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Mthwakazi,

Tswankirayi interview with LA Times

The former Zanu-pf political commisar and now Mugabe's first prime minister Tswankirayi says Mgabe cannot be prosecuted for killing the Ndebeles.
Kunini sitshela izilima zakithi ukuthi zigada imota yamashona engelamaviri bazaphaphama bodwa sebevelelwe yingozi. Lamhlanje nanti itshabi liyala lithi uMgabe never abotshwe.

Kambe lithini ngantwenje Mthwakazi?

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What? "The former Zanu-pf political commisar"?
I don't understand mfowethu!
I read the article, and it's punchline was:
"The Zimbabwe president can't be held accountable for political violence during his 28-year rule, but others may be, the new prime minister tells The Times."
Well, if the slightly younger ZANU DOGS are prosecuted, I'll be satisfied! As for 90yr old mgabe, what justice can be squeezed out of such an old man? By the time justice is served, he'll have fossilised already!
Location of the whole article is on:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-zimbabwe17-2008sep17,0,1425862.story

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Originally Posted by Udabakaluthethwa
Mthwakazi,

Tswankirayi interview with LA Times

The former Zanu-pf political commisar and now Mugabe's first prime minister Tswankirayi says Mgabe cannot be prosecuted for killing the Ndebeles.
Kunini sitshela izilima zakithi ukuthi zigada imota yamashona engelamaviri bazaphaphama bodwa sebevelelwe yingozi. Lamhlanje nanti itshabi liyala lithi uMgabe never abotshwe

One forumite the great Muntongenakudla is fond of saying Masixukuziseni ugebhezi!! Never was that saying more apt.

Lets see Tsvangirayi has just signed an agreement to share power with Robert Mugabe - the ink is not even dry on that document!An agreement in my humble view that is deeply flawed (but that is an issue for another day). So Tsvangirayi is newly elevated to the post of Prime Minister in a powersharing government with Fist of Fury. It cannot be over emphasized that Tsvangirayi does not have total control certainly, and debatably the level of control he has is a matter of conjecture.Whether this marriage of convinience will last or is legitimate remains to be seen. Against this background did anyone sane and in charge of all their faculties seriously expect Tsvangirayi to say anything other than what he has said in that interview with respect to the prosecution of Fist of Fury? If the headline had said "Mugabe to be prosecuted" where would that have left the newly signed agreement?
Why am I not surprised that this obvious statement by Tsvangirai has been ceased upon by what can only be described as desperate political opportunists to fuel the flames of their agenda!


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"Let the rule of law apply. Isn't that what we all cry for?" - Tsvangirai

Uyahlanya loTsvankilayi, he has not impressed so far in his new role as PM. He moves from gaffe to gaffe.

How can the rule of law apply yet Mugabe is not to be prosecuted. He has better shut-up because if he were to change his position in the future he would be a hypocrite.

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Originally Posted by Jazelindizayo
[quote=Udabakaluthethwa]Mthwakazi,

Why am I not surprised that this obvious statement by Tsvangirai has been ceased upon by what can only be described as desperate political opportunists to fuel the flames of their agenda!

WELL SAID, JAZE!!!

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Originally Posted by Nqobile_Mbali
Well, if the slightly younger ZANU DOGS are prosecuted, I'll be satisfied! As for 90yr old mgabe, what justice can be squeezed out of such an old man? By the time justice is served, he'll have fossilised already!

The same measure of justice as the pain he continues to inflict on you and I at that age of 90. Unless of course if you are not feeling the strife he continues to cause!

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Guys,Guys,Guys,
The rule of law will be applied komgodoyi lingethuki, the only problem is that new laws will be introduced to protect the perpertrators of evil. Infact history will repeat itself
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From the 1960s onwards, the people of Zimbabwe were involved in a civil war to get rid of the
colonial Government of Ian Smith. This civil war became more and more violent during the 1970s.
There was the Rhodesian army on one side, and the two armies of ZANLA and ZIPRA on the other
side. ZANLA was the armed wing of ZANU, the Zimbabwe African National Union, and ZIPRA was
the armed wing of ZAPU, the Zimbabwe African People's Union. Ordinary people living in rural areas
of Zimbabwe were the worst off during this war. They were caught in the middle of the conflict and
suffered in many ways. They were punished by the Rhodesians if they helped the freedom fighters,
and punished by the freedom fighters if they would not help them. Many of those who went to
training camps or refugee camps in Mozambique and Zambia were bombed by the Rhodesians.
Some things that happened in the 1970s made what happened after Independence much more
likely. In particular, certain laws were passed by the Rhodesian Front, which made it impossible for
Government officials to be punished for what they did, even if they murdered innocent people
. The
Rhodesian Front and the Governments before them, passed many laws which severely limited most
people's rights to live where they chose, go to school, work, or express any freedom of thought or
movement. People in Rhodesia became used to a situation where the Government showed no
respect for their civil rights.

After Independence, these emergency powers remained in force right up until July 1990. The
Zimbabwean Government used them in the same way the Rhodesian Government did, to silence
political opponents. So the bad laws put in place by the Rhodesian Front made it easy for
Zimbabwe's ruling party, ZANU-PF, to deny ordinary people their basic rights whenever they so
chose.qouted from "Breaking the Silence,Building True Peace 1980-1988.

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In 1988, after the Unity Accord had brought an end to violence, a second amnesty was announced in
Zimbabwe. This time those who were being saved from prosecution for crimes committed against
civilians were 5 Brigade, CIO, other army units and dissidents.
The very men who tortured people in the 1970s used the same methods to torture people again in
the 1980s. Both times they got away with it and were never punished. Some of these men still hold
senior positions in the Zimbabwean Government and armed forces.

So lets not expect much from imgodoyi leyi, history simply repeating itself.

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isn't it clear ukuthi ngobani abafuna uMgabe ajeziswe? i thought it was the victimised Ndebeles excluding those who are wining and dining noMgodoyi!! uTswangson doesn't fit that profile hence only the naive can expect him to be gunning for mugabes arrest!!


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Nanka amatshabi eqhubeka nge Shona Grand Plan Mugabe and Tswankirayi are very dangerous people. Ukuthi uTswankirayi amvikele uyise sikhangele siyabesiyizithutha zangempela. "UMgabe kavalelwe" must be our new slogan.
Mgabe must be arrested for his crimes on Mthwakazi. Nxa becabanga ukuthi sesakhohlwa manje abakaqalisi yikho bezabona izibunu zenyoka.


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leyinto ebivele isegcekeni ukuthi yena tshwankilayi lo ubezamvikela ekugcineni lomgabe ngoba sekuyi boss yakhe so akusela eyinye into azoyenza,abantu bakiyh basetshe nzisiwe ukuthi baphakamise utshwankilayi usephezulu sehle khuluma ubumbulu bakhe thats why kungafanele sibathembe abetshabi laba ngoba they the biggest backstabbers manje abantu bakithi basele egcekeni yena already impilo yakhe isiqale ukutshintsha.anywhere laye mgabe lo angake aqede ifive years ephila.thina kumele siqubeke ngoku gqugquzela ukuthi sithole nje inkululeko le esikhala ngayo siphume ngaphansi kwalezi zinja kuphela.


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