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thanx MTHWAKAZI0011, THOU I SHARE WITH THEE SOME OF UR THEORIES, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD JUST A PINCH OF WORDS. SCIENTIST ON THE OTHER HAND CAN`T PROVE NOR DISPROVE THAT THERE IS GOD. THE CREATION IS INTERESTING BECAUSE THE TRANSLATION OF WORDS IS FAR FROM THE TRUTH. PERSONALLY, I DOUGHT THAT THE WRITTERS OF BOOK FIRSTLY , MOSES, EVER THOUGHT IT WILL BE USED BY US TODAY.AS THE GENERATIONS PASS SO ARE ADOPTATION OF WORDS AND LOSE OF SOME.INTERESTINGLY, RACISM SHAPED RELIGION BIG TIME. IN SOUTHERN AFRICA THE DUTCH -ANGLICAN- JOHN WESLLE`S METHOD GAVE BIRTH TO ALL "HERE THERE HAPPY CLAPPY CHURCHES" WITH LITTLE IF NONE DOCTRINE AT ALL. FALSE PROPHETS WITH UNCLEAN SPIRITS ARE WELL BLIVED TODAY YET THEY KNOW NOTHING OF ANY HARD DOCTRINE OR PRINCIPLE ETC. THE BLACK CHURCH DOES NOT OFFICIATE TO ANY WHITE COMMUNITY YET THEY CLAIM TO HAVE PROPHETS ( PROPHETS ARE FOR ALL). I DO BLIVE THAT THERE IS GOD HOWEVER, I DON`T BLIVE IN GOD STUFFED TO MY EARS WITH PASTORS ETC.

I BLIVE AND CHERISH THE PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP I HAVE WITH HIM.
THE STORY OF JESUS WAS WRITTEN APPROX 53AD JESUS DIED AT 30YRS, SO TO GET THE EXACT STORY AFTER 20YRS IS JUST A FAIRY TALE. THE KORAN WAS DROPPED (FROM MOUNTAIN, OPPS HEAVEN SO THEY CLAIM) IN AROUND 700AD.INTERESTINGLY, ITS FOLLOWERS ARE FORCED TO READ IT DAILY.ANYWAYS, THE SOUTHERN AFRICAN CHURCHES IN MY VIEW ARE JUST AN ILLUSION IF NOT A COPYCAT WHICH DOES NOTHING TO EASY DARKNESS TO ITS FOLLOWERS. THE MAIN IDEALISM IS THAT THEY FOCUS ON "UBUTHAKATHI" WHICH CLEARLY FOLLOWS THE PATHS OF OUR BELOVED GRAD GRAD FATHERS WHOM WE WILL MEET ONE DAY.
IN CONCLUSION, THE BIBLE IS CORRECT AS FAR AS YOU UNDERSTAND IT BUT IMPORTANTLY WHEN TRANSLATED CORETLY , EITHER YOU FOLLOW LUTHER KING (14CENTURY) JUSTIFICATION OR YOU JUST BE A FOLLOWER OF WATEVER IS SAID BY WHOEVER

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Mnyakomutsha bakwethu

Religion religion religion:

Kusuka kungiphice lokhu. Bengibona kusengathi ukholo esilulandelayo luyangokuthi sikhulele ngaphi njalo sikhuliswe njani. Ma uzalelwe emzini okholelwa edlozini chances are high ukuthi nawe uzakholelwa emadlozini, ma uzalelwe eskristwini lakho kunjalo. Ngangisuke ngithi ukweyisana ngendaba zokholo kuyize. Ingani lalo ibhayibheli lisuka litsho ukuthi ungahluleli, kanti manje abasuka sebesahlulela bona bangobani? Ngithemba umsebenzi wokwahlulela ngebhayibhili ngoka Nkulunkulu yena ongu Jesu Kristu.

Umuntu lo muntu ulesizatho sokuthi yinindaba elandela ukholo alulandelayo, abanye amadlozi ayabasebenzela, abanye iguta liyabasebenzela, abanye isikrestu siyasebenza, i Palestine isi moslem siyabaspanela sithini manje ngalokho? Qina ekholweni lwakho ma kusebenza hatshi ukuthi umuntu abesenta esuka ku one kholo usiya kolunye whenever it suits you.

Singeyisani ngokuthi sikhonzani bakwethu. umthwakazi angithembi ukuthi ekadeni ondlebe zikhanyilanga bengakabikho babekhuleka uJesu Kristu, kwakulalapho ababekhonza khona.

asazi Injelele kumbe ilokhe isasesbenza kumbe umgabe wayi dubula


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IVOVO, i hear you brother , however that mentality is dangerous because it accepts everything as right. surely it cant be.Humans have done much damange buy infiltrating the weak and young throu the power of satan. eg when martin luther nailed the door in german he killed mostly the poor because they wanted to follow the romans afraid to think openly, that shows that "CONDITIONALLY BEHAVIOUR" plays a major role in making people just blive coz someone told you so. think outside the box

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I'm sure the holly book says something like 'Seek his will in all you do, and he will show you which path to take'.In seeking his will the loving Lord hasn't yet directed me to Guta Ra Mwari and i hope he doesn't.

Thank you, Ngiyabonga hk hk hk!!.


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Greetings to you all we meet again. Excuse my perplexity here so what are you exactly saying to us Mthwakazi Lvovo and science. We should believe in the ideas of Mthwakazi or science or simply label all reality as non entity or rather still we should worship ourselves as we have all knowledge and power. What is your colclusion and meaning or do you just speak with no Knowledge, understanding or purpose. What is your intension should we put our lives in your thinking.

Definition a FOOL is a person who does not Know that he does not have Knowledge. Such a one is a dangerous individual capable of destroying a nation fit to be locked away with the key destroyed. It is WISE to Shun such EGOMANIACS who seek self worship.

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Hi guys,
Complemets for the new year. I had an opportunity to visit GRM in SA though. My sense about the church is that they are still old fashion. The way they conduct their service you will be shocked. My fiance is a member and I have learned a lot from him for the past 2 years we have been dating. I guess christianity is a life style and a relationship you have with God. Even for them is exacly the same, they ephasise on a personal relationship with God and that you must undurstand that you are filled with the holy spirit. I would love to bring my children in a way where they will be able to be successful and have good principles. In the world we are living in it is difficult. My advice if you have time go and see for yourselves.

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As far as i know iGuta does not allow visitors. It's either you were told about them or you were a member at one time. If you are not wearing the uniform and don't have the membership card, you will be turned back by the GRM police.


Okungapheliyo kuya hlola. Don't give-up on King Lobhengula's Bulawayo.
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Lungani just as I have indicated my fiance goes to that Church. They do allow visitors they dont give their uniform to anyone. They have a waiting preiod of 3 months before you can be a member. Just like any other church Im a member of the assemblies of God, and in our church they gave you a waiting period of 3 months while you learn about their procedures. Its time we as children of God come together, stop critising one another.

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