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#37 - 09/19/03 03:11 PM Re: Attention: Administrator
rev.lovejoy Offline
Sakhamuzi

Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 50
Loc: toronto
hey bakithi sicela lathi lisicacele phela ukuthi kuhamba njani lapho ,kanti uMdu ubhalela iphi iwebsite and futhi izithoimbe lezo zabantwana bakithi singazibona kuphi ,lathi mhlawumbe silezihlobo esezisemdlalweni onalowo ohluphileyo,linganceda shuwa bakithi

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#38 - 09/19/03 03:44 PM Re: Attention: Administrator
thrower Offline
Sakhamuzi

Registered: 03/26/03
Posts: 60
Loc: Blessed Land
Bakithi ngiyilandele inkulumo yenu sibili imnandi okwamagama,kodwa into engiphicayo kancane yikubana yindaba wena Baba Jazi lo Marcus lingavumelani layo into yokuba uma umuntu eyintatheli zindaba angavunyelwa ukwenza lokhu okwenziwa ngumfowethu uMdu.Mina ngibona kuyinto encomekayo kakhulu mfokaMathuthu ukubana iqiniso lifike ebantwinililokhu liliqiniso hatshi okwaboJonathan Moyo.Uma odade bengaziphathanga kumele umphakathi wazi, ngoba labasakhulayo bazalandela imikhuba yabodadewabo eluhlazo,yikho ngithi mfo Mdu utshaye inyoka esiswini sengathi ungayingqikila ekhanda futhi.

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#39 - 09/19/03 09:04 PM Re: Attention: Administrator
mdu Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 09/12/03
Posts: 17
Loc: Cardiff
Thrower and Rev Lovejoy

Thanks for the robust defence of the views of newzimbabwe.com. We are generally well-meaning people who have no intention to use other people to further our interests as the two gentleman have been suggesting.
I leave you with this quote from a story that we did about Jonathan Moyo, the context is spot-on:
?Peculiar people whose life is either behind them, or have no right to have one ahead of them, preach moralism in the name of our revolution,? Goebbels once said. ?This moralism often has nothing in common with true morality. They proclaim ethical laws that might be appropriate for a nunnery, but are entirely out of place in a modern cultural state.?

Goebbels had been piqued by a ?moral knight? who was campaigning against a soap advert showing a girl holding the soap to her private parts.
?The moral knight who unfortunately had the right to determine the fate of this poster forbade its distribution on the grounds that it offended the moral sensibilities of the population. What is moral about this? The immorality is in the person announcing the ban, who presumes that other people share his dirty fantasies!?

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#40 - 09/20/03 11:28 AM Re: Attention: Administrator
thrower Offline
Sakhamuzi

Registered: 03/26/03
Posts: 60
Loc: Blessed Land
What is the true meaning of the Ndebele word,Ngqwele,answer,is a little coward who scares other innocent law abiding parent fearing boys by acts of bullying in most cases pysicologists have discoverd that they are children of single parents.By the way who calls others bobantukazana and others Ngqwele in this forumn what a pity!.The other thing Mdu,the difference between any other forumn and newzimbabwe.com is the same difference there is in reading the Bulawayo chronicle and The Daily news.That leaves you with the ansewr why some people defend ponography and prostitution,simple they were educated through that.REALITY STRAIGHTTALK khonphaaa Mdu. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

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#41 - 09/20/03 05:26 PM Re: Attention: Administrator
nobhutshuzwayo Offline
Ngqwele

Registered: 09/03/01
Posts: 167
Loc: Bulawayo
was it really really necessary to post those pictures?? would your story have had a different impact had you not showed the pictures??? To me, that was very offensive and pornographic material which had no emergency reason to be there. The pictures were just good for the guys to drool over, but as a deterrent, i disagree. Those pictures might have actually aroused some sexual desires and achieved a completely different goal other than the one claimed by the author. If i want to discourage any one from engaging in sexual escapades, the last thing i'll show that person is pornographic material.

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#42 - 09/20/03 06:06 PM Re: Attention: Administrator
mdu Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 09/12/03
Posts: 17
Loc: Cardiff
nobhutshuzwayo

i am intrigued to learn that those pictures made you feel the way you did. but i refer you to the Goebbels quote above. meanwhile Dynamos just lost 2-1 to Sporting Lions, I don't know what that does to you.

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#43 - 09/20/03 07:34 PM Re: Attention: Administrator
Mtshede Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 08/02/02
Posts: 632
Loc: London
Mfowethu Mdu I am intrigued indeed by your reliance on no less a pervert and perverter of the truth than Goebbels to defend your use of dirty pictures.

I hope that you do not construct all your journalistic ethics on his pronouncements?

It was Goebbels who said </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> "A lie repeated
often enough becomes the truth." </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">and

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">"The great masses of people will more easily fall victims to a 'Big Lie' than a small one, if it is repeated often enough." </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Please Mdu.

Do not choose to believe and repeat the "truths" of a proud liar like Goebbels.

Either you will be seen as a liar, or a gullible fool who believes in lies.

I am not sure whether the reputation you will earn will assist the reputation of <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> www.nudezimbabwe.com <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> .

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#44 - 09/20/03 08:11 PM Re: Attention: Administrator
Mtshede Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 08/02/02
Posts: 632
Loc: London
Mfowethu Thrower I appreciate the concerns you raise about the title "Ngqwele".

Mfowethu I was told that the word actually means a chief among cattle herds and that this title was once applied to Zulu Shaka himself!

As an unassuming man I was a bit concerned the title made too much of me.

Mfowethu it was polite of you to offer a less polite meaning and for pointing out as a fellow guest at Inkundla what a rude host we have!

Mfowethu on a point of clarification is there really such a thing as a child of a single parent?

Is there any man or woman alive today who was not conceived by a mother and a father?

Even the aforesaid Ngqwele Shaka had a mother and a father.

Mfowethu it may be that you are an expert on this important sociological issue by virtue of growing up without knowing the name of your father.

But I want to reassure you this does not mean you had no father and were one of "the children of a single parent".

This would have been a biological impossibility.

I am sure even your mother possibly knew the name of your father.

If she did not, may I apologize for raising a hurtful issue, but since you threw open an unexpected door I simply walked through it.

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#45 - 09/21/03 12:29 PM Re: Attention: Administrator
mdu Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 09/12/03
Posts: 17
Loc: Cardiff
Marcus

I thought we were over with that matter but it appears you are a revisionist debater.
Joseph Goebbels lied just like everyone, including yourself. nothing unusual there.
and what is dirty about a picture? the dirt, as Goebbels said, is in the perverted mind of the 'moral knight' who in this case is Marcus.

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#46 - 09/21/03 03:54 PM Re: Attention: Administrator
Mtshede Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 08/02/02
Posts: 632
Loc: London
Ah, Mdu, it was you who revised the debate by introducing your ethical authority of Goebbels and therefore you who rely on lies.

I wish you the best of luck at nudezimbabwe.

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