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#6467 - 08/16/05 08:15 AM Re: Jonathan Moyo
nqojah Offline
Sakhamuzi

Registered: 06/07/04
Posts: 66
Loc: Dinyane
Sinathamahewu

lt is far much better to believe something which l have analytical survyed rather than believe in you trying to convice me otherwise, to which some of your ideas are drawn out form thin air.Third way cofuses you too much that you believe is followed by naive pple. This is utter nonsense and intended to muzzle curtail and destroy progressive movement.Third way is not being driven by rocket politician like you who is good in cyber politics. Percively it is mass movement from ordinary, simple and poor pple like me , not based someway near UK OR ELSE

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#6468 - 08/16/05 09:04 AM Re: Jonathan Moyo
Sgero Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 05/31/04
Posts: 643
Loc: United Kingdom
Nqoja

topi, it would be a folly on whoever's part (especially you) to take people abaku diaspora lightly. We are part of the simple men. Ukuba kwethu outside the country does not qualify us not to comment or express our fears nge Third Way. It is this kind of thinking that shows political immaturity on your part baba. Yiwo ama politics of divide and rule. Sufuna ukuhlukanisa ngokuthi abantu bangaphi. That is very wrong mnakwethu. You are unwittingly endorsing into yeQhude yokuthi singa voti yet imali yethu bayayifuna ngamehlo abomvu!!

Siza qhubeka sisenza i critical anaylsis of the Third Way and any other matter eqondane lo Mthwakazi kungakhethile ukuthi singaphi, ngithemba uzasivumela lathi.

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#6469 - 08/16/05 10:55 PM Re: Jonathan Moyo
Mabila Offline
Nkosi
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Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 2124
Loc: Ayowa
Nqojah!

Sichasisele ke wena oseduze loquqaba nge Third Way! Ivela ngaphi iyangaphi? Imumetheni? How do we participate? Ngichasisele njani umama lo dade ko Bulawayo nxa ngixoxa labo ocingwenui? Ngibatsheleni?
Danki Nqojah.

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#6470 - 08/16/05 12:11 PM Re: Jonathan Moyo
SINATHAMAHEWU Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/27/02
Posts: 632
Loc: The Republic of Mthwakazi
Cde Nqola,

There is something fundamentally disturbing about the way you have and continue to handle this Third Way issue that you happily introduced and invited the forumites to make their contributios/ideas ngendlela abayibona ngayo. In that invitation of yours you echoed these words below:

'Well as free man with a free will, l decided to angage uMthwakazi to delibarate about it.Lapha sesikhuluma ezangekhaya ezakhaya visa vis the third way wave'

And we have and continue to 'deliberate' the way we view it not the way you want us to view it and this then riles you and then you declare thus below:

'This is utter nonsense and intended to muzzle curtail and destroy progressive movement.Third way is not being driven by rocket politician like you who is good in cyber politics.'

In all fairness, were you not aware that you were asking those in what you call 'cyber space' to say what they think of the Third Way?

Your criticism of those who have views diametrically opposed to yours in this issue smarks of hypocrisy, twisted logic and confusion of the highest order. Why ask us to make contributions to your topic when you know that when some of us are going to say our opinions without fear or favour you will start screaming like a baby and get stark in accusationist politics?

You are certainly not a, 'free man with a free will' as you can not handle the criticism of the 'Third Way' concept. It boggles the mind that you want to personalise the criticism of this 'Third Way' concept and seemingly confuse it as an attack on your person. In retaliation you begin to play the messenger rather than the message and then all is lost on your part.

You invited us to say our views ngale indaba and we have just done that. If you thought we would ride on what you call 'this wave' like you, then tough luck. I however respect your love of this 'Third Way' but despise your lack of understanding of it and your shortcomings in explaining it to us and tell us how it is going to solve the Mthwakazi Question once and for all.

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#6471 - 08/16/05 05:00 PM Re: Jonathan Moyo
Ndumshy Offline
Sikhulu

Registered: 07/29/04
Posts: 201
Loc: Hillbrow Inn
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nqojah:
<strong> Sinathamahewu

Third way is not being driven by rocket politician like you who is good in cyber politics. Percively it is mass movement from ordinary, simple and poor pple like me , not based someway near UK OR ELSE </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Bhuti Nqojah
The third way is NOT a mass movement from ordinary, simple and poor like me and you, but a concept being proposed by some few suspect elitists to the ordinary, simple and poor pple like me and you. It is a misrepresentation of the known truth to try and paint a picture that it is not driven by the Nutty Prof and some elitists of his ilk. The other protagonist of this third way recently mouthed off ukuthi the problems in Mzimatshe can be best solved by Mgabe himself since he is the one who created them.
Simple people like me have no recourse but to question half-explained concepts born by suspect individuals, especially since we know ukuthi bazifunela a cheap ride to State House on our backs.

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#6472 - 08/16/05 06:39 PM Re: Jonathan Moyo
Sibambamahawu Offline
Ndunankulu
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Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 803
Loc: KwaGodlwayo
This Third Way will not succeed and if it does it won't be the right one for Mthwakazi. It is true that people are tired of ZAnu and MDC, but it is not true that this Third Way is people driven or people centric, it is a concept proposed by a few and Moyo is the leading protagonist for that matter. Firstly, this concept sees nothing wrong with Zanu pf, thus Moyo said, "the Third way will be creation of Zanu pf outside Zanu pf", he went on to cite examples such as what happened in Kenya and other countries. Currently there is no Shona who has come out and supported the idea, therefore if it is seen as Ndebele driven, no Shona will buy into this Third Way movement, we must face reality of our tribal relations. the supercede any good intentions we might dream in our beds, such as the Third Way. If it happens that Moyo leads the movement, then this will spell sure doom to the Third Way, as shonas hate him to the bone and they will never forgive him, for them it is easier to forgive Mr Mugabe than Moyo. If Moyo thinks that he could become the president of that country then he is dreaming big time. If the third way was advocated by prominent shona politicians i am sure it was going to succeed.

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#6473 - 08/16/05 09:55 PM Re: Jonathan Moyo
nomakanjani Offline
Ngqwele

Registered: 06/07/05
Posts: 105
Loc: Ng'khaya
ngqoya

bengithi wena njengosiwalu wezepolitiki ungangisiza mgomsuzwana lo elithunqisele ngawo omtshifana ukuze balivotele lokhanda wenu

zama ukuxoxa ungabhemanga umhlafutho engxenye ungezwakala ngoba uzwakala njegespeyithi esihwebule amagwebu i.e you are spluttering and stuttering trying to emulate ukhanda but unfortunately uzwakala angani yingemuva yakhe

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#6474 - 08/16/05 10:58 PM Re: Jonathan Moyo
mkhize ozikhizayo Offline
Nduna

Registered: 05/30/04
Posts: 349
Loc: Emaguswini
njengoba sisidla ipolitiki silale yona manje ithemba silibeke kuphi njengoba kungelamuntu ongasimela thina abakamthwakazi.? singathathi phakathi kukamthwakazi umuntu ongasimela thina abesintwini.

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#6475 - 08/16/05 11:01 PM Re: Jonathan Moyo
mkhize ozikhizayo Offline
Nduna

Registered: 05/30/04
Posts: 349
Loc: Emaguswini
thina okhabazela ma lingasinxusa empini sizohamba sigijima lamahawu lemikhonto ngoba sikwejayele.

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#6476 - 08/17/05 08:19 AM Re: Jonathan Moyo
nqojah Offline
Sakhamuzi

Registered: 06/07/04
Posts: 66
Loc: Dinyane
Sibambamahawu
Maybe you are well informed to tell us what is good for Mtwakazi since you are castigating every movement,Zpf mdc and so on, time is running our whilst dreaming about this being bad , dreaming about that being unfit for Mthwakazi. This is annoying and very discouraging notion. At times l stand to wonder if pple are real serious in life, l will always question other pple's tribe in this forum because they are continually dismantling the way forwad by being parochially saying this is not good , this is not fit, this and that is so and so and yet they fail to come up with alternative to the problem.

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