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#546 - 07/14/04 03:02 PM Re: OH!!! Lafa Elihle!!!!
Lobengula Offline
Nkosi
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Registered: 09/16/03
Posts: 1077
Loc: Tsholotsho
Ngempela longumhlola ongahlekisa ngitsho lohlanya lucatshile. UMgabe ngumthakathi wezigodo.
Bafowethu sokufanele siyekele ukuthenga amakhanda ama lorry sithenge zona inqola lezi? Hatshi okunje angizange ngakubona ngifunga uMzilikazi.

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#547 - 07/14/04 03:47 PM Re: OH!!! Lafa Elihle!!!!
Potshoza Offline
Nduna

Registered: 08/20/01
Posts: 481
Loc: Leamington Spa
Ilizwe lamaNdebele elibuswa ngamaNdebele libuse amaNdebele yilo lodwa eliza qeda ubulema lobu....

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#548 - 07/14/04 07:45 PM Re: OH!!! Lafa Elihle!!!!
Ndabezitha Offline
Sikhulu

Registered: 11/07/03
Posts: 268
Loc: T.O
Potshozaq liqiniso lelo

kodwa kungani uzithi ungu Cde, lelo lagama alisela sisindo ngoba seligcotshwe nge ZANU ka Mgodoyi....... asazi njalo

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#549 - 07/15/04 08:16 AM Re: OH!!! Lafa Elihle!!!!
Muntongenakudla Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 649
Loc: Mtubatuba
Ndabezitha

Wabuza into ecace kuhle kwengquza yembuzi!

Mfowethu o-Cde amakhomanisi (Commnunists). From time immemorial Communism has been synonymous with tyranny, megalomania and despotism. Communists brook no opposition or different opinion to them. They liquidate their opponents. Just look at Trotsky, Stalin,Mao (The Chairman),Fidel Castro,Mengistu, Nyerere, Kaunda and last but not least, the mongrel himself, Cde Mgodoyi.

Communists worry about power and will go to any lengths and breadth to consolidate it. All the Communist states are in abject poverty because pluralism and liberalism is anathema to them. Lobububha ngeke bakubugweme ngoba bagqugquzela ubukhwabanisi ukuze kusimame ubundlavini babo! Bona bakhomba ngophakathi embusweni, uquqaba ludla imbuya ngothi!

Therefore anyone and anywhere who subcribes to the Communist philosophy and calls themselves Cde, espouses dictatorship, tyranny and gagging freedom of speech. They descend on you like hell if you advance a different perspective to them. Do I have a witness?

Kusukela sisakhula thina ngo-1980s to manje, besazi kahle ukuthi oCde abantu beZANU. Sinjenje ngobubha, yibona oCde laba.

uMntongenakudla kaNgogwane waKwaDlangezwa.
Inkwali yenkosi.

Inxangiphilile.
KwaMtubatuba.
KwelikaMthaniya.

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#550 - 07/15/04 09:17 AM Re: OH!!! Lafa Elihle!!!!
Potshoza Offline
Nduna

Registered: 08/20/01
Posts: 481
Loc: Leamington Spa
Once again, we have not been spared from our daily dose of mischievous nonsense. Anyway, here are some explanations of the meaning and origins and etymology of the word Comrade. Make up your minds which one best describes this Cde if, unlike the mischief maker, you have not already done so.

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Comrade
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  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A person who shares one's interests or activities; a friend or companion.</font></li>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Comrade A fellow member of a group, especially a fellow member of the Communist Party.</font></li>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Camarade, from Old French, roommate, from Old Spanish camarada, barracks company, roommate, from camara, room, from Late Latin camera.</font></li>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">comrade?ship n. Word History: A comrade can be socially or politically close, a closeness that is found at the etymological heart of the word comrade. In Spanish the Latin word camara, with its Late Latin meaning ?chamber, room,? was retained, and the derivative camarada, with the sense ?roommates, especially barrack mates,? was formed. Camarada then came to have the general sense ?companion.?</font></li>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">English borrowed the word from Spanish and French, English comrade being first recorded in the 16th century. The political sense of comrade, now associated with Communism, had its origin in the late-19th-century use of the word as a title by socialists and communists in order to avoid such forms of address as mister. This usage, which originated during the French Revolution, is first recorded in English in 1884.</font></li>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">n 1: a person who is frequently in the company of another; "drinking companions"; "comrades in arms" [syn: companion, fellow, familiar, associate] 2: a fellow member of the Communist Party [syn: Comrade] 3: used as a term of address for those male persons engaged in the same movement; "Greetings, comrade!" [syn: brother]</font></li>
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And turned my flying comrades to the charge. --J. Baillie.

I abjure all roofs, and choose . . . To be a comrade with the wolf and owl. --Shak.

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#551 - 07/15/04 11:34 AM Re: OH!!! Lafa Elihle!!!!
Lobengula Offline
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Loc: Tsholotsho
Kanti bona oMgabe kuze kuthiwe ngo Cde kwakutheni njengoba izenzo zabo zikhomba sobala ukuthi azihambelani lalokhu okubhalwe ngumfowethu uPotshoza? Abantu abafana labo Chairman Mao, Cde Stalin, Cde Mengistu Mariam waseThopiya kunye labo Cde Castro ngamajaha akhanya alobudlelwano kweze idiyologi yobukhomanisi. OMgabe bona umsebenzi wabo ngowokubulala lokuncindezela kuphela. Angiboni ukuthi bangena ngaphi kahle kahle.

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#552 - 07/15/04 03:37 PM Re: OH!!! Lafa Elihle!!!!
Ndabezitha Offline
Sikhulu

Registered: 11/07/03
Posts: 268
Loc: T.O
Lobs , wonke lawo madoda owaqambileyo yizigebenga, ezingcindezela/ ezazingcindezela abantu bakibo.....akula mehluko phakathi kwabo lo Mgodoyi. konke kokungakabathakathi kwezigodo...... e.g did you know that Mao used to exploit the young girls sexually & because he was the chairman noone oppossed him.

As for Mengistu you do not need to be told by me look for one person from his country they will literary cry if you ask them to give you an account of that bastard .....

hence anyone who uses the title Cde is not suppossed to be trusted. That title has been tainted by the evil man in this world as such Cde is Taboo. After all any Mthwakazian who ascrices to Communism is not a true child of Mthwakazi.

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#553 - 07/15/04 04:05 PM Re: OH!!! Lafa Elihle!!!!
Skuvethe Offline
Nduna

Registered: 10/23/03
Posts: 405
Loc: I've never been to Heaven
UMgaxa le Zanu bayilokhu okuthiwa yi "Fascists"

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#554 - 07/15/04 06:58 PM Re: OH!!! Lafa Elihle!!!!
SINATHAMAHEWU Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/27/02
Posts: 632
Loc: The Republic of Mthwakazi
Into eyenzakala ekhaya le ibuhlungu and it is a wake up call for all Ndebeles out there!

Instead of us focusing on Cde Potshoza's use of Cde akukho okungcono esingakuxoxa kumbe esingabuthanisa inhloko zethu ukuthi sikwenze?

You guys are getting personal? Is it some form of cheap policking of trying to settle a score with this chap?

Maybe he has, with bravado, in the past bruised some self inflated egos lapha enkundleni who think the best way of getting at him is to get personal ngegama alisebenzisayo.

Anyway let us get focused bakwethu sitshiye izinto zamadlwana lezi.

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#555 - 07/15/04 08:30 PM Re: OH!!! Lafa Elihle!!!!
Potshoza Offline
Nduna

Registered: 08/20/01
Posts: 481
Loc: Leamington Spa
Njengawe SINATHAMAHEWU, I don't know what to think about the direction certain people want to follow and the mechanism they want to employ to shoot down other peoples' arguments. It appears to me that people are now scrapping at the bottom of the barrel.

Ndabezitha it's fine for you not to bestow your trust upon people who use the title Cde as far as your judgement can take you. Since you use a title strictly reserved for a KING, I would trust you to exhibit the wisdom befitting of royalty. But I am afraid you have disappointed me on this occasion Ndabezitha.

The irony is killing me. We are living in a world where a few Islamic fundamentalists have committed some terrorism and all of a sudden, ISLAM is a "vicious wicked faith". Not to mention the fact that the democratic nation of the United States of America recently mourned the loss of Ronald Reagan who did the most to promote Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorist groups, using them to fight communism. We all know which block of the world provided help during our war of liberation against colonialist and hence the influence.

Similarly, the fundamental reasoning behind the title Comrade is being wrongfully inextricably linked with despotics. If we bothered to cast our nets far, we would also take note that the Pan Africanist ideology is linked to Zanu (PF) and has thus been abused. Just because some despotics have misused an ideology, it does not mean there are not any people who withold the fundamental principles behind it.

And whilest we are on the subject of titles, why don't we analyse the now commonly used title of Master, now pronounced Mister. It is obvious that the masses are happy to use this title.

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Mister

[Alteration of master.]

Master \Mas"ter\, n. [OE. maistre, maister, OF. maistre, mestre, F. ma[^i]tre,

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  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A male person having another living being so far subject to his will, that he can, in the main, control his or its actions; -- formerly used with much more extensive application than now.</font></li>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The employer of a servant.
    [*}The owner of a slave.</font></li>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The person to whom an apprentice is articled.</font></li>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A sovereign, prince, or feudal noble; a chief, or one exercising similar authority.</font></li>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The head of a household.</font></li>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The male head of a school or college.</font></li>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A male teacher.</font></li>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The director of a number of persons performing a ceremony or sharing a feast.</font></li>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The owner of a docile brute, -- especially a dog or horse.</font></li>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The controller of a familiar spirit or other supernatural being.</font></li>
  • <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">One who uses, or controls at will, anything inanimate; as, to be master of one's time.</font></li>
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It is therefore apparent why the communists did not hesitate to disassociate themselves from this title of Master. The communists sought to be equal, whereas the so called democrats, the colonialists and slave drivers did not. That's why they adopted the Comrade whose meaning is explained above.

I would like to reiterate that I am not necessarily a communist but I only seek to be an equal with those with whom I am on familiar terms.

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