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#41560 - 01/05/09 12:55 PM Abetshabi bayaqhubeka ngenzondo!!!
bongani Offline
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Registered: 10/10/03
Posts: 200
Loc: Afrika
Bengicela ukubuza ukuthi bakhona yini lana abasebebone idocument yabetshabi entsha Grand plan 2. Angikaze ngibone inzondo enje madoda njalo nepropaganda abaphushayo, ngibonile ukuthi vele abetshabi bangcolile abasithandi. Bengicela onayo leyo document to post it on here so that uMthwakazi wonke jikelele abekwazi ukuthi isitha sicabanga kanjani.

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#41572 - 01/05/09 05:37 PM Re: Abetshabi bayaqhubeka ngenzondo!!! [Re: bongani]
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Registered: 06/14/08
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abetshabi should always hates us!!we are a shadow of ourselves, our ancestors will be shocked(if they have not been for the past 21years) to discover that the tide has turned to the tshabian side- seemingly forever!!

the NDEBELE nation is now full of cowards, sellouts, idiots and cybber warriors!!


Edited by mpumelelo101 (01/05/09 05:39 PM)
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#41582 - 01/06/09 12:10 AM Re: Abetshabi bayaqhubeka ngenzondo!!! [Re: mpumelelo101]
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Registered: 07/30/08
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Loc: south africa
Mpume musukulahleka lawe esiNdebeleni akula magwala mfo unless wena nxa uyilo,these are people abancindezelwayo abaphetheyo they were bribed kodwa balaso isibindi ngoba basi fulathela isizwe sakubo.
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#41623 - 01/07/09 05:53 PM Re: Abetshabi bayaqhubeka ngenzondo!!! [Re: bongani]
dingane Offline
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Registered: 05/08/06
Posts: 25
Loc: Khanada
Bongani,
Mina ngiyibonile idocument okhuluma ngayo. Ayingidanisanga kakhulu ngoba iphethe izinto esihlala sikhuluma ngazo eNkundleni. Into esuka ingidangalise kakhulu yikuthi ungakhangela ezinye izinto ezimumethikileyo uzathola ukuthi abanye bethu la eNkundleni bavumelana lazo. Izinto ezinjengo kuphikisana lenombolo zabantu ababulawa yi5th bridgade. Angifuni ukuba qamba ngamabizo ngoba sesibazi ukuthi basebenzela bani. Ngakho-ke Mthwakazi omuhle sengivuleke amehlo ngoba uMthwakazi ugcwele abathengisi labadla leZanu. Kumandoda avuselela uMthwakazi ngithi malinanzele kodwa lingekeli ukuyaphambili ngoba umkhulu lomsebenzi.
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#41650 - 01/09/09 02:19 PM Re: Abetshabi bayaqhubeka ngenzondo!!! [Re: mg_d]
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Registered: 10/17/03
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Loc: Jozi
Ceda amanengi uyiposite kulinkundla uma unayo mfowethu noma ukhombise lapho engatholakala khona.

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#41652 - 01/09/09 08:54 PM Re: Abetshabi bayaqhubeka ngenzondo!!! [Re: waMalikongwa]
dingane Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 05/08/06
Posts: 25
Loc: Khanada
Nansi iphepha laku qala:
Confidential Shona Series 2 - Vatakati
Vatakati
Varoyi, mandevere atanga manje. They have revived party yema dissident called PF-ZAPU, led by Dumiso Dabengwa and they are planning a massive onslaught on our people, code named "Operation Gundwane." They are assembling an army of militia men in South Africa funded via people in the Diaspora, led by Jekiseni Gundwan'alidliwa Ndlovu. They say they want to revenge for Gukurahundi. they are even threatening kuti as soon as Mugabe leaves state house, they will devide the country by taking the Midlands and both matabeleland provinces to form a new country called Sena-Mthwakazi (isisu we say Sena-Mutakati). they are using online newspapers to discredit Chedu Chematama Morgan Tsvangirai calling him Savimbi in an effort to promote Thokozani Khuphe to MDC presidency.
This is an extremely confidential document only for the eyes and ears of the lovely people of Mashonaland, Masvingo and Manicaland. Make sure that you are not seen by any mundevere reading this. do not leave it lying around for you don't know who might have access to it. if your wife is Sena-Mutakati (kuvaroyi) make sure her brother don't enter your house. If your husband is a Mutakati, destroy this document immediately after reading it and look out for your life. Obviously we prefer if you leave and come back home, but we have no power to force.
this document details the danger we are facing from these dissidents. It also looks at the options we have as a peace loving people.
Background
First we have to look at the history of the issue and the authenticity of what these dogs are planning. Ndebeles are power hungry and will kill to be in power. this can be traced back to their origins. Mzilikazi tried a coup on shaka Zulu and failed. he then stole cattle and women from and ran away to Zimbabwe. This is our country from long ago. We lived peacefully with our neighbours until these people came and decided to kill us. Mzilikazi took over the area occuppied by Lemba, Kalanga and others (called hole in African Heritage).The Ndebele Impis massacred our people and tried to take our land. They met resistance when they got to Mashonaland proper because our forefathers had more superior spiritual power. Sekuru Chaminuka, Mbuya Nehanda are a case in point. So they went back with their tails underneath them and settled with sell-out Mambo who had been overthrown in Masvingo and Lemba who changed their names to Ndlovu.
Shiri inemuririwo wayo hayiwurege. The Ndebele continued to raid our area for women and cattle. all the beatiful women you see came from Mashonaland. They practised terrorism until the white came. the Ndebele under Lobengula sold our country. Lobengula was given a teaspoon of sugar and he signed Zimbabwe off. The Ndebeles never fought. They called the Whites to colonise them hoping to get more sugar. The Shona fought in the first Chimurenga but whites were helped by the Ndebele to defeat us. So you see it was the sell-out and greedy Ndebeles who made us a colony.


Edited by dingane (01/09/09 08:57 PM)
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#41653 - 01/09/09 10:25 PM Re: Abetshabi bayaqhubeka ngenzondo!!! [Re: dingane]
dingane Offline
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Registered: 05/08/06
Posts: 25
Loc: Khanada
Nansi bafethu idocument part 2 and 3. If this is not hatred and tribalism then I don't know...
Confidential Shona Series 2 - Vatakati

War of liberation and ZANU

ZAPU was formed by the power hungry Nkomo(wedumbu guru). All he wanted was to fly around the world. Shona leaders wanted the country to be liberated but Nkomo said no. We then broke away to form ZANU PF and ZANLA forces. Our forces then won the war by defeating the Rhodesian forces. ZIPRA forces meanwhile just statyed in the refugee camps in Zambia and never came out to fight. When they brealized that the ZANLA forces were winning the war, they kept weapons givens to them and started planning to overthrow Mugabe as soon as independence was achieved.

Lancaster House Conference

Out of being nice, the Shona invited Nkomo and his people to join in the Lancaster House conference. Being power hungry, Nkomo tried to take over again under the Patriotic Front. Our leaders saw his deeds and refused. Elections were held and ZANU PF rightfully won as the people of Zimbabwe voted overhelmingly for the party that had fought the war.
Gukurahundi
A lot of lies have been said about Gukurahundi. Yes it is true there were problems in the early 1980s. They started it and got what they deserved.
Firstly the Ndebele are lying to say 20 000 innocent civilians died. There is no evidence to that. These are fabricated figures. Let them prove how they got to that number. Where are the mass graves? The grave we were shown by the Catholic Commission are those from the War of liberation against the Rhodesian forces. Gukurahundi only targeted dissidents like Gwesela and Gayigusvu. These were dangeraous people who wanted to overthrow a democratically elected government.
remember they started planning the coup when they were still in Zambia. So they got trainloads of weapons of mass destruction and transported to Zimbabwe. They started shooting at ZANLA forces at a Bulawayo camp called Entumbabe. They went into the locations and stared killing our people who were helping them. (Ndebeles had no professionals like teachers and nurses so we sent some of our people to Bulawayo to help them.) They continued to do this until the government was forced to react to maintain law and order.
Nkomo thought he was going to succed in overthrowing the government and left the unity government (he was Minister of Home Affairs courtesy of Bob). They had underestimated us. the main planners like Dabengwa and Masuku were arrested Gukurahundi was deployed. They were well behaved and contrary to what is bieng said did not touch any innocent civilians. the chronicle under the editorship of Nyarota covered the trouble and there is no evidence of any civilians being killed. So you see, they are lying, it is just an excuse to kill us.
the international community has done well not to listen to these dogs. They all know it is not true. that is whay they do not have support.

Operation Gundwane

take this very seriously. They stared training militia sometime ago. They are getting readyy to massacre us. We have to be ready too. We have to act quickly. You will remeber those horrible "xenophobia" attacks in South Africa. That had nothing to do with South Africans. It was Vatakati killing and burning our people. why do you think it was only the Shona who were targetted? that was the beginning of the revenge mission.
the second stage was to revive their dissident party ZAPU to have a political voice. They have been funding events in the Diaspora led by some JG Ndlovu. Dabengwa and Jekiseni are dangerous people. We need to deal with them. They want to eliminate us as a people. They are planning ethnic cleaning in Matabeleland and Midlands. They are claiming that they wrere a separate nation before colonisation. History indicates that Mzilikazi declared a kingdom called Mthwakazi. It is not clear why they call it Sena-Mthwakazi.
The third stage is to topple Tsvangirai and put Khuphe as President. This will enable them to declare the State of Sena-Mthwakazi and she will sign. So Khuphe needs to be stopped. She must be replaced by Chamisa or Biti with delay.

Simukai

We must stand up as a people. we can not allow these dissidents to have their way. We defeated them before and we can do it again.
We can do this in many one of the ways. In the workplaces, make sure they don't get jobs or promotion. Fustrate them into leaving , so their families will die of hunger.
in colleges, schools and universities, make sure they do not get places. Period. Let them remain illiterate.
Monitor those in the army and police and keep all keys to weapons away from them . Preferably, arrest them and lock them up.
Educate our people and tell them to be on guard.
If they form a new country, we must attack them and take over, and drive them back to South Africa once and and for all.
If anyone talks to you about Gukurahundi, dispute the 20 000 figure and ask for evidence.
If you work in hospitals you know what to do. You have access to injections and drugs that can do the job.

Mukarara tinopera!!!
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#41654 - 01/10/09 12:37 PM Re: Abetshabi bayaqhubeka ngenzondo!!! [Re: dingane]
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Registered: 12/27/08
Posts: 50
Loc: kwamthwakazi
to be honest, mugabe is fabricating lies and thats the only thing he is good at, the fact that they are trying to make their evil plans to stay in power as they pray and worship mugabe is driving them insane. As i suggested b4 to bring as many as elite ndebeles to this forum and do much renovation and help our own and do good , frankly, GOD will hear the words of our mouth---the rest is history. surely the DOCUMENT IS just a vomit , mixed with dog poo then eaten by them shonas inturn they think we will be interested ....ooppps sory... let them eat it.. its their shit!

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#41665 - 01/10/09 10:14 PM Re: Abetshabi bayaqhubeka ngenzondo!!! [Re: dingane]
mg_d Offline
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Registered: 07/30/08
Posts: 155
Loc: south africa
is this some kind of a joke or what? mfethu who is the writer of this bull***t (sorry) its just that i don`t know how to react to this or .kodwa empeleni this is true or what? gents if this is real i don`t see myself in any day ngixolela amaswina.
Dingane where didi you get thi document? madoda this is madness ngekesidelelwe yizinja lezi sivule amahlo never ontop of what these dogs did kukhona abasakhuluma like this i wonder who are those tshona leaders he is talking about because there are no leaders esitshoneni there killers who wre after defenceless people of uMthwakazi and kids and there are the last cowards of every creature i know in this world ,i wish ican meet the person who wrote this shit i`ll pop out his eyes with a very hot wire jeez yiubunja lobu okuyizinja konke okula enkundleni okungamatshona akuphume okuyimigodoyi lokhu.
these things doesn`t know anything about war angikhulumi ngokuthi bathi they liberated the country i don`t remember any day where they won a war in their history lezi zinto ebezithwala imibhobho eyokwethusela izalikazi lamaxhegeu eyayidubula ngendlubu namhlanje kuclaima ukuthi yikho okwa khulula izimbabwe. bafethu this thing iyanginyanyisa okokugcina ngci, thi is the time to stnd up sibonakale madoda, makunje kungangcono sibuyele egangeni siyoqedelela lapho ibhudi bethu abacina khona.


Edited by mg_d (01/10/09 10:15 PM)
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#41667 - 01/11/09 09:11 AM Re: Abetshabi bayaqhubeka ngenzondo!!! [Re: mg_d]
Thabo70 Offline
Sakhamuzi

Registered: 03/27/08
Posts: 50
Loc: Norfolk
Any unreasoning person with a sick mind is instilling hatred in people. The person can be a Mthwakazian or Shona. The bottom line is that, if you hear or read such documents think and ask yourself, what purpose does it serve? Is it helpful to you or other people? Critical thinkers and reflectors will think twice before taking a side when it comes tribal issues. Tribalism does not help or benefit anybody. Hatred and tribalism is any enemy of human race and is promoted by people who are socially sick.
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