I'm very happy that this question was asked clearly. If my memory is correct it is the very same question that our "resident expert" Jazi poses - a carrot and a stick or is it a carrot and a watermelon as the mob would refer to it. Baba Dube if I read your response correctly you appear to say mpc does not believe in an armed struggle. Is this diplomacy or a policy of the MPC or whether you are speaking in your private capacity?
To say armed struggle is 'old fashioned' in Africa, Zimbabwe a country that is worse than countries at war is tantamount to playing with people's mind. Ungangizwa kubi baba I love MPC and admire umsebenzi eliwenza but I believe MPC with its seccessionist policies cannot succeed without guns. Let me be clear baba you cannot compare Zimbabwe, a tribal democracy to countries like the US, UK, Canada, etc where minorities have rights. In Zimbabwe you need the power of the metal as a leverage in negotiating partioning of Zimbabwe. Why do you think Shonas have no respect for Mthwakazians? The simple answer is because we (Mthwakazians) have no guns and Mugabe & friends have guns. The same goes for Tshwangilayi. If he was smart and had guns he would be president by now.
Investing in guns is investing in respect and dignity for our people.
Dingane
I agree with you fully on what you said, but i would like to invite you to read the following document i took from MPC's website. This is a document about the envisaged government MGTA (Mthwakazi Transitional Government Authority), according to the document the MGTA will have most of the government powers and portfolios including security and defense.Therefore i think your concerns are covered here.
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MTHWAKAZI GOVERNMENT TRANSITIONAL AUTHORITY (MGTA):
THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE STATE OF UMR
The Character of MPC
Article 4.1 MPC is a social democratic political movement which unites individuals, groups, organizations and political forces of Mthwakazi into one united political front for the political independence and separate statehood of Mthwakazi. MPC is committed to non-violence and peaceful political means to achieve its Aims and Objectives. ?
1. Introduction
The Foreign Relations Law of the United States of America defines a state as ?? an entity that has a defined territory and a permanent population, under the control of its own government, and that engages in, or has the capacity to engage in, formal relations with other such entities.?
This is the traditional view and is largely seen as a starting point.
It is now accepted that a state is created when effectively such a state is said to exist. This is called the principle of effectiveness. In other words, a state exists when the situation on the ground shows that such an entity now exists. This is almost accepted as the sole criterion for state-formation. In terms of this formulation it is therefore not necessary for Mthwakazi to engage in a tick-box exercise to check whether uMthwakazi meets the traditional criteria of state formation.
It is customary for existing states to then ?recognize? a new state as existing. However, it is now settled law that existence of a state is independent of recognition by other states. Recognition is not a formal requirement of statehood; recognition only accepts a factual occurrence. Recognition is therefore only ?declarative? but not ?constitutive? of a state.
It is now accepted that the determining factor is solely the actual and concrete presence of three related factors: national territory; citizenry and state authority.
From the above it is clear uMthwakazi meets the above criteria except in one aspect, and that is, state authority. At present, uMthwakazi has no state authority exercising governmental functions.
This is where MGTA comes in. UMthwakazi needs a transitional governmental authority leading to full statehood under an independent and sovereign UMR.
2. What is MGTA?
MGTA stands for Mthwakazi Government Transitional Authority. As its name suggests, it is conceived as the governmental authority of Mthwakazi in this transitional stage. Its purpose will be to exercise governmental powers transferred to it through political negotiations in the transitional phase.
MGTA is therefore as much a legal mechanism as it is a political, diplomatic one. Its political purpose is to create a de facto (existing as a fact) state and bring about its de jure (legal) recognition. It is therefore important for MPC to launch a diplomatic initiative to sell and achieve the international recognition of MGTA.
3. How is MGTA to be constituted?
It is not possible to predict with precision the political processes through which MGTA will be achieved. What is given below is a general outline of possible processes.
a) Transitional Zimbabwe Government;
b) Constitutional Conference and New Constitution;
c) New Constitution to provide for MGTA;
d) Elections and New Government;
e) Transitional Parliament with Members of Parliament (MP) and Members of Mthwakazi Parliament (MMP);
f) MGTA to write new UMR Constitution during transitional phase;
g) End of Transitional Phase;
h) UMR Elections;
i) Constitution of UMR Government.
For a detailed road map please refer to ?Velvet Divorce? document in the ?Documents? section of our website
www.mthwakazionline.org. 4. MGTA: Constitutional Status
It is important that MGTA be legislated and be created and provided for in the Transitional Constitution of Zimbabwe.
It is therefore critical that uMthwakazi place MGTA high on the agenda of the Constitutional Conference and negotiate constructively for the inclusion of MGTA in the Transitional Constitution. This constitutional status will enable MGTA to be accepted internationally and enable the international community to deal legally and politically with it.
Once MGTA is negotiated and achieved this way it will become a quasi-state pending full statehood after Mthwakazi?s independence.
The importance of the Constitutional Conference and constitution-writing process (we have called it CODAZ) cannot be emphasized enough for Mthwakazi. These processes are critical to get right.
The Constitution or Rules of Procedure of MGTA will be drafted by the constitution drafting committee.
ESSENTIAL OPERATIONAL
COMPONENTS OF MGTA
5. MGTA Executive Departments (Ministries)
The following are proposed as the Ministries or executive departments of MGTA (UMR):
1) Agriculture and Land Affairs;
2) Arts, Culture, Science and Technology;
3) Defense;
4) Education and Skills;
5) Tourism, Sport and Recreation;
6) Finance;
7) Foreign Affairs;
8) Home Affairs;
9) Health and Human Services;
10) Housing and Urban Development;
11) Justice and Correctional Services;
12) Labour;
13) Minerals and Energy;
14) Communications;
15) Homeland Security;
16) Intelligence and Security;
17) Trade and Industry;
18) Transport;
19) Environment, Water Affairs and Forestry;
20) Work and Social Development;
21) State Affairs and Communities;
22) Modernization and Change;
23) Regeneration and Infrastructure Development.
This is a working list. It is hoped that the final list will be written into the country constitution to give the list the necessary permanency.
It is important to stress that not all of these departments are critical at the transitional stage of MGTA. Less critical functions will have to be deferred to UMR. The most important are discussed in 4 below.
6. MGTA: Assumption of State or Governmental Functions: Apparatus of Government
There are a number of ways by which uMthwakazi can assume governmental functions through MGTA. There is no way of knowing in advance the precise constitutional arrangements for that but it is possible to put out general proposals about how the constitutional arrangements might look.
6.1 Apparatus of Government
 The apparatus of government (governmental authority) might be constituted as follows during the transitional phase:
a) First Minister of UMR and Deputy President of Zimbabwe, or
b) Prime Minister and Deputy President of Zimbabwe; plus
c) Executive Committee of Ministers (Executive departments of MGTA)
 The transitional constitution must be able to spell out the precise designation of the head of executive of MGTA. However this is styled the post itself must begin to transfer executive (governmental) power to the people of Mthwakazi. The head of the executive must exercise such powers with the help of an executive council of ministers as outlined above.
 It is important that the head of executive of MGTA be part of the existing government of Zimbabwe as this is critical for the smooth transfer of executive power to Mthwakazi and that he/she be part of the team overseeing the division of assets.
 The above is only one example of how governmental authority might start to flow to Mthwakazi through MGTA. The possible scenarios are many.
6.2 Mthwakazi Parliament (Mhlahlandlela): Legislative Functions
 Legislative functions of MGTA must vest in Mthwakazi Parliament, made up of one chamber at the transitional stage: the House of Representatives. Should there be strong need for a second chamber this can be added and called the Senate.
- The precise number of the House of Representatives is a matter of negotiation at the transitional stage.
7. Projection and exercise of State Authority: Key Ministries
All executive functions of state are important but there are four critical executive functions which must be transferred to MGTA if uMthwakazi is to have state authority and meet the requisites for a state. These are:
a) The transfer of foreign relations function;
b) The transfer of finance/treasury functions;
c) The establishment of Mthwakazi National Defence Force (MNDF) (Shield or iHawu LeSizwe);
d) The establishment of Mthwakazi Police Services (MPS);
e) The establishment of Mthwakazi Security Services (MSS). These are presently styled the National Intelligence Service (NiS) and the National Secret Service (NaSS)
The importance of MNDF, MPS and MSS are self-explanatory in terms of the critical requirements of state-formation. The ability to defend the state and to protect the citizenry is a critical element of statehood. It is critical that the defence and security apparatus of Mthwakazi take root quickly.
The ability to self-finance (raise taxes for state functions) and the ability to enter into relations with other states (foreign relations) is equally important.
All these four functions provide, on an immediate basis, the critical ingredient of statehood that are presently lacking in Mthwakazi?s quest for full statehood and sovereignty. It is critical that this lacuna be closed with urgency.
8. Key Transitional Ministries: Transfer of power mechanisms
8.1 Ministry (Executive Department) of Defence
 MGTA must recommend to the transitional government of Zimbabwe and approve those appointments and the President must appoint senior military staff of Mthwakazi to be seconded to Ministry of Defence of Zimbabwe. These senior officers of Mthwakazi will work together with senior military personnel of Zimbabwe in all transitional measures.
 Appropriate command structures must begin to be transferred to MNDF
 Members of the emerging MNDF must begin to wear uniforms separate and distinct from those of the present military of Zimbabwe and must immediately be distinguishable as such.
 Senior military personnel of ZNA and MNDF must draw up an inventory of military assets to be shared between MGTA and Zimbabwe for these to be agreed by the political leadership of both countries.
8.2 Ministry (Executive Department) of Intelligence and Security
 The President must appoint intelligence and security personnel of Mthwakazi recommended and approved by MGTA for secondment to the security and intelligence services of present-day Zimbabwe. This applies to both civilian and military intelligence.
 There must be genuine, open, accountable and verifiable exchange and transfer of intelligence and security information, including archive material and other material information presently held by the government of Zimbabwe on any subject of the future UMR.
 Senior intelligence and security personnel of Zimbabwe and Mthwakazi must draw up an inventory of assets to be shared between the two countries and present these to the political leadership of both Mthwakazi and Zimbabwe.
 Oversight arrangements for all security and intelligence matters shall be the responsibility of MGTA.
8.3 Ministry (Executive Department) of Finance
 The President must appoint the Executive Member responsible for Finance in MGTA to Zimbabwe?s Ministry of Finance on a seconded basis to the Minister.
 The Executive Member responsible for Finance in MGTA, working together with the Minister of Finance, must be uMthwakazi?s Single Treasury Account, through which all funds donated by the international community for MGTA shall be channeled. The Government of Zimbabwe must undertake to deposit an opening balance to enable MGTA to commence its tasks. MGTA must also undertake that all funds donated shall be channeled only through this account for the duration of transition.
 The Government of Zimbabwe must transfer all financial and fiscal mechanisms to MGTA?s department of Finance via the Executive Member responsible for finance in MGTA.
 MGTA?s department of finance, working together with Zimbabwe?s Ministry of Finance, must draw up an inventory of assets to be shared between the two countries and all matters of a financial nature relating to those assets.
 MGTA may choose to second personnel to the Ministry of Finance during the transitional phase but this is optional to MGTA.
8.3 Ministry (Executive Department) of Foreign Affairs
 The President must appoint the Executive Member responsible for foreign affairs for secondment to the Zimbabwe?s Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
 The Government of Zimbabwe must begin to transfer foreign relations matters to the Executive Member responsible for foreign affairs. In all foreign affairs engagements the Government of Zimbabwe must make it clear that their position is that of Zimbabwe and not MGTA, and vice versa.
 There must be genuine, open, accountable and verifiable exchange and transfer of intelligence and security information to MGTA of all such information relating to foreign matters and uMthwakazi?s relations with other nations.
 The Executive Member responsible for foreign affairs in MGTA, working together with Zimbabwe?s Minister of Foreign Affairs and Zimbabwe?s Minister of Finance, must draw up an inventory of assets to be shared between the two countries and present these to the political leadership of both Mthwakazi and Zimbabwe.
9. Other Executive departments of MGTA
 Similar arrangements can be made in relation to other executive departments of MGTA for transfer of governmental power to Mthwakazi, with appropriate adjustments.
10. Mhlahlandlela: Mthwakazi Parliament
UMhlahlandlela or Mthwakazi Parliament refers to both the legislative body and parliament building.
10.1 Financing of Mhlahlandlela (Parliament)
 The financing of Mhlahlandlela during the transitional phase (MGTA) will have to be done either directly from Zimbabwe Government?s treasury or through MGTA?s Single Treasury Account. The precise arrangement will have to be made close to the agreement to partition.
 The same applies to financing Mhlahlandlela?s temporary building and all necessary refurbishments. The design, building, location and financing of Mthwakazi?s permanent parliament building will however remain the sole responsibility of MGTA.
10.2 Mhlahlandlela; Parliament Building
 There are existing buildings in Bulawayo which can be adapted and suitably refurbished for MGTA?s parliament as a transitional measure.
 The identification of the location, design, construction and financing of Mthwakazi?s permanent remains the sole responsibility of MGTA.
11. MGTA Coat of Arms
MGTA will have to design a Coat of Arms for Mthwakazi to be used by all its executive departments, which reflects the vision and values of Mthwakazi as a people. This is work-in-progress. It is envisaged that MGTA will have a separate website of its own. The site will also be accessible via the link MTHWAKAZI.GOV at the top left of this website