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yes killing of innocent beings at times does pay. a living example is the massacre of innocent ndebeles that paid handsomely to the shona people. today many shonas are proud owners of low cost housing in mat'land not to mention farm land kuboNyamandlovu, etc.........

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Originally Posted by mbaleki
Ukuthi sokuxotshwa abaye bobo ngizwe ngomunye umjida ohlala khonale e-alex,apparently ba-rape lomunye ususi womxhosa ngoba ebethethwe ngumuntu wase khaya,but its heresay,so angingeke ngithi ngi 100% sure ngakho,uyabona eminye imihlobo ingabe izonda amazimbabwean kodwa ayitshengiseli njengamazulu,besides wona amazulu ayehlukene,lawa awegoil awanankinga,but lawa awe natal/durban,ungadlaleli kuwo,ayakubulala.There was a time ngama 90's when this zulu guy(i cant remember his name) was minister of home affairs,he initiated "iskhukhula",and yena self wayehamba etown ekhombela abantu that didnt look like south africans,so they just might be pushing the masses inti action.
Steve Tshwete was not a zuluboy my friend , you are mistaken here.

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uxolo mfowethu,kutsho ukuthi i got my facts mixed up


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Mbaleki i doubt very much that the IFP has that clout or support in Goli to do such kind of a thing. Buthelezi is known and has publicly defended the Mthwakazi people who are in South Africa. Why would he do such a thing? Ngisola ukuthi Inkatha imane ibhadwe ngodaka njengento engayenzanga. The hatred of foreigners by South Africans is not confined in one tribe. Most South Africans hate foreigners, ngokuzwa kwami kuthiwa abantu abazonda amaforeigners kakhulu eGoli ngaBeSotho lamaPedi.
Mbaleki, uyizwe kuphi into yokuthi sekuxotshwa lama Xhosa lamaPedi. Angiyikholwa ke leyonto mina.


Unjani Mthakathi27.

Ke ngikuhlephulele kancane ngepsych yamaSouth Africans ngokwazi kwami: Ngivumelana lawe ukuthi SA generally hate foreigners.I sisusa kuyini, impendulo i complex kodwa can be derived from their immediate history.Ukucwasana ngemihlobo lokweyisana kuvele kuyingxenye yabo.iApartheid is to blame.I homeland system is to blame kakhuu ngoba yayidala i 'teritorialism'. I can not point a finger to anyone as a causer of this violence.
.i IFP is very capable of doing that.l lived in SA pre and post '94 and l witnessed impi yezitimeleni iNkatha ibophele amaqhele abonvu isidla ubhedu, igwaza njalo iphosa abantu ngamawindi izitimela sihamba.Banengi abafela ezitimeleni ngenxa yokungazi ukuthi indololwane yini ngesiZulu.

Ngabe uyazikhumbula na izimpi zase KATHORUS kumbe ngithi Katlegong/Thokoza/Voolorus ngaseEast Rand.
iBoibatong masecre eyaze yaculwa nguBrenda uyayikhumbula na. Who were the players? Those were the bloodiest black on black violence you can ever imagine. Kuliqiniso ukuthi iIFP has a political clout e Gauteng.Actually it has only 2 provinces to hope for ie KZN and Gauteng. Ngo 1994 yayibhekelele ukuthi izobusa iGauteng ngelishwa yafeyila.Yasinyonkoloza thina abakaMzilikazi esasiGoli isithi sisapote i ANC. Ungaze usikhulume njani isiZulu ma ungasimZulu uyisilwanyana(animal) emehlweni abo.Thus why iNkatha is practically designed for umZulu phaqa.

U Gatsha angimkhumbuli 'publicly defending Mthwakazi people' or extending his hand to us,either as a political leader, traditional leader/prince royal yakwaZulu lapho okuphuma khona u Mzilikazi and most importantly as Minister of Home affairs for 10 years.Ngabe uyayazi i Bulawayo na? I ANC yizo eyazi uNkomo,iZAPU,iZIPRA, bangakutolikela ngezimpi zase Zimbabwe like eSipolilo ngoba they took part.

AmaPedi lamaSuthu, ngiyabaphikela,they dont have iculture yo dlame khona bele xhenophobia njengabobonke.Lezinkokhelizabo angiziboni ezilesikhathi sokuphehlelela into enje.
Leyo eyokuxotshwa kwamaPedi lamaXhoza hatshi ayizwakali sibili.
Lami ngifana labantu bonke angazi ukuthi luphumaphi loludlame ungathi uNkulunkulu engathela umoya abantu baphephe..

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There was a time ngama 90's when this zulu guy(i cant remember his name) was minister of home affairs,he initiated "iskhukhula",and yena self wayehamba etown ekhombela abantu that didnt look like south africans,so they just might be pushing the masses inti action.

Steve Tshwete was not a zuluboy my friend , you are mistaken here.



Previous minister of Home Affairs obedila ngama id and migration nguMangosuthu 'Gatsha' Buthelezi.NgumZulu phaqa lo.I post yakhe yathathwa ngu Nosiviwe Mapisa Nqgakula.
Previous minister of Safety and Security obedila ngamapolisa ngu Steve Tshwete ipost yakhe yathathwa ngu Charles Ngqakula the huby to Nosiviwe.NgamaXhosa buthathu babo laba.

NB :Amapolisa are not under ministry of HA

Isikhukhula ngabe besiqhutshwa yi xminister of HA or xminister of SS?

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There was a time ngama 90's when this zulu guy(i cant remember his name) was minister of home affairs,he initiated "iskhukhula",and yena self wayehamba etown ekhombela abantu that didnt look like south africans,so they just might be pushing the masses inti action.

Steve Tshwete was not a zuluboy my friend , you are mistaken here.



Previous minister of Home Affairs obedila ngama id and migration nguMangosuthu 'Gatsha' Buthelezi.NgumZulu phaqa lo.I post yakhe yathathwa ngu Nosiviwe Mapisa Nqgakula.
Previous minister of Safety and Security obedila ngamapolisa ngu Steve Tshwete ipost yakhe yathathwa ngu Charles Ngqakula the huby to Nosiviwe.NgamaXhosa buthathu babo laba.

NB :Amapolisa are not under ministry of HA

Isikhukhula ngabe besiqhutshwa yi xminister of HA or xminister of SS?

Nfowethu , Isikhukhula sasiqhutshwa ngu Steve Tshwete , the xminister of Safety & Security . I say so because i personally met him during the operation isikhukhula in 90s at Berea ( JHB ) in front of one of the common Zimbabweans residential place (flat) called Helderburg . He was within the members of SAPS going identifying and pin pointing where he wanted his operation to target the most . One to two years after that he was assassinated .

Yes Bathwalibophahla , uGatsha ( IFP leader )was once a minister of Home Affairs BUT was not the one in the fore front of the 90s Isikhukhula .

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This wave is suspiciously zonal..see how its gone quiet in Mamelodi.. it hasn't got to soweto yet, so this coming weekend the fight goes to Soweto....Africa will never get it right...at least not in our generation....do people understand that over 50% of the companies employing our people are non-SA firms???? Globalisation will pass us by while we sleep....how many of us have a cousin brother, friend employed by an African from north of our borders? my guess is at least one......these guys know hardship and tehy know opportunity if they see it... dont get me wrong..some foreigners do commit crime, either as foreign run groups, or in collusion with locals...but to persecute a woman with a 2 year old kid (I can hear you say ingane yenyoka uma isikhulile nayo iba yinyoka, a snake breeds snakes) for our troubles, and sending them back to th every politicians whom our own economically and politically advantaged gvt is failing to bring to line through international embargoes an dsport bans at least is totally insane. Jews came to SA, Greeks came to SA, Russians are flocking in (Perculiarly Swazis and Sothos from those two nations are not being harrassed) ...and as they are not shona, shangaan or any non black foreigners..tehy are not persecuted (Not that they should) but as the Jewish have proven in the US, these people do become productive and feel as part of th elandscape and want to contribute positively.....they are also human their kind will be tempted to commit crime, as our own are... Come on World Hold On.. One day you will have to answer to the children of the future........

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Ignorance is a serious syndrome in a societal discourse. How dare could these shallow , narrow, litlle and semi literate South Africans unleash wave of terror when Africa is about to host ever lingered 2010 WORLD CUP.



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