Again rather than addres the questions put to you you merely attempt to muddy the waters even further by going through the thread and picking out issues to address most of which have absolutely nothing to do with me or any of the questions that I put to you!!
You may fool some people some of the time but you can not fool all the people all of the time.
Let me hasten to say that by no means do I make claims on being an expert on genetics (or anything else for that matter!). I am but a mere son of the soil odobha ambhimu for a living who nonetheless has a fascination with the world around me!
Be that as it may let me say that Mpumelelo you may have managed to hoodwink some forumites into thinking that you have a suerior understanding of genetics and hence you are some kind of expert on the subject but the posturing and posing that you have adopted throughout this thread tells me that you are no expert on this subject. There is no one with a superior knowledge of genetics who would be at pains to describe an organism as being physically one thing and genetically another as you did when you asserted that the black Americans were physically black but genetically Caucasiane!!!
This is because this concept of the relationship between phenotype and genotype is an elementary one that is (used) to be taught at O'level via the "story" of Gregor Mendel and his peas!!
You are also fast becoming the master at self contradiction. On the one hand you claim that you have never disputed the link between the Lemba and the Jews but in the very next breath you suggest that the Lemba are Arabs!!! If this is not disputing the link then I do not know what it is!
A couple of days ago I asked you, amongst other questions, what a Semite is. I ask again What is a Semite? Given the deafening silence coming from you it is apparent to all that you have no clue what a Semite is. If you knew what a Semite is you would not be jumping up and down about the Lemba being Arabic but not Jewish!!!
According to http://ardictionary.com/Semitic/4503
, http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Semite http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Semite
a semite is term that may be used to describe a group of people that belong to amongst others Jewish and
Arabic peoples. Indeed the the first abstract in one othe references that I posted earlier in this thread states
The results suggest that ≤50% of the Lemba Y chromosomes are Semitic in origin
This is because the "tests" that they had used could not distinguish between Arabs and Jews. The "tests" could distinguish between Bantu and Semtic ancestry markers and significantly the Bantu cohort used in the study was found not to contain Semitic markers in their Y chromosomes. I recall that I also asked you to read the full article of the second scientific study and the justification for that study. It would appear that you have failed to do so for reasons best known to yourself. However one of the justifications of the second genetic study on the Lemba was to attempt to resolve this ambiguity. This is where the Cohen Modal Haplotype comes into the fray as the results of the study suggest that this is relatively reliable marker for Jewish ancestry that is, it is occurs with greater frequency in the Jewish population than in the Arabic.If I am not mistaken the study found that this marker occured at a higher frequency in the Lemba than in the Arabic sample used in the study. What this does is :
a) makes your calls to scrutinize, scrutinize scrutinize sound hollow for you have failed to do precisely that in this instance.
b) blows a huge hole into your argument that the Lemba are jadaised (sic) Arabs
c) tells me that you have not read the articles in their entirety or
d) if you have read them then you have not understood them otherwise you would not insist on making these wild, ludicrous and ridiculous statements that you have been making and finally
e) puts the final nail into the coffin that you are some kind of expert on genetics!
That your definition of being a Jew seems to be centered on the colour of your skin epitomises what is at best woolly headed thinking and at worst an alarming level of ignorance. Again the first reference of the genetic studies says that around 40% of the chromosomes of the Lemba are of Bantu origin. And in case you did not know one of the phenotypic traits of the Bantu is that they are black!! A more holistic definition would extend beyond skin colour to include determinants such as culture, religion and historical narrative.Through their oral history the Lemba have claimed Jewish ancestry and some of their religious practices are accepted to be Judaic. This taken together with the scientific evidence (which by no means is perfect but at the present moment is the best thing going) seems to lend credibility to the Lemba's claims.
It is ironic that you then end your rambling post with warnings of the Ndebele loosing their identity. The story of the Lemba is essentially one about identity. I think that it is remarkable that as a people they have maintained on oral tradition that tells of their origins for over two millenia. It is but a sign of a confused mind that on the one hand dismisses people/nations and tribes and seeks to deny them their right to notonly express but seek answers about their identity while on the other issues a call to arms for a tribe/nation to maintain its own identity>
I am not at liberty to speculate about the Lemba's frame of mind in claiming to be Jewish thus I cannot comment on whether this is a form of escapism or some form of deep hatred of themselves. I will leave that idle and baseless speculation/s to cyber-based selft styled genetic and pyschology experts such as you. Quite how you make that leap and twist of logic is beyond me in as much as you leapt to the conclusion that the makers of the documentary were racist. One is left to wonder who it is that should not only wake up and smell the coffee but drink it by the gallon as well - you or the Lemba?