot handle the truth and if MPC leaders were ALIVE, honest and serious about Mthwakazi they should have told you to stop waffling long ago.


Unlike fake emails on the MPC/UMR website, MFP has made their address and phone number available to the public.

We have heard Cain from MFP speak, however the MPC leadership(if it exists at all) like Dick Chaney, is still at an undisclosed location, it looks like they will remain there forever.
MPC/UMR leaders remind me of the story of Comrade Disaster who stayed in a cave from 1976 to 1989 hiding from Ian Smith's soldiers. The MPC/UMR cave is the internet and they are hiding from the CIOs.

SATHAMAHEWU read this carefully because this is what is annoying you and your MPC colleagues:
[]
MPC will have to swallow its pride and accept that they have been so far doing a lousy job despite all the support they have received from people.

?.. we ALL have to admit that MFP has been courageous enough to say ?SOKWANELE? despite the fear of the brutal CIOs which is most probably the main reason why MPC has chosen to remain a cyber talk show.

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Madoda kakulanto elizoyenza. Sesibonile ukuthi it was a right decision ukuthi abanye benu liXOTSHWE!
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#32243 - 08/24/06 06:42 AM Re: Matabeleland Freedom Party
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Registered: 10/07/01
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Loc: Bulawayo
Choosing to belong to a party is someone?s right.
Choosing to disclose which party one belongs to is also someone?s right.
Choosing to vote for the party you like will always be someone?s right.

SINATHAMAHEWU, do you really want to know in which party everybody contributing here belongs to?
Do you want to know in which party the people of Matabeleland and Midlands belong to?

What do you need that information for? Do you want to compile a database? I think if you wanted to know how many people belong to a party, the best thing to do would be to ask the leaders. This information might be really helpful to you. Since I don?t belong to any party, I can?t know.

My friend people cannot destroy an organization by simple asking questions and expressing their views/opinions. The organization can only be destroyed by its leaders if they don?t do a good job, full stop. They are the ones in the driving seat and they know which direction it should go. If they take a wrong turn or are not careful along the way, the bus may crush and the consequences maybe disastrous. The blame will always be on them. It?s something you need to know and it doesn?t need rocket science for you to understand that.

I just see an attempt to try and shut people?s mouths so that they don?t ask questions or express their views/opinions. Gone are the days when you could do that. Times change and will always change. You won?t shut anyone?s mouth and people have a right for personal expression.

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#32244 - 08/24/06 07:25 AM Re: Matabeleland Freedom Party
SINATHAMAHEWU Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/27/02
Posts: 632
Loc: The Republic of Mthwakazi
[]Choosing to belong to a party is someone?s right.
Choosing to disclose which party one belongs to is also someone?s right.
Choosing to vote for the party you like will always be someone?s right.

SINATHAMAHEWU, do you really want to know in which party everybody contributing here belongs to?
Do you want to know in which party the people of Matabeleland and Midlands belong to?

What do you need that information for? Do you want to compile a database? I think if you wanted to know how many people belong to a party, the best thing to do would be to ask the leaders. This information might be really helpful to you. Since I don?t belong to any party, I can?t know.

My friend people cannot destroy an organization by simple asking questions and expressing their views/opinions. The organization can only be destroyed by its leaders if they don?t do a good job, full stop. They are the ones in the driving seat and they know which direction it should go. If they take a wrong turn or are not careful along the way, the bus may crush and the consequences maybe disastrous. The blame will always be on them. It?s something you need to know and it doesn?t need rocket science for you to understand that.

I just see an attempt to try and shut people?s mouths so that they don?t ask questions or express their views/opinions. Gone are the days when you could do that. Times change and will always change. You won?t shut anyone?s mouth and people have a right for personal expression. [/]

Nxa usuqedile ukulawula usitshele ukuthi kungabe laXOTSHWA na kwi-MPC selisona?

Kulilungelo lethu lathi ukuthi sikubuze ngeqembu okilo njengoba kulilungelo lakho lawe lokuzama ukwenzela amanye amaqembu phansi. Sifuna ukwazi elakho ukuze sibone umsebenzi osuwenzile. Kungayisikho lokho ngabe kakudingeki ukuthi sibuze!

Kanti lina lafuna ukubuza kuphela lina lingabuzwa yinto enjani? Lingabuzwa selivuka ngobhova kutheni?

Sitsheleni ngawenu amaqembu amaqhawe ukuze mhlasimbe siwalandele njengoZulu!

You can not be all jaw jaw about imizamo yabanye while you are sitting on your butts! Kuqondile ukulibuza ukuze sifundele kini phela elingamaqhawe.
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