IMITHI LOKUNOTHA

Posted by: mbaleki

IMITHI LOKUNOTHA - 10/13/08 08:21 AM

kanengi ezindaweni esihlala kuzo kumbe esikhulele kuzo kubakhona imndeni ethile okuthwa baphumelela ngomuthi kumbe ngabantu abafileyo,or mhlawumbe basonta into ezinjangabo Guta lezinye ezifanayo.Okungimangazayo yikuthi umuntu omnyama hasnt quite made a significant contribution to man kind in as far as science and technology is concerned but has somehow mastered the art of making snakes,mice,goblins and dead relatives make money for him.What realy drives umuntu to the extent of buying a snake or enlisting some other supernatural force to help enrich him,wena ngokwakho do you think you would ever get to the point of doing such?.While we are at it,we might as well as explore aba profiti abalamandla ayesabekayo,those who seem to do the seeemingly impossible,like the late Siziba owe luveve,people who went to him suddenly got prosperous,ababengazali baqala ukuzala,ababengatholi imisebenzi baqhatshwa,but when he died it all fell down,then there is the new Pumula south sensatio okuthwa ngu Ngwenya,apparently Jacob Zuma's sister was seen in Pumula south esiyacelela uJZ ukuthi abuse,and it looks like he is on course,my question is bawathathaphi amandla angaka oSiziba labo Ngwenya,lalezi inyanga?
Posted by: mpumelelo101

Re: IMITHI LOKUNOTHA - 10/13/08 11:43 AM

osiziba nabo ngwenya are african equivalents of "life coaches" and "consellors" who thrive on human's (imagined)fear and mental barriers, just like uku thelela "ngenyoka ende" is equivalent to irrigation, and ukushayisa umuntu ngombane is equivalent to "cloud seeding".after they "suddenly" got prosperous they had been mentally empowered which is what life coaches do.
about abantu "abanotha ngegazi", thats what their poor cousins console themselves with, imagining they will get their share in "heaven" after they had failed to creat a heaven on earth!!

are you aware of a certain bus company whose green buses are involved in fatal accidents every july?rumours began after one accident,that the owner used igazi, then every july abo driver sebetatazela bengazi ukuthi"ngekabani ezoginqika this year"which has resulted in more accidents. if he employs whites and services his buses i wouldn't be surprised if they stop happening
Posted by: dumas64

Re: IMITHI LOKUNOTHA - 10/13/08 08:10 PM

Originally Posted By: mbaleki
kanengi ezindaweni esihlala kuzo kumbe esikhulele kuzo kubakhona imndeni ethile okuthwa baphumelela ngomuthi kumbe ngabantu abafileyo,or mhlawumbe basonta into ezinjangabo Guta lezinye ezifanayo.Okungimangazayo yikuthi umuntu omnyama hasnt quite made a significant contribution to man kind in as far as science and technology is concerned but has somehow mastered the art of making snakes,mice,goblins and dead relatives make money for him.What realy drives umuntu to the extent of buying a snake or enlisting some other supernatural force to help enrich him,wena ngokwakho do you think you would ever get to the point of doing such?.While we are at it,we might as well as explore aba profiti abalamandla ayesabekayo,those who seem to do the seeemingly impossible,like the late Siziba owe luveve,people who went to him suddenly got prosperous,ababengazali baqala ukuzala,ababengatholi imisebenzi baqhatshwa,but when he died it all fell down,then there is the new Pumula south sensatio okuthwa ngu Ngwenya,apparently Jacob Zuma's sister was seen in Pumula south esiyacelela uJZ ukuthi abuse,and it looks like he is on course,my question is bawathathaphi amandla angaka oSiziba labo Ngwenya,lalezi inyanga?


Empeleni sewake wayibona inyoka egcinwe ngumuntu ngaphadle egcinwe ngulungu? yena umthakathi sewake wambona? or bona abazali bakho sebake bambona umthakathi? eGuta sengangena khona angikaze ngibone lutho lapho kodwa ke engakufundayo yikuthi abantu abasemaSontweni yibo abathakathi abakhulu enengi labo kalixoli ubusuzibuza ukuthi pho bakholwani?
Posted by: Khanka

Re: IMITHI LOKUNOTHA - 11/07/08 02:29 PM

there is what we call hard work,
and again nxa utshaywa likhanda bakuphe ama "Anadin" those days,
the head ahce will go away because you bilieved,,
you go to your nyanga and he tells you,xhubha ka 7 times ngo o'clock,ube ususidla isithswala uzaba lomkhaba njengo mdala,
bilieve you me you will be fat.
Posted by: mbaleki

Re: IMITHI LOKUNOTHA - 11/07/08 08:37 PM

Bobaba ngiyalizwa,kodwa i think i fact yikuthi either lakhulela eslungwini kibo Hillside le,or you are seriously in denial .Khanka,if you think you were cured by the mere thought of drinking ama anadin,then how do you explain a scenario whereby umuntu ongazaliyo goes to all the doctors,azame ukunatha amaqanda aluhlaza,azame almost everything,and nothing happens,and then ahambe enyangeni or kubo Siziba and they get pregnant,do you think its the 'african life coaches' as Mpume puts it?.i mean,do we take all those people quing outside Ngwenyas house for people seeking coaching?
Posted by: welly

Re: IMITHI LOKUNOTHA - 11/08/08 02:12 PM

When a human being refuses to realise or acknowledge that reality of human life is 1, Physical 2, Spiritual 3, Circumstantial 4, 5, Supernatural

Then I immediatelly charge such persons as dellussional. Ngubani phakathi kwethu ongacatswanga inkanda. LIARS sikhuluma nje abanye baqize intebe.

So should we justify ourselves and charge people as insane and dellussional for carrying inebe, absolutelly not the dellussional person is the one who says that such things are fictional, non existant and of no effect.

Those enlightened with reason and knowledge will definatelly acknowledge that such things are real and a part of humanity though occuring in different forms but non the less are as real as we are real people typing our thoughts on THE WIDE WORL WEB www....

Yes tell a youngster emaguswini who has never seen electricity about the internet will say it a lie and does not exist yet non the less its a fact and real and existant irrespective of whether these people know it or have experienced it.

Our ancestors were not neccesarrily ignorant when they used herbs and various artefacts as an intergral part of their lives. Indeed we reap what we sow as a reality.
Posted by: mbaleki

Re: IMITHI LOKUNOTHA - 11/10/08 09:00 AM

Welly,i totally agree with yuo lapho,ithink its pure hypocriy ukuthi sithathe izinto esakhuliswa ngazo szenze engathi they are disgusting,yiso lesi isilung esesingene ebantwini abamnyama.
Posted by: okaMabhedla

Re: IMITHI LOKUNOTHA - 11/10/08 10:25 AM

welly not to disagree or agree, i thought wena you had the holy book as your guideline hence izinto zokucaba are not mentioned in the bible (correct me if am wrong) hence just asking, ukwazela kuphi konke lokhu i.e. ukucaba, etc? are you still practicing that on yourself and your modern christianed kids (if you have)?
Posted by: mg_d

Re: IMITHI LOKUNOTHA - 11/10/08 10:39 AM

Mbaleki sawibona mfowethu, ithink nowadays this thing has become a choice ne belief yomuntu ukthi ikuphi into owakhula ngayo ilungile nxa isakusebenzela if you choose to go to chuerc which many believe its an adoption its okay not to say isintu sethu is disgusting. nxa uthola umntwana usemazweni where do you go for imithi yokumethesa inkanda and all the stuff? kumbe bakhina osiwaluwalu phetsheya? we don`t know ukuthi abazali bethu benzani kithi nxa besizala and the reason why they were doing leyonto yokwethesa inkanda and stuff i`m not against all these things but i choice ngeyomuntu.
Posted by: mbaleki

Re: IMITHI LOKUNOTHA - 11/10/08 11:03 AM

MG uqinisile ukuthi its a question of what you choose,and vele ma usemazweni then it becomes impossible ukwethesa inkanda lokunye nje okwesintu,mina personally angisakuyenzi okunengi kwakhona ngoba angikwazi ukuthi kwenziwa kanjani,but you will not find me judging umuntu okusebenzisayo ngithi u old fashioned or kanjani,if yena kunsebenzela,then let him be,mina kahle kahle into engiyiytshoyo yikuthi abanye bayawusebenzisa umuthi,and uyabasebenzela,let us not judge them sithi bayizithutha or baqilwa zinyanga laba profiti
Posted by: welly

Re: IMITHI LOKUNOTHA - 11/10/08 11:37 AM

Originally Posted By: okaMabhedla
ukwazela kuphi konke lokhu i.e. ukucaba, etc? are you still practicing that on yourself and your modern christianed kids (if you have)?


Mfowethu ngithemba inkosi ikudzinile. In answer to your question I like everybody else kuMthwakazi was brought up under the influence of our culture we inherited from our forefathers. This is part of our history and is fact. Irregardless of the amount of practice but non the less in the majority if not all uMthwakazi has encountered and practised one form or the other of our cultural belief system.

I find there are a lot of hypocrites in our society of those who act and portray an image that they have never experienced use of herbal and ritual remedies. They further go on to justify themselves in peoples eyes by asserting that our culture is not real and rituals do not have an effect in reality as if its a hoax. However if you scrutinise these people you will notice that they have a guilty consious and are trying to do away with their past by saying that these things are not real. However I wanted to make it clear that no matter what level of use one has made of cututral rituals it is hypocritical to say its non existant or is not real. If you have never had umkhoba for example does not mean it doesnt exist. The fact is there are people who have encountered these things.

Personnally yes ukucaba has been a part of my life in the past but as of now i have clearly converted to Christianity and neither do I practise any part of my cultural background. My son was born before my conversion and hence I did perform some level of inkanda operation on him but to a minimal because by then I had influence of education and was questioning the validity of the practise. Currentlly I will not pursue any part of these rituals but my guide is The Holy Bible prescription of what should be done when lets say my son gets ill. This is basically hospital and prayer strictly.

There are indeed many strange and mysterious happenings on earth in all people groups and they are all a fact of life. The people who say otherwise are just fool hardy and burying their heads in the sand. The ultimate quest in life is to search for and obtain the way that leads to eternal life which is truth. Truth in that it will give you a blessed life beyond the grave. All other ways become false in the sense that they oppose truth hence will fall under judgement and eternal death a life of inflicted pain in eternity beyond the grave. Just because you can for example rape a woman and get away with it does not mean that you will escape eternal judgement. Just because you will use other forms of rituals like ukucaba to preserve life of your children does not mean you will escape judgement in that you have practised what is evil in the eyes of the eternal Judge. Everything all humans do will be Judged by an etrnal Judge and if you do not look at this surelly you will loose your life.

Yes you can steal today and be rich but in eternity die an eternal death. So everything you do you should search if it gives life or indeed if you are accruing death upon your soul.

Hence as is evident for myself i have sought refugee status under Jesus Christ that i may escape eternal death for all evill practises I will ever do.
Posted by: abedabuko

AMASIKO ETHU, IVELAPHI YETHU,INDABUKO YETHU? - 12/20/08 05:05 PM

Greetings African scholars,academics, intellectuals etc.

What is education--[1]education is translated in many aspects, such as African world centred views are education, through African perspective.European education is centered around Euro-American perspective.They is no mono defination of education, in your understanding, you refered to education meaning adopting western ways of thinking, that is institutionalised form of thinking based on Euro-American values, translated by an African convent.

Culture-defines education
Tradition-defines education
Custorm-define education
So Euro-American module of education was/is based on traditions/values/custorms/cultures?

You as a native black African where is your heritage[imphi ivelephi yakho]Did you know how you survived all the eons before we where conqured and christianised,it is common sense, who are you, where did you come from as a person, do you mean to say god speaks to arabs and whites only.So if it the case who created Africans, if that god only appeares as either arab or white person.


Isn't part of the problem that we have so many intellectuals who are of but not for the Black race and that the people have found no way to identify and discount them? Some are liberal, some are Marxist, some are Christian, some are Muslim, some are Europeanist, some are Arabist, and seek to bring our people into these various folds, these various alien ways of seeing our problems. But they are not about solving our problems to our group benefit. In contrast, Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin,Rosa Luxembourg, etc were white intellectuals who did their thinking for the White proletariat and its interest. Likewise Mahatma Gandhi, Pandit Nehru, Tagore etc were Indian intellectuals who did their their thinking for Indians to find solutions to India's problems; Likewise Mohammed and his intellectual heirs--ibn Khaldun, ibn Sinna etc-- did their thinking for the Arabs and the Arab interest. Likewise Mao and the Chinese Communist party were intellectuals who did their thinking for the liberation of China from feudalism and imperialism- - their thinking was focused on solving China's problems of their day. Likewise, Fidel Castro and his party were Cubans who did their thinking for Cuba; Likewise, Jefferson, Madison, Benjamin Franklin, John Jay etc. were white Americans who did their thinking to advance and defend white America's interest. European intellectuals down the centuries, regardless of religious, philosophical or ideological faction, have always done their thinking for the Europeans and to advance the interests of Europe. In brief, the black race sorely needs a party of intellectuals who will, together, think through its problems and figure out ways to defend and advance its group interests. Until that happens, the black intellectuals, with their different individualistic, and mostly foreign-inspired, agendas will continue to mislead the Black people. We cannot afford to assume that just because a thinker is black he is for the black race. It was probably from that naive error that Nkrumah hearkened to the liberal economic prescriptions of Sir Arthur Lewis, assuming that as a black, Sir Arthur was also dedicated to solving the problems of blacks rather than implementing the Europe-serving liberal doctrines of his masters. We must devise tests for determining which black intellectuals are for the black race and therefore worthy of our attention and which are not.We must also learn to detect and discount the frivolous ones who merely indulge themselves in toying with our serious issues Chinweizu
Posted by: abedabuko

Re: IMITHI LOKUNOTHA - 12/20/08 05:34 PM

Ignorance is bliss, you have to study about black invesions which are registered under federal government of America, for instance who invented [traffic lights]Gareth Morgan, [who invented clock] Benjamin Banenker,Industrial oiling machine it was Elijah Macoy[real macoy] as tsotsi tal says nguma koya!![macoy]

In America you buy books about black inventions, also you check on federal registred black invesions dating back centuries.
Many universities will offer you educational material if you like to know more about black people invetions.

Under discrimination,segrigation periods black people's intellectual properties where confiscated/conned as invented
by superior whites, since blacks were deemed as intellectual incapable to invent scientific advancement, common sense how did we survive on our own before the invasion of Africa by christian crusaders, how did we heal illnessess, how did we give birth, how did we understand nature, how did we know what nourishes your body and destroys your immune system,how did we tame wild dangerous animals,how did we keep days, how did we shape stones as tools from what source of imagination inspired our thoughts as a people, how did we build communities, how did we set a laws to govern land, how did we preserve food for future consumption.
The list goes on and on, you where brain washed to believe you are not smart enough, since functioning from a western school of thought.Study about building of ancient civilisations in Africa.
Posted by: abedabuko

Re: IMITHI LOKUNOTHA - 12/20/08 11:45 PM

Originally Posted By: welly
Originally Posted By: okaMabhedla
ukwazela kuphi konke lokhu i.e. ukucaba, etc? are you still practicing that on yourself and your modern christianed kids (if you have)?


Mfowethu ngithemba inkosi ikudzinile. In answer to your question I like everybody else kuMthwakazi was brought up under the influence of our culture we inherited from our forefathers. This is part of our history and is fact. Irregardless of the amount of practice but non the less in the majority if not all uMthwakazi has encountered and practised one form or the other of our cultural belief system.

I find there are a lot of hypocrites in our society of those who act and portray an image that they have never experienced use of herbal and ritual remedies. They further go on to justify themselves in peoples eyes by asserting that our culture is not real and rituals do not have an effect in reality as if its a hoax. However if you scrutinise these people you will notice that they have a guilty consious and are trying to do away with their past by saying that these things are not real. However I wanted to make it clear that no matter what level of use one has made of cututral rituals it is hypocritical to say its non existant or is not real. If you have never had umkhoba for example does not mean it doesnt exist. The fact is there are people who have encountered these things.

Personnally yes ukucaba has been a part of my life in the past but as of now i have clearly converted to Christianity and neither do I practise any part of my cultural background. My son was born before my conversion and hence I did perform some level of inkanda operation on him but to a minimal because by then I had influence of education and was questioning the validity of the practise. Currentlly I will not pursue any part of these rituals but my guide is The Holy Bible prescription of what should be done when lets say my son gets ill. This is basically hospital and prayer strictly.

There are indeed many strange and mysterious happenings on earth in all people groups and they are all a fact of life. The people who say otherwise are just fool hardy and burying their heads in the sand. The ultimate quest in life is to search for and obtain the way that leads to eternal life which is truth. Truth in that it will give you a blessed life beyond the grave. All other ways become false in the sense that they oppose truth hence will fall under judgement and eternal death a life of inflicted pain in eternity beyond the grave. Just because you can for example rape a woman and get away with it does not mean that you will escape eternal judgement. Just because you will use other forms of rituals like ukucaba to preserve life of your children does not mean you will escape judgement in that you have practised what is evil in the eyes of the eternal Judge. Everything all humans do will be Judged by an etrnal Judge and if you do not look at this surelly you will loose your life.

Yes you can steal today and be rich but in eternity die an eternal death. So everything you do you should search if it gives life or indeed if you are accruing death upon your soul.

Hence as is evident for myself i have sought refugee status under Jesus Christ that i may escape eternal death for all evill practises I will ever do.