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#35716 - 01/11/08 03:12 AM Re: Shonalizing uMthwakazi [Re: Babugagashi]
Siphepheli Offline
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Deja vu! Sike sahinahinana layo le indaba saphetha sivumelene ukuthi it's too late now to try and work labetshabi. Savumelana ukuthi okungasiza yikuthi kwahlukanwe ngokuthula.

Le eyokusebenzelana labo yi idealism engasancedi lutho. Sebasitshengisa abetshabi ukuthi asilalo ilungelo lokusebenzelana labo. Umntwana wenyoka yinyoka.

Abetshabi nxa sisitsha bona besemqandweni abasinaki. Basinaka nxa labo sebephoselwe ebhodweni. Mina ngithi itshabi litshabi noma lilunge kangakanani ngobana nxa sekukapulwa bayasikhohlwa basikhumbule nxa sonke sesilamba.
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#35719 - 01/11/08 08:51 AM Re: Shonalizing uMthwakazi [Re: Babugagashi]
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Originally Posted By: Babugagashi
Basincedangani oJonathan labo Nkomo, labo Dabengwa?


Labo ke gabantu abalengqondo lemicabango efana xathu leyakho.
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#35725 - 01/11/08 11:29 PM Re: Shonalizing uMthwakazi [Re: Siphepheli]
Babugagashi Offline
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Registered: 09/11/07
Posts: 48
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Originally Posted By: Siphepheli
Deja vu! Sike sahinahinana layo le indaba saphetha sivumelene ukuthi it's too late now to try and work labetshabi. Savumelana ukuthi okungasiza yikuthi kwahlukanwe ngokuthula.
Le eyokusebenzelana labo yi idealism engasancedi lutho.


Kuyezwakala Siphepheli, hatshi bengingazi ukuthi lendaba selake lahinahinana layo lacina livumelene lokhu elakuvumelanayo. Sizophinda siyibonisane njalo lendaba in the very near future when sanity has finally prevailed and reality sunk in and we realize ukuthi iphupho leli kumbe labuya lobani elokhuthi there will ever be an independent thing called "Mthwakazi" state (or nation, to make it cute)kweleZimbabwe is, was, and will always be just mere hallucination. It is as impossible as thinking that Murape Murape will one day be FIFA World Player of the Year, or(to bring the point closer to home)thinking that Willard Mashinkila Khumalo will one day coach the mighty Manchester United or better still, Stoke City.

As long as i action esiyithathayo maNdebele amahle iphelela ku Inkundla kuphela and kuyingqondo yokudabula iZimbabwe phakathi, ngiqinisile, ngiqinisile ngithi kini, liphinde likhohlwe.
Sizabuzana kusasa uma silokhu siphila.

Mpelaviki enhle bantu bakithi

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#35728 - 01/12/08 12:36 AM Re: Shonalizing uMthwakazi [Re: Babugagashi]
Siphepheli Offline
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Originally Posted By: Babugagashi
Sizophinda siyibonisane njalo lendaba in the very near future when sanity has finally prevailed and reality sunk in and we realize ukuthi iphupho leli


Ukuphupha kuvunyelwe mnakwethu. Abanengi abaphumeleleyo baqala bephupha, kancane kancane baze baphumelela. Mina ngithi asingabavaleli abaziphuphelayo ikakhulu nxa lawo maphupho abo engesiwo maphupho abawaphupha besihinahina kumbe besihlinza. Nxa kuyikuthi baziphuphela bethola uzibuse wabo, hawu yeka umkhumbulo omhle. Akekho ongafuni inkululeko, mnakwethu. I'reality' is a phenomenon that can be built from the said dreams, as such one cannot really stop anyone dreaming their dreams to reality.


Originally Posted By: Babugagashi
kumbe labuya lobani elokhuthi there will ever be an independent thing called "Mthwakazi" state (or nation, to make it cute)kweleZimbabwe is,was, and will always be just mere hallucination.


UMthwakazi awulamnikazi. Wonke lowonkana uvunyelwe koMthwakazi. Ukuba nguMthwakazi kumele kuvele enhliziyweni yalowo ofuna ukuba identified and be identifiable as uMthwakazi. It is not an academic thing. Kungumzwangedwa okuyinto kwakhona. As such, one cannot be seen to determine the limits and extent of imizwangedwa yomunye umuntu. Nxa singafuni ukufanana lomkhenkethe weZimbargo kuzamela sihlehlele emuva siyekele abalephupho likaMthwakazi beziphuphele.

UMthwakazi uvele akekho eZimbargo, uzimele yedwa laphaya. Olamehlo uyambona olendlebe uyazizwela.

Originally Posted By: Babugagashi
It is as impossible as thinking that Murape Murape will one day be FIFA World Player of the Year, or(to bring the point closer to home)thinking that Willard Mashinkila Khumalo will one day coach the mighty Manchester United or better still, Stoke City.


Lo umzekeliso wakho seems to me a too simplistic one, mnakwethu. Abantu obasebenzisa lapha are well past their prime or should we say their sell-by-date. Umthwakazi is a living dream ebantwini bakaMthwakazi. This dream is like a relay race. The current agitators are ready and willing to hand the baton to the next generation who would do everything at their disposal to carry or have the torch carried on iphupho lize libe lidwala. It might or might not happen tomorrow, next year, next decade but rest assured the seed has been put in the ground. Whatever time it takes. Umthwakazi awusuye webhonyaponya, ithalaza, ephela masinyane ukwenzela ukuthi ungakhandwa ngabantu. It is a simmering pot, imbiza yamagwadla. Izavuthwa kuphela.

Originally Posted By: Babugagashi
As long as i action esiyithathayo maNdebele amahle iphelela ku Inkundla kuphela and kuyingqondo yokudabula iZimbabwe phakathi, ngiqinisile, ngiqinisile ngithi kini, liphinde likhohlwe.
Sizabuzana kusasa uma silokhu siphila.

Mpelaviki enhle bantu bakithi


Kudala abazimiseleyo njengami saphuma lapha. Time to time siyaphenduka nje sizobona abasaseleyo sizama lokukhombisa abazimiseleyo ukuthi basijoyine. Akula mkhuba ukuza lapha lokuphatheka ezingxoxweni ezikulesigungu. Anyone and everybody is free to come in here and discuss anything as long as it does not infringe amalungelo abanye.

Wozani zihlobo siguqule iphupho into reality. The dream can not make itself reality, it needs, you me and all of us.

Ayihlome bakwethu.
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#35730 - 01/12/08 02:04 PM Re: Shonalizing uMthwakazi [Re: Babugagashi]
Sibambamahawu Offline
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Kuyezwakala Siphepheli, hatshi bengingazi ukuthi lendaba selake lahinahinana layo lacina livumelene lokhu elakuvumelanayo. Sizophinda siyibonisane njalo lendaba in the very near future when sanity has finally prevailed and reality sunk in and we realize ukuthi iphupho leli kumbe labuya lobani elokhuthi there will ever be an independent thing called "Mthwakazi" state (or nation, to make it cute)kweleZimbabwe is, was, and will always be just mere hallucination. It is as impossible as thinking that Murape Murape will one day be FIFA World Player of the Year, or(to bring the point closer to home)thinking that Willard Mashinkila Khumalo will one day coach the mighty Manchester United or better still, Stoke City.

As long as i action esiyithathayo maNdebele amahle iphelela ku Inkundla kuphela and kuyingqondo yokudabula iZimbabwe phakathi, ngiqinisile, ngiqinisile ngithi kini, liphinde likhohlwe.
Sizabuzana kusasa uma silokhu siphila.

Mpelaviki enhle bantu bakithi


Mr Babagagashi, i think you deliberately undermine people's resolve in turning this cause into a reality, this might be bacuse you don't know what efforts have been made and are still being done to formalise our struggle. Some of us live for nothing except the total liberation of Mthwakazi from Shona bondage. I will give my soul, my mind and life for the liberation of Mthwakazi. I for one prefers that this struggle be peaceful one and no blood spilt but the reality on the ground points to something different, therefore come what may we will never go back, we will never be disillusioned by the hurdles on our way. We have met many and we are removing one by one, our zeal and dtermination is unstoppable.
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