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Amid such kind of xenophobic attacks taking its course in Alex and other parts of this country , l am thereby calling individual and interested , who are brave enough to stand up for our rights in Sa even though we donot have rights and laws governing our existence in SA.
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Subject: OUR BROTHERS ARE DYING PLEASE HELP
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 20:20:32 +0000



Hilary Benn MP
House of Commons
London
SW1A 0AA


Dear Sir,

I write to you to lobby you to join us in the anguish and dispair over the violence towards Zimbabweans in the Democratic State of The Republic of South Africa. I request that you put forward your voice against this sensless violation of the Human Rights of the affected individuals. We note that The United Kingdom has vehemently spoken out against the perpetration of violence against the citizerns of Zimbabwe even when it stemmed from the ruling government of Zimbabwe. Hence my belief that you may render your voice against the inaction of the Government of South Africa. Please put forward our concerns here in the free world to the Prime Minister to lend us his support. We note that this is a country which is going to host the worlds biggest sport feature yet is unable to protect fundermental human rights of Zimbabwean Human beings.

I hope to receive your reply soon


sekacavelle
FLAT 2, 23 WESTBOURNE STREET
BEESTON HILL
LEEDS
LS11 6EN

http://www.sowetan.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=769141

Landela iwebsite uzobona. usizi lufikile esizweni asikhulekeni zihlobo.

http://www.24.com/media/news/xenophobia/index.html

Look at this one.

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These illegals should just be deported back to their original country. Illegals are just like thugs, they are not supposed to be in RSA in the first place. Why should we defend people who are illegally settled in RSA when they know that there are proper channels to be followed if they want to reside in that country. Over 3m illegal immigrants from Zimbabwe plus some illegals from all over, thats too much.

People are mis-informed, they think that this violence is directed to Zimbabweans only, in one police station there were more Mozambiquens to other aliens. I see nop reason why I should petition my MP. Illegals are a problem, I have my experiences which makes me resolve that illegals should be chucked out.

kanti wena lvovo ungumSouth African or wot??? i dont understand you???

Ivovo your comment on the situation in SA shows that you have a heart of stone and cruel. Wherever you are you are not righteous by any standard of the Law yourself. Whichever country you are in there are aspects of the Law you transgress. Who has ever called for Justice upon you. You are a hypocrite, self righteous and cruel. If we ever put you against Gods righteous standard you deserve worms to eat you to all eternity. Yes people like you who have no mercy deserve to be shot. However you dont control the world and I personally pray the Lord forgives you for your heartless response.

We are all sinful humans and are to offer mercy to all humans irregardless of Law because no one is perfect anyway.

If the illegal people are in SA by Gods will then who are we to condem them. They are to be given Human rights which SA is a signatory to. Not the cruel barbaric Gukurahundi type of treatment. So if you are not interested to help our brothers stay away from it. You are a cruel human being with no sympathy whatsoever.

How is his heart made of stone, he is a post colonial African not aware of the big game, he knows South Africa, that is what he was taught, now he see's o"Zimba feelling his country, right or wrong, a man cares about first himself, he see's no jobs, he is frustrated, he must take it out on somebody as Mugabe first took it out on Ndebele's then when things got tough Mugabe took it out on Malwans and Zambians, the farmworkers. Its life, to Ivovo life began after colonialism, he only knows the South Africa that whites created for him, he knows only Sasol that whites created and magically turn coal into oil, to him a white is his brother, until 10 - 15 years time when things get shitty, like Mugabe he will then attack his white brother and take the land from his white brother while, its a mess, too him whites bring good things blacks garbage, udliweiqhondo wen usisithi he is cruel and made of stone. You are cruel but you refuse to be what you are, 300 men fought Shaka, it took Shaka 3 campaigns to dislodge Mzilikazi with his thousands, that blood runs in you but you refuse to acknowledge it. Don't worry you shall have the last laugh. Remember when things get shitty and another African war begins, you do not want Zulu's and Ndebele's on the same side, the others do not stand a chance, so the clever miners are paying the Zulu's one more time to be silly, you do not want Shaka and Mzilikazi to unite, what chance will the others stand, that war is coming, wait until things are shitty in RSA their agents are using Zulu's to attack, other agents are destroying the electricity supply, its life, yimplio, impilo yimpi, its not far away, and remember all things pass, ubuhlungu lakho kuyadlula.

To say South Africans are brainless is wrong if you are a Ndebele, they are genetically similar to you that means you are also brainless better to say he is not educated, remember Shona's like to say Ndebele's are brainless, don't fall into the trap that is designed for you to fall into, well now Mbeki has sent soldiers, Mbeki is educated, education again is not neccessarily going to university, the Wright brothers ushered in the age of flying they never finished high school.

Its going to be blood in Southern Africa, but lingathi utswaangilayi bayethe, ha, this world is not soft, remember you fought Shaka three times outnumbered 1 to 20, lamshaya uDingaan, that mad blood is in you, yekela uIvovo, isikhathi siyeza.

True that I know we are all born with hearts of stone. But thanks be to Jesus Christ I am saved by his grace. Thats why I pray for Ivovo he is only demonstrating the hardness of his heart like those maurauding hooligans in SA. It is wrong for any human to take a life without due process of law. Every single human being is created in the Image of God and we are to give water to the thirsty even if they are illegal immigrants if you catch my drift.

Ive had a glimse of the video with the burning guy. Surely what manner of justice for a human to do this to another human on the basis of him being a foreigner. Yes vegence belongs to the Lord may he forgive as we forgive them that have done this. The sentence of eternal lake of fire is beyond comprehension.

Your 'logic' and 'sentiments' have always perplexed me and I have come to the conclusion that you might have a personality or other psychological disorder or two possibly from birth or upbringing or maybe drug abuse.
How the fact that, according to you, it is not only Zimbabweans being killed or that it is illegal aliens only (though I know even properly papered ones were/are not safe) makes it right to perpetrate this sort of violence on a fellow human-being escapes me.
You represent the very mentallity that degrades Africans worldwide as it perpetuates a stereotype of savages, unworthy and incapable of deserving independence, peace and freedom in modern civilised society.Regardless of where you come from, I am ashamed to share this forum with you and the only reason I will not leave it for good is to see that your sick mind does not become silently approved sentiment.Phxoo!...ngiyak'wenyanya.

We don't deserve this kind of treatment, especially from fellow Africans. Its humiliating to say the least. Kodwa uNkulunkulu uyazi and uzabatshaya ngoswazi! Abantu basuka bakhohlwe ukuthi impilo liviri; okwenz' uDube, loMoyo kuzamenza.
Ukubulala abantu bakithi labakwamanye amazwe will never give them peace of mind and vele abasoze baphumelele empilweni ngenxa yakhonokho. Ngizwa ubuhlungu nxa ngibala iposting kaIllovo. I guess wonke umuntu is entitled to their own opinion. Kuzwisa usizi though, especially when I think of izihlobo zalababantu ababuleweyo.

uzphoso Phxoo!...ngiyak'wenyanya you might have a personality or other psychological disorder or two possibly from birth or upbringing or maybe drug abuse.

Zondamthakathi, Ungaze ungenyanye angina nkinga lakho mnumzane. Hmmmmm its interesting how you analyse issues mnumzane or dade.

We have never know South Africa to be safe place so what you are saying about ukuthi even those with proper pares are not safe is not something new, everyone knows that. So the issue of security is just the same why not petition government because in SA there is crime. Why liqala this month ukukhonona??

SA has always been known for ibudlangudlwangu and when you came to RSA you took a risk so live with it.

Where do you expect locals to go when they are pushed out of their RDP houses and their jobs because of the influx of cheap labour? They have to fight back ofcourse. Cheap labour is just the same as ama Zhing Zhong they must not be allowed into the market.

If there were a few illegals I do not think the situation will be as bad as what we are witnessing.

Its a struggle and obviously there are casualties, ngeke sakubalekela. Sisi MaJamela I am very sorry if you were offended by my posting kodwa I have to stress ukuthi these people they fought for impilakahle BUT now they are not enjoying the benefits of fighting apartheid illegal aliens are the ones enjoying. In all fairness sane people will not like this

I'm South African and don't condone what is happening to our fellow Africans, but there is an angle that I would like to explore, don't you think that there is third force behind this. I mean our brothers and sisters were neigbhours for years living as South African and Zimbabweans and other Africans but all of a suuden they are enemies, I believe there is a third force behind, South Africans are paid to beat up Zimbabweans so that they can go home and vote its a propagand used by Either Mugabe or Tsangarai, This is my view and I speak under correction

Sawubona Sakhamuzi
like your surname put it Sakhamuzi asakheni iAfrika yethu uma abantu are forced out of their RDP houses then the people should attack the amaKhansela ngoba yibona abanika labantu lezindlu, kukhona lodaba elungangiphathi kahle, umuntu ukhulela elokishini eduze kwe khona alidlule njalo lelikhona kodwa uma umfowethu wase Zimbabwe or eMalawi efika kulelikhona ebeke umkhukhu wakhe lapho enze isitolo or alungise izicathulo umthathela kanjani umuntu wase Mzansi umsebezni South African we are lazy and have pride there are certain things that we don't want to do like selling of certain things that our fellow brithers and sisters are selling. My point let built our continent we need to unite as African against the hole world and show them that we can make it, let us trade amongst our selves let us buil our economy and develop our social structures, Mayibuye iAfrika.
Asante Sana

Ngivumelana nawe mntaka Sikhosana,maybe the problemlies with ama khansela,and whats baffling yikuthi these people have been living side by side for so long,and then all of a sudden,its war.There really does seem to be a third force at play.

Muziesta

Thank you a lot. I always suspected that there is a hidden hand behind these things. These actions started after it was anounced that Zimbabwe run-off is on the 21st of June. Lami I smell a rate. Ukuthi if you start talking of Zimbabwean political parties you risk being labelled an agent of someone. The two big parties in Zimbabwe are violent parties and they are capable of doing anything. MDC has the financial muscle and Zanu has the is known for its violence ever since it was formed. Trude Stevenson who used to be MP and now is under the other MDC was beaten up by MDC Tswangirayi supporters for disagreeing with Tswangirayi policies.

MDC and ZANU same fanana yinja lomdlwane ( dog and puppy),

What can you expect when white farmers who had 14 farms each see an opportunity of change??

I belive the Problem with ZANU PF they are protecting what is theirs they might be deemed violent as Mugabe puts Zimbabwe can never be a colony again, Mugabe wants to protect what they fought for the freedom of their country, where else on the other side MDC Tswangirayi gets his money from Britian and America so if MDC wins Britain and USA will have a lot of say in Zim that is why I say we need to unite as Africans and grow our continet our brothers and sister who are in other countries should learn from the whites as much as they can and come back and build our Africa, Azania is our place let us look after it.
Thise who read the capitalist Nigger would know if you haven't read it please get hold of it.

Muziesta

Thats food for thought my dear brother.

We have battled some dunderheads who were taking liberties on this forum hand in hand but, i feel Lvovo, this time you might have been a bit too right winged for me too. I would like to debate this but i think this issue is too emotive for me.
I would like to encourage you to reconsider your view-point.

sizwe sakithi akeniyeke ukuba ngama(armchair critics), come with solutions.uMgabe lona elihlala likhala liyaqala yini ukumzwa, you still want to be told what he did so to revoke your anger, we all know ukuthi wenzani, but what is the way forward ngoba it looks after Mgabe is gone nizoswela okuxoxa ngako ebhawa, your number enermy is gone.whilst you are there in exile, diaspora, whatever your reason is, please equip your with resources to rebuild yourself or nizohlala lingabakhalayo nsukuzonke, pointing fingers at anyone for your miseries, look Mzansi now all the stupids like you (some) now cant fit to new rainbow nation, what do they do , they run mad and start killing anything they could have caused their misfortunes.
nakunina Mthwakazi omuhle, please dont fall into that trap, uyazi ngesikhathi sempi, ngisho phela eyanikeza abeshabi uzibuse phezu kwesizwe sikaMthwakazi,people dint empower themselves for the post war, and namanje ingane zenu will go the same root. masingapheleli lana especially when discusing indaba zesizwe
aphi anesibindi sika Mbiko kaMadlenya, phela iningi lenu lithole indawo yokucatsha lana enkudleni, alibona omthwakazi bangempela, phumelani ebaleni sinibone

uGodlwayo omuhle,
Ngikhumbula uMaduna uma sekunje

Ivovo kukhanya uhlanganisa ijustice yekweluseni inkomo leyestratini langeyelizwe lonke.Ma ufuna imicijo yakho ikhanye njalo izwakale tshiyana lemiqondo yobutsotsi ngoba akula lizwe kumbe abantu abavuka babe ngababulali bomakhelwana babo overnight regardless ukuthi badabuka emazweni kube yinto ongayibabaza ingani iyabukeka only ngoba labo omakhelwana kubikwa yibo abenza into zibembi empilweni yalabo bantu.
Kusasa lezo z'gilamquba zizobulala noma ngubani nxa vele zingenzi njalo already so awuyazi into oyikhulamayo.Kuncono uthule ungaphenduli njalo ngoba short of apologising for your original posting earlier no amount of sweet talking now with late comers to the forum will do enough damage control of your poor insight into this issue.Sebenzisa inqondo njalo bana lozwelo nxa ulobuntu njalo ungumuntu hatshi ukuba lenhliziyo embi soo.

I might not be a South African



But I'm black; my skin is the same as yours

My colour is the same as yours

My genes are African, nothing but African

When your leaders were beaten by whites

I was there to shelter them

I was patient with them

I offered them food, shelter,

Most of all, I offered them protection



I might be a South African



I can't speak Zulu, cause I'm Vhenda

I can't speak Zulu, cause I'm Shangaan

I don't know what an elbow is in Zulu

As much as you don't know it in my language

Since when was Zulu the only South African language?

Yes...............I'm not from Gauteng

I was not born here, but I'm South African

Where should I go if you beat me

I'm not beating your father, mother, brother or sister who works at my area in the mines

I'm not calling them makwerekwere though they can't speak my language.



I might be dark in complexion



I might have the foreigners looks

I might have the foreigners body structure

Now I am scared to go to the only place that I call home

I'm scared of working down the street without my ID

Whites wanted me to do that centuries ago

Now you, my black brother is acting white



Why should you Black South Africans do this?



What makes you think that you better than me?

Who told you that I'm responsible for your unemployment?

Who told you that I'm less human

If I need to go back to Vhenda........let all the Zulus go back to KZN

Let all the Tswana's go back to Botswana

Let all the Sotho's go back to Lesotho

Let all the Ndebele's go back to Kwandebele

Let all the Xhosa's go back to Eastern Cape

Yes............let all the Swati's go back to Swaziland



Is this not ignorance?



Your unemployment is your responsibility

Use your intellect

Get up and work

Let education empower you

Seek humanity



Before 1994 you blamed whites

Now you are blaming me

Who are you going to blame after chasing me away?

Who are you going to blame after killing me?



For what it's worth.......................



I'm sorry I was not born here

I'm sorry I can't speak Zulu

I'm sorry for being too dark for your Joburg

I'm sorry for cleaning the toilets you don't want to clean

I'm sorry for doing your garden

I'm sorry for repairing your shoes

I'm sorry for protecting your leaders while they were in Exile

Yes.....................what you call Exile...........is my country

And most of all.......I'm sorry for building South African infrastructure



Please my brothers let there be peace and prosperity amongst black African people.



Written by a Teary Black African ......................

uzphose:

Sorry i justice yekweluseni inkomo okhuluma ngayo angiyazi kithi koBulawayo sasingelusi. If the South Africans are justified in evicting the illegals who have taken away their resources kumele ngithini hantsho lami I should say so. There is no sweet talk anywhere in my thread, I call a spade a spade mzala. Those RDP houses should be returned to the rightfull owners period.

ngivumela no Ivovo, the RPD house are meant for desperate South African who cant afford bond houses and the way you get them must done on proper channels. yekani ukuthanda into zamahala njalo lokufika ezigabeni zabantu lizenze oclever, as if locals are dead stupid.kanti even long before all this bewungazi yini ukuthi egoli kulodlame, its a risk to be here, you must always be prepared for any uprising.abantu bemzansi bafunda ukuqondisa izinto through umzabalazo, so you cant change over a few years, maybe another generation.people are frustrated and they vent their anger on anything posing to be a threat especially foreigners.
so phumani kuma RDP and rest abanye abantu, stop making your problems theirs. i have a gut feeling yokuthi ,the way you guys reflect your anger on this site, if it was you sa's , it was going to be worst than this. nani ninayo izondo.

This has nothing to do with RDP housing. Besids kuthiwa bayazidayisa labo abeMzansi abazitholayo lezo zindlu!