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#36345 - 02/22/08 12:38 AM
Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game
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Ngqwele
Registered: 07/15/03
Posts: 117
Loc: Luton, england
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First of all Muntuenganakudla uyakwazi na ukuthi mthwakazi kutshoni. Mthwakazi does not mean Ndebeles only. If you understand this then thats cleared out of the way.
There is something that you have got to know and its that thina as the so called "minority", i mean the ndebeles we have always tried by all means to be on the right end of the stick. We have fought for freedom, peace and justice. Where else wena ndoda you spend much of the time judging us and that means you dont get to see the good qualities that we have. We try to come up with meaningful discussions but you dont seem to understand what we try to achieve by these discussion.
Why spend all these time criticising us, dont put blinkers on us, dont limit us, i for one know that the sky is the limit fo mthwakazi. Look at the people that you speak highly of, they voted Mugabe, happiness was all over them when he killed people from Matebaland using gukurahundi, and the other thing is 'where were you when there was Ntumbane@, lots of people did die you know. Tell me what has this lead to, it lead to this power hungry zanu govt having full control of everything, and when i say everything this means I'm trying to get you to remember that that they had already brought fear on our people by the use of gukurahundi, ntumbane and etc, this means that the mthwakazi were very opressed and this made it difficult for them elevate educationally and all the top jobs were filled by the shonas while some of our people escaped into the neighbouring SA and yet here you come and tell me ukuthi asifundanga.
Now look, it has taken shonas this long to realise that mugabe has not been ruling this country well, they now escape to SA as well does it means abafundanga labo khathesi yini na ( are they dull), if you look at it they are now so keen to vote umgabe out,
Please tell what are they thinking now. Have they just realised that we have been on the right path for all along, and that this guy (mgabe) has not been a good leader
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#36352 - 02/22/08 08:27 AM
Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game
[Re: abafokazi]
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Ndunankulu
Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 649
Loc: Mtubatuba
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Abafokazi
My oh my, you?ve lost it yet again. There?s absolutely no need for you to heap kimina all the blame for your alleged Mthwakazians? sordid state. Mina kaNdonga am only an independent commentator, on a crusade yoku pheza idimoni lamanga eli gasele usapho lwenu kulesi sigungu. Akukh? okunye. If you?re looking for a scapegoat, just turn your head elsewhere ? but as I said: one is not a failure until they start blaming it on others.
Issue is, no one has had the audacity to come up with plausible evidence of the empty allegations of favouritism in admissions into the tertiary institutions zase zweni lenu. I therefore take it that yonke le nyovanyova is a lie peddled by those with sour grapes. Those dullards who could not make it to university KwaM-g-o-t-s because they were stupid, incapable & plain not-good-enough.
Ithi ngiku tshene indaba ungayi buzanga. This will serve as a microcosm of isifo esimbi sabantu boMthwakazi wansondo.
Reminds me of impintshi yam? evuth? ekhaleni - uMqabuleshesha wakwaMtimande. Now uMqabuleshesha lona tells me of this other naturally dull boy from esikoleni, kudala le KwaM-go. Uthi ene lo mphuphe womfana came from a rural place called eBhekeni ? never been to town in all his life. Igama lalo mfana ngu Brian Ngwenya. He was a dunderhead ?isinxadi, hopelessly dull, dirty boy, edonsa nzima ? edonsa ngo diesel esikoleni. He was always stinking, enga gezi, esaba nje into ebizwa ngamanzi - ethi ene kwazalela ingwenya kulawo manzi: yingakho uyayi hlonipha ingwenya kuhle kwesi bongo sakhe. He was so dirty, ehlala egxaza amafinyila (amakhovula). Kwaya, kwaya, as expected of a dunderhead, he flopped kwi preliminary stages: O?level. Frustrated and doomed KwaM-g-o-t-s, he joined the exodus to Ngilandi, masquerading, as they always do, njenge political refugee.
Efika eNgilandi bandla, the dunderhead boy, as expected ? went into these peripheral professions, befitting his small, dull head. Awu, wakilina izalukazi here & there, kwaya nangu eseba yi male nurse ? having trained in some backstreet nursing college. Awu bandla, nanso ke i-dullard isihola okuyi Pondo kwamaNgisi, isiya kwazi nokugeza ? isiya qala ukubonabona. All of a sudden, uswayini usebona sengathi he?s clever. Nango ezenza a politically astute man. He becomes a pseudo expert in matters M-g-o-t-s political. He blames all his failures le emuva Kwa-M-go-t-s on amaShona. Uthi ene, he was never given a chance to go to varsity blah, blah. Amanga aluhlaza cwe.
These are the kind of sentiments by dull boys like Brian Ngwenya that make me sick. He is basically trivialising all the intelligent men & women who deservedly went through university KwaM-g-o-t-s. By questioning the admission criteria, he is attempting to discredit the qualifications zalabo bantu.
Unfortunately, there are many of the likes of Brian Ngwenya in this forum. Isifo sabo samanga nomhobholo has become a shield & smokescreen to hide their shortcomings emphakathini. They want to blame ubu phukuphuku babo on amaShona. Very sad low lives.
Umbuzo wami bese uba wukuthi: granted the likes of Brian Ngwenya were denied opportunities to go to varsity kwaM-g-o, how come they?re still doing menial jobs like ukukilina izalukazi ne nursing eNgilandi? Why are they not going into Cambridge & Oxford? Are the Shonas still blocking their paths eNgilandi? I?d rather they take this mumbo-jumbo elsewhere coz I aint buying it.
Interestingly, those very guys who went into varsity KwaM-g-o-t-s, are Masters? & PhD graduates khonale eNgilandi & many other countries.
The likes of Brian Ngwenya are failures. They blame others for their own fate.
Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
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#36353 - 02/22/08 09:26 AM
Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game
[Re: Muntongenakudla]
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Ndunankulu
 
Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 803
Loc: KwaGodlwayo
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Zulu kaNdaba
Some people do naively believe in research evidence as biblical truths. What they do not realise is that research is never nuetral, it is never value-free, it is indeed political. No matter which methodology you chose, it will never be purely scientific, it will be influenced by your ideologies your processes and methods of gathering data. We know our Mthwakazi situation, we don't need prophets of doom descending from kwelikaMthaniya to tell us how we are treated in Zimbabwwe. These very psuedo-prophets if you give them evidence that has been compiled by Mthwakazians, they will jump and accuse you of using partisan evidence, but if you use some kind of evidence from the Northerners our erstwhile friends, they will jump up and down and congratulate you for hanging yourself. Mthwakazi we must never accept to be held back because of these people who think they are all knowing and should therefore prescribe how we should run our affairs.
Some people will die from and of umona and inferiority complex. How many Mthwakazians, whose chances were deliberately thwarted in Zimbabwe, who have completed Masters and PhD Degrees in foreign lands? Those who feel inferior and threatened by those in foreign lands will worry themselves and deride those in foreign lands, who are trying to better themselves. Whatever kind of occupations and professions we have chosen its our choice and our right to do so. Jealousy and bigotry will kill other people i tell you. But to assure those who are insecure, i would like to tell them that there is nothing special about those overseas, they are still people like you, they respect you and they deserve to be respected as well.
Edited by Sibambamahawu (02/22/08 09:32 AM)
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#36355 - 02/22/08 12:36 PM
Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game
[Re: Sibambamahawu]
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Ndunankulu
Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 649
Loc: Mtubatuba
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Sibambimidlelo
You've lost all sense of objectivity. Seems you're hell bent on being my adversary. Uphokophele nje ukudicilela phansi zonk' izimvo zami - irrespective ukuthi ngithini. Uvele wazi tshena nje ukuthi kufanele wakhe a fort of paranoia to protect uMthwakazi wakho from mina. You're living a very sad life. Anyway, yilungelo lakho lelo. But why torture yourself monna?
Truth is, my thread was not meant for those abafana njenga nawe. It was meant for the dunderhead Brian Ngwenya & his ilk - dullards who seek to find scapegoats of convenience for ubuphukuphuku babo. Issue is, oBrian Ngwenya laba can't do it - they're & were never good enough! They can't make it to varsity anywhere in the world coz they're dull. So they must just shut the hell up.
You can't put a good man down. Yingakho those who qualified for varsity KwaM-g-o, under stringent conditions must be given due credit. They're men among men & have proven ngoku ngena ko Oxford, Cambridge, Natal, Wits & get Master's & PhD degrees. You won't hear them scream foul nge allegations of umkhoshokhosho kwi tertiary admission criteria anywhere in the world (let alone KwaMgo). O-Brian Ngwenya are useless can'ts. They can't make it anywhere emhlabeni. Hence they blame amaShona for their fate.
And for as iziphukuphuku like Brian Ngwenya & his ilk, they must be stopped dead in their tracks. Kufanele babe exposed for the jealous and evil goons they are. And it's Mthwakazians like you Sibambimidlelo who must call them to order, nipheze uhlevane abeze nalo laph' esigungwini.
Truth is: Shonas are not to blame for ukungafundi koBrian Ngwenya & his ilk. Instead ubuphukuphuku ne dullness yabo is directly to blame.
Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
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uShamase wangempela! Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga! Igcokama likaNdonga. Isishwapha sikaSomkhele. Yangcol' into ngayintshinga - bayicosha abafokazana! Futheka mnyekefuli. Ngiwuphula ngamabomu umoya wakho - yilento ekubulalayo!
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#36357 - 02/22/08 03:40 PM
Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game
[Re: Muntongenakudla]
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Ndunankulu
Registered: 05/31/04
Posts: 643
Loc: United Kingdom
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uBrian Ngwenya lo uyakuphendula sikhwicamfundo Mnto. There is not greater crime in academia than that or plagiarism and that of using assumptions and making them into facts. 1. More than half of the care agencies in the UK baqhatshe abantu besiShoneni (fact)- all you need to do is look at a cross section of the employees ezilapho kuma agencies lawo is to take a look at Redspot, Genesis etc. 2. There are no backstreet nursing colleges in the UK (fact). All nurse training institutions are university hospitals. 3. The number of Mthwakazians that hold university degrees all the way to the highest level is just so huge la eUK. Kule movement that is working on bringing Masters and doctoral fellows and holders together ababuya from ezweni ongalithandiyo and the pioneers zakhona are Mthwakazians - bathule and going about their businesses bengaklabalali njengawe owenzela abangafundanga njengathi oBrian Ngwenya phansi. Wena ofundileyo what have you done for abantu bakini KwaMashu who are way below literacy level (fact). Nga uthatha isikhathi sakho and bring them up. Ungenzi engathi eMzansi is out of this world and all rosy -people who still think ukuthi ungageza nge shower after ulele lomuntu ole AIDS then you are safe! Maye! Thuthukisa abantu lapho okhona hayi ukuba busy usitshela ngokuthi silothuli emehlweni when you have a log in your eye.
Your independent observation is appreciated hatshi nxa ingathi iyathuka and using your imagination and putting it down as fact. Kuhle to be a harsh critic hayi to be a insane critic. Yimi ozithobayo uBrian Ngwenya
Edited by Sgero (02/22/08 03:42 PM)
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#36360 - 02/22/08 05:35 PM
Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game
[Re: Sgero]
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 05/15/06
Posts: 52
Loc: emabhonobono
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Isihloko salelikhasi sithi sona "Fo shuwa ipolitiki is a dirty game" kodwa lanxa kunjalo some of our criticisms may be more dirty than the game itself.
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#36361 - 02/22/08 08:55 PM
Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game
[Re: Nqoba]
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Nduna
Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 323
Loc: Canada
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Our best African University seems to be Capetown University followed by Wits University at 200 and 282 respectively. Where is Zim in this list?
THES - QS World University Rankings 2007 - Top 400 Universities Rank School Name Country 1 HARVARD University United States 2= University of CAMBRIDGE United Kingdom 2= YALE University United States 2= University of OXFORD United Kingdom 5 Imperial College LONDON United Kingdom 6 PRINCETON University United States 7= CALIFORNIA Institute of Technology (Calt... United States 7= University of CHICAGO United States 9 UCL (University College LONDON) United Kingdom 10 MASSACHUSETTS Institute of Technology (M... United States 11 COLUMBIA University United States 12 MCGILL University Canada 13 DUKE University United States 14 University of PENNSYLVANIA United States 15 JOHNS HOPKINS University United States 16 AUSTRALIAN National University Australia 17 University of TOKYO Japan 18 University of HONG KONG Hong Kong 19 STANFORD University United States 20= CORNELL University United States 20= CARNEGIE MELLON University United States 22 University of California, BERKELEY United States 23 University of EDINBURGH United Kingdom 24 King's College LONDON United Kingdom 25 KYOTO University Japan 26 Ecole Normale Sup?rieure, PARIS France 27 University of MELBOURNE Australia 28 ?COLE POLYTECHNIQUE France 29 NORTHWESTERN University United States 30 University of MANCHESTER United Kingdom 31 The University of SYDNEY Australia 32 BROWN University United States 33= University of QUEENSLAND Australia 33= University of BRITISH COLUMBIA Canada 33= National University of SINGAPORE Singapore 36 PEKING University China 37 University of BRISTOL United Kingdom 38= University of MICHIGAN United States 38= The CHINESE University of Hong Kong Hong Kong 40 TSINGHUA University China 41 University of CALIFORNIA, Los Angeles (U... United States 42 ETH Zurich (Swiss Federal Institute of T... Switzerland 43 MONASH University Australia 44 University of NEW SOUTH WALES Australia 45 University of TORONTO Canada 46 OSAKA University Japan 47 BOSTON University United States 48 University of AMSTERDAM Netherlands 49 NEW YORK University (NYU) United States 50 The University of AUCKLAND New Zealand 51= University of TEXAS at Austin United States 51= SEOUL National University Korea, South 53= TRINITY College Dublin Ireland 53= HONG KONG University of Science & Techno... Hong Kong 55= University of WISCONSIN-Madison United States 55= University of WASHINGTON United States 57 University of WARWICK United Kingdom 58 University of CALIFORNIA, San Diego United States 59 LONDON School of Economics and Political... United Kingdom 60 HEIDELBERG University Germany 61 Katholieke Universiteit LEUVEN Belgium 62 University of ADELAIDE Australia 63 DELFT University of Technology Netherlands 64 University of WESTERN AUSTRALIA Australia 65= Ludwig-Maximilians-Universit?t M?nchen (... Germany 65= University of BIRMINGHAM United Kingdom 67 Technische Universit?t M?NCHEN Germany 68 University of SHEFFIELD United Kingdom 69 NANYANG Technological University Singapore 70 University of NOTTINGHAM United Kingdom 71= UPPSALA University Sweden 71= DARTMOUTH College United States 73 University of ILLINOIS United States 74= EMORY University United States 74= University of YORK United Kingdom 76 University of ST ANDREWS United Kingdom 77= PURDUE University United States 77= University of PITTSBURGH United States 79 University of MARYLAND United States 80= University of SOUTHAMPTON United Kingdom 80= University of LEEDS United Kingdom 82 VANDERBILT University United States 83 University of GLASGOW United Kingdom 84 LEIDEN University Netherlands 85= FUDAN University China 85= CASE WESTERN RESERVE University United States 85= University of VIENNA Austria 88 QUEEN'S University Canada 89 UTRECHT University Netherlands 90= TOKYO Institute of Technology Japan 90= PENNSYLVANIA STATE University United States 92 RICE University United States 93= University of COPENHAGEN Denmark 93= University of MONTREAL Canada 95 University of ROCHESTER United States 96 University of CALIFORNIA, Davis United States 97= University of ALBERTA Canada 97= GEORGIA Institute of Technology United States 99 CARDIFF University United Kingdom 100 University of HELSINKI Finland 101 University of LIVERPOOL United Kingdom 102= GEORGETOWN University United States 102= National TAIWAN University Taiwan 102= TOHOKU University Japan 105 University of GENEVA Switzerland 106 LUND University Sweden 107 University of COLORADO United States 108 MCMASTER University Canada 109 DURHAM University United Kingdom 110 University of VIRGINIA United States 111 MAASTRICHT University Netherlands 112= University of WATERLOO Canada 112= NAGOYA University Japan 114= University of BASEL Switzerland 114= University of OTAGO New Zealand 114= University of AARHUS Denmark 117= Ecole Polytechnique F?d?rale de LAUSANNE... Switzerland 117= University of CALIFORNIA, Santa Barbara United States 119 University of SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA United States 120 OHIO STATE University United States 121 University of SUSSEX United Kingdom 122 TEXAS A&M University United States 123 Universit? Catholique de LOUVAIN (UCL) Belgium 124 University of GHENT Belgium 125 NANJING University China 126= University of WESTERN ONTARIO Canada 126= HUMBOLDT-Universit?t zu Berlin Germany 128 Hebrew University of JERUSALEM Israel 129 NEWCASTLE University, NEWCASTLE Upon Tyn... United Kingdom 130= Technical University of DENMARK Denmark 130= EINDHOVEN University of Technology Netherlands 132= Universit? Pierre-et-Marie-Curie - PARIS... France 132= KOREA Advanced Institute of Science & Te... Korea, South 134 University of ARIZONA United States 135 University of FLORIDA United States 136 KYUSHU University Japan 137= University of ABERDEEN United Kingdom 137= INDIANA University Bloomington United States 139 SIMON FRASER University Canada 140= University of ZURICH Switzerland 140= University of CALIFORNIA, Irvine United States 142= Universit?t T?BINGEN Germany 142= University of MINNESOTA United States 144 Universit?t FREIBURG Germany 145 University of BATH United Kingdom 146 Freie Universit?t BERLIN Germany 147 University of LANCASTER United Kingdom 148 WAGENINGEN University Netherlands 149= CITY University of Hong Kong Hong Kong 149= Queen Mary, University of LONDON United Kingdom 151= HOKKAIDO University Japan 151= University of NORTH CAROLINA United States 151= TEL AVIV University Israel 154 Universit? Libre de BRUXELLES (ULB) Belgium 155= University of Science and Technology of ... China 155= University of NOTRE DAME United States 157 Ecole Normale Sup?rieure de LYON France 158 CRANFIELD University United Kingdom 159= MICHIGAN STATE University United States 159= TUFTS University United States 161= KEIO University Japan 161= WASHINGTON University in St. Louis United States 163= SHANGHAI JIAO TONG University China 163= ERASMUS University Rotterdam Netherlands 165 Universit?t STUTTGART Germany 166= University of CALGARY Canada 166= VIENNA University of Technology Austria 168= Universit?t G?TTINGEN Germany 168= MACQUARIE University Australia 170 HELSINKI University of Technology - TKK Finland 171= Universit?t KARLSRUHE Germany 171= University of DUNDEE United Kingdom 173= University of BOLOGNA Italy 173= University of GRONINGEN Netherlands 175= University of SAO PAULO Brazil 175= University of MASSACHUSETTS, Amherst United States 177= RUTGERS, The State University of New Jer... United States 177= University of CAMPINAS (Unicamp) Brazil 177= University College DUBLIN Ireland 180= WASEDA University Japan 180= University of READING United Kingdom 182 Rheinisch-Westf?lische Technische Hochsc... Germany 183 Universit? degli Studi di ROMA - La Sapi... Italy 184 Universit? Louis Pasteur - STRASBOURG I France 185= University of TWENTE Netherlands 185= University of LEICESTER United Kingdom 187 University of ANTWERP Belgium 188= University of CANTERBURY New Zealand 188= University of OSLO Norway 190 University of SURREY United Kingdom 191 RENSSELAER Polytechnic Institute United States 192= KTH, ROYAL Institute of Technology Sweden 192= Universidad Nacional Aut?noma de M?xico ... Mexico 194 University of BARCELONA Spain 195= QUEENSLAND University of Technology Australia 195= Radboud Universiteit NIJMEGEN Netherlands 197= CHALMERS University of Technology Sweden 197= KOBE University Japan 199 University of WOLLONGONG Australia 200= RMIT University Australia 200= University of CAPE TOWN South Africa 202 University of MIAMI United States 203= WAKE FOREST University United States 203= Technische Universit?t BERLIN Germany 205= QUEEN'S University of Belfast United Kingdom 205= LA TROBE University Australia 207 University of IOWA United States 208 BRANDEIS University United States 209= University of TSUKUBA Japan 209= Universit?t FRANKFURT am Main Germany 209= ZHEJIANG University China 212 HIROSHIMA University Japan 213 University of VICTORIA Canada 214 University of BERN Switzerland 215 University of NEWCASTLE Australia 216 Universit?t HAMBURG Germany 217 University of LAUSANNE Switzerland 218 TULANE University United States 219 University of CINCINNATI United States 220 University of EXETER United Kingdom 221= DALHOUSIE University Canada 221= ARIZONA STATE University United States 223 CHULALONGKORN University Thailand 224 STONY BROOK University United States 225= University of INNSBRUCK Austria 225= University of BERGEN Norway 227= OTTAWA University Canada 227= Sciences Po PARIS France 229= Vrije University BRUSSELS (VUB) Belgium 229= GEORGE WASHINGTON University United States 231= Lomonosov MOSCOW STATE University Russia 231= TECHNION - Israel Institute of Technolog... Israel 233 POHANG University of Science and Technol... Korea, South 234 VICTORIA University of Wellington New Zealand 235 CURTIN University of Technology Australia 236 YONSEI University Korea, South 237= University of TURKU Finland 237= LOUGHBOROUGH University United Kingdom 239= Technische Universit?t DARMSTADT Germany 239= Pontificia Universidad Cat?lica de CHILE... Chile 239= SAINT-PETERSBURG State University Russia 242 MASSEY University New Zealand 243= School of Oriental and African Studies, ... United Kingdom 243= KOREA University Korea, South 243= Technische Universit?t DRESDEN Germany 246= STOCKHOLM University Sweden 246= Universiti MALAYA (UM) Malaysia 248= University of ATHENS Greece 248= NORTH CAROLINA STATE University United States 248= YORK University Canada 248= Virginia Polytechnic Institute (VIRGINIA... United States 252 University of STRATHCLYDE United Kingdom 253 FLORIDA STATE University United States 254 University of DELHI India 255 University of HAWAII United States 256= The HONG KONG Polytechnic University Hong Kong 256= DREXEL University United States 258 Universidad Aut?noma de BARCELONA Spain 259= University of Technology, SYDNEY Australia 259= University of CALIFORNIA, Santa Cruz United States 261 University of UTAH United States 262 University of LIEGE Belgium 263 Universit?t ULM Germany 264= University of TASMANIA Australia 264= University of BUENOS AIRES Argentina 266 ASTON University United Kingdom 267= KUOPIO University Finland 267= Universit? Paris-Sud, PARIS XI France 269 Indian Institute of Technology Bombay (I... India 270= Universit?t ERLANGEN-N?RNBERG Germany 270= Universit?t W?RZBURG Germany 272 University of ESSEX United Kingdom 273= STOCKHOLM School of Economics Sweden 273= NAGASAKI University Japan 275 Universit? Joseph-Fourier, GRENOBLE I France 276= IOWA STATE University United States 276= Rheinische Friedrich-Wilhelms-Universit?... Germany 276= G?teborg University Sweden 279 Karl-Franzens-University GRAZ Austria 280 LAVAL University Canada 281 University of KANSAS United States 282= University of the WITWATERSRAND South Africa 282= University of ALABAMA United States 284= CHIBA University Japan 284= MAHIDOL University Thailand 286= University College CORK Ireland 286= BEN GURION University of the Negev Israel 286= WASHINGTON STATE University United States 289 University of TENNESSEE United States 290 CHARLES University Czech Republic 291 University of SOUTH AUSTRALIA Australia 292= Universit?t LEIPZIG Germany 292= University of TROMSO Norway 292= BRUNEL University United Kingdom 295= Universit? Paris-Sorbonne (PARIS IV) France 295= University of GEORGIA United States 297 Universit?t BAYREUTH Germany 298 University of CALIFORNIA, Riverside United States 299 UME? University Sweden 300 DUBLIN City University Ireland 301= University of MONTPELLIER II - Sciences ... France 301= NORWEGIAN University of Science and Tech... Norway 303 College of WILLIAM & MARY United States 304= Vrije Universiteit AMSTERDAM Netherlands 304= University of MANITOBA Canada 306 Universidad Aut?noma de MADRID Spain 307= Universiti Sains MALAYSIA (USM) Malaysia 307= Indian Institute of Technology Delhi (II... India 309= Universiti Kebangsaan MALAYSIA (UKM) Malaysia 309= GRIFFITH University Australia 311 Universit?t KONSTANZ Germany 312= Universit?t BIELEFELD Germany 312= Universidad de CHILE Chile 312= University of PADUA Italy 312= Universit?t D?SSELDORF Germany 316 Universit?t JENA Germany 317 University of SOUTHERN DENMARK Denmark 318 SHOWA University Japan 319= University of WAIKATO New Zealand 319= University of TAMPERE Finland 319= University of COIMBRA Portugal 319= University of Cologne Germany 319= University of NAVARRA Spain 324 TIANJIN University China 325 University of PISA Italy 326 COLORADO STATE University United States 327 WHU Otto Beisheim School of Management -... Germany 328 University of CONNECTICUT United States 329 University of FLORENCE Italy 330 Johannes Gutenberg University MAINZ Germany 331= JAGIELLONIAN University Poland 331= GUNMA University Japan 333 Ruhr-Universit?t BOCHUM Germany 334 National TSING HUA University Taiwan 335 TOKYO Metropolitan University Japan 336= National CHENG KUNG University Taiwan 336= University of QUEBEC Canada 338 Federal University of RIO DE JANEIRO Brazil 339= Universitat POMPEU FABRA Spain 339= University of M?NSTER Germany 341= Universit?t MARBURG Germany 341= Universidade Nova de LISBOA Portugal 343= Politecnico di MILANO Italy 343= University of DELAWARE United States 345= GIFU University Japan 345= WARSAW University Poland 345= SAARLAND University Germany 345= CARLETON University Canada 349 University of BRADFORD United Kingdom 350 LOYOLA University Chicago United States 351= University of OREGON United States 351= FLINDERS University Australia 351= DUBLIN Institute of Technology Ireland 354= YOKOHAMA NATIONAL University Japan 354= University of OULU Finland 356= National Technical University of ATHENS Greece 356= University of EAST Anglia (UEA) United Kingdom 358= City University of NEW YORK United States 358= University of NEW MEXICO United States 360= Universitas GADJAH MADA Indonesia 360= University of TOULOUSE III - Paul Sabati... France 362= University of ST GALLEN Switzerland 362= University of SOUTH CAROLINA United States 364= Universiti Putra MALAYSIA (UPM) Malaysia 364= Science University TOKYO Japan 364= Universit?t BREMEN Germany 364= OSAKA CITY University Japan 368 Johannes Kepler University LINZ Austria 369= Universit? PARIS I - Panth?on Sorbonne France 369= BANDUNG Institute of Technology Indonesia 371= WARSAW University of Technology Poland 371= LINK?PING University Sweden 373 University of OKLAHOMA United States 374= DEAKIN University Australia 374= University of JYV?SKYL? Finland 374= University of TRIESTE Italy 377 OKAYAMA University Japan 378= Universit?t REGENSBURG Germany 378= University of KENTUCKY United States 380 SUNG KYUN KWAN University Korea, South 381= YESHIVA University United States 381= University of MISSOURI United States 383= Leibniz Universit?t HANNOVER Germany 383= CONCORDIA University Canada 383= Technische Universit?t BRAUNSCHWEIG Germany 386= NORTHEASTERN University United States 386= KUMAMOTO University Japan 388= Universit? degli Studi di PAVIA Italy 388= Christian-Albrechts-Universit?t zu KIEL Germany 390 ISTANBUL Technical University Turkey 391 Universit? PARIS V - Descartes France 392 Universit?t MANNHEIM Germany 393 Universitat de VALENCIA Spain 394 University of SIENA Italy 395 University of INDONESIA Indonesia 396= GEORGIA STATE University United States 396= Martin-Luther-Universit?t HALLE-WITTENBE... Germany 398= University of the PHILIPPINES Philippines 398= National CENTRAL University Taiwan 398= SOGANG University Korea, South
Source: THES ? QS World University Rankings ? Quacquarelli Symonds 2004 - 2007 Click here for copyright and limitations on use.
Edited by Mthakathi27 (02/22/08 08:58 PM)
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#36363 - 02/22/08 11:18 PM
Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game
[Re: Mthakathi27]
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Nkosi
 
Registered: 04/27/03
Posts: 1399
Loc: New York, New York, USA
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Bafowethu.
I JUST GOT WORD FROM ONE OF OUR AGENTS IN SOUTH AFRIKA. THIS AGENT IS A SOUTH AFRIKAN BY ORIGIN AND BIRTH. KULABANTU ABACHAPHA UMNGCWELE AND CLAIMED THEMSELVES TO BE NDEBELE WHEN THEY GOT TO SOUTH AFRIKA, USING NAMES FROM MTHWAKAZI TERRITORIES AND YET THIS AGENT SAYS WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUES PERTAINING TO MTHWAKAZI, THEY DO NOT SPEAK LIKE US. I HAVE BEEN AT PAINS TO EXPLAIN TO THIS GUY WHAT THE SHORT SLEECES ARE LIKE. ANGITSHO LIYABONA ABANYE BAZITHI BANGU MTHWAKAZI and THEN THEY TURN AROUND AND USE THE SAME LANGUAGE THEY HAVE USED TO GAGE HOW FAR THEIR 1979 GRAND PLAN HAS GONE. THEY USE PERFECT ZULU. THEY DO NOT USE ISINDEBELE. THEY CLAIM TO KNOW OUR HISTORY, BUT THEY DO NOT LIVE BY IT.
I ALSO GOT INFORMATION FROM A FRIEND IN CANADA, SHE IS ALSO A CITIZEN OF CANADA. SOME PEOPLE HAVE USED NDEBELE NAMES TO GET ASYLUM AN CANADA. SHE HOWEVER SAYS WHEN SHE ASKS THEM ABOUT MTHWAKAZI, THEY SPEAK DIFFERENTLY FROM US. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN BY DIFFERENTLY.
THIS CANADIAN FRIEND IS IN THE IMMIGRATION DEPARTMENT. I HAVE EXPLAINED A LOT OF THINGS TO HER, AND SHE DOES NOT MIND ME TELLING THIS HERE. AMASHONA ANGENA ENGO SIBANDA, SHAMASE, NDOU, NKALA etc e CANADA. SEBESIDLA ILIFA LETHU BONA BEBHIZI BESIBULALA LAPHA. THE GRAND PLAN HAS IT THAT IT WILL DESTRY THE EDUCATION IN MTHWAKAZI. NOW THE SHORT SLEEVES ARE TELLING US ON OUR FACES THAT WE ARE DULL.
Let us penetrate the communities in which we live and explain WHO WE ARE, and let them know that anyone else is an IMPOSTER.
Li Zwangendaba.
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#36366 - 02/23/08 12:49 AM
Re: for sure politcs is a dirty game
[Re: Zwangendaba]
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Ndunankulu
Registered: 02/27/02
Posts: 632
Loc: The Republic of Mthwakazi
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I think the problem elapha is that some people(and not all) who are not in the so called Diaspora have an inferiority complex. That complex is a trigger factor for this senseless attack on those who are in the Diaspora like Brian Ngwenya. For them it is a boxing match against those in the Diaspora in a bid to prove they are better than those overseas. This is very sad.
The most pleasing thing is that there are people abafundileyo lapha eDiaspora or who are studying in the well to do universities who are going about their business bethule without ranting and raving to the world bethi bafundile kulabanye.Such rants and ravs are indeed an exercise in futility!
If one looks at the world rankings of these universities, one will realise that ekaMgaxa wansondo lena kayikho kwi-ma-World rankings lana. So where is it? Is it in some back street yard somewhere in Africa or to be precise in Mashonaland? hk hk hk hk
Edited by SINATHAMAHEWU (02/23/08 12:57 AM)
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