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#36345 - 02/22/08 12:38 AM Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game [Re: soweto]
abafokazi Offline
Ngqwele

Registered: 07/15/03
Posts: 117
Loc: Luton, england
First of all Muntuenganakudla uyakwazi na ukuthi mthwakazi kutshoni. Mthwakazi does not mean Ndebeles only. If you understand this then thats cleared out of the way.

There is something that you have got to know and its that thina as the so called "minority", i mean the ndebeles we have always tried by all means to be on the right end of the stick. We have fought for freedom, peace and justice. Where else wena ndoda you spend much of the time judging us and that means you dont get to see the good qualities that we have. We try to come up with meaningful discussions but you dont seem to understand what we try to achieve by these discussion.

Why spend all these time criticising us, dont put blinkers on us, dont limit us, i for one know that the sky is the limit fo mthwakazi. Look at the people that you speak highly of, they voted Mugabe, happiness was all over them when he killed people from Matebaland using gukurahundi, and the other thing is 'where were you when there was Ntumbane@, lots of people did die you know. Tell me what has this lead to, it lead to this power hungry zanu govt having full control of everything, and when i say everything this means I'm trying to get you to remember that that they had already brought fear on our people by the use of gukurahundi, ntumbane and etc, this means that the mthwakazi were very opressed and this made it difficult for them elevate educationally and all the top jobs were filled by the shonas while some of our people escaped into the neighbouring SA and yet here you come and tell me ukuthi asifundanga.

Now look, it has taken shonas this long to realise that mugabe has not been ruling this country well, they now escape to SA as well does it means abafundanga labo khathesi yini na ( are they dull), if you look at it they are now so keen to vote umgabe out,

Please tell what are they thinking now. Have they just realised that we have been on the right path for all along, and that this guy (mgabe) has not been a good leader

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#36352 - 02/22/08 08:27 AM Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game [Re: abafokazi]
Muntongenakudla Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 649
Loc: Mtubatuba
Abafokazi

My oh my, you?ve lost it yet again. There?s absolutely no need for you to heap kimina all the blame for your alleged Mthwakazians? sordid state. Mina kaNdonga am only an independent commentator, on a crusade yoku pheza idimoni lamanga eli gasele usapho lwenu kulesi sigungu. Akukh? okunye. If you?re looking for a scapegoat, just turn your head elsewhere ? but as I said: one is not a failure until they start blaming it on others.

Issue is, no one has had the audacity to come up with plausible evidence of the empty allegations of favouritism in admissions into the tertiary institutions zase zweni lenu. I therefore take it that yonke le nyovanyova is a lie peddled by those with sour grapes. Those dullards who could not make it to university KwaM-g-o-t-s because they were stupid, incapable & plain not-good-enough.

Ithi ngiku tshene indaba ungayi buzanga. This will serve as a microcosm of isifo esimbi sabantu boMthwakazi wansondo.

Reminds me of impintshi yam? evuth? ekhaleni - uMqabuleshesha wakwaMtimande. Now uMqabuleshesha lona tells me of this other naturally dull boy from esikoleni, kudala le KwaM-go. Uthi ene lo mphuphe womfana came from a rural place called eBhekeni ? never been to town in all his life. Igama lalo mfana ngu Brian Ngwenya. He was a dunderhead ?isinxadi, hopelessly dull, dirty boy, edonsa nzima ? edonsa ngo diesel esikoleni. He was always stinking, enga gezi, esaba nje into ebizwa ngamanzi - ethi ene kwazalela ingwenya kulawo manzi: yingakho uyayi hlonipha ingwenya kuhle kwesi bongo sakhe. He was so dirty, ehlala egxaza amafinyila (amakhovula). Kwaya, kwaya, as expected of a dunderhead, he flopped kwi preliminary stages: O?level. Frustrated and doomed KwaM-g-o-t-s, he joined the exodus to Ngilandi, masquerading, as they always do, njenge political refugee.

Efika eNgilandi bandla, the dunderhead boy, as expected ? went into these peripheral professions, befitting his small, dull head. Awu, wakilina izalukazi here & there, kwaya nangu eseba yi male nurse ? having trained in some backstreet nursing college. Awu bandla, nanso ke i-dullard isihola okuyi Pondo kwamaNgisi, isiya kwazi nokugeza ? isiya qala ukubonabona. All of a sudden, uswayini usebona sengathi he?s clever. Nango ezenza a politically astute man. He becomes a pseudo expert in matters M-g-o-t-s political. He blames all his failures le emuva Kwa-M-go-t-s on amaShona. Uthi ene, he was never given a chance to go to varsity blah, blah. Amanga aluhlaza cwe.

These are the kind of sentiments by dull boys like Brian Ngwenya that make me sick. He is basically trivialising all the intelligent men & women who deservedly went through university KwaM-g-o-t-s. By questioning the admission criteria, he is attempting to discredit the qualifications zalabo bantu.

Unfortunately, there are many of the likes of Brian Ngwenya in this forum. Isifo sabo samanga nomhobholo has become a shield & smokescreen to hide their shortcomings emphakathini. They want to blame ubu phukuphuku babo on amaShona. Very sad low lives.

Umbuzo wami bese uba wukuthi: granted the likes of Brian Ngwenya were denied opportunities to go to varsity kwaM-g-o, how come they?re still doing menial jobs like ukukilina izalukazi ne nursing eNgilandi? Why are they not going into Cambridge & Oxford? Are the Shonas still blocking their paths eNgilandi? I?d rather they take this mumbo-jumbo elsewhere coz I aint buying it.

Interestingly, those very guys who went into varsity KwaM-g-o-t-s, are Masters? & PhD graduates khonale eNgilandi & many other countries.

The likes of Brian Ngwenya are failures. They blame others for their own fate.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
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Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga!
Igcokama likaNdonga.
Isishwapha sikaSomkhele.
Yangcol' into ngayintshinga - bayicosha abafokazana!
Futheka mnyekefuli.
Ngiwuphula ngamabomu umoya wakho - yilento ekubulalayo!

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#36353 - 02/22/08 09:26 AM Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game [Re: Muntongenakudla]
Sibambamahawu Offline
Ndunankulu
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Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 803
Loc: KwaGodlwayo
Zulu kaNdaba

Some people do naively believe in research evidence as biblical truths. What they do not realise is that research is never nuetral, it is never value-free, it is indeed political. No matter which methodology you chose, it will never be purely scientific, it will be influenced by your ideologies your processes and methods of gathering data.
We know our Mthwakazi situation, we don't need prophets of doom descending from kwelikaMthaniya to tell us how we are treated in Zimbabwwe.
These very psuedo-prophets if you give them evidence that has been compiled by Mthwakazians, they will jump and accuse you of using partisan evidence, but if you use some kind of evidence from the Northerners our erstwhile friends, they will jump up and down and congratulate you for hanging yourself.
Mthwakazi we must never accept to be held back because of these people who think they are all knowing and should therefore prescribe how we should run our affairs.

Some people will die from and of umona and inferiority complex. How many Mthwakazians, whose chances were deliberately thwarted in Zimbabwe, who have completed Masters and PhD Degrees in foreign lands?
Those who feel inferior and threatened by those in foreign lands will worry themselves and deride those in foreign lands, who are trying to better themselves.
Whatever kind of occupations and professions we have chosen its our choice and our right to do so.
Jealousy and bigotry will kill other people i tell you.
But to assure those who are insecure, i would like to tell them that there is nothing special about those overseas, they are still people like you, they respect you and they deserve to be respected as well.


Edited by Sibambamahawu (02/22/08 09:32 AM)
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#36355 - 02/22/08 12:36 PM Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game [Re: Sibambamahawu]
Muntongenakudla Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 649
Loc: Mtubatuba
Sibambimidlelo

You've lost all sense of objectivity. Seems you're hell bent on being my adversary. Uphokophele nje ukudicilela phansi zonk' izimvo zami - irrespective ukuthi ngithini. Uvele wazi tshena nje ukuthi kufanele wakhe a fort of paranoia to protect uMthwakazi wakho from mina. You're living a very sad life. Anyway, yilungelo lakho lelo. But why torture yourself monna?

Truth is, my thread was not meant for those abafana njenga nawe. It was meant for the dunderhead Brian Ngwenya & his ilk - dullards who seek to find scapegoats of convenience for ubuphukuphuku babo. Issue is, oBrian Ngwenya laba can't do it - they're & were never good enough! They can't make it to varsity anywhere in the world coz they're dull. So they must just shut the hell up.

You can't put a good man down. Yingakho those who qualified for varsity KwaM-g-o, under stringent conditions must be given due credit. They're men among men & have proven ngoku ngena ko Oxford, Cambridge, Natal, Wits & get Master's & PhD degrees. You won't hear them scream foul nge allegations of umkhoshokhosho kwi tertiary admission criteria anywhere in the world (let alone KwaMgo). O-Brian Ngwenya are useless can'ts. They can't make it anywhere emhlabeni. Hence they blame amaShona for their fate.

And for as iziphukuphuku like Brian Ngwenya & his ilk, they must be stopped dead in their tracks. Kufanele babe exposed for the jealous and evil goons they are. And it's Mthwakazians like you Sibambimidlelo who must call them to order, nipheze uhlevane abeze nalo laph' esigungwini.

Truth is: Shonas are not to blame for ukungafundi koBrian Ngwenya & his ilk. Instead ubuphukuphuku ne dullness yabo is directly to blame.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
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uShamase wangempela!
Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga!
Igcokama likaNdonga.
Isishwapha sikaSomkhele.
Yangcol' into ngayintshinga - bayicosha abafokazana!
Futheka mnyekefuli.
Ngiwuphula ngamabomu umoya wakho - yilento ekubulalayo!

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#36357 - 02/22/08 03:40 PM Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game [Re: Muntongenakudla]
Sgero Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 05/31/04
Posts: 643
Loc: United Kingdom
uBrian Ngwenya lo uyakuphendula sikhwicamfundo Mnto. There is not greater crime in academia than that or plagiarism and that of using assumptions and making them into facts.
1. More than half of the care agencies in the UK baqhatshe abantu besiShoneni (fact)- all you need to do is look at a cross section of the employees ezilapho kuma agencies lawo is to take a look at Redspot, Genesis etc.
2. There are no backstreet nursing colleges in the UK (fact). All nurse training institutions are university hospitals.
3. The number of Mthwakazians that hold university degrees all the way to the highest level is just so huge la eUK. Kule movement that is working on bringing Masters and doctoral fellows and holders together ababuya from ezweni ongalithandiyo and the pioneers zakhona are Mthwakazians - bathule and going about their businesses bengaklabalali njengawe owenzela abangafundanga njengathi oBrian Ngwenya phansi. Wena ofundileyo what have you done for abantu bakini KwaMashu who are way below literacy level (fact). Nga uthatha isikhathi sakho and bring them up. Ungenzi engathi eMzansi is out of this world and all rosy -people who still think ukuthi ungageza nge shower after ulele lomuntu ole AIDS then you are safe! Maye! Thuthukisa abantu lapho okhona hayi ukuba busy usitshela ngokuthi silothuli emehlweni when you have a log in your eye.

Your independent observation is appreciated hatshi nxa ingathi iyathuka and using your imagination and putting it down as fact. Kuhle to be a harsh critic hayi to be a insane critic. Yimi ozithobayo uBrian Ngwenya


Edited by Sgero (02/22/08 03:42 PM)
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#36360 - 02/22/08 05:35 PM Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game [Re: Sgero]
Nqoba Offline
Sakhamuzi

Registered: 05/15/06
Posts: 52
Loc: emabhonobono
Isihloko salelikhasi sithi sona "Fo shuwa ipolitiki is a dirty game" kodwa lanxa kunjalo some of our criticisms may be more dirty than the game itself.
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#36361 - 02/22/08 08:55 PM Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game [Re: Nqoba]
Mthakathi27 Offline
Nduna

Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 323
Loc: Canada
Our best African University seems to be Capetown University followed by Wits University at 200 and 282 respectively. Where is Zim in this list?

THES - QS World University Rankings 2007 - Top 400 Universities
Rank School Name Country
1 HARVARD University United States
2= University of CAMBRIDGE United Kingdom
2= YALE University United States
2= University of OXFORD United Kingdom
5 Imperial College LONDON United Kingdom

6 PRINCETON University United States
7= CALIFORNIA Institute of Technology (Calt... United States
7= University of CHICAGO United States
9 UCL (University College LONDON) United Kingdom
10 MASSACHUSETTS Institute of Technology (M... United States
11 COLUMBIA University United States
12 MCGILL University Canada
13 DUKE University United States
14 University of PENNSYLVANIA United States
15 JOHNS HOPKINS University United States
16 AUSTRALIAN National University Australia
17 University of TOKYO Japan
18 University of HONG KONG Hong Kong
19 STANFORD University United States
20= CORNELL University United States
20= CARNEGIE MELLON University United States
22 University of California, BERKELEY United States
23 University of EDINBURGH United Kingdom
24 King's College LONDON United Kingdom

25 KYOTO University Japan
26 Ecole Normale Sup?rieure, PARIS France
27 University of MELBOURNE Australia
28 ?COLE POLYTECHNIQUE France
29 NORTHWESTERN University United States
30 University of MANCHESTER United Kingdom
31 The University of SYDNEY Australia
32 BROWN University United States
33= University of QUEENSLAND Australia
33= University of BRITISH COLUMBIA Canada
33= National University of SINGAPORE Singapore
36 PEKING University China
37 University of BRISTOL United Kingdom
38= University of MICHIGAN United States
38= The CHINESE University of Hong Kong Hong Kong
40 TSINGHUA University China
41 University of CALIFORNIA, Los Angeles (U... United States
42 ETH Zurich (Swiss Federal Institute of T... Switzerland
43 MONASH University Australia
44 University of NEW SOUTH WALES Australia
45 University of TORONTO Canada
46 OSAKA University Japan
47 BOSTON University United States
48 University of AMSTERDAM Netherlands
49 NEW YORK University (NYU) United States
50 The University of AUCKLAND New Zealand
51= University of TEXAS at Austin United States
51= SEOUL National University Korea, South
53= TRINITY College Dublin Ireland
53= HONG KONG University of Science & Techno... Hong Kong
55= University of WISCONSIN-Madison United States
55= University of WASHINGTON United States
57 University of WARWICK United Kingdom
58 University of CALIFORNIA, San Diego United States
59 LONDON School of Economics and Political... United Kingdom
60 HEIDELBERG University Germany
61 Katholieke Universiteit LEUVEN Belgium
62 University of ADELAIDE Australia
63 DELFT University of Technology Netherlands
64 University of WESTERN AUSTRALIA Australia
65= Ludwig-Maximilians-Universit?t M?nchen (... Germany
65= University of BIRMINGHAM United Kingdom
67 Technische Universit?t M?NCHEN Germany
68 University of SHEFFIELD United Kingdom
69 NANYANG Technological University Singapore
70 University of NOTTINGHAM United Kingdom
71= UPPSALA University Sweden
71= DARTMOUTH College United States
73 University of ILLINOIS United States
74= EMORY University United States
74= University of YORK United Kingdom
76 University of ST ANDREWS United Kingdom

77= PURDUE University United States
77= University of PITTSBURGH United States
79 University of MARYLAND United States
80= University of SOUTHAMPTON United Kingdom
80= University of LEEDS United Kingdom

82 VANDERBILT University United States
83 University of GLASGOW United Kingdom
84 LEIDEN University Netherlands
85= FUDAN University China
85= CASE WESTERN RESERVE University United States
85= University of VIENNA Austria
88 QUEEN'S University Canada
89 UTRECHT University Netherlands
90= TOKYO Institute of Technology Japan
90= PENNSYLVANIA STATE University United States
92 RICE University United States
93= University of COPENHAGEN Denmark
93= University of MONTREAL Canada
95 University of ROCHESTER United States
96 University of CALIFORNIA, Davis United States
97= University of ALBERTA Canada
97= GEORGIA Institute of Technology United States
99 CARDIFF University United Kingdom
100 University of HELSINKI Finland
101 University of LIVERPOOL United Kingdom
102= GEORGETOWN University United States
102= National TAIWAN University Taiwan
102= TOHOKU University Japan
105 University of GENEVA Switzerland
106 LUND University Sweden
107 University of COLORADO United States
108 MCMASTER University Canada
109 DURHAM University United Kingdom
110 University of VIRGINIA United States
111 MAASTRICHT University Netherlands
112= University of WATERLOO Canada
112= NAGOYA University Japan
114= University of BASEL Switzerland
114= University of OTAGO New Zealand
114= University of AARHUS Denmark
117= Ecole Polytechnique F?d?rale de LAUSANNE... Switzerland
117= University of CALIFORNIA, Santa Barbara United States
119 University of SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA United States
120 OHIO STATE University United States
121 University of SUSSEX United Kingdom
122 TEXAS A&M University United States
123 Universit? Catholique de LOUVAIN (UCL) Belgium
124 University of GHENT Belgium
125 NANJING University China
126= University of WESTERN ONTARIO Canada
126= HUMBOLDT-Universit?t zu Berlin Germany
128 Hebrew University of JERUSALEM Israel
129 NEWCASTLE University, NEWCASTLE Upon Tyn... United Kingdom
130= Technical University of DENMARK Denmark
130= EINDHOVEN University of Technology Netherlands
132= Universit? Pierre-et-Marie-Curie - PARIS... France
132= KOREA Advanced Institute of Science & Te... Korea, South
134 University of ARIZONA United States
135 University of FLORIDA United States
136 KYUSHU University Japan
137= University of ABERDEEN United Kingdom
137= INDIANA University Bloomington United States
139 SIMON FRASER University Canada
140= University of ZURICH Switzerland
140= University of CALIFORNIA, Irvine United States
142= Universit?t T?BINGEN Germany
142= University of MINNESOTA United States
144 Universit?t FREIBURG Germany
145 University of BATH United Kingdom
146 Freie Universit?t BERLIN Germany
147 University of LANCASTER United Kingdom
148 WAGENINGEN University Netherlands
149= CITY University of Hong Kong Hong Kong
149= Queen Mary, University of LONDON United Kingdom
151= HOKKAIDO University Japan
151= University of NORTH CAROLINA United States
151= TEL AVIV University Israel
154 Universit? Libre de BRUXELLES (ULB) Belgium
155= University of Science and Technology of ... China
155= University of NOTRE DAME United States
157 Ecole Normale Sup?rieure de LYON France
158 CRANFIELD University United Kingdom
159= MICHIGAN STATE University United States
159= TUFTS University United States
161= KEIO University Japan
161= WASHINGTON University in St. Louis United States
163= SHANGHAI JIAO TONG University China
163= ERASMUS University Rotterdam Netherlands
165 Universit?t STUTTGART Germany
166= University of CALGARY Canada
166= VIENNA University of Technology Austria
168= Universit?t G?TTINGEN Germany
168= MACQUARIE University Australia
170 HELSINKI University of Technology - TKK Finland
171= Universit?t KARLSRUHE Germany
171= University of DUNDEE United Kingdom
173= University of BOLOGNA Italy
173= University of GRONINGEN Netherlands
175= University of SAO PAULO Brazil
175= University of MASSACHUSETTS, Amherst United States
177= RUTGERS, The State University of New Jer... United States
177= University of CAMPINAS (Unicamp) Brazil
177= University College DUBLIN Ireland
180= WASEDA University Japan
180= University of READING United Kingdom
182 Rheinisch-Westf?lische Technische Hochsc... Germany
183 Universit? degli Studi di ROMA - La Sapi... Italy
184 Universit? Louis Pasteur - STRASBOURG I France
185= University of TWENTE Netherlands
185= University of LEICESTER United Kingdom
187 University of ANTWERP Belgium
188= University of CANTERBURY New Zealand
188= University of OSLO Norway
190 University of SURREY United Kingdom
191 RENSSELAER Polytechnic Institute United States
192= KTH, ROYAL Institute of Technology Sweden
192= Universidad Nacional Aut?noma de M?xico ... Mexico
194 University of BARCELONA Spain
195= QUEENSLAND University of Technology Australia
195= Radboud Universiteit NIJMEGEN Netherlands
197= CHALMERS University of Technology Sweden
197= KOBE University Japan
199 University of WOLLONGONG Australia
200= RMIT University Australia
200= University of CAPE TOWN South Africa
202 University of MIAMI United States
203= WAKE FOREST University United States
203= Technische Universit?t BERLIN Germany
205= QUEEN'S University of Belfast United Kingdom
205= LA TROBE University Australia
207 University of IOWA United States
208 BRANDEIS University United States
209= University of TSUKUBA Japan
209= Universit?t FRANKFURT am Main Germany
209= ZHEJIANG University China
212 HIROSHIMA University Japan
213 University of VICTORIA Canada
214 University of BERN Switzerland
215 University of NEWCASTLE Australia
216 Universit?t HAMBURG Germany
217 University of LAUSANNE Switzerland
218 TULANE University United States
219 University of CINCINNATI United States
220 University of EXETER United Kingdom
221= DALHOUSIE University Canada
221= ARIZONA STATE University United States
223 CHULALONGKORN University Thailand
224 STONY BROOK University United States
225= University of INNSBRUCK Austria
225= University of BERGEN Norway
227= OTTAWA University Canada
227= Sciences Po PARIS France
229= Vrije University BRUSSELS (VUB) Belgium
229= GEORGE WASHINGTON University United States
231= Lomonosov MOSCOW STATE University Russia
231= TECHNION - Israel Institute of Technolog... Israel
233 POHANG University of Science and Technol... Korea, South
234 VICTORIA University of Wellington New Zealand
235 CURTIN University of Technology Australia
236 YONSEI University Korea, South
237= University of TURKU Finland
237= LOUGHBOROUGH University United Kingdom
239= Technische Universit?t DARMSTADT Germany
239= Pontificia Universidad Cat?lica de CHILE... Chile
239= SAINT-PETERSBURG State University Russia
242 MASSEY University New Zealand
243= School of Oriental and African Studies, ... United Kingdom
243= KOREA University Korea, South
243= Technische Universit?t DRESDEN Germany
246= STOCKHOLM University Sweden
246= Universiti MALAYA (UM) Malaysia
248= University of ATHENS Greece
248= NORTH CAROLINA STATE University United States
248= YORK University Canada
248= Virginia Polytechnic Institute (VIRGINIA... United States
252 University of STRATHCLYDE United Kingdom
253 FLORIDA STATE University United States
254 University of DELHI India
255 University of HAWAII United States
256= The HONG KONG Polytechnic University Hong Kong
256= DREXEL University United States
258 Universidad Aut?noma de BARCELONA Spain
259= University of Technology, SYDNEY Australia
259= University of CALIFORNIA, Santa Cruz United States
261 University of UTAH United States
262 University of LIEGE Belgium
263 Universit?t ULM Germany
264= University of TASMANIA Australia
264= University of BUENOS AIRES Argentina
266 ASTON University United Kingdom
267= KUOPIO University Finland
267= Universit? Paris-Sud, PARIS XI France
269 Indian Institute of Technology Bombay (I... India
270= Universit?t ERLANGEN-N?RNBERG Germany
270= Universit?t W?RZBURG Germany
272 University of ESSEX United Kingdom
273= STOCKHOLM School of Economics Sweden
273= NAGASAKI University Japan
275 Universit? Joseph-Fourier, GRENOBLE I France
276= IOWA STATE University United States
276= Rheinische Friedrich-Wilhelms-Universit?... Germany
276= G?teborg University Sweden
279 Karl-Franzens-University GRAZ Austria
280 LAVAL University Canada
281 University of KANSAS United States
282= University of the WITWATERSRAND South Africa
282= University of ALABAMA United States
284= CHIBA University Japan
284= MAHIDOL University Thailand
286= University College CORK Ireland
286= BEN GURION University of the Negev Israel
286= WASHINGTON STATE University United States
289 University of TENNESSEE United States
290 CHARLES University Czech Republic
291 University of SOUTH AUSTRALIA Australia
292= Universit?t LEIPZIG Germany
292= University of TROMSO Norway
292= BRUNEL University United Kingdom 295= Universit? Paris-Sorbonne (PARIS IV) France
295= University of GEORGIA United States
297 Universit?t BAYREUTH Germany
298 University of CALIFORNIA, Riverside United States
299 UME? University Sweden
300 DUBLIN City University Ireland
301= University of MONTPELLIER II - Sciences ... France
301= NORWEGIAN University of Science and Tech... Norway
303 College of WILLIAM & MARY United States
304= Vrije Universiteit AMSTERDAM Netherlands
304= University of MANITOBA Canada
306 Universidad Aut?noma de MADRID Spain
307= Universiti Sains MALAYSIA (USM) Malaysia
307= Indian Institute of Technology Delhi (II... India
309= Universiti Kebangsaan MALAYSIA (UKM) Malaysia
309= GRIFFITH University Australia
311 Universit?t KONSTANZ Germany
312= Universit?t BIELEFELD Germany
312= Universidad de CHILE Chile
312= University of PADUA Italy
312= Universit?t D?SSELDORF Germany
316 Universit?t JENA Germany
317 University of SOUTHERN DENMARK Denmark
318 SHOWA University Japan
319= University of WAIKATO New Zealand
319= University of TAMPERE Finland
319= University of COIMBRA Portugal
319= University of Cologne Germany
319= University of NAVARRA Spain
324 TIANJIN University China
325 University of PISA Italy
326 COLORADO STATE University United States
327 WHU Otto Beisheim School of Management -... Germany
328 University of CONNECTICUT United States
329 University of FLORENCE Italy
330 Johannes Gutenberg University MAINZ Germany
331= JAGIELLONIAN University Poland
331= GUNMA University Japan
333 Ruhr-Universit?t BOCHUM Germany
334 National TSING HUA University Taiwan
335 TOKYO Metropolitan University Japan
336= National CHENG KUNG University Taiwan
336= University of QUEBEC Canada
338 Federal University of RIO DE JANEIRO Brazil
339= Universitat POMPEU FABRA Spain
339= University of M?NSTER Germany
341= Universit?t MARBURG Germany
341= Universidade Nova de LISBOA Portugal
343= Politecnico di MILANO Italy
343= University of DELAWARE United States
345= GIFU University Japan
345= WARSAW University Poland
345= SAARLAND University Germany
345= CARLETON University Canada
349 University of BRADFORD United Kingdom
350 LOYOLA University Chicago United States
351= University of OREGON United States
351= FLINDERS University Australia
351= DUBLIN Institute of Technology Ireland
354= YOKOHAMA NATIONAL University Japan
354= University of OULU Finland
356= National Technical University of ATHENS Greece
356= University of EAST Anglia (UEA) United Kingdom
358= City University of NEW YORK United States
358= University of NEW MEXICO United States
360= Universitas GADJAH MADA Indonesia
360= University of TOULOUSE III - Paul Sabati... France
362= University of ST GALLEN Switzerland
362= University of SOUTH CAROLINA United States
364= Universiti Putra MALAYSIA (UPM) Malaysia
364= Science University TOKYO Japan
364= Universit?t BREMEN Germany
364= OSAKA CITY University Japan
368 Johannes Kepler University LINZ Austria
369= Universit? PARIS I - Panth?on Sorbonne France
369= BANDUNG Institute of Technology Indonesia
371= WARSAW University of Technology Poland
371= LINK?PING University Sweden
373 University of OKLAHOMA United States
374= DEAKIN University Australia
374= University of JYV?SKYL? Finland
374= University of TRIESTE Italy
377 OKAYAMA University Japan
378= Universit?t REGENSBURG Germany
378= University of KENTUCKY United States
380 SUNG KYUN KWAN University Korea, South
381= YESHIVA University United States
381= University of MISSOURI United States
383= Leibniz Universit?t HANNOVER Germany
383= CONCORDIA University Canada
383= Technische Universit?t BRAUNSCHWEIG Germany
386= NORTHEASTERN University United States
386= KUMAMOTO University Japan
388= Universit? degli Studi di PAVIA Italy
388= Christian-Albrechts-Universit?t zu KIEL Germany
390 ISTANBUL Technical University Turkey
391 Universit? PARIS V - Descartes France
392 Universit?t MANNHEIM Germany
393 Universitat de VALENCIA Spain
394 University of SIENA Italy
395 University of INDONESIA Indonesia
396= GEORGIA STATE University United States
396= Martin-Luther-Universit?t HALLE-WITTENBE... Germany
398= University of the PHILIPPINES Philippines
398= National CENTRAL University Taiwan
398= SOGANG University Korea, South

Source: THES ? QS World University Rankings
? Quacquarelli Symonds 2004 - 2007
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Edited by Mthakathi27 (02/22/08 08:58 PM)
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#36363 - 02/22/08 11:18 PM Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game [Re: Mthakathi27]
Zwangendaba Offline
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Registered: 04/27/03
Posts: 1399
Loc: New York, New York, USA
Bafowethu.

I JUST GOT WORD FROM ONE OF OUR AGENTS IN SOUTH AFRIKA. THIS AGENT IS A SOUTH AFRIKAN BY ORIGIN AND BIRTH. KULABANTU ABACHAPHA UMNGCWELE AND CLAIMED THEMSELVES TO BE NDEBELE WHEN THEY GOT TO SOUTH AFRIKA, USING NAMES FROM MTHWAKAZI TERRITORIES AND YET THIS AGENT SAYS WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUES PERTAINING TO MTHWAKAZI, THEY DO NOT SPEAK LIKE US. I HAVE BEEN AT PAINS TO EXPLAIN TO THIS GUY WHAT THE SHORT SLEECES ARE LIKE. ANGITSHO LIYABONA ABANYE BAZITHI BANGU MTHWAKAZI and THEN THEY TURN AROUND AND USE THE SAME LANGUAGE THEY HAVE USED TO GAGE HOW FAR THEIR 1979 GRAND PLAN HAS GONE. THEY USE PERFECT ZULU. THEY DO NOT USE ISINDEBELE. THEY CLAIM TO KNOW OUR HISTORY, BUT THEY DO NOT LIVE BY IT.

I ALSO GOT INFORMATION FROM A FRIEND IN CANADA, SHE IS ALSO A CITIZEN OF CANADA. SOME PEOPLE HAVE USED NDEBELE NAMES TO GET ASYLUM AN CANADA. SHE HOWEVER SAYS WHEN SHE ASKS THEM ABOUT MTHWAKAZI, THEY SPEAK DIFFERENTLY FROM US. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN BY DIFFERENTLY.

THIS CANADIAN FRIEND IS IN THE IMMIGRATION DEPARTMENT. I HAVE EXPLAINED A LOT OF THINGS TO HER, AND SHE DOES NOT MIND ME TELLING THIS HERE. AMASHONA ANGENA ENGO SIBANDA, SHAMASE, NDOU, NKALA etc e CANADA. SEBESIDLA ILIFA LETHU BONA BEBHIZI BESIBULALA LAPHA. THE GRAND PLAN HAS IT THAT IT WILL DESTRY THE EDUCATION IN MTHWAKAZI. NOW THE SHORT SLEEVES ARE TELLING US ON OUR FACES THAT WE ARE DULL.

Let us penetrate the communities in which we live and explain WHO WE ARE, and let them know that anyone else is an IMPOSTER.

Li Zwangendaba.


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#36366 - 02/23/08 12:49 AM Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game [Re: Zwangendaba]
SINATHAMAHEWU Offline
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Registered: 02/27/02
Posts: 632
Loc: The Republic of Mthwakazi
I think the problem elapha is that some people(and not all) who are not in the so called Diaspora have an inferiority complex.
That complex is a trigger factor for this senseless attack on those who are in the Diaspora like Brian Ngwenya. For them it is a boxing match against those in the Diaspora in a bid to prove they are better than those overseas. This is very sad.

The most pleasing thing is that there are people abafundileyo lapha eDiaspora or who are studying in the well to do universities who are going about their business bethule without ranting and raving to the world bethi bafundile kulabanye.Such rants and ravs are indeed an exercise in futility!

If one looks at the world rankings of these universities, one will realise that ekaMgaxa wansondo lena kayikho kwi-ma-World rankings lana. So where is it? Is it in some back street yard somewhere in Africa or to be precise in Mashonaland? hk hk hk hk




Edited by SINATHAMAHEWU (02/23/08 12:57 AM)
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#36367 - 02/23/08 03:24 AM Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game [Re: SINATHAMAHEWU]
abafokazi Offline
Ngqwele

Registered: 07/15/03
Posts: 117
Loc: Luton, england
Muntongenakudla
Ya sibili awunakudla, angazi ukuthi kusuka kuthini lapha ekhanda. You really have a severe attitude problem. Who has sent you come and fight with us. Ukhangelela abanye abantu phansi wena uyini. You sound very confused and you dont know were you stand, first of all you told ukuthi awufundanga and now you are tell us ukuthi ufundile, i fail to understand you. I wonder ukuthi uyazizwa ukuthi uthini.

Anywhere life is not about ukuthi ufunde kanjani kumbe unothe kanjani as long as you are happy with what you are or what you have thats fine. Musa ukuzenza oncono, njalo ndoda owakufundisa isindebele wakuwona

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