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#34423 - 07/16/07 02:40 PM Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee???
Mabila Offline
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Is this not a distraction kumbe liqiniso ugangile uMfundisi???

Batsirai Maphosa 16.JUL.07
ROMAN Catholic Bulawayo Diocese, and President Robert Mugabe strong critic Archibishop Pius Ncube is being sued for $10 billion for adultery, TalkZimbabwe can reveal.

In a statement realized to the media today (Monday), Onesminus Sibanda?s lawyer Munyaradzi Nzarayapenga of Dube-Banda, Nzarayapenga and partners said for a longtime his client has been suspecting that his wife, a senior church committee respresentave at the St. Pius Parish has been involved in an adulterous relationship with Archbishop of the Bulawayo Diocese, Pius Ncube.

"For a longtime my client has been suspecting that his wife, a senior church committee respresentave at the St Pius Parish has been involved in an adulterous relationship with Archbishop of the Bulawayo Diocese, Pius Ncube.

"At one point he wrote to Archbishop Pius Ncube to register his displeasure. The Archbishop wrote back denying adultery with my client?s lawful wife," Nzarayapenga said.

He said his client has uncovered evidence that suggests that Archbishop of the Roman Catholic Bulawayo diocese, Pius Ncube is having an adulterous relationship with his wife, Rosemary Sibanda, a secretary of the Anne?s Association of the St. Pius in Pelandaba, Bulawayo.

"My client has uncovered evidence that suggests that Archbishop of the Roman Catholic Bulawayo diocese, Archishop Pius Ncube is having an adulterous relationship with his wife, Rosemary Sibanda, a secretary of the Anne?s Association of the St Pius in Pelandaba, Bulawayo."

"My client has instructed and we have issued summons against the Archbishop for causing my client untold suffering, pain, loss of championship, etc. My client is claiming $10 billion, for adultery damages, $5 billion for loss of consortium and $5 billion being a loss of contumelia," said Nzarayapenga in statement.

"I can confirm that the Deputy sheriff of Bulawayo has already served the Summons and Declaration to the Archbishop."

In the statement, Nzarayapenga also said he will not entertain further questions from the media: "I will not entertain any questions from the media."

Ncube who is regularly vilified by the Mugabe government, was not immediately available for commen as his number was continuously ringing without any answer.

Story developing....


- ? 2007 TalkZimbabwe. All Rights Reserved.


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#34425 - 07/16/07 02:53 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mabila]
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Ngamanga and a product of zanu imagination. I hope they didn't trap him ngoba I heard that the woman admitted that they had an affair. Where have you heard umfazi evuma when interviewed by ZBC that she's having an affair. It's bull!

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#34426 - 07/16/07 02:55 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mabila]
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Propaganda nje kuphela. Isitha sivele sigange kanjalo.

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#34428 - 07/16/07 03:17 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: iBoyz yezkweyeni]
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Lababantu kumbe ngithi abanhu kabafuni ukubona iNdebele liphakamisa ikhanda.UMfundisi uNcube ufela ukuba nguZwangendaba okwatsho ingoma kaMajee.Kunengi esizakuzwa kwaqala ngoNyarota esithi UPIUS UFUNA UKUBUSA ILIZWE AS IF LICALA UKUBA LEZIFISO EZINJALO.Abantu be Halale eSozibeli sivele siyabazi
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#34430 - 07/16/07 03:25 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mhlabuhlangene]
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ZPF will stop at nothing honestly.......Iqiniso lizamkhulula uMfundisi......
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#34431 - 07/16/07 03:31 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mabila]
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#34432 - 07/16/07 03:37 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: iBoyz yezkweyeni]
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"My client has instructed and we have issued summons against the Archbishop for causing my client untold suffering, pain, loss of championship, etc.
The above is an extract from the original Talk Zimbabwe story.

i`m wondering what kind of Championship was this Shona accuser dethroned by Ncube?This slip of the tounge/finger is revealing to the kind of philosophy that the shona would always rule the Ndebele no
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#34433 - 07/16/07 03:43 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mhlabuhlangene]
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Knowing uMGABE nama CIO akhe angeke ngakukholwa lokhu. Umama owendile akaphumeli egcekeni nje ngokuganga kwakhe - kutheni ethi bhadla nje? uthi omakhelwane bazokuthini, umndeni wakubo ke, ingane zakhe ke lazo zonke izihlobo?

Hatshi, lapha khona umangoye uyasola - I smell a rat, lets wait and see!
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#34435 - 07/16/07 04:08 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Inkosi uMzilikazi ka Mashobane]
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ZPF is probably manufacturing the evidence as we speak OR it's a done deal!!
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#34436 - 07/16/07 04:16 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Inkosi uMzilikazi ka Mashobane]
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Bafowethu.

Okwakuqala, the source of the story is "TALK ZIMBABWE" Ukuwumana kuphela.

Okwesibili the lawyer is NZARAYAPENGA. UMUNTU ONGELAKUDLA lo osebone isinkwa ku mfundisi.

Thirdly their tone shows that they are SUSPECTING and SUGGESTING. Yimboza ephekwayo leyi. Bayamdinga ubaba uNcube.

Okwesine, zihlobo, loba ungumfundisi loba uyini, "UPHUNGA" lungakutshaya UJWAMPU kalali phansi. Kam'rephanga uNcube. U MaSibanda uyavuma ukuthi it was an affair. BAVUMELANA BODWA. This man nxa eyindoda katshiyane le SIFEBE.

Okokucina: Ubaba uNcube ese Canada sanyenyeza wahleka wathi uzangifaka impama ngithe kuye, "Abantu laba ungabasondezi kakhulu eduze kwakho". Inengi yibo ababemhanqile, ungeke wazi kumbe ngama CIO.

"HOW LONG SHALL THEY KILL OUR PROPHETS, WHILE WE STAND ASIDE AND LOOK?"

Vuka Mthwakazi, we have no business in Zimbabwe.

Li Zwangendaba.

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#34439 - 07/16/07 10:25 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Zwangendaba]
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Ngithe ngibala isitoli lesi ngalala ngoku hleka, vele angisasiqedanga ngoba ngingafuni ukudlalisa i energy yami ngezinto ze ZANU, angithi ama elections sefika sebeqalisile futhi izinto zabo, liyakhumbulua u learnmore njongwe bamenza so waze wacina sebulala umfazi.
kuthiwa are these your photos in pius ncube's bedroom LOL ama photo lawo athathwa ngubani kuleyo bedroom shuwa, izinto ze zanu pf madoda bayehluleka shame.
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#34440 - 07/17/07 06:51 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mabila]
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Bayanya!

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#34447 - 07/17/07 10:46 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: mbuzimbili]
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Kusho ukuthi imifanekiso leya ekwiphepandaba eleChronicle was also engeneered!Closely watching as the drama unfolds

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#34448 - 07/17/07 10:52 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: mbuzimbili]
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Mzwakwethu

Akusoka lingena sici. There's no smoke without a fire.

Ningizwe kahle, ngesenzangakhona, hhayi kabi.

Kusengenzeka uPius Ncube uyenzile lento. Abefundisi laba bagangile kwesinye isikhathi. Indlala isuke ibakhawathe kuma parish abo la, bajike banyonyobele abazalwane abashadile noma bathi sordomise abafana abancane. Ihlazo elingaka! Sies ngamanyala - wukubola komfundisi phela lokhu. Umuntu onjena usuke esebuswa nguSathane straight! He's a sure candidate for hell's fire. That's why ngingeke ngize ngiye e-church. Too many wolves in sheep skins.

Mina ngithi: masi linde indaba iye semaphethelweni. This case is still sub-judice. Uma kunga mampunge, kuzovela. Uma kuyiqiniso, cha kobe unenzele phansi ngempela umfundisi wenu wansondo!

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#34449 - 07/17/07 11:04 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: mbuzimbili]
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I SABC news ithi yona bekune vedio camera e bedroom yakhe, ifakwe ngubani? Bathi uSibanda wadinga ama Private Investigators (PIs) in a sting operation, kambe ngobubha (poverty) obukhona, especially for umuntu ohlala emalokishini kwaBulawayo imali yeoperation engaka uyitholaphi?

Le yona yiCIO sponsored operation ngempela.uMgabe sekabona ukuthi ukubulala uNcube kungamdalela inkinga eziningi sekazama amanye amaqinga okumthulisa (shut him up!). It could be true Ncube had an illicit affair but indlela indaba le evezwa ngayo egcekeni kubonisa ukuthi ngumsebenzi kaMgabe. These days people cannot afford such luxuries as PIs when food is the priority and has become such a luxury.This is what befell Tswangirayi, lisakhumbula u Ben Manashe!

All the same to err is human, kanti yena uMgabe used to pretend ukuthi wayene high moral ground kodwa ebhizi elala nomfazi womuntu uGrace emahofisini akhe, yena uSally egula!UMgabe what a desperate man!
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#34450 - 07/17/07 11:24 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Inkosi uMzilikazi ka Mashobane]
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Mntungwa kaMbulazi

Granted yisandla sikaMgodoyi. Ngempela yena unesandla kuyo yonke lenhlekelele. Trapping abantu abahlaze emphakathini is his speciality.

Nokho wena kaMbulazi, the onus is still on Pius Ncube to be true to his covenant with God. He made an oath of celibacy. Pho uma ngabe esejika ephinga, yinto esizoyithini leyo? Uma abefundisi abahola amabandla bene zenzo ezingcole kanjena! Cha ngeke madoda!

If uPius ekwenzile ngempela lokhu abamhlaza ngakho, kushukuthi uyefana nje noMgodoyi. Naye ubolile, akathembakali, akagcini izifungo nezethembiso azenze noNkulunkulu, udukisa ibandla likaJehova. Ukuphinga kwakhe kuyisi qalekiso emehlweni kaNkulunkulu! Uyisibonelo esimbi emphakathini.

If we were to stop one minute & put ourselves in Mdawini's shoes, that's when the truth hits home. If uyindoda & have a scenario yomfundisi edla umkakho, wena ungathula nje uthi: cha kulungile, uPius ngumuntu olwela umphakathi? I don't think so. Instead you'd probably take the law into your hands, umgawule ngembazo uPius wansondo lona! Ayikho indoda engahlala umuzi wayo ubhidlizwe ngenye indoda. Cha. But Sibanda opted for the legal route. Which is why he even supposedly welcomed isandla soMgodoyi, video cameras & all ukuze athi get the man of the cloth to face the music of ubugebengu bakhe. Mdawini didn't care to be caught in the political storm - his issues begin & end with protecting umuzi wakhe against ufeleba womfundisi.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
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Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga!
Igcokama likaNdonga.
Isishwapha sikaSomkhele.
Yangcol' into ngayintshinga - bayicosha abafokazana!
Futheka mnyekefuli.
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#34451 - 07/17/07 11:41 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
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Uba ngiyifunda indaba yakhona ku-Chronicle, it is not convincing. It sounds like everything was by design and well pre-planned. Lambona ngaphi umuntu olandwa ngabantu emzini wakhe afike avume ukuthi uyafeba? Layibona ngaphi indoda ethi ilomfazi ofebileyo igijimele emthethwandaba umfazi imtshiye ngekhaya? Kanti khona is it the normal practise ukuthi nxa udeputy sherriff esiya kupha umuntu amaphepha uhamba labo-journalist? Kanti khona nxa umuntu ebotshiswe ngendaba enjalo ezombangazwe sezidingani? To those who have not seen the Chronicle, there is an article chronicling ingxenye edlalwa nguPhayasi kwezombangazwe alongside the accusations being raised.
Finally, akusoka lingenasici, kungenzeka ukuthi abe ukwenzile but then it does not nullify imivo elethwa nguPhayasi regarding ezombusazwe. Ukuthi uNcube ulesici does not exonerate umgaklabe lezenzo zakhe. And as uZwangendaba says: umuntu lo kabanjwanga nkunzi, nxa bevumelene ukuya ecansini kuyisinqumo sabo for reasons best known to them. It is sad ukuthi it involves umuntu owendileyo lompristi we-church but it also proves ukuthi i-decision yokuthi awuyi ecansini the rest of yo life is impractical.


Edited by Gaselomhle (07/17/07 11:47 AM)
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#34453 - 07/17/07 01:29 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Gaselomhle]
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....NZARAYAPENGA. UMUNTU ONGELAKUDLA ....

Not to be mistaken with Muntongenakudla.
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#34455 - 07/17/07 01:48 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Sibambamahawu]
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Sibambimidlelo

Don't fcuk with me man! Angihlangani namaShona mina.

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uShamase wangempela!
Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga!
Igcokama likaNdonga.
Isishwapha sikaSomkhele.
Yangcol' into ngayintshinga - bayicosha abafokazana!
Futheka mnyekefuli.
Ngiwuphula ngamabomu umoya wakho - yilento ekubulalayo!

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#34457 - 07/17/07 02:07 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
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whats up youngman? are you still suffering from your delusions of greatness?
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Edited by Sibambamahawu (07/17/07 05:59 PM)
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#34460 - 07/17/07 02:49 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Gaselomhle]
Inkosi uMzilikazi ka Mashobane Offline
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Gaselomuhle ngivumelana nawe. Lokhu okushiwa ngu Muntu lakho ngiyakuzwa kodwa ngithanda ukuthi ngithi differ naye kancane. uMuntu iqina ngelokuthi uPius wafunga ukuthi njengokubana enguMfundisi wama Khatholika akasoze aya ecansini niomuntu wesifazana. I agree, but the fact remains we are all human. We all aspire to do right, to reach the highest spiritual and moral levels but temptations are always there. uSathane akakhethi ukuthi ungumfundisi kumbe hatshi.

I think if we start going along this line of argument we are already falling into Mugabe's trap. This is exactly what he wants. Diversionary tactics that he has always been good at. We are all now focusing on the poor Archbishop and leaving the cause of our misery aside.

Just look at this from the New Zimbabwe website.

"Ncube?s colleagues last night said he was being targeted in a smear campaign by President Mugabe over his criticism of his government. Ncube recently sparked controversy by saying he would support a British-led invasion of Zimbabwe to topple Mugabe.

Correspondents in Harare said Mugabe told supporters last week that there were some members of the clergy who were involved with married women, yet they wanted to project images of puritans.

Mugabe made the claims during a gathering of Zanu PF supporters at his party's Harare headquarters following a closed door meeting with his powerful central committee members."

Manje akelisho this is a well ochestrated campaign yokubana sishiyane no Mugabe nezenzo zakhe besesi concentrator ku Pius. People, don't miss the bigger picture and fall into this trap. Whoever has not sinned should cast the first stone!!!!!!!!

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#34462 - 07/17/07 05:42 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Inkosi uMzilikazi ka Mashobane]
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#34463 - 07/17/07 05:58 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: mathimula]
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Whether he got pussy or not why try and treat the story as a political fallout. Did he do it with the pres's wife? NO So live the courts to do the job, if guilty let him be punished, but not that because he prayed for mugabe to die.

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#34466 - 07/17/07 08:15 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: magandiwa]
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Asithembeleni ukuthi ankanyathelanga udaka otherwise kuyothiwa unathile ngempela. Kungima madoda!! Mina ngingala ngize ngembe phansi bengangitholanga ngiphezu kukaMadaw'duna.

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#34467 - 07/17/07 10:14 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Dingelinjani]
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Kuvele kukhona okukhona kulindaba,babevele bezamdinga baze bamthole umuntu weNkosi shame.Sesiyolinda lelocala ukuthi lizathethwa njani,kodwa ngezenzo zabantu laba,akumangalisi ukuthi he was trapped ukuze bamvalele bavale konke lomlomo wakhe.

lOKHU KUFUNA UMLIMU NGOKWAKHE,AKULANTONHLE LAPHA EZIMBABWE
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#34471 - 07/18/07 12:18 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Zela]
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Bakithi,ziyatsha ngalena kuNew Zimbabwe,kunemifanekiso eyathathwa ese bedroom lomama lo,njalo bathi babalwa bebelitshumi abafazi obejabula labo.Zimbi'ndaba bakwethu.
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#34472 - 07/18/07 01:21 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Zela]
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http://www.sabcnews.com/africa/southern_africa

Nansi ivideo from SABC. Hmnnnnnnnnnn kunuka esika Ari Ben Menashe lapha??? Angiboni common interaction between these two people abasemafanekisweni unless nxa kuyikuthi uMama lo usakhonjiswa, usabala iminwe yakhe...........
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#34473 - 07/18/07 02:55 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mabila]
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Uyazi so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bathi umfundisi way" eztshayela i-skejula lo madaw-duna.

kunzima

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#34474 - 07/18/07 04:55 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: mathimula]
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Interview featuring Pius Ncube's "statement" (real player)


http://www.voanews.com/english/figleaf/r...%5F17jul07%2Era

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#34476 - 07/18/07 06:40 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Zela]
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Registered: 10/10/03
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Viva Pius Viva
We support you through thick and thin
You are the MAN!!!

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#34477 - 07/18/07 07:55 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mabila]
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Lami dade ngithe ngibheka leyo mifanekiso nganukelwa ngu ben kamtshwankela. Kanti yena ubaba lo oweMabuthweni shuwa (without belittling him) uwuthethe ngaphi umcabango lemali yokudinga a private investigator, Abakhulele elokitshini njengami yu know how a Ndebele man reacts to udultry, induku, imikhonto, inqindi lemizaca yikho okufika kuqala ekhanda. Kanti khona kuma-premises amaKatolika ama-access & security controls ami njani, is it so chip ukuthi umuntu can walk in, install cameras and latter retrieve them etc? Yena private investigator lowo kungani ethethe imifanekiso eyi-black & white, why not colour? Kodwa ke kunjalo kwezombangazwe. Icala liya yembula ingubo lingene. Kodwa ke uba uzazi wena that should not make yu lose yo focuss. The most effective solution to the whole drama yikuthi nga kusatshisa kanje kumila abanye oPhayasi bayihlokome indaba yobubi bukamgaklabe, until they can not handle them.
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#34478 - 07/18/07 08:14 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mabila]
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Abantu bayafa babulawa yindlala ekhaya,uMgave ubusy ufaka amaCamera emaBedroom abanye.Uma ecabanga ukuthi sizamane simfulathele okaNcube;enganya!
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#34479 - 07/18/07 08:58 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: mbuzimbili]
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Food for thought: Kanti yena mongameli wasezimbagweni akemukanga enye indoda unkosikazi wayo? Uba wayemuka, eqala ukufeba lalonkosikazi womnikazi yena wayengesindoda yomunye umuntu?
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#34480 - 07/18/07 11:38 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Gaselomhle]
Inkosi uMzilikazi ka Mashobane Offline
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'Sex sting photos' of Archbishop Ncube published in state media



Staff Reporter 17.JUL.07
PHOTOGRAPHS in the Herald published yesterday purportedly showing Archbishop Pius Ncube taking off his shirt with a woman in the background. Inset shows him on his own. Other, apparently more explicit photos, were published in another state newspaper today.

Archbishop Pius Ncube, was pictured by state media apparently naked and with a woman.

In what appeared to be a carefully orchestrated sting, the cleric was shown undressing with the woman in photographs presumed to be taken by a secret camera installed in his bedroom.

Nine pictures were spread across a page in The Chronicle, the Government?s mouthpiece in the western city of Bulawayo, where the Archbishop is based.

The only photographs indisputably of the Archbishop picture him alone. Others are blurred, and one, allegedly of him standing naked, does not appear to resemble him at all.

Given their circulation, though, they left his downcast supporters questioning whether he could retain his authority as one of Mr Mugabe?s most fearless and credible critics.

Ncube was served with a ?80,000 (ZW$20 billion) civil adultery case on Monday, claiming that he had a relationship with a secretary from his diocesan office.

It was served by the deputy sheriff of Bulawayo, accompanied by a posse of journalists and photographers from the government media.

Ncube?s lawyer has described the case as an ?orchestrated attempt? to embarrass him and that the Archbishop would deny the charges.

Ncube, 61, has won huge respect internationally for his vociferous condemnation of human rights abuses under Mr Mugabe, despite constant harassment by government secret agents, who at least once have threatened his aged mother. Friends have feared for his life.

He regularly denounced Mugabe as ?an evil and corrupt dictator,? remarks that could have had him imprisoned. He said he prayed for Mugabe, 83, to die, as the only way to end the tyranny.

He was increasingly looked to as Zimbabwe?s version of the South African Nobel laureate, Archbishop Desmond Tutu, and the only person able to rouse Zimbabweans and lead them to confront the regime. In March he declared he was ready to march ?in front of the blazing guns.?

State television filmed the Archbishop saying on Monday when the lawsuit was served on him: ?We all have weaknesses. That?s why when we pray we ask God for forgiveness.? He was unavailable for comment today.

Fr Frederick Chiromba, a spokesman for the Zimbabwe Catholic Bishop?s Conference, said that a decision whether to issue a statement would be taken when the president of the Conference, Archbishop Robert Ndlovu of Harare, returned from a retreat.

Observers said the pictures echoed an attempt by Mugabe?s secret police to entrap opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai in 2003. They secretly videoed him at a meeting where hired agents tried to lure him into making treasonous statements. The judge in his two-year treason trial found that the film presented as evidence had been doctored.

?Even if the pictures haven?t been digitally altered, which could have been the case, it was clearly a CIO (Central Intelligence Organisation, Zimbabwe?s state security body) sting operation,? said David Coltart, an opposition MP and close friend of the archbishop.

?It was designed to silence the foremost critic of this regime. They have not been able to silence him using any other means, they know they can?t kill him or detain him. So they think they can silence him by embarrassing him.?

The state press published the story at length, under the headline ?Pius Ncube shamed.? Lawyers said even if the allegations were correct, there were doubts an affair would have been adulterous.

Rosemary Sibanda, the woman in the alleged relationship, was quoted as saying she began to visit the Archbishop at his residence two years ago, after her husband had separated from her and married another woman. She said they would have sex ?once every three or four months?.

Mr Coltart asked: ?In the context of what is going on in Zimbabwe now, what is worse: a leader committing genocide against his own people, or a person who has had some moments of weakness? On the scale of sins, especially in this country, this comes pretty low.?

?This is hypocrisy in the extreme,? said Mr Coltart. ?The head of state stole his secretary from another man, was engaged in an adulterous relationship, in a country with one of the highest incidence of AIDS in the world, while his wife was dying.

?My respect for Pius is undiminished.?

Mugabe married his secretary, Grace Marufu, about 35 years his junior, in 1996 after a lengthy affair while his Ghanaian-born wife, Sally suffered a kidney disease that proved fatal. The President had to be granted a special papal dispensation to be able to marry Mrs Marufu.



- ? 2007 The Times - TalkZim. All Rights Reserved.
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#34481 - 07/18/07 12:21 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Zela]
Mhlabuhlangene Offline
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Registered: 01/29/07
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Loc: South Africa.Johannesburg
Into engithanda ukuyibuza yikuthi umdawini(lendoda edlelwe umfazi) kubikwa wayesetshiyane lomkakhe wayayakha lomunye umama okungango kuthi lalabantu besebehlukene kudala.

lanxa uMfundisi ephambanisile ukungena lokwenza kweZAnu kuyonile indaba, ukwenza kweZANU sekuyifakka ibe obala lindaba ukuthi yi politics edlalwayo hatshi i `sex scandal`
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#34482 - 07/18/07 05:26 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mhlabuhlangene]
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Bafowethu.

MINA KANGILANDABA UKUTHI UMFUNDISI UTSHAYILE ITENENE YENYE INDODA. LOKHO NGOKWAKHE LALEYO NDODA. OKWAMANJE UMFUNDISI UYIQINISILE INDABA YOKUGENQULA UBUDLOVA. NJALO LOMAMA UZITHANDELE UKUZWA UMFUNDISI.

POLITICALLY I STAND 100% BEHIND UMFUNDISI. MORALLY NGOKWAKHE LABOMTHETHO. NJALO KIMI KUNGELA RAPE FORGET, INDOJELANA LE ESETSHENZISWA YI ZANU KAYEKELANE LO MASIBANDA.

Li Zwangendaba.

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#34483 - 07/18/07 05:59 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: bongani]
magandiwa Offline
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Registered: 05/30/04
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True asibeni laye ikhanya inzima indaba yakhe, shit okungabantu kumthe Lionnel Messi, ayiphikeki. Kanti yena usibanda longumhlobo bani ongathengisa umuntu wangakibo kabuhlungu so. Zindaba ezazithethwa ngabadala ensithe hayi ukubiza intatheli zindaba. Imifanekiso le etshengiswayo itsho ukuwa kwendoda socially, economically, poltically,biblically and popular wise.

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#34484 - 07/18/07 07:09 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: magandiwa]
masala Offline
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Registered: 08/08/06
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Mhlawumbe uma-Sibanda lo! nguye othengwe nguMgabe. I don't blame him (Ncube)the woman is fit.

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#34485 - 07/19/07 07:03 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: masala]
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Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 649
Loc: Mtubatuba
Awuboni ke la, okuMgodoyi kumthole kahle u-Pius. Kuvele kwamcupha ngo noxhaka straight, kwambamba, kwamkhiph' inkani!

Quoted from newmgodoyi.com
A boisterous Mugabe told Zanu PF supporters who gathered at the burial of the late Brigadier General Fakazi Muleya that the ?disgraced? Ncube needs salvation.

?It can?t be me to say let?s pray for Pius. I suppose when I go to church I will pray for God to save and pardon Pius,? Mugabe, who spoke in Shona, told his supporters at the Heroes Acre.

?I was born in church. I am a Catholic myself but I failed to achieve what Pius did (being Archbishop), because God chose something else for me.

?Those who pray for us must pray in good faith. Don?t pray for our deaths. Now you are my Archbishop and sleep with married women. Is that a fair game? Anyway, I will leave it here,? said Mugabe to thunderous applause from his followers.


This has all the traits zemihlola ethweswa uZuma.

From here, sekuzo mdlalisel' ama-dragon, kumenzel' iziga okwazenz' uCanaan Banana. Shame bandla, umuntu wenkosi.But mina ke I blame yena uPius. He should have known ukuthi the minute he takes on uMgodoyi, useya shisa kwayena. He should have adopted the basic boxing rule of: defend yourself at all times!!

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
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#34486 - 07/19/07 08:09 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
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Kanti iqiniso yiliphi lapha?IHerald yalamuhla ithi uNcube ukholise abafazi ababili, izolo ibisithi abalitshumi ,kambe i 10 ingavuka isiyi 2.ngibona angathi yonke lonto yemifanekiso izichithwa njengendaba ka Ari Ben Manashe.
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#34487 - 07/19/07 10:02 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Zwangendaba]
Mbulawa Offline
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Registered: 03/27/04
Posts: 167
Loc: Joburg, SA
Originally Posted By: Zwangendaba
Bafowethu.

MINA KANGILANDABA UKUTHI UMFUNDISI UTSHAYILE ITENENE YENYE INDODA. LOKHO NGOKWAKHE LALEYO NDODA. OKWAMANJE UMFUNDISI UYIQINISILE INDABA YOKUGENQULA UBUDLOVA. NJALO LOMAMA UZITHANDELE UKUZWA UMFUNDISI.

POLITICALLY I STAND 100% BEHIND UMFUNDISI. MORALLY NGOKWAKHE LABOMTHETHO. NJALO KIMI KUNGELA RAPE FORGET, INDOJELANA LE ESETSHENZISWA YI ZANU KAYEKELANE LO MASIBANDA.

Li Zwangendaba.


Lami i'm of the very same opinion. Okwenziwa nguMfundisi kwimorals zakhe does not change anything he has said about umgodoyi.


Edited by Mbulawa (07/19/07 10:04 AM)

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#34491 - 07/19/07 05:02 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mbulawa]
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Ubhixwe ngobubende inyama engadlanga

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#34493 - 07/19/07 07:54 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: mbuzimbili]
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Registered: 06/09/07
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Dirty tricks for political milage! and one claims to have in excess of 40 years of political experience. what a crying shame!

ixhegu elaswela mahloni. lo! uyasiyangisa mani!
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#34497 - 07/19/07 09:07 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: vunguza]
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abantu sesikhohliwe ngo dubo olusekhaya , ngandaba ze zanu pf , umugabe uhlakaniphile shuwa lina khangelani manje i focus has shifted to useless thingz in life yet we need to fight mugabe yena sefuna silwe lo baba ncube ongawonanga lutho, thus another zanu/cio drama ukuyehlisa u baba uncbe shuwa.
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#34498 - 07/20/07 05:21 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: BhudiMathawuzeni]
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Maybe U Pius should use i American mentality " no publicity is bad publicity " , He should use his 15 minutes of fame to highlght the state of affairs e Zim. since it seems the whole world is watching. Bathi u can't keep a good man down without staying down yourself maybe umfundisi nguye ozasisa e Canana njengoba oTshwangilayi sebehluleka.

Mina ngithi more power to uMfundisi , phambili nge revolution
landela o Martin Luther king , ubheke nje kuphela oxamu bengaku faki enkantolo njengo Bennet
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#34499 - 07/20/07 04:15 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: mbuzimbili]
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uqinisile mbuzi yikunya impela lokhu

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#34500 - 07/20/07 04:36 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: mathimula]
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Originally Posted By: mathimula
Mina ngihle ngahleka nje.

Le yi Joke of the century
mina ngisahleka lamanje

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#34501 - 07/20/07 07:57 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: BhudiMathawuzeni]
vunguza Offline
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Registered: 06/09/07
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Loc: emaguswini
Originally Posted By: Tshisa
abantu sesikhohliwe ngo dubo olusekhaya , ngandaba ze zanu pf , umugabe uhlakaniphile shuwa lina khangelani manje i focus has shifted to useless thingz in life yet ...


lapha ule-point. right now edladleni kusele ama-polish kuphela ema-shops and all everyone is talking about yikuthi babone izibunu zika Pius. meanwhile, umgaxabe is laughing at us all!
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#34502 - 07/20/07 10:30 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Zela]
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Registered: 06/12/07
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Bakwethu yinhlalayenza yemadoda la empumalanga uJoshua bekuthiwa phansi laye kwajikwa sekuthiwa Liqhawe, Ucain Nkala basusela amanqe bagcona abangayisibo qede uMthethwandaba wabakhupha entolongweni, lamhla okaNcube akufelayo yikubatshela nje mathupha ukuthi uMatibili Mugabe nguMbulali. Asazi bakwethu konke okwenzekayo empilweni kulesikhathisakho. Ubukhosi ngamazolo bayatsho abadala..

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#34509 - 07/21/07 02:20 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mangweni]
Sgero Offline
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Registered: 05/31/04
Posts: 643
Loc: United Kingdom
UMfundisi Ncube nxa edlile udlile, nxa njalo engadlanga kadlanga. Ngeke sazi. Kwazi yena lo Mdali wakhe kanye lomama lo okuthiwa wadliwa.

Bakwethu, kambe sizahlala sikhala nge 'dirty tricks' njalo nje singenzi lutho? Lathi yisikhathi sokucitsha umlilo ngomlilo. Lathi asibasuseleni i dirty tricks. Ukuhlala sipopota without action akusizi and we can't expect a clean fight. Yisikhathi lathi to get down and dirty sifane laso isitha.
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#34522 - 07/22/07 09:30 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Zela]
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Loc: Emlindini Wesambane
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#34524 - 07/23/07 04:28 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mabila]
Noxie Offline
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Registered: 04/08/06
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Loc: Lupane
zimbi indaba shame asazi ngihlekiswa yikuthi ukhulu mgaxabe ethi I'm praying for Pius Ncube this time umtholile shame kuyadanisa hope for the best ukuthi uNcube uzaba strong ngoba lokhu kuhle kwamthena amadolo shame.
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#34525 - 07/23/07 04:59 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Sgero]
MTHIMBALI Offline
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mahlabezulu no one is immune to the trails and tribulations of this earth,yikho sisiya echurch sisiya thandaza,sicela uxolo njlo lentethelelo.pius is a strong man ,he would be bak ngoba akabulalanga muntu ubedala umuntu.ITS HIGH TYME LATHI WE NGET DIRTY SIBILI

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#34526 - 07/24/07 08:40 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: MTHIMBALI]
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I wish he could join politics full time
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#34530 - 07/26/07 08:03 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Gaselomhle]
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Registered: 01/29/07
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Loc: South Africa.Johannesburg
Yes Pius For President
If elections were held today pitting our very own Pius aganist Mugabe, Tshwangilayi and Mutambala my vote would go to Ncube.Inkinga yikuthi amashona kawafuni kubuse omunye umhlobo yikho nje sebebulele ilizwe.
Shame idoti zamaShona
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#34534 - 07/26/07 08:47 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mhlabuhlangene]
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http://www.thezimbabwean.co.uk/viewinfo.cfm?id=5384


Ncube pictures 'concocted' ' lawyer
Bulawayo
The authenticity of images purporting to show sex romps between Archbishop Pius Ncube and Rosemary Sibanda shown repeatedly on national television and in government newspapers last week is being questioned.
Ncube's lawyers believe the pictures were computer generated, as modern technology makes this simple and effective. Doctored pictures of Mugabe himself, such as the one above, have been doing the rounds on the internet for years.
We can also reveal that the 'private investigator', claimed by the state to be a railway technician, is actually employed in the 'Special Branch' of the CIO. Confusion also surrounds the identity of the plaintiff, initially said to be a railway worker. It has now emerged that he is a serving soldier in the ZNA on secondment to the National Railways and that he was never married to Rosemary Sibanda.
Archbishop Pius Ncube stood confidently in the pulpit of his 4,000'seat St Mary's Cathedral last Sunday.
Only a few hundred worshippers occupied the maroon seats on the main floor of the St Mary's Parish in central Bulawayo. Sections of the neatly arranged sanctuary were roped off so congregants would sit near the front of the church. The ceiling rose majestically over two almost empty balconies. Archbishop Ncube's aides sat to his right.
But gone were a small portion of his most faithful followers, convinced by allegations of the prelate's alleged infidelity with a church secretary.
They had helped Ncube build the church into a flock of 12,000 that caught the attention of even the President of Zimbabwe.
The hundreds who attended Sunday Mass said they would stand by the Archbishop as the church haemorrhaged members after the scandal broke.
The parishioners who attended Sunday Mass said they believed Archbishop Ncube when he denied the allegations of adultery saying his accusers were under "demonic influence."
The Archbishop delivered his sermon with raw passion.
A parish nun later told The Zimbabwean Ncube was a spiritual elder. "Its all false. His faith is being put to the test by the devil," she said.
She said the sense of community was a critical part of the success of St Mary's Cathedral that had gained a national reputation for combining liturgical arts, such as dance and drama, with cutting'edge social ministry.
His lawyer Nicholas Mathonsi told The Zimbabwean the Archbishop was "sick, very, very sick" of the false allegations brought against him.
"The Archbishop has been tried and found guilty in the state media and there is absolutely no prospect of a fair trial," said Mathonsi. He said at least 12 people, mainly reporters for state newspapers and television bussed from Harare, including ZBC's burly Rueben Barwe, had curiously accompanied court officials to serve papers on the Archbishop on July 16, betraying that this was a "a big operation that involved the State."
* Press freedom watchdogs and civic groups have roundly condemned the State media's role in the affair.
The Media Institute of Southern Africa (MISA) Zimbabwe chapter said the appalling coverage given the Ncube story by the State media reinforced concerns that these outlets were being used as political weapons against perceived enemies of the Mugabe regime.
Bulawayo'based pressure group Bulawayo Agenda slammed the publication of pornographic pictures in public newspapers read by young and old alike.
The Solidarity Peace Trust said the Zimbabwean State was attempting to bring into disrepute the reputation and moral standing of the Archbishop.
Zimbabwe Lawyers for Human Rights described the move as a diversionary tactic aimed at deflecting attention from Zimbabwe's unprecedented economic meltdown.
ZimRights said the State media had tried and sentenced Ncube even before he has appeared in court.




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#34536 - 07/28/07 07:07 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mahlab'ayithwale]
Isixaxa Offline
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Registered: 06/02/07
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Loc: West Midlands, United Kingdom.
Lokhu yikho okumele singakuvumeli phakathi kukaMthwakazi. Sinindwe ngodaka egcekeni madoda hatshi asazi!!!!

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#34537 - 07/28/07 11:46 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mabila]
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Bafowethu.

Khazi, I can only be happy he is represented by a Mthwakazi in this time of tribulation. THIS IS A TRIAL FOR MTHWAKAZI, NOT NCUBE ALONE. After all it is DEMONIC as he says. KOZE KUBE NINI???

Li Zwangendaba.

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#34540 - 07/29/07 01:32 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Zwangendaba]
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Registered: 08/07/04
Posts: 4
Loc: Canada
Bakwethu,

It is unfortunate that people in this information age of the 21st century still fall for Zanu-PF gimmicks and propaganda. How do we expect to remove Mugabe if we fail to analyze simple issues like these. Firstly let us not judge Ncube the person because the case has not gone to court, why judge him on the basis of what appears in the media? Secondly, any graphics artist who pays attention to detail will tell you that the pictures that are said nail Ncube are a complete fabrication. I can show you a lot of disproportions on them. You can use even a simple graphics program like Photoshop to manipulate photos, I have done this several times, albeit for good reason on my own photos, either to edit portions that i don't like, add other images of people or objects.. its very easy.

Thirdly, ukuthi uNcube walala lobani njalo nini does not solve any problem for a suffering Zimbabwean. Please let's learn to focus on matters of substance. A whole nation is under siege from a devil and we are quick to harp on a diversionary issue. Ncube's case is so minute in relation to the problems suffered by millions of Zimbabweans. In any case if it happened it boils down to a matter between him and God as much as anyone including you and me will be judged by God.

Bayethe!!!!
UkhandaMpondo

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#34542 - 07/30/07 01:21 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: KhandaMpondo]
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Point of correction; It is not Mthwakazi that condemns The Bishop but Zanu as always,and the Lady above is merely forwarding a story to us[she's not saying that she supports the idea though].Please sicela ucace in future lest we start fighting amoungst ourselves.
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#34570 - 08/05/07 05:02 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Zwangendaba]
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http://www.thezimbabwestandard.com/viewinfo.cfm?linkid=11&id=7058&siteid=1

Strange twist in Pius Ncube adultery case
By Kholwani Nyathi


BULAWAYO ? The $20 billion adultery lawsuit against Archbishop Pius Ncube?s (pictured) has taken a new twist ? adultery claims have been dropped.

According to fresh High Court papers seen by The Standard last week, plaintiff Onesimus Sibanda?s lawyer, Munyaradzi Nzarayapenga says he would make an application to amend the original summons at the pre-trial conference or "any time before trial".

The amendment does not contain any adultery claims against Ncube, a fierce critic of the government?s human rights record.

In the original claim, Sibanda, a soldier attached to the National Railways of Zimbabwe, said he wanted $20 billion from the prelate for allegedly having an intimate relationship with his wife, Rosemary.

He said $10 billion was for adultery damages, $5 billion for loss of consortium, and $5 billion for loss of contumelia (loss of comfort).

But in the latest application, Sibanda does not mention damages for adultery and instead wants the figure broken down to $10 billion being loss of consortium and $10 billion for contumelia.

This follows an application by Ncube?s lawyer, Advocate Nicholas Mathonsi, for Sibanda to clarify how the alleged adultery was committed and also to justify how the claims were arrived at.

On Friday, Nzarayapenga said the amendment only sought "to correct mistakes that were made in the summons and declaration. Otherwise the claim remains the same at $20 billion".


LOOSERS!!
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#34573 - 08/06/07 09:55 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mabila]
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Clearly those pictures were Photoshoped,i can recreate the same pictures with the devil himself Mugabe enjoying the same wewe.Who do they think they fooling?

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#34575 - 08/06/07 11:26 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: malesi]
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Mzwakwethu

Lendaba is sub judice. As such, I advise you to desist from rallying behind your village pope, Pius Ncube, nimgeza igama nithi umsulwa. Kusengenzeka wazidlela lomfazazana wansondo.

Uma wadla, kobe unenzele phansi ngempela lo-village pope wenu. Awu madoda, ihlazo elingaka! Phela umelusi odla izimvu azilusile akathembekali, yisigebengu. Izenzo ezinjena ziyashaqisa ngoba ziyefana ncamashi nalezo ezikaMgadoyi. Zombili ziholwa ngumoya kaSathane.

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#34577 - 08/06/07 11:51 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
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Uma wadla, kobe unenzele phansi ngempela lo-village pope wenu


Uthini la? Utsho ukuthi umfundisi kaNcube ummele isizwe sakithi ngendlela, say, inkosi Zwelithini kuwe lapho immele amaZulu?

If usithi "lo-village pope [wenu]" ngikuthatha ukuthi utsho ama kholwa/abalandeli bebandla lase Roma? Tshono and uyibambe, ungay'yeki. Sebenza(ubuy' ekhaya!)
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#34590 - 08/07/07 02:22 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mabila]
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Bafowethu.

Danki Khazi, kusobala ukuthi THEY ARE LOSERS WITH LOOSE TUMMIES.

Li Zwangendaba.

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#34603 - 08/09/07 03:00 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
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Originally Posted By: Muntongenakudla


Akusoka lingena sici. There's no smoke without a fire.


Usho kahle mnakwethu. Nxa ulisoka vele kovela okwenziwa ngamasoka ebusokeni. Kodwa kukhona njalo amasoka alemihobholo phela asuka ebhixe amanye ngobubende engabudlile.

Originally Posted By: Muntongenakudla
Abefundisi laba bagangile kwesinye isikhathi. Indlala isuke ibakhawathe kuma parish abo la, bajike banyonyobele abazalwane abashadile noma bathi sordomise abafana abancane.


Abefundisi phela labo ngabantu njengawe lami. Imizwa esiyizwayo labo bayayizwa. Imithetho le esisuka sibafakele yona abefundisi inzima njalo iyancindezela. UNkulunkulu, uMdali wadala owesilisa wasedala lowesifazane ukuzomchithisa isizungu owesilisa. Thina besesisuka sithi abefundisi akumelanga bachithe isizungu nabesifazane kumbe abefundisikazi akumelanga bachithise abesilisa isizungu.

Originally Posted By: Muntongenakudla
Nokho wena kaMbulazi, the onus is still on Pius Ncube to be true to his covenant with God. He made an oath of celibacy. Pho uma ngabe esejika ephinga, yinto esizoyithini leyo?


Yimithetho yethu nje le esizibazela yona sithwalisa abefundisi nabefundisikazi kanzima nje. Kungani nathi esithetheyo kodwa singeyisibo abefundisi , kunzima nje ukukha emthonjeni yethu kuphela, sibanjwa insuku zonke nje sesiye sayakukha komakhelwana? Kunzima mnakwethu.

Le eyokudlwengula abafana abancane yindaba ebuhlungu njalo elihlazo. Njalonje akusibo abefundisi bodwa abadlwengula lezi ingane. Kuyatholakala kuzozonke inhambo zempilo, kwabacebile nabampofu, abamhlophe nebensundu njalonjalo nje. Ngamaphutha nje lana adinga ukulungisiswa esizweni.

Originally Posted By: Muntongenakudla
Ihlazo elingaka! Sies ngamanyala - wukubola komfundisi phela lokhu. Umuntu onjena usuke esebuswa nguSathane straight! He's a sure candidate for hell's fire.


Hawu Mkhwananzi, usathane sengena ngaphi kwezamacansi? Phela ezamacansi zadalwa nguNkulunkulu. Ezavela kosathane ngezokudlwengula kumbe abesilisa kumbe abesifazane. Kodwa ezocansi ezilokuvumelana zibusisekile nxa zisenziwa kulandelwa imilayo kaThixo ebalela ukushada anduba kuyiwe ocansini lokunye nje.

Akungitshele Mkhwananzi ukuthi wena awukaze uye ocansini na lomuntu ongashade naye? Kusuka kube yiphutha nje kodwa kuyatholakala emphakathini. Umfundisi kumbe umfundisikazi laye kungamehlela nje azithole esesocansini lomuntu angashade naye.

Akekho ngisho loyedwa umuntu owadalwa nguNkulunkulu edalelwa ukuyolahlwa egehena. UNkulunkulu wosisindisa sonke ebubini bethu nxa sivuma. Kangako mina ngithi osaphilayo kulo umhlaba usesenalo ixesha lokuzilungiselela ngoba uMdali wosithethela yinoma zibomvu kangakanani lezo zono zethu, esizonayo kumbe esizetheswayo, nxa sivuma.

Originally Posted By: Muntongenakudla
That's why ngingeke ngize ngiye e-church. Too many wolves in sheep skins.


Lapha jaha lezansi uvike ngomunwe kuphela. KoThixo kusesibhedlela lapho okuthungwa ezidabukileyo, kukhandwe ziqondiswe ezigebilyo kumbe ezifotokileyo, kuvuswe ezifileyo, kuvuselelwe ebesezidinwa.

Originally Posted By: Muntongenakudla
If uPius ekwenzile ngempela lokhu abamhlaza ngakho, kushukuthi uyefana nje noMgodoyi. Naye ubolile, akathembakali, akagcini izifungo nezethembiso azenze noNkulunkulu, udukisa ibandla likaJehova. Ukuphinga kwakhe kuyisi qalekiso emehlweni kaNkulunkulu! Uyisibonelo esimbi emphakathini.


Wonke ongena enkonzweni ngisho laye kanye sibi sakhe umfundisi uyobe edinga usindiso. Akekho osindileyo kulo umhlaba. Kangako, awungezake uswele ukuya kwelatshwa esibhedlela ngoba kulabafela khona, kumbe abagula imikhuhlane yocansi enjengabongulamakhwa. Ujinge uye lawe uyelatshwa esakho isifo. Kunjalonje nasezinkonzweni lapha sonke sidinga ukusindiswa ezintweni ezahlukeneyo, ezingabalela ukuziqhenya kumbe ngithi ukuziqakisa, ubufebe, ubusela, ubuxova, ubudlwenguli, ukungazi, ububi bobuso kumbe inhliziyo, hayi ke kuningi mnakwethu ongathola ukusizwa kikho ngasecaweni.

Originally Posted By: Muntongenakudla
Uma abefundisi abahola amabandla bene zenzo ezingcole kanjena! Cha ngeke madoda!


Yana khona enkonzweni lawe uyethola usindiso kwesakho isono ushiyane nabalezono zabo abazedinga uncedo njengawe. Nanzelela ukuba umsebenzi wokwethesa izidalwa zikaThixo amacala kumbe ukutshutshisa, ngokasathane lo abamuthi ngesilngu 'the accuser of my brethren'. Ungazewawela kuleloliwa nawe. Ziyele ecaweni uyothola usindiso, kumbe ugqoke esemvu kumbe eseganyana.


Originally Posted By: Muntongenakudla
If we were to stop one minute & put ourselves in Mdawini's shoes, that's when the truth hits home. If uyindoda & have a scenario yomfundisi edla umkakho, wena ungathula nje uthi: cha kulungile, uPius ngumuntu olwela umphakathi? I don't think so. Instead you'd probably take the law into your hands, umgawule ngembazo uPius wansondo lona! Ayikho indoda engahlala umuzi wayo ubhidlizwe ngenye indoda. Cha. But Sibanda opted for the legal route. Which is why he even supposedly welcomed isandla soMgodoyi, video cameras & all ukuze athi get the man of the cloth to face the music of ubugebengu bakhe. Mdawini didn't care to be caught in the political storm - his issues begin & end with protecting umuzi wakhe against ufeleba womfundisi


Mina ngithi oneqiniso angezake achithe isikhathi nemali elwisa umakhombisa kumbe umakhonjiswa. Okhombileyo nguye olecala nxa kungowesifazane osebanjiwe ngowangakwakhe. Nxa kungowesilisa obanjwe ngowangakwakhe, nguye phela umakhombisa kangako liyamudla icala. Lo owokuza akanacala. Isintu sithi thinta eyakho inkomo ingangeni emasimini kaMkhwananzi. Njalonje, mina madlelwa lami kungenzeka bengingabiyanga ngavitsha kahle, kangako ke nxa sengithe ngachithelwa amabele ngokungavitshi kahle kwami pho ngisalwani lomalusi.

Kodwa kodwa ungalwela isifebe na? Nxa eyakho indibilishi oyibhadeleyo isithe yaphela umango, yekela abasasele layo bazidlele.

Mina ngithi uDawu kumbe nguShumba Mubayiwa njalo kakhuze uvalo angaze azifaka umphakathi. Yini ke manje sonke sesisazi ukuba ihloka alisagamuli kuye lapha? Nxa eyindoda ezithembayo, uVodloza, omhlathi ongehlulwa lithambo kumbe ngelendlovu enkulu, okhwaza kutshotshobale izizwana uyakhuza uvalo adingele phambili, engalweli ikhuba lomphakathi. Kumbe njalo nguMubayiwa yekela ahlabe umkhosi. Akaboni na ukuthi usezifake ihlazo ngokuveza ukuthi uthethe ifosholo yemangcwabeni, isifebe sekhosikazi, umfazi wabantu bonke, igadigadile iwombela yesizwe, wayagebhisa isivande somuzi wakhe? Mpthu! bandla ngivumeleni!


Edited by Siphepheli (08/09/07 03:26 PM)
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#34606 - 08/09/07 05:55 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Siphepheli]
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Thats true mfowethu abantu bezikhundla laba they take advantage of their statuses to bully other peoples lives. Nxa watshaya, kabotshwe, kodwa take fucken zunu out of the case.

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#34654 - 08/23/07 09:47 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mabila]
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#34658 - 08/24/07 01:04 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Jakalas]
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Halala Mfundisi Halalaaaaaaaaaaaaaa whistle cool
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#34659 - 08/24/07 02:55 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mabila]
Meli Omuhle Offline
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Registered: 01/03/07
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Kambe bakwethu kuyini okumangalisa ngale ndoda emgumfundisi oligabazi. Abanye sazi ukuthi owesilisa wonke wadalwa nje elemizwa efanalabobonke obaba, besekusithi ngemva kwentshumayelo yevangangeli esiyizwa ngendlela ezitshiyeneyo sesizimisela ukufungela ubufundisi lobu obenza kusasa sibe ngabandlela ensitha. Minake akungimangalisi lakancane lokhu okwenziwa ngumfundisi uNcube. Nxa libukhali ihloka njalo laba omama belambile, ilobalaye lumama kaSibanda engizwa kuthiwa uthethwe libutho, mhlawumbe libuya lidinwe khahla, yikutshaya abantu phela yiwo umsebenzi wabo lezinsuku, abesefika ezilalele nje okokuthi umama ulala ezenwaya, nanzelela ndoda kulamagabazi phandle la. Abazamphendula umama, bem'beke esitulweni, ecansini, em'bhedeni njalo bem'bambise umduli nyakutshela bamthunge lasempentshweni. Ngicina ngokuthi ndlana Ncube nxa kuvuthiwe, nkampuna ngoba okuvuthiweyo kuvele kuyadliwa, ungakuyeka kuyabola kantivele kugcinelweni.

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#34663 - 08/26/07 04:29 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Meli Omuhle]
Zwangendaba Offline
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Bafowethu.

Hayi aaagghhhhhhhh!

Li Zwangendaba.

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#34667 - 08/26/07 06:01 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Zwangendaba]
kanti9Kunjalo Offline
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Ekuhle.

Mina lapho engivumelana laye ubaba uMncube yikuthi uMgabe uselahlekile waze waphuma eguswini wangena inkangala. Yena kazame ukulungisa isizwe sakwabo ehlukane lokuzama ukuThandaza ngoba ngokwabafundisi.

Okwehloka liqiniso bakwethu. Izidalwa zonke zilomzwangedwa. Sonke sadalwa njalo. Labo abathi ngoba bengabafundisi abasakwenzi lokhuyana okusemsamu, bayaqabuka sesibabala emaphepheni.

Ingani lalabo ababala i bible bathi abantwana bakankulunkulu bahawukela abantwana babantu behla babuya bazidlela kwazalwa ama giant. Lingiqondise nxa ngiphazamisa.

Ngesintu ukungena emzini wenye indoda yikweqa uthango. Nxa ezibuyele yedwa uzihlalele edumbeni lakho, yisifebe indoda yakhe imele imxotshe, full stop.

Yimi okaMblazi.

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#34761 - 09/11/07 01:14 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: kanti9Kunjalo]
Muntongenakudla Offline
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BREAKING NEWS!!!

I-Village Pope yenu yodumo, u-Pius Ncube, has resigned from ubuholi base Roma.

This confirms ukuthi ihlazo lakhe lobu phingi bakhe has finally caught up with him. He must just hang his head in shame ngama nyala akhe la.

Ubunuku obungaka!

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

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#34764 - 09/11/07 02:34 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
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I am sure all of us can read and make good sense of this article. We do not have to be misled! There is no confirmation of nothing. Justice will be served in a court of law!!

http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/roma44.18904.html


By Cris Chinaka
Last updated: 09/11/2007 09:43:24
ZIMBABWEAN Catholic Archbishop Pius Ncube, an outspoken critic of President Robert Mugabe, resigned on Tuesday, two months after being sued for adultery in a case which he called a vicious government-backed attack.

The 60-year-old cleric, head of the southern Bulawayo archdiocese since 1997, said in a statement he was resigning to protect the Church, but would defend himself against the adultery charges in court.

"I wrote to the Pope within days of what was obviously a state-driven, vicious attack not just on myself but by proxy on the Catholic Church in Zimbabwe," Ncube said.

The Vatican said in a one-sentence statement that Pope Benedict had accepted Ncube's resignation under an article of Church law which covers clergy who can no longer perform their duties for health reasons. It has also sometimes been used in cases of clerics who brought their office into disrepute.

In July, Zimbabwe's state-run media published what it said were photos of Ncube in bed with a woman.

The cleric has accused Mugabe and his government of human rights abuses and suppressing political dissent.

In his statement, Ncube vowed he would remain vocal against Mugabe and hinted he might go into politics.

"In order to spare my fellow bishops and the body of the Church any further attacks, I decided this (resignation) was the best course of action."
He added that he would face his accusers in court as an individual.
Zimbabwe's state-owned Herald and Chronicle newspapers ran photos of the archbishop under the headlines "Pius Ncube Shamed" and "Pius in Sex Scandal."

Ncube's supporters said the report was part of a government smear campaign prompted by the archbishop's anti-Mugabe stance.

Ncube said although many would be bitterly disappointed that he had resigned, a few would be delighted by what they would see as an accomplished mission.

"(But) I have not been silenced by the crude machinations of a wicked regime. I am committed to promoting the social teachings of the Church," he said.

"I will use my experiences working among the people to lobby for greater humanitarian support, in particular food and medical supplies at this time of extreme national crisis," he added.

"I will continue to speak out on the issues that sadly become more acute by the day."

Ncube, who has been taunted by Mugabe to leave the church and join politics, said he would decide on his future in the next few weeks.

"I have various options available at the moment and will decide ... which will provide the best platform to continue with God's work," he said.

There was no immediate reaction from Mugabe's government.

In March, Ncube said he was ready to face bullets in anti-government protests to help bring democratic change in the southern African nation, which is mired in a deep economic and political crisis. - Reuters

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#34765 - 09/11/07 03:00 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
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Registered: 08/20/01
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Nzarayapenga celebrates!

Originally Posted By: Muntongenakudla
BREAKING NEWS!!!

I-Village Pope yenu yodumo, u-Pius Ncube, has resigned from ubuholi base Roma.

This confirms ukuthi ihlazo lakhe lobu phingi bakhe has finally caught up with him. He must just hang his head in shame ngama nyala akhe la.

Ubunuku obungaka!

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi


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#34766 - 09/11/07 03:09 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mabila]
Potshoza Offline
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STATEMENT FROM ARCHBISHOP PIUS NCUBE:
Bulawayo -Zimbabwe

TUESDAY 11 SEPTEMBER 2007

Today the Vatican will publicise their acceptance of an offer of resignation tendered to them by myself in July. I wrote to the Pope within days of what was obviously a State driven, vicious attack not just on myself, but by proxy on the Catholic Church in Zimbabwe. In order to spare my fellow Bishops and the body of the Church any further attacks, I decided this was the best course of action. It has been necessary for me to wait for the Vatican to acknowledge my resignation before making it public. It is my feeling that I should face this case in court as Pius Ncube, an individual, not that the Holy Catholic Church of God should seem to be on trial because I am its head.

I know that there will be many of you who will be bitterly disappointed at my leaving my post as Archbishop of Bulawayo ? and a few who will be delighted, seeing their mission as having been accomplished. To the many thousands of Catholics and ordinary Zimbabweans as well as those in the international community who have stood by me in my hour of need, who have offered their prayers and stood in solidarity with me, I thank you all from the depths of my heart.

I remain a Catholic Bishop in Zimbabwe, and will continue to speak out on the issues that sadly become more acute by the day. I am committed to the Word of Our Lord Jesus Christ, and see my decision as opening up new opportunities to serve Him through serving the poor and suffering of Zimbabwe, who sadly become more numerous and more impoverished every day.

I remain unshakably committed to the Mission declared by Christ: ?The Spirit of the Lord is upon me for he has anointed me to bring the good news to the afflicted. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to captives, sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free, to proclaim a year of favour from the Lord?. [Luke 4: 18-19].

Recent events have brought me closer to God and have given me a clearer sense of mission. I have not been silenced by the crude machinations of a wicked regime. I am committed to promoting the social teachings of the Church, and to working among the poorest and most needy in Zimbabwe. My wish is to be a lowly servant of all: as stated by Jesus, ?I came not to be served, but to serve.? [Matthew 20:28]

I will use my experiences working among the people to lobby for greater humanitarian support, in particular for food and medical supplies at this time of extreme national crisis. I have various options available at the moment, both within the Church and within the civic movement, and will decide in the next few weeks which will provide the best platform to continue with God?s work. My passion is to get closer to God through prayer and to preach the Gospel so that people move away from selfishness to care for God and others, and to fight for human rights.

?Go out to the whole world, proclaim the Gospel to all creation.? [Mark 16:15].

May God bless and be with all of us.
+Pius Ncube

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#34767 - 09/11/07 03:13 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mabila]
Muntongenakudla Offline
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Mthiyane, ngwane, ntombi yakwethu, you've obviously lost your sense of objectivity. Your hero-worshiping of this charlatan, Pius Ncube, clouds your moral judgement & objective assessment of the man & his deeds. You can't condemn ubundlavini boMgodoyi & laud ubufebe bomfundisi waseRoma. In as much as uPius wansondo lona elwa neNja, okusalayo, naye unamanyala. Lomuntu uyisibonelo esimbi emphakathini.

Iqiniso yiqiniso. Bad is bad. Ihlazo yihlazo in anybody's language. Ukuphinga kuyisi qalekiso phambi kobuso bukaJehova. Ubundlavini buya shaqisa emphakathini.

In the crusade of ukwakha uMthwakazi wenu lo, isende lendlela yenu. The moral standards of your imaginary state of Mthwakazi have gone to the dogs. If iziphingi are lauded as heroes - then God bless us all. If moral leaders gone astray are not condemned, then woe unto your Mthwakazian dream.

There's no smoke without a fire. That Pius has resigned is de facto proof of ihlazo lakhe. He jumped to avoid excommunication. Ishilo incwadi engcwele yathi: "ngomhla wokuphela, uyokuvuna ngoku hlwanyela". It's pay day kuyena. The bed that he lay on ephinga, has come back to haunt him. Akudlile sekumvukele ke manje. His ghosts have come back to haunt him. The skeletons in his closet have been exposed. The goon is exposed for who he really is. Isigebengu somalusi odla izimvu sesi phumele obala. His sodomy & philanderous ways are written on the wall now. As Peter Tosh says in his song, Pay Day,:
"Cannot plant turnip & reap yum
Cannot plan grapefruit & reap tomato
Cannot plant peas & reap rice
Cannot drink water & get drunk
Cannot drink whiskey & stay sober"


Pius has reaped what he sow. Aphelile amaqhinga ku chakide.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
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Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga!
Igcokama likaNdonga.
Isishwapha sikaSomkhele.
Yangcol' into ngayintshinga - bayicosha abafokazana!
Futheka mnyekefuli.
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#34768 - 09/11/07 03:14 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Potshoza]
Mabila Offline
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Thanks Baba Potshoza!! Man of substance the Bishop is!!
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#34769 - 09/11/07 03:18 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
Mabila Offline
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Mkhulu!

Why are you joining the bandwagon that is trying the Bishop in the ZPF sponsored media and not in a court of law? Why are you convicting him in the court of public opinion as if lawe usebenzela iZPF??? The Bishop like all of us has a right to mount a legal defense and defend himself from these accusations; which is all they are at the moment. If you look at the title of this thread, it is appropriately punctuated with question marks!!I expect better from you Mkhulu ufundile wena!!
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#34770 - 09/11/07 03:29 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mabila]
Muntongenakudla Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
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Loc: Mtubatuba
Mshana

Pius is as guilty (of adultery & sodomy) as the Devil himself. He jumped to avoid excommunication. He knows indaba yakhe iphelile, & the Vatican would have nothing to do with him, but excommunicate him. He has no iota of alibi against amacala abekwe wona. Ubufakazi bama video bukhona: emapunapuna edla abafazi babantu, izalukazi nabafana abancane! Sies amanyala anjena!

And please note, this is the plain truth. It has nothing to do with my political orientation. And mind you, angi chemeli hlangothi kwezo mbusazwe wezwe loMgodoyi. In other words, I'm an independent observer, not clouded by any love or hero-worship of anyone. I speak the truth & let the heavens fall.

Mark my words: Pius Ncube will lose the civil case brought against him by this Mgodoyi sponsored Sibanda goon.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
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uShamase wangempela!
Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga!
Igcokama likaNdonga.
Isishwapha sikaSomkhele.
Yangcol' into ngayintshinga - bayicosha abafokazana!
Futheka mnyekefuli.
Ngiwuphula ngamabomu umoya wakho - yilento ekubulalayo!

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#34771 - 09/11/07 03:33 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
Mabila Offline
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Let us wait for the trial and weigh in all the evidence. Those vidoes will be ferociously contested I am sure. That is the prerogative of justice!
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#34772 - 09/11/07 03:36 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
Inkosi uMzilikazi ka Mashobane Offline
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Registered: 03/26/07
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Loc: Mzansi
Muntu, ake uchasise,

Inkinga yakho ngoMthwakazi yini? Ngivele ngiyadidana angizwisisi?

Akusho mfowethu ngilalele.
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#34773 - 09/11/07 03:42 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
Potshoza Offline
Nduna

Registered: 08/20/01
Posts: 481
Loc: Leamington Spa

Eye SODOMY ngeyamaphupho kaNzara! Yet he has the audacity to tell us "this is the plain truth".


Originally Posted By: Muntongenakudla
Mshana

Pius is as guilty (of adultery & sodomy) as the Devil himself. He jumped to avoid excommunication. He knows indaba yakhe iphelile, & the Vatican would have nothing to do with him, but excommunicate him. He has no iota of alibi against amacala abekwe wona. Ubufakazi bama video bukhona: emapunapuna edla abafazi babantu, izalukazi nabafana abancane! Sies amanyala anjena!

And please note, this is the plain truth. It has nothing to do with my political orientation. And mind you, angi chemeli hlangothi kwezo mbusazwe wezwe loMgodoyi. In other words, I'm an independent observer, not clouded by any love or hero-worship of anyone. I speak the truth & let the heavens fall.

Mark my words: Pius Ncube will lose the civil case brought against him by this Mgodoyi sponsored Sibanda goon.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

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#34774 - 09/12/07 01:01 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Potshoza]
Zwangendaba Offline
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Bafowethu.

Angivumelani lawe mngane Muntu. Umshanekazi wakho uthi wena ufundile. I also expect you are.

Hayi mfana mani, this case is built by the Mgodhoyhi Gvt, it is going to be tried by them, and the sentencing is theirs. They are the prosecutor, Jury and Judge.

When LOOKOUT MASUKU was arrested in 1982, ALL THE MEDIA , INDEPENDENT OBSERVERS, and THOSE WHO WISHED ILL ON OUR PEOPLE, tried him in public, and true to their wishes he DIED at the HANDS OF MGAXHABE. But do we remember that the HIGHEST COURT IN THE LAND, HAD FOUND HIM INNOCENT????? Was it not proven after they murdered him in Prison that he was innocent????? Did they not admit to that without opening their mouths by releasing some of the prisoners and gunning for the ILL-FATED UNITY?????

Personaly I KNOW PIUS NCUBE IS INNOCENT. For that reason, I will use the best INSTINCS OF NATIONAL SURVIVAL - NEVER LEAVE YOUR WOUNDED BEHIND. I will stand by Ncube. He is being framed like they did ZAPU in the early eighties. Those wounds they inflicted on us bear witness to the EVIL SYSTEM OF ZIMBWA-MANJE. The scars are too big to hide.

Let us give the COURTS the chance to prove us wrong.

Li Zwangendaba.


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#34777 - 09/12/07 03:21 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Zwangendaba]
Muntongenakudla Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 649
Loc: Mtubatuba
Zwangendaba

The courts, biased as they are, will unfortunately decide Pius' fate. Be that as it may, Pius is guilty of sodomy, adultery & breaking his celibacy oath.

His resignation speaks for itself. He is not squeaky clean. Uwenzile wonke lodoti okwi video yeNja. He knows that i-Vatican has no time for konke lokhu kungcola kwakhe. They'll just excommunicate him at the drop of a hat - based on ubufakazi bobu ndlavini bakhe. He has no place in the Catholic church. He belongs in Sodom & Gomora.

For the life of me, I can't fathom why you guys insist that he is being framed. Pius is not being framed at all. Uwenzile lamanyala akhe. All that has happened is, uMgodoyi set unoxhaka (a trap) to expose him for what he truly is. The gloves were off, and Mgodoyi had to attack, fighting back with means foul. Phela uma seku lwiwa kwesoMgodoyi, kuchitheka amabhodwe, kusuk' amaphepha, kusal' amabhokisi! Pius should have known that.

Mina kaNkwali ngithi indaba mayibekwe ogqokweni. Iqiniso mali phumel' obala. Let not double standards be applied as far as Pius is concerned. Caiphus Katse Semenya says, in his song, Play With Fire,: "if you struggling for the people, put the people in front". Indeed. A liberator cannot simultaneously be an oppressor of the very people he purports to free. To that extent, uPius akakwazi ukuba yisigagayi sokulwela amalungelo abantu on one hand, abuye awaphule lawo malungelo everyday. Akakwazi ukuthi eyisibonelo esimbi emphakathini, yet seek to expose izenzo ezimbi zoMgodoyi. Akakwazi ukuthi put a front opposing gross human rights abuses perpetrated by iNja, vocally opposing ukuhlunyezwa koquqaba. Yet yena abe mapunapuna edla izalukazi who are at his mercy, taking advantage of the downtrodden & poverty strikken God's children seeking homage endlini kaSomandla asebenzela kuyona. Athi sodomise hungry young boys, azibonisele kuma khosikazi amanye amadoda, amithise abe nezingane emizini yabantu, spreading ingculaza yakhe - echitha imishado, ebhidliza imizi yabantu! In anybody's language, this is plain dirty. Akubukeki kahle neze. Especially for a 61yr old man. Let alone a moral leader, a man of God - sworn to celibacy!

He is a preacherman gone astray. A charlatan. These are double standards. He is running with the hare & hunting with the hound. His deeds go against the very core of his crusade against iNja.

I say, if Pius was squeaky clean, ebezo gibela indiza aye eVatican, achaze kabanzi ubumsulwa bakhe, and the glory of God would have set him free. That he chose to fall on his sword is proof of the fact that aphelile amaqhinga kachakide. Uhlaze igama leRoma, uhlukumeze ama lungelo ezingane, unukubeze izalukazi ezimpofu ngokocansi. He abused his high, holy & trusted offices by committing sodomy & adultery endlini kaSomandla!

Sies ngama nyala la! He must repent.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

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Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga!
Igcokama likaNdonga.
Isishwapha sikaSomkhele.
Yangcol' into ngayintshinga - bayicosha abafokazana!
Futheka mnyekefuli.
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#34778 - 09/12/07 04:16 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
Mabila Offline
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Ngombono wakho Mkhulu, there is absolutely no need for Mfundisi to be put on trial. It would be a total waste of taxpayer's pennies to do so but they will do it anyway. Is that what you are saying?

Not only is Mfundisi guilty in your eyes, the Mgaxa system will find him guilty anyway. Guilty before proven innocent is your legal standard in this matter. There is no need to establish any "proof" from the evidence in your stance; which I find perplexing. What a curious concept of pursuing justice that is, especially given your own admission that UMfundisi ufakelwe unoxhaka!!
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#34779 - 09/12/07 05:10 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
Potshoza Offline
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Originally Posted By: Muntongenakudla

... Pius is guilty of sodomy, adultery & breaking his celibacy oath.



Do you understand the meaning of sodomy Nzarayapenga? Or are you spewing you usual mischevious nonsense? Since you seem to be the only one hurling accusations of sodomy, are you also the only witness to this?

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#34783 - 09/13/07 06:10 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Potshoza]
Muntongenakudla Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 649
Loc: Mtubatuba
Mshana

Kungathi awungizwa kahle.

I never said I support ubulungiswa (justice) obuthe phecelezi base zweni leNja. Cha. I have said it before, & I'll reiterate namhlanje ngithi: angichemeli hlangothi kwezo mbusazwe wezwe leNja. By ukungachemi I mean: I'm not biased towards any side in the political divide yakwaMgodoyi. The sooner you get it clear, the more objective you'll be in reading my postings. Then we'll sing from the same hymn book.

Pius is not being framed. Kwacushwa unoxhaka, wavele wabanjwa. Umbuzo wukuthi: if emsulwa, why unoxhaka uvele wambamba xhaka, forcing him to resign? Kuyefana nanokuthi wena uyi vocal & overzealous "Arrive Alive" activist, yet kolunye uhlangothi uyi speedster ngasese, uphula leyo migomo oyesekayo emphakathini. Ebese ufakelwa i-speed camera, ithwebule isithombe sakho ushayela ngesi vinini so 240km/h. My question to you on this score is: have you been framed? Or rather you have been exposed for what you truly are: ie a pretender, a reckless & negligent, dangerous driver?

The problem I have with nina bantu bakwaMgodoyi is: you don't wanna face the truth. You wanna bury your small heads in the sand, be clouded by your hero-worshipping & lose track of your duty towards objectivity. As a result, all your role models are wrong models.

Ngiyani dabukela ngoba umuntu owanenzela phansi kwase kuqaleni yisiququva seKalanga elinguJoshua Nkomo. That intellectual midget fcuked up your future. He kakked up on the future yesizwe sakini wani shiya izinqe zivele obala emphakathini. As such, anisazi what you truly deserve. Consequently, when charlatans like Pius come up, you see a messiah. You let him use & abuse ogogo, sodomise abafana abancane, ebhidliza imizi yabantu, ebhebhethekisa ingculaza yakhe - & laud him nithi ulungile ngoba elwa neNja. You deserve better. Why are you doing this to yourselves?

Mina wanga phesheya koThukela ngithi: Pius is the religious equivalent of Mgodoyi. The curse that iNja is to politics, is what Pius is kweze nkolo. They're both bad men, evil goons that have no place in civilised, decent human society. They have manifested the worst side of themselves & therefore prostituted their intellects. Ngabantu benge bantu. They belong esiqiwini (zoo).

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
_________________________
uShamase wangempela!
Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga!
Igcokama likaNdonga.
Isishwapha sikaSomkhele.
Yangcol' into ngayintshinga - bayicosha abafokazana!
Futheka mnyekefuli.
Ngiwuphula ngamabomu umoya wakho - yilento ekubulalayo!

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#34784 - 09/13/07 07:28 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Potshoza]
Mayihlome Offline
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Registered: 12/02/03
Posts: 69
Loc: Mhlanga Rocks

Potshoza, kukhona abanye abantu abathanda ukuthi babonakale sengathi bafundile. Ubathola besebenzisa amagama esikhiwa aqatha, inqamlamhlathi, bengazi ukuthi atshoni ngenxa yokuthi bezwa omunye ewakhuluma, kube kanti ayabe engachazi lutho kulokho abakhuluma ngakho.....Yikho engibona kuyenzakala lapha.

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#34786 - 09/13/07 09:05 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mayihlome]
Muntongenakudla Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
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Loc: Mtubatuba
Mayihlome

If you assess ukufunda ugogode as muzzled down to just knowing the meaning of Sodomy, then you're a complete moegoe -isiduphunga solopholo ovuz' amathe. Kusengenzeka uyile nhlobo edla ubhubhamhlaba!

If you don't know what sodomy is, then ngithi: qimba ebese uyoqulusa phambi koPius Ncube. Koba wuku qhanyelwa kwakhe umfundisi wansondo. I assure you, uzoku bonisa practically, 9 9, u-Village Pope wenu lona ukuthi yini i-Sodomy!

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
_________________________
uShamase wangempela!
Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga!
Igcokama likaNdonga.
Isishwapha sikaSomkhele.
Yangcol' into ngayintshinga - bayicosha abafokazana!
Futheka mnyekefuli.
Ngiwuphula ngamabomu umoya wakho - yilento ekubulalayo!

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#34787 - 09/13/07 11:18 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
omnyama Offline
Sakhamuzi

Registered: 06/21/07
Posts: 97
Loc: banana republic
Muntu,
weNkwali, nani nonke kuloludaba,
AmaRoma afihle ihlazo lawo lokuhlukumeza izingane nabesifazane okweminyaka eminingi. Izinto sezivela manje. Khumbulani ukuthi kweleMelika babhekene namacala abiza izigidi zama dola! Ngakho akumangalisi okuka Pius Ncube.

Akelizwe lokhu:
http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=scandal

Forced celibacy, which is unBiblical is the source of these problems! uPawuli who was not married nevertheless advised:

I Cor. 7:1-9
1: Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
2: Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
3: Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4: The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
5: Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
6: But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.
7: For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
8: I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.
9: But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

uPawuli uthi kungcono ukugana, uzekane nowangakwakho kunokusha!!!

Roman Catholics do not accept the Bible's authority alone for their teachings and practice ... but say (human)church tradition and certain individual's teachings, like Popes are equally authoritative. No wonder they are in such trouble.

omnyama!!!

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#34790 - 09/13/07 12:41 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
Mabila Offline
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Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 2124
Loc: Ayowa
Mkhulu!

Mfundisi will have an opportunity to defend the charges against him in a court of law khona kwelikaMgaxa. All the evidence must be tested and validated in court! Nxa etholakale elenzile leli cala abamethesa lona, he will be found "guilty" and liable. Nxa etholakale engalenzanga, he will be found "not guilty". End of story!

Mina angisoze ngikwenze ukumethesa icala lingakathonisiswa emthethwandaba and go by insinuations only. That is what you are prepared to do and it's subjective. I am not doing it yet Mkhulu. All I am saying to you is this; allow due process and only then can you convict Mfundisi. That is my position!!

UTswangilayi was charged with treason under very similar circumstances with involvement of a video camera, Babethi bambambe "xhaka" ethi he will eliminate uMgaxa. He was found "not guilty" by a court of law! He walked from court a free man after all the public media frenzy had nailed him.

Give Mfundisi a chance to prove his innocense. It is only fair and objective! I cannot be more clearer than this!

Originally Posted By: Muntongenakudla
Mshana

Kungathi awungizwa kahle.

I never said I support ubulungiswa (justice) obuthe phecelezi base zweni leNja. Cha. I have said it before, & I'll reiterate namhlanje ngithi: angichemeli hlangothi kwezo mbusazwe wezwe leNja. By ukungachemi I mean: I'm not biased towards any side in the political divide yakwaMgodoyi. The sooner you get it clear, the more objective you'll be in reading my postings. Then we'll sing from the same hymn book.

Pius is not being framed. Kwacushwa unoxhaka, wavele wabanjwa. Umbuzo wukuthi: if emsulwa, why unoxhaka uvele wambamba xhaka, forcing him to resign? Kuyefana nanokuthi wena uyi vocal & overzealous "Arrive Alive" activist, yet kolunye uhlangothi uyi speedster ngasese, uphula leyo migomo oyesekayo emphakathini. Ebese ufakelwa i-speed camera, ithwebule isithombe sakho ushayela ngesi vinini so 240km/h. My question to you on this score is: have you been framed? Or rather you have been exposed for what you truly are: ie a pretender, a reckless & negligent, dangerous driver?

The problem I have with nina bantu bakwaMgodoyi is: you don't wanna face the truth. You wanna bury your small heads in the sand, be clouded by your hero-worshipping & lose track of your duty towards objectivity. As a result, all your role models are wrong models.

Ngiyani dabukela ngoba umuntu owanenzela phansi kwase kuqaleni yisiququva seKalanga elinguJoshua Nkomo. That intellectual midget fcuked up your future. He kakked up on the future yesizwe sakini wani shiya izinqe zivele obala emphakathini. As such, anisazi what you truly deserve. Consequently, when charlatans like Pius come up, you see a messiah. You let him use & abuse ogogo, sodomise abafana abancane, ebhidliza imizi yabantu, ebhebhethekisa ingculaza yakhe - & laud him nithi ulungile ngoba elwa neNja. You deserve better. Why are you doing this to yourselves?

Mina wanga phesheya koThukela ngithi: Pius is the religious equivalent of Mgodoyi. The curse that iNja is to politics, is what Pius is kweze nkolo. They're both bad men, evil goons that have no place in civilised, decent human society. They have manifested the worst side of themselves & therefore prostituted their intellects. Ngabantu benge bantu. They belong esiqiwini (zoo).

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
_________________________
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It is not my responsibility to finish the work, but I have to start it!

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#34791 - 09/13/07 12:52 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
ntombankala Offline
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Registered: 11/06/02
Posts: 205
Loc: Zimbabwe
Muntongenakudla: mfethu limqotho elakho ngeke sikubalekele lokho okushoyo. kubuhlungu kodwa yiqiniso. Wenza ihlazo uPius ngoba phela ngokushiya umsebenzi uvumile ukuthi ubephinga. Ngivumelana nawe ekutheni yebo uMgodoyi ngumgodoyi kodwa wenza iphutha ke elikhulu uPius. Wayengafanele enze ihlazo elinjengaleli. Ngeke ngize ngithi ubalekele i Excommunication ke ngoba iVatican "ivumile" ukuthi ashiye isihlalo sika Archi - Bishop. Kanginalo ulwazi lo Mthetho sisekelo (constitution) wama Roma. Kodwa uma ibandla lama Roma kumbe yena u Pope esenzile isinqumo sokuxosha (excommunicate) loPius, angiboni ukuthi yini ebingenqabela lokho. I dont think resignation would either.

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#34792 - 09/13/07 02:25 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: ntombankala]
Potshoza Offline
Nduna

Registered: 08/20/01
Posts: 481
Loc: Leamington Spa

Mayihlome,

Ngiyakuzwa wethu. Onzarayapenga bayazi ukuthi akula cala abangamethesa lona uMfoka Ncube. That's why they are concocting allegations and bringing in "sodomy!"

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#34793 - 09/13/07 03:29 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Potshoza]
ntombankala Offline
Sikhulu

Registered: 11/06/02
Posts: 205
Loc: Zimbabwe
Inzima le eka Ncube kodwa mina phela wonke umuntu olwa noMgodoyi njengo Pius ngiyamsekela. Yonki miqondo elapha iqondile. Yimibono yethu. Nanxa wamudla lowo mama, bakithi ngokwabo bobabili. Singathini phela achithekile. Kodwa uNkulunkulu nguye ke ongamethesa icala uPius. Soyicela ivuthiwe. None of us are without fault ...of any type. But still we cannot be blind. That is why I will stand behind Mshosholozi, Bill Clinton, and Pius any day. Laba obaba ngobaba impela

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#34794 - 09/14/07 01:21 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: ntombankala]
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Bafowethu.

Ngincindezele:
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The problem I have with nina bantu bakwaMgodoyi is: you don't wanna face the truth. You wanna bury your small heads in the sand, be clouded by your hero-worshipping & lose track of your duty towards objectivity. As a result, all your role models are wrong models.

Ngiyani dabukela ngoba umuntu owanenzela phansi kwase kuqaleni yisiququva seKalanga elinguJoshua Nkomo. That intellectual midget fcuked up your future. He kakked up on the future yesizwe sakini wani shiya izinqe zivele obala emphakathini. As such, anisazi what you truly deserve. Consequently, when charlatans like Pius come up, you see a messiah. You let him use & abuse ogogo, sodomise abafana abancane, ebhidliza imizi yabantu, ebhebhethekisa ingculaza yakhe - & laud him nithi ulungile ngoba elwa neNja. You deserve better. Why are you doing this to yourselves?
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Wena mfana, akuzame ukuthoba umlomo wakho. Asisibo bantu baka Mgodoyi thina.

SHAMASE, ULABO NA WENA LOBUFAKAZI BENDABA KA BABA U NCUBE?????

Do not refere me to the ZANU video evidence. Ngithi wena ulabo na lobufakazi????? Are you going to be HUMAN ENOUGH to apologize to this INKUNDLA when the results come out otherwise?????

Wena mfana!

Li Zwangendaba.


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#34795 - 09/14/07 01:28 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: ntombankala]
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Mabila nalindoda yeThombankala ngale eSeshanke nanzelelani ukuthi umfundisi useyavuma icalalakhe, ngakhoke usezicaye yedwa pho ukhalani ukutshutshuma yena ezicaye edwaleni. Udlalekubi lomfazi womuntu bakithi lendaba kayihlekisi madoda siphongu' kuyihlekanje. Asibonanzelela ukuthi kusosonke isikhathi ungawenza umsebenzi omuhle phose okwempilo yakho yonke, kodwa ungalahleka ekucineni kulahleka yonke into. Kumfundisi, uligabazi sibili kodwa hayi kubomama babantu. Besikuthembile sibili, kodwake Tshana nyamazanayami.

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#34796 - 09/14/07 02:30 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Meli Omuhle]
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You obviously do not understand my position on this issue!!

Originally Posted By: Meli Omuhle
Mabila nalindoda yeThombankala ngale eSeshanke nanzelelani ukuthi umfundisi useyavuma icalalakhe, ngakhoke usezicaye yedwa pho ukhalani ukutshutshuma yena ezicaye edwaleni. Udlalekubi lomfazi womuntu bakithi lendaba kayihlekisi madoda siphongu' kuyihlekanje. Asibonanzelela ukuthi kusosonke isikhathi ungawenza umsebenzi omuhle phose okwempilo yakho yonke, kodwa ungalahleka ekucineni kulahleka yonke into. Kumfundisi, uligabazi sibili kodwa hayi kubomama babantu. Besikuthembile sibili, kodwake Tshana nyamazanayami.
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#34797 - 09/14/07 02:37 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Meli Omuhle]
Muntongenakudla Offline
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Loc: Mtubatuba
Zwangendaba

I will apologise uma kuthe kwavela ukuthi uPius umsulwa. Kepha ngeke kuze kwenzeke lokho. Inkomo ingamzal' umuntu kwaNkwali.

I won't need to apologise, because his resignation speaks for itself. Lomuntu uwenzile wonke lodoti abhekane nawo. Do you think he'd resign if there's no iota of truth to the video evidence ekhona njenga manje?

This case might have some similarities neka Arie Ben Menashe. Kepha, do you think lezo zithombe zakhe ebhebha izalukazi, kunye naba fazi babantu are doctored? Do you think lezo zingane ezimbili azizale nomfazi womuntu were also lab manufactured by Mgodoyi to adopt Pius' genes? Are the HIV positive results zoPius also false? Do you think uMgodoyi is so scientifically advanced ukuthi apheke lomquba? If ubuka the approach kaNicholas Mathonsi (Pius' lawyer): firstly, he wants a blow by blow break down of what constitutes the amount of claim against Pius. Secondly, he wants this Sibanda fellow to show cause why he considers MaSibanda his wife, as to imply that the activity between Pius & MaSibanda constituted adultery. Why would Nicholas take this approach uma umthondo kaPius ungazange uthintane nengquza kaMaSibanda? Why doesn't the learned Nicholas just oppose the whole vague amount as a sham, a frivolous product of a deranged mind? Cha bo Zwangendaba. Musa ukuphikisa yonk' into engiyi shoyo - just because vese uyamzonda uMuntongenakudla. Iqiniso lizo vela and uzosho uthi umntaka Somkhele uya pholofitha - kanti cha, ngikhuluma into esobala njenge ngquza yembuzi.

If you were to be objective for once, and stop looking at Pius with hero-worshipping eyes, uzobona ukuthi ukuhoxa kwakhe esikhundleni sobuholi baseRoma kusho i-de facto admission to izono zakhe. Uyavuma lomuntu lona ukuthi akasa kulungele ukuphatha ibandla laseRoma - not because he's been framed, but rather, because his evil actions have been exposed.

Akekho msulwa uPius - ungcolile, unama nyala. Just stop, think & imagine the trauma ezokhawatha leyo ndoda yomfazi onezingane zobufebe boPius. This is humiliating - it's shattering. In addition, leyo ndoda is as good as dead ngoba isihaqwe yingculaza kaPius. This is grossly unfair. It's Satanic. Pius Ncube is a very evil, inhuman & devilish creature.

Abantu abafana njengo Pius are not needed emphakathini - yizi ndlavini okufanele zikhandwe ngamatshe, zibulawe, ziphakelwe izinyoni zezulu.

As uMmeli omuhle says, nami ngiya meseka ngithi: Shana nyamazane yami! Let the goon reap what he's sown!

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
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Futheka mnyekefuli.
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#34799 - 09/14/07 05:52 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
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Uyazi MkhwanaNzi uyawabeka amagama amakhulu njalo aqatha kodwa anoniswe umoya otshisayo. Isayensi ithi umoya otshisayo usuke uphunguleke isisindo sawo, bese uyandenda nje unyuke uqonge uhwithwe yisivunguzane. Kunjalo ke ngalamagama owabeka lapha esigungwini. Uyavayindela uhlobonga ngolimi usethusela wonke othe wangavumelani lawe.

Okunye okungimangalisayo ngawe, phezu kokuziqakisa okukhulu kangako yiloba kusenyanyeka, yikuthi usuke nje wenze njengawowonke amapantsula lemijibha yakomgonondo ethi ingachapha uNgulukudela bese ibona sengathi seyisezulwini likaNkulunkulu bese iyaziphakamisa izivuthele izifutshana ikhangelela izihlobo zayo phansi. Wena bengingathi uzalelwe eTsholotsho nje? Khona kanye esigodlweni sobuKhalanga kodwa yini sengikuzwa sewuzibiza owaphesheya, phesheya kwani ke MkhwanaNzi?, kumbe phesheya kobuntu.

Ukulala lomfazi womunye umuntu akusi 'criminal offence' kodwa kuyi 'civil liability'. Nanzelela amagama engiwasebenzisileyo lapha. I 'civil liability' kungafaniswa lokuthi nxa inkunzi yakho emnyama yamadlozi akwenu iseke yavuka ukeketane yabhidliza isilahla sami engisithembileyo besengikubophisa emthethweni, umthethwandaba wokufumana u'liable for civil damage' hatshi u 'guilty'. Kangako ke ukulala lomfazi wenye indoda kubalelwa emacaleni angahlaseli impilo kumbe isimo somuntu. Ngithini, ya, ngemva kokuba uNcube elele lalesisifebe sikaShumba akutholakalanga muntu esopha kumbe eqalekiswe yilesi sehlakalo kumbe ebulewe yiso. Okwenzakeleyo yikuthunukala kwezinhliziyo nje kuphela. Umthetho wezwe awulaso isigwebo sentolongo emacaleni anjengala. Isigwebo esingatholakala ngesokuhlawuliswa abakubiza bethi ngama'damages' nje kuphela.

Amacala omgonondo abalela ukuchakaza isizwe, ukuchitha igazi, ukwephula amalunga lamathambo emizimba, ukucobodisa amakhanda, ukunyamalaliswa, ukutshiswa inyama njalonjalo. La amacala yiwo ke abizwa 'criminal offences', Otholakala enala macala kuthiwa u 'guilty' kuthi isigwebo zikhathi ezinengi sisuke sigoqele intilongo.

Indlela osebenzisa ngayo amagama okululaza oxoxisana labo isuka ithene amandla lomfutho walokho ozama ukukuphawula bese uzwakala njengophondo lomgonondo. Lapha asithethi cala likaNcube kodwa sixoxisana ngendlela indaba le esuke yaphathwa ngayo. Phakathi kwethu sonke bengingazi kumbe ukhona onobufakazi obuqotho ngalesi sehlakalo, kangako yibuwula ukuthi sihle siphawule ukuba kulecala kumbe alikho singelabo lobobufakazi.

Besengithi kumbe uNcube uphingile kumbe uhlobongile kumbe udlwengule, akucitshi amacala omgonondo noma kanci. Kanjalo nxa kungenzeka ukuthi uNcube atholakale elayiliphi icala kumbe adale loba yiliphi icala, akungeze kwamenqabela ukuthi aqambe amacala omgonondo. Ngumbono wami ke lo. Onecala unecala omsulwa umsulwa.

Ukwengeza, sengiyabona nje MkhwanaNzi ukuba awezwisisi indlela ezisebenza ngamagqwetha. Igqhwetha eliwaziyo umsebenzi aleqeli ukuphika icala elingelamswane. UMathonsi ugxile ukuvezeni ukuthi uNcube akalacala. Imibuzo kaMathonsi le idinga ukuveza ukuba uNcube akalalo lelocala elitshiwoyo, ngani ngoba ukuze atholakale elalelocala lokulala lomfazi wenye indoda kudingeka ukuba kubelobufakazi obuqotho bokuthi loyo mfazi unayo leyondoda kanjalo leyondoda ilinyazwe kangakanani yilesosehlakalo. Nxa bungaswelakala lobo bufakazi, lecala lelo alikho. Lokhu kungafaniswa lokuthi mina sili elingumbacu, ngetheswe icala lokukubulala wena kaSomkhehle Mkhwananzi, kodwa kuswelakale isidumbu sakho esimpisholo. Igqwetha elimqotho elaziyo ukuthi lenzani, lizadinga ubufakazi bokuthi ngikubulele obuyikubakhona kwesidumbu sakho hatshi ukumpompoloza ephika ukuthi ngikubulele kumbe hatshi. Bengithi njengomuntu ofunde ngaphezu kwethu sonke lapha uzaba nolwazi lwalezizinto, kodwa cha ngiphosisile.


Edited by Siphepheli (09/14/07 06:19 PM)
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#34801 - 09/16/07 10:50 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Meli Omuhle]
Potshoza Offline
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Langesikhathi seGukurahundi babekhona ababesithi kwabanye tshana nyamazana yami babo kubomakhelwane. Okwenza kwabalula ukuthi iGukurahundi isebenze kwelakithi.

Abantu kababambane balwisane loMgabe, this issue is political.

UMgabe laye waye lala loGrace ngeskhathi uSally esifa. He never resigned over it, between the two assuming they have committed the same crime, ngubani ozethulileyo?

Originally Posted By: Meli Omuhle
Mabila nalindoda yeThombankala ngale eSeshanke nanzelelani ukuthi umfundisi useyavuma icalalakhe, ngakhoke usezicaye yedwa pho ukhalani ukutshutshuma yena ezicaye edwaleni. Udlalekubi lomfazi womuntu bakithi lendaba kayihlekisi madoda siphongu' kuyihlekanje. Asibonanzelela ukuthi kusosonke isikhathi ungawenza umsebenzi omuhle phose okwempilo yakho yonke, kodwa ungalahleka ekucineni kulahleka yonke into. Kumfundisi, uligabazi sibili kodwa hayi kubomama babantu. Besikuthembile sibili, kodwake Tshana nyamazanayami.

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#34804 - 09/17/07 11:36 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Potshoza]
Meli Omuhle Offline
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Registered: 01/03/07
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Into enhle ivele iyabukwa. Muhle sibili okaNcube umsebenzi wesizwe, ngikutshilo laphambilini. Kodwake bakwethu ilizwe yilizwe ngobuntu babantu balo. Ncube mfundisi yi leader elobuleader sibili engingeke ngaphikisana labo but, usuke wayakwembula owabanikazi. Lokhu bakwethu kubi. Kungelani wembule owe CIO, kubi kuyazila. Kithi babethi ungadlala labafazi babantu uzakufakubi. Umzekeliso wakho lowu owegukurahundi akungenelani ngitsho. Nanzelela ukuthi kwezombangazwe madoda labomama uNcube nambawani ukumelana laye umgabe, kodwake kulezi ezesintu kumbekunkolo hayi minangithi nxawakwenza usewile ngitsho ukuwa phu! Kakavumi yena kodwa ngokuyeka umsebenzi akwenzileyo hayi uyavuma.

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#34806 - 09/17/07 12:29 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Meli Omuhle]
Potshoza Offline
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Meli,

Lokho okutshoyo kuyezwakala kodwa okudanisayo yikuthi you are taking the accusers' word for it ukuthi ngumfazi wakhe. In the beginning the woman claimed they had separated and that Sibanda had left her when she went into the relationship with Pius Ncube. Let the courts handle this one if at all they are capable of handling it fairly.

If we take the woman's words for it then bekungasi mfazi wakhe uSibanda ngoba wayesemtshiyile wayahlala lomunye eNtumbane, hence no grounds for suing for loss of companionship.


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#34808 - 09/17/07 02:21 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Potshoza]
Muntongenakudla Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
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Loc: Mtubatuba
Phoshozwayo

I have a problem ngendlela enibuka ngayo uPius wenu lona.

For the life of me, I just can't fathom why & how nina bantu bakaMgodoyi have lost your moral compass. How on earth can you seek to justify ubunyefu bomfundisi obunje? Ngoba umfundisindini lona ulwa noMgodoyi nje vo! Cha bo - ihlazo yihlazo bantu boMgodoyi.

Whether MaSibanda is, was or will be Sibanda' wife is neither here nor there. Okufanele niku fakele izipopolo nina bantu beNja wukuthi, uPius wenu lona akana nembeza, akathembakali, ungumfundisi wamanga, uyisigebengu, yinswelaboya, indlavini, akana Nkulunkulu empilweni yakhe, uyisi qalekiso phambi kobuso buka Jehovah. He's clearly not fit to be a moral cum religious leader - hence his resignation. Followed to its finite conclusion - he's definitely unfit to lead a people's cry against iNja. He's as despicable a goon as iNja lena akhwaza everyday ethi iyabheda.

Bantu bakaMgodoyi, xukuzisani ugebhezi just for once. Susani ulwembu lokuba yizi habhu kwenu lokhu. Mbulani ifu elimnyama eli fiphaza imiqondo yenu. Manisuku vumela abaholi bamanga - charlatans, goons, wolves in sheep skins to mislead you. Pius is the biggest Jeremiah that ever lived ezweni leNja. Thankfully, sooner rather later, he'll be paying back for his sins. Ingculaza yakhe lena izomqumba phansi very soon! Uzovuna ngoku hlwanyela kwakhe uSathane waseRoma.

The sooner you Mgodoyi people realise ukuthi Pius is no saviour of your God forsakken country, the better it'd be for your lot. Leliya zwe is a much better place without Pius & his ilk of goons in the limeght.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi


Edited by Muthwa Ncube (09/17/07 02:45 PM)
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Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga!
Igcokama likaNdonga.
Isishwapha sikaSomkhele.
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Futheka mnyekefuli.
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#34811 - 09/17/07 04:52 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Potshoza]
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asazi njalo okunye umuntu uyabheka kuphela avale umlomo wakhe.ngiyazi buza lapha ukuthi yimi kumbe vele umhlaba awusalunganga .asazi ngivala umlomo ngivule amehlo .???

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#34812 - 09/17/07 08:58 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
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As a matter of interest Muntuongelakudla, akusitshele imicabango yakho ngoJacob Zuma.

Originally Posted By: Muntongenakudla
Phoshozwayo

I have a problem ngendlela enibuka ngayo uPius wenu lona.

For the life of me, I just can't fathom why & how nina bantu bakaMgodoyi have lost your moral compass. How on earth can you seek to justify ubunyefu bomfundisi obunje? Ngoba umfundisindini lona ulwa noMgodoyi nje vo! Cha bo - ihlazo yihlazo bantu boMgodoyi.

Whether MaSibanda is, was or will be Sibanda' wife is neither here nor there. Okufanele niku fakele izipopolo nina bantu beNja wukuthi, uPius wenu lona akana nembeza, akathembakali, ungumfundisi wamanga, uyisigebengu, yinswelaboya, indlavini, akana Nkulunkulu empilweni yakhe, uyisi qalekiso phambi kobuso buka Jehovah. He's clearly not fit to be a moral cum religious leader - hence his resignation. Followed to its finite conclusion - he's definitely unfit to lead a people's cry against iNja. He's as despicable a goon as iNja lena akhwaza everyday ethi iyabheda.

Bantu bakaMgodoyi, xukuzisani ugebhezi just for once. Susani ulwembu lokuba yizi habhu kwenu lokhu. Mbulani ifu elimnyama eli fiphaza imiqondo yenu. Manisuku vumela abaholi bamanga - charlatans, goons, wolves in sheep skins to mislead you. Pius is the biggest Jeremiah that ever lived ezweni leNja. Thankfully, sooner rather later, he'll be paying back for his sins. Ingculaza yakhe lena izomqumba phansi very soon! Uzovuna ngoku hlwanyela kwakhe uSathane waseRoma.

The sooner you Mgodoyi people realise ukuthi Pius is no saviour of your God forsakken country, the better it'd be for your lot. Leliya zwe is a much better place without Pius & his ilk of goons in the limeght.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
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#34813 - 09/17/07 10:13 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Ginyambila]
kanti9Kunjalo Offline
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Registered: 08/08/07
Posts: 53
Loc: Empangeni, Ningizimu Afrika
Ekuhle.

Discussions aside, ubaba u Shamase, is he attacking Ncube or the people of Mthwakazi? Nxa u Ncube elecala baba, ubuhlungu bakho buvela ngaphi? Why take it out on the people who are trying to reason IF THIS IS NOT THE USUAL PLOY BY NJASIBILI AT GETTING ABANTU BAKA MTHWAKAZI?

I must be quick to say I like your arguments baba, kodwa ule language yekho engenza ngisole kancane what your agenda is. You seem to be an against Ndebele personality, kodwa isibongo ngesesindebele kumbe njalo UYI BAYA-BAYA. Mayuyu.

Nxa kuyikuqhuba ingxoxo, danki no nkinga. I will not take you seriously henceforth.

Yimi okaMblazi.

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#34820 - 09/18/07 06:37 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: kanti9Kunjalo]
Muntongenakudla Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
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Loc: Mtubatuba
Bantu bakaMgodoyi

I find it sad that sekuba nonyawo lwemfene laph' esigungwini. Seems I'm now a target for censorship. Just look at the bottom of my last posting above - kuvele a Muthwa Ncube as having edited my writing. Dreadfully sad indeed. Not that this is the first time. I've always been targeted by izitatanyiswa zale website, deleting some of my postings & editing others. This is selective censorship because abanye abantu babhala noma yini, make scurrilous & ridiculous claptrap against me - things like ngingumShoza, ngisebenzela uMgodoyi etc. Hogwash, totally unfounded nonsense, some even insult my person - but they're never subjected to any editing whatsover.

Mangisho kinina ngithi: if kuwukuthi your dream is to create your so called Mthwakazi ezoba yi bastion of freedom & democracy, then this your dream is nothing but a nightmare. Yiphupho nje elizo shabalala njenga mazolo ebon' ilanga. It's clear ukuthi free thinking & rigorous debaters like myself are not tolerated in your Mthwakazi Republic. Not that I beg to be part of this state of mind in the first place.

My crusade is against double standards. Manisu kuthi pretend to be fighting for human rights, justice, freedom of speech, tolerance & are against ubundlavini beNja. Yet kolunye uhlangothi kube nicakafulana nami laph' esigungwini. Okusho nje ukuthi nina umthetho wenu ninga bacindezeli. This is why nikubona kulungile ukuthi uPius aphule amalungelo oquqaba olungenacala - just because he's vocal against iNja. That's why you can't stomach my guts. That's why this website is an extension of the oppressive regime yoMgodoyi.

Now I'm undone. I hate being controlled & my thoughts being muzzled. That's why nginga hlali KwaMgodoyi. I say: if you people feel I'm not adding any value by contributing in this forum - just tell me. If you feel ukuthi ngiyiphela ezindlebeni zenu, indlavini - a goon, then ngitsheleni. And being the proud Shamase Nkwali yenkosi I am, I'll quit. Quit for good. Never to come back. And this website will be a much better place. It'll deteriorate into the mutual admiration society you seem hell bent on turning it into (as the great Jazi once said).

It's a shame.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
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uShamase wangempela!
Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga!
Igcokama likaNdonga.
Isishwapha sikaSomkhele.
Yangcol' into ngayintshinga - bayicosha abafokazana!
Futheka mnyekefuli.
Ngiwuphula ngamabomu umoya wakho - yilento ekubulalayo!

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#34822 - 09/18/07 09:32 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
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Loc: Buqamama
Muntongenakudla;
This is my personal opinion: Yu are entitled to your own opinions like any other person, Kuphela mina uhlupho engilalo ngawe lulimi lwakho. Wafunda ye mfowethu kodwa iPublic Relations I suppose zakweqa. Khona manje yo last posting is addressed to abantu bomg.d.yi; ibala esintwini elivele liyinhlamba engakhulumekiyo emphakathini. And if I may ask kuyibaphi labobantu obalobelayo ababizwa ngaleyo title khonapha esigungwini? Tell yu what yu express yo opinions in a very offensive manner, and that kills the spirit of reasoning with one another & sharing ideas. Yo language over shadows yo point besekungathi pple are majoring on the form of yo writings and deliberately ignore the substance in it. Some even choose not to respond to yu ngoba uzwakala njengomuntu who is out to belittle others & to engage in needless verbal wars, so umuntu odinga ukufunda uhle abone ukukhuluma lawe kuyize.
Hlola ulimi lwakho mfowethu, Ungapapariki, Khuz'uvalo wehlise umoya, uzinuke amakhwapha. Akukhomuntu odinga ukubusa inqondo yakho. Kodwa uba uthanda ukutsho iqiniso ulimi lwakho lolu nxa ungakini emzini kayihlo awulusebenzisi ngoba lunxele. Ungalusebenzisa abakwenu bayathwala imikhono ekhanda bathi nansi imihlola ingena ekhaya bhadu bhadu ngenyawo zombili.
Free thinking and rigorous debates can be done without being valgur!!!
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#34823 - 09/18/07 09:58 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
Madlenya Offline
Ngqwele

Registered: 01/19/05
Posts: 195
Loc: KwelikaMjoji
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Muntongenakudla Bantu bakaMgodoyi

I find it sad that sekuba nonyawo lwemfene laph' esigungwini. Seems I'm now a target for censorship. Just look under my posting above - kuvele some Muthwa Ncube as having edited my writing. Dreadfully sad indeed. Not that this is the first time. I've always been targeted by izitatanyiswa zale website, deleting some of my postings & editing others. Abanye babhala noma yini, abanye make scurrilous & ridiculous nonsense against me - things like ngingumShoza, ngisebenzela uMgodoyi etc. Hogwash, totally unfounded nonsense, some even insult my person - but they're never subjected to any editing whatsover.


I am against censorship, but more so i am against uncouth language, totally disregard for manners and nilly willy insulting the nation of Mthwakazi. It is manifestly unfounded for anyone to insinuating that his postings and his alone are targeted. Many of our postings have been edited or completely removed by izikhulu zakulomkhandlu.

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Mangisho kinina ngithi: if kuwukuthi your dream is to create a so called Mthwakazi eyi bastion of freedom, then your dream is nothing but a nightmare. Yiphupho nje elizo shabalala njenga mazolo ebon' ilanga. It's clear ukuthi free thinking & rigorous debaters like myself are not tolerated in your Mthwakazi Republic. Not that I beg to be part of this state of mind in the first place.



You assign yourself the qualities and values you do not necessary uniquely posses. Many people here are free-thinkers. As a free-thinker is not licence to trample on other people's free-thinking. I have to admit that you are indeed a rigorous and predictable debater. Above all you are good master of languages, this is one of your characteristics i have always envied, i wish i had your language abilities, but this does not in anyway suggest that you are free-thinker or not. You haven't brought any ground breaking ideas here. I agree that you confuse controvese with free-thinking, you are a controversial character. How many ideas have shared with us which you could term unique? The ideas that you have brought up are the ideas that anyone on this forum could could come up with. The only difference will be a matter of semantics and syntax, nothing more nothing less.

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My crusade is against double standards. Manisu kuthi pretend to be fighting for human rights, justice, freedom of speech, tolerance & are against ubundlavini beNja. Yet kolunye uhlangothi kube nicakafulana nami laph' esigungwini. Okusho nje ukuthi nina umthetho wenu ninga bacindezeli. This is why nikubona kulungile ukuthi uPius aphule amalungelo oquqaba olungenacala - just because he's vocal against iNja. That's why you can't stomach my guts. That's why this website is an extension of the oppressive regime yoMgodoyi.

I don't want to delve much on Pius' innocence or guiltyness of the crimes he alleged to have committed, but on passing i would like to encourage caution, impartiality and afford the legal process to take its course. Noone who is clear and rigour in his thinking processes would ever charge and judge Pius without allowing him to defend himself. Anyone who ignores the political implications of the whole saga is not worth taking seriously.

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Now I'm undone. I hate being controlled & my thoughts being muzzled. That's why nginga hlali KwaMgodoyi. I say: if you people feel I'm not adding any value by contributing in this forum - just tell me. If you feel ukuthi ngiyiphela ezindlebeni zenu, indlavini - a goon, then ngitsheleni. And being the proud Shamase Nkwali yenkosi I am, I'll quit. Quit for good. Never to come back. And this website will be a much better place. It'll deteriorate into the mutual admiration society you seem hell bent on turning it into (as the great Jazi once said).



I believe that in an incremental way, like many other forumites, that your debates and contributions indeed do add value and i do personally appreciate them.

Otherwise if you were not impervious to suggestions and advice i believe that you were going to be a much better person by now, many people have suggested to you to tone down your language. I do not understand why you opted for this kind of approach and still believe that people will take your ideas seriously.


Edited by Madlenya (09/18/07 10:09 AM)

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#34826 - 09/18/07 11:49 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Madlenya]
MTHIMBALI Offline
Ngqwele
*****

Registered: 03/26/04
Posts: 119
Loc: ENGLAND
abantu ababhala izibozi bahlala becabanga ukuthi abantu bayabazonda ,kodwa ngeqiniso u can not impose yo thoughts on the people.ubani lobani ulemvumo yokubhala noma yini ,lanxa okunye kukhanya ukuthi yizibozi nje.ofuna ukusuka kahambe njalo ingaboni isidingo sokuthi umuntu aze amemezele ngaphambilini as if nxa yena engaphuma kuzaba yikuphela kwale nkundla.elami lithi hamba nxa usudidekile mnuzane .feel free to do what u want.

yimi iyouth yalana?

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#34831 - 09/19/07 07:41 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: MTHIMBALI]
Muntongenakudla Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 649
Loc: Mtubatuba
Bantu boMgodoyi

You have obviously lost all sense of objectivity and do not see that all my posts should be regarded in the light of their substance rather than their form ? the context in which some goons continue to use to judge me.

Truth is, those that find it fair to continue to direct attacks at me are testament to their hatred of people who have confidence to speak the truth. I will not be intimidated or stifled. Yes this is a private forum, one which is not owned by any of the regular contributors, but my argument is that, given the public nature of services it provides, there is implicit in its role, a responsibility to give fair representation of a diversity of opinions. If my postings are censored, this defeats the whole philosophy of creating a melting pot of a plethora of thoughts.

I have always thrived on free, uninhibited thinking & telling it as it is ? in a no holds barred fashion. No one must & will tell me what & how I must say anything I wanna say. I won?t allow that. I?ve never sought to gag anyone on this forum or dictated the presentation style kubona. I have had to grop (ukudukuza) through in pain to make some sense of some simpletons? postings. Having bitten such bullets, I do not take kindly to anyone seeking to muzzle my thoughts ? angitshene ukuthi mangicabange kanjani, ngibhale kanjani. I have never, am not & shall not seek to please anyone uma ngibhala la. I won?t tell anyone what they wanna hear. I will continue giving dry beans as they are ? pure unadulterated original thoughts zoShamase, presented with fire & ice - to chill your spines & heat you under the collar.

And I?ve got simple advice for all those who have no guts & spine to stand what I write: just ignore my postings. They?re obviously not for your consumption as you?re just too timid & meek. The kitchen is too hot for you ? so just get out.

I also make a promise that for as long as ngikule website, I?ll play fair. Uma kuxoxwa ngomoya opholile, awu nami ngolizwa lelo bika, ebese ngisho ngezwi eliphansi kuze kuthi cosololo. However, if I?m insulted, I?ll fight back. If ngiphonselwa inyoka ? mina ngolahlela nge-anaconda straight in the face yaloyo feleba oza ngama gangangozi. I won?t allow anyone to walk all over me ? angizukufa ngithulile kuhle kwesi klabhu!

For as long as izicukuthwane zala esigungwini zingangi xoshanga, labo abangi zondayo will just have to live with my rigorous debates. I?ll speak the truth & shame those oppressors that seek ukubhebhethekisa amanga abo emphakathini. I hate lies. I love the truth.The road of truth is long & lonely. But I?ll walk it. I won?t win any friends in this site coz quite frankly, I?m not here to make friends.

Ngenelisekile ngalabo abangani enginabo.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
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uShamase wangempela!
Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga!
Igcokama likaNdonga.
Isishwapha sikaSomkhele.
Yangcol' into ngayintshinga - bayicosha abafokazana!
Futheka mnyekefuli.
Ngiwuphula ngamabomu umoya wakho - yilento ekubulalayo!

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#34833 - 09/19/07 08:27 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
Muthwa Ncube Offline

S'phathamandla
Sakhamuzi

Registered: 12/02/03
Posts: 50
Loc: London

Freedom of speech does not in any way equate to the absense of rules.

http://www.inkundla.net/ubbthreads7olde/ubbthreads.php/ubb/newuser
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#34834 - 09/19/07 10:12 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
Madlenya Offline
Ngqwele

Registered: 01/19/05
Posts: 195
Loc: KwelikaMjoji
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I have always thrived on free, uninhibited thinking & telling it as it is ? in a no holds barred fashion. No one must & will tell me what & how I must say anything I wanna say. I won?t allow that. I?ve never sought to gag anyone on this forum or dictated the presentation style kubona. I have had to grop (ukudukuza) through in pain to make some sense of some simpletons? postings. Having bitten such bullets, I do not take kindly to anyone seeking to muzzle my thoughts ? angitshene ukuthi mangicabange kanjani, ngibhale kanjani. I have never, am not & shall not seek to please anyone uma ngibhala la. I won?t tell anyone what they wanna hear. I will continue giving dry beans as they are ? pure unadulterated original thoughts zoShamase, presented with fire & ice - to chill your spines & heat you under the collar.

Alright my man, you have said what you want to say and you have cleared the air, now let the battles begin. You must not run to the Moderate ukuyoceba. You are immune to reason or to honest advice, take it negatively even if not necessary to do so, therefore let your obduracy be your downfall. You want to portray yourself as lone voice, a voice of reason, the only one who stands for what is just and right, but the evidence on the ground contradicts your assertion, you thrive on controverse, belittling other people and being boastful.

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#34836 - 09/19/07 10:38 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Madlenya]
Muntongenakudla Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 649
Loc: Mtubatuba
Madlenya

Promise you, I will never be seen scurring for cover, running to the moderators ukuyo ceba, as you put it. Cha.

History has shown that, in as far as there are skirmishes involving me, ama moderators are plain biased. Ngolwakithi KwelikaMthaniya sithi: bachemile. Bachemele ohlangothini lwalabo abangizondayo. Kusukela ngo 2004, ngihlezi ngithukwa kungenziwa lutho laph' esigungwini. Numerous forumites flout the rules that they agreed to abide by upon joining - kepha abenziwa lutho. Kuhle uma bethi flout them bethuka uSathane oyimina? That's unfair. Ngithukwa nje, isono sami wukuthi ngikhuluma iqiniso nje vo. Ngikhuluma iqiniso elihlukumeza imimoya yalabo abagodle amanga, abakhonze ukukhefuzwa ko hubhu kabhejane. Cha ngeke madoda.

Don't you ever shed no tears for umntaka Nkwali. I have lost faith in the fairness of the moderators. Consequently, I fight my own wars. To quote Shakespeare in King Lear, "I'm a man more sinned against than sinning" laph' esigungwini. I've learnt to look after myself laph' ekhaya. I fight back any aggressor. Kusukela ngo 2004 I've gone toe to toe with countless goons laph' esigungwini, bobbed & weaved, gave them an eye splitting jab, connected with an over arm right, left hook & knocked them all out. I'm always the last man standing in any fight, the creme de la creme (as Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather Jnr, my favourite & Pound For Pound best boxer in the world says).

All roads pass through Muntongenakudla.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
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uShamase wangempela!
Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga!
Igcokama likaNdonga.
Isishwapha sikaSomkhele.
Yangcol' into ngayintshinga - bayicosha abafokazana!
Futheka mnyekefuli.
Ngiwuphula ngamabomu umoya wakho - yilento ekubulalayo!

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#34861 - 09/21/07 04:47 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Ginyambila]
Ginyambila Offline
Mafikizolo
*****

Registered: 09/03/03
Posts: 36
Loc: Bulawayo

Phendula umbuzo wami phela Nkwali kaMgodoyi.

Originally Posted By: Ginyambila

As a matter of interest Muntuongelakudla, akusitshele imicabango yakho ngoJacob Zuma.
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#34863 - 09/21/07 11:37 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Ginyambila]
ntombankala Offline
Sikhulu

Registered: 11/06/02
Posts: 205
Loc: Zimbabwe
Angithandabuzi ke ukuthi uMuntongenakudla strongly feels "betrayed" by Pius. He / she has a right to feel that way. Kagodlana luhto ke yena and must be a perfectionist. I fully support his/her view.

Some, who had pinned their hopes on Pius feel he is a victim of Mgodoyi's machinations, they could be right but also wrong. Sesiyibambe ngekhanda. Let us wait. Kungani sibengulana njengezinkomo ezilwayo? Sonke asinalo iqiniso loPius kodwa sonke sikhulumisa okwabantu abanalo. But those that "support" Pius should never be blind to the values and virtues that uMuntu is championing...Pius aside. Ngigcizelela ekutheni naye uMuntu (name is too long) kanalo ke iqiniso. Kodwa ngeke size siye nganxanye njengamanzi. This site will be dead boring. Ibambe Muntu...ibambe ungadikibali. Someone used to say that hear!!!

Mina ngithi whether uPius wadlu mlenze walo mama, no Zuma wadla lezo mali...ngiyabasekela kuphela. Akukhathalekile ukuthi bathini abanye ngoba ngizi duduza ngokuthi akekho ongcwele!!

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#34876 - 09/23/07 04:43 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: ntombankala]
Zwangendaba Offline
Nkosi
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Registered: 04/27/03
Posts: 1399
Loc: New York, New York, USA
Bafowethu.

I want to vent my anger out on Muntu. Please zihlobo bear with me. He is the one who always starts insulting others and cries like a baby when he is hit back, chicken heart.

Ende ungazondi mfana ngoba lapha ngikukhuza okwesintu, I dont care ukuthi uyasinanza loba qha isintu. Shut up and listen. Akula muntu okuzondayo lapha. Bonke abantu bathi thoba umlomo. Wadla amagundane na??? sis! Mihla layizolo you belittle other people. Put in educated DEBATES not slanderous ARGUMENTS.

Someone in a posting said, "if you are just arguing to add on to the contribution, NO NKINGA, BUT I WILL NEVER TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY THEREAFTER."

I want to be able to take you seriously ALWAYS.

Haaaghhh, wena mfana, MUNTUONGELAKUDLA, SHAMASE aka NZARAYAPENGA, NKWALI YO-MSHOZA, hk hk hk hk, amabizo aze anombelana nje, kwenzenjani kanti?

THOBA UMLOMO IS THE ONLY MESSAGE.

Li Zwangendaba.

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#34882 - 09/23/07 11:00 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Zwangendaba]
mzukulu-kagogo Offline
Ngqwele

Registered: 06/17/05
Posts: 113
Loc: eMajawundeni
Muntu

mayuyu bo!kanti wababuhlungu kangaka ngesenzo sikaPius kutheni kanti?u have every right to write about anything on this forum but mana bo!! remove emotions from yo postings so that i can take you serious and continue reading.be it you expose credible ideas your diction is crude.now you have gone to the point of calling us BANTU BAKOMGODOYI,sewuyahlambaza ke,just because we think you are too tough on Pius.as for me what Ncube did doesnt bother me one bit,that was his choice and the accomplice ,if l may call them that,they consented ukudla isono(if ever its true that it happened).
your postings kind of show some betrayal ,maybe you trusted him too much.whatever he did nowhere equates what the Bambazonke cronies did and still do,may you chill please.if only these findings were revealed by none other than ZANU maybe l would judge,condemn his doing but as for now i have more serious things to be angry and feel betrayed about.yehlisa ulaka kanti olwakho alwehli lunjani

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#34892 - 09/25/07 06:23 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: mzukulu-kagogo]
Muntongenakudla Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 649
Loc: Mtubatuba
Bantu bakaMgodoyi

Sekuya caca ukuthi nonke nihlangene ngami la. Nihlanganyele ngegama lami. Sengaphenduka udikwayo wenu. Uhlanjalazwayo. Ugxekwayo. Wonke ulopholo blames me laph' esigungwini.

There was a time when I took a long break (from May 2005 to May 2007). I was silent, nginga hlangene nezinto zezwe lenu leNja. Kepha, the likes of Zwangendaba were writing me private messages, asking me to come back. Nami ngathinteka enhliziyweni, ngithi cha abafowethu bayangi dinga esigungwini. My foot - bengidinga to insult me & call me names!! What's this Nzarayapenga claptrap? Bengi dinga to seek to control my thinking & dictate to me how I must write!

I strongly disagree. Malivezwe iqiniso. If ninga ngifuni bantu beNja, tell me. I'll quit for ever. Never to come back. I'm a proud man. Ubaba waze wakhothama engazange abe yisi nqibi. Ngifung' amaNkwali.

I gain nothing by writing in this site. Absolutely zilch.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
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uShamase wangempela!
Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga!
Igcokama likaNdonga.
Isishwapha sikaSomkhele.
Yangcol' into ngayintshinga - bayicosha abafokazana!
Futheka mnyekefuli.
Ngiwuphula ngamabomu umoya wakho - yilento ekubulalayo!

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#34893 - 09/25/07 06:44 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
Gaselomhle Offline
Ndunankulu
*****

Registered: 08/25/05
Posts: 517
Loc: Buqamama
Muntongenakudla,
Akulamuntu okuzondayo lapha esigungwini, the message is yo language is offensive. Examples: Uma uthi "Bantu bakaMg*d*y!" uyahlambaza, uma usithi bonke abesintwana bako Mthwakazi ngama "goon", "gwivi" "izindlavini" uyathuka. Otherwise no one wants to influence yo thots nor convert yu to their subject.
Okunye yo common sense should tell yu ukuthi it is impossible for persons participating enkundleni to all agree to hate yu. Wat's so special about yu, surely yu over rate yo self, Yu think we can stoop that low. Present yo hard facts as they are Muntongenakudla without icing them ngenhlamba, For yo own information these pple obabuka sengathi they are all against yu have diverse opinions over issues being discussed lapha enkundleni, and some even share yo line of thot, the difference is yo language. Thoba ulimi lwakho.
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#34895 - 09/25/07 10:14 AM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
Madlenya Offline
Ngqwele

Registered: 01/19/05
Posts: 195
Loc: KwelikaMjoji
Quote:
Bantu bakaMgodoyi

Gawula ubheka ndoda, bengithi ngiyishaya indiva lendaba yakho yokusibiza abantu bakaMgodoyi kodwa sengathi uyaqhubeka ngayo. Yikho ngiyacela ukuthi uyiyeke, sikhulumisane ngokuhloniphana.

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Sekuya caca ukuthi noke nihlangene ngami la. Nihlanganyele ngegama lami. Sengaphenduka udikwayo wenu. Uhlanjalazwayo. Ugxekwayo. Wonke ulopholo blames me laph' esigungwini.

Hhawu ndoda okunye obokhuluma ubuye uziphendule, kungenzeka kanjani ukuthi abantu bonke abalapha esigungwini bakuhlanganyele, bengakwazi njalo nabo bengazani? Eqinisweni yikuthi ukwesaba kwengqondo kusuke kwezne umuntu abone izitha ezimlalele unyendle njalo zihlanganisa amatulo okumenzakalisa. Kuhle ukubuyekeza nsizwa yakithi, ubhale ungakhohlwa ukubuya ubhekisise isimo, njalo ungakhohlwa ukuzititinya ukuze ubenesiqiniseko sokuthi usesendleleni eqondile, kolukhu angichazi ukuthi ayiqondile eyakho, kodwa kungani usuchabanga ukuthi wena usungudikwayo lapha ekhaya. Abantu bakugxeka ngokwakha (constructive criticism) mnumzane, kodwa ubukeka sengathi uwugwadule olungamili tshani.

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There was a time when I took a long break (from May 2005 to May 2007). I was silent, nginga hlangene nezinto zezwe lenu leNja. Kepha, the likes of Zwangendaba were writing me private messages, asking me to come back. Nami ngathinteka enhliziyweni, ngithi cha abafowethu bayangi dinga esigungwini. My foot - bengidinga to insult me & call me names!! What's this Nzarayapenga claptrap? Bengi dinga to seek to control my thinking & dictate to me how I must write!

Benza into enhle kakhulu ukuthi bakubhalele ngasese bekucela ukuthi uze njalo lapha esigungwini, nami lona luqobo lwami ukube ngalithola ithuba bengizokubhalela ngikuncenge ukuthi uphenduke. Angazi ke ukuthi bona ezabo izizathu beziyiziphi kodwa ezami zincike endleleni obhala ngayo ulimi (your eloquence) minus amagama athize anganambitheki emibhalweni yakho. I have met people and debated with many in different foras but you are one of the best when it comes to writting eloquent articles. Whether you decide to eventually go, you must no that that is your character trait or capability that i will always miss.

Noone is gagging you, i believe that many people here do restrain themselves when reading your contributions, if they had to retaliate and use your language against you i believe that this forum would turn into a bhawa.

Muntu ungumfowethu noma uyafuna noma awufuni, kuyohlala kunjalo, uyabona uma uthi wathinteka enhliziyweni lapho abafowethu bekuthinta ngasese bekucela ukuthi uze njalo, lokho uthi kwabonisa ukuthi siyakudinga, kuliqiniso lelo mfowethu siyakudinga, noma nje kwesinye isikhathi usuke usithethise njalo usibukele phansi sengathi asisibona bantu. Angijabuli ngensizwa eyenyeza ezinye izinsizwa.

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I strongly disagree. Malivezwe iqiniso. If ninga ngifuni bantu beNja, tell me. I'll quit for ever. Never to come back. I'm a proud man. Ubaba waze wakhothama engazange abe yisi nqibi. Ngifung' amaNkwali.

I gain nothing by writing in this site. Absolutely zilch.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

On the contrary, we gain a lot by your presence here. We have no right to tell you to leave or to stay, it is your right to make that decision. If you feel that it is too hot here and you decide to go we will not stand on your way, but if you think it is too hot but worth fighting for your space we will also not chase you away, but you must brace yourself, because people will not let you shhit on their heads nilly willy like that.


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#34902 - 09/25/07 02:55 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Madlenya]
Muntongenakudla Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 649
Loc: Mtubatuba
Bantu base zweni lobubha

I guess that's a better term. Noma nje kimina kuyi mfanayo.

Manene namanenekazi, kuyacaca ukuthi wonke umuntu akangi ncanywa la. Ngingu nyama nambana. Nginogazi ka-fish, okwasho intombi yami yakudala, eyangale kwesika Hlongwane (Bergville). The evidence is clear. Kusukela ngo 2004 when I joined, I have been insulted by so many thugs laph' esigungwini. No one condemns them. The sick thing is that, uma kuthukwa mina, kuthiwa include my family as well. Phela uma umuntu ekubiza igama lento ongeyona, kusuke ethuka abazali bakho, izinyanya zakho kunye nokhokho imbala.

Angikaze ngizwe abantu begxeka amakhehla amadala afana njengo Zwangendaba uma engibiza amagama: sick & stupid names like Nzarayapenga, bekhuluma ukusangana bethi ngingumShoza bla blah - unbalanced & ridiculous garbage like that. OZwangendaba abagxekwa ngoba they're sacred cows, the aristocrats of this website, the untouchables, the alpha and omega.

The likes of Omnyama insult me personally. To quote their sick writings, bathi I'm a wasted sperm & egg. For the life of me, I can't fathom how sick a creature can be to write such hogwash in a public forum like this. Maybe it's a mental deficiency, disorder, diseased mind or something like that. Or worse still, it must be putting into perspective leyo misebenzi abayenza overseas, beshidaba izaguga. Phela if uhlala e-toilet, awenyanyeki amanyala kuwena. Again, none condemns such rubbish. The moderators fold their hands. Because it's directed at inkwali yenkosi.

Gaselomhle says I must take amaphilisi okusangana komqondo. Amaphilisi engiwa nikezwe uyena na? Uma enga hlanyi yena, pho wazi kanjani nge treatment enikezwa abasangene imiqondo? Again none condemns such rubbish.

I'm a clean man. I challenge anyone of you to point out a gross, point blank & direct insult I have ever directed at anyone on this website. One thing is certain, mina when I take the fight to anyone's doorstep, I don't throw punches below the below. I don't sink to the levels of ukuthuka 9 9. Ngiku tubatuba nje ngamagama athe phecelezi, ebese ngiyaku shiya unjalo.

History has proven that all the editors & moderators of this site are plain biased. I don't take them seriously. Not that they deserve to be taken seriously in the first place. Their deeds or misdeeds speak for themselves. They turn a blind eye uma kuthukwa certain people & hasten to warn uma kuwukuthi labo bantu are fighting back. For example, Jazelindizayo has been grossly insulted since 2003 by goons of different stripes & none of you clowns & pretenders ever condemn these thugs. Isono sakhe uJazi is that he speaks his mind & doesn't tell you what you wanna hear. Credit to him that he's never been intimidated or stifled.

Ngibuye ngisho kinina ngithi: mina ngizalwa yizinsizwa kwaMkhwanazi. If ever anyone of you thinks ukuthi they can walk all over me, then they have something coming their way. Ababuzanga elangeni. Angizukufa ngithulile kuhle kwesi klabhu. Ek sal slan trek, okwash' amaBhunu!!

Ngempela, ek sal slan trek.

Sengishilo mina Shamase wangale ngaphesheya koThukela.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
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#35009 - 10/05/07 04:25 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Inkosi uMzilikazi ka Mashobane]
ozithembayo Offline
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Registered: 09/21/05
Posts: 109
Loc: emhlabeni
Ngetechnology esikhona kulezinsuku, umuntu uyambumba nje uhlanganise imfanekiso ubusuwenza wenze konke nje okufunayo. Ungathatha ubuso bukaPius ubufake endodeni enye nje isenza lomsebenzi. Futhi kungenzeka ukuthi lapha kwathathwa ibedroom kaPius laye, kwathathwa uSibanda lo lonkosikazi wakhe bezikholisela. Besekufakwa phezu kombeda kaPius. Uyaphambana nxa ungakwazi, ngoba sibili uyabuzibona, futhi kusendlini yakho, embedeni wakho, ukhanya uzidlela!
Kulezinsuku kulowakhe uMugabe obhodayo kumbe selike lawubona. Ufake iwigi elele embedeni, kodwa umzimba ngowomfazi. Isihloko sithi "The woman Pius banged". So yintwencane le, nxa igqwetha lakhe lingakwazi lokhu kuzadanisa.
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#35010 - 10/05/07 04:49 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Muntongenakudla]
ozithembayo Offline
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Registered: 09/21/05
Posts: 109
Loc: emhlabeni
Ha wena muntu!! Kanti angithi usanda kuthi abantu bangatsholutho ngendabale ngoba isemthethwandaba? Ufuna ukubanguwe wedwa ocabangayo. Uyadaka mani. UPius resigned out of principle, njengoba wena ungelawo amaprinciples you wouldn't understand this.
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#35012 - 10/06/07 09:27 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: ozithembayo]
omnyama Offline
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Registered: 06/21/07
Posts: 97
Loc: banana republic
Ozithembayo,
Makelibone imizamo enziwayo ngama CIO !!!
http://www.indabanews.com/indaba0029.php

omnyama

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#35175 - 10/25/07 03:31 PM Re: Mfundisi Pius Ncube Kambeeeeee??? [Re: Mabila]
lungani Offline
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Registered: 08/13/07
Posts: 61
Loc: Broomall PA USA
To Muntongenakudla. Why does it seem you hate uMthwakazi more than you hate uMgaxa? Akungitshele wena Munto, and what are your suggestions. I would also want you to tell us what you've done for our people? Kangilwi lawe mina, ngiyabuza kuphela.
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