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#27 09/17/03 09:03 PM
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Gentlemen

I will try to address you all. Thanks Mpho for your, eh, constructive criticism. Marcus is a reasonable man and Jazelindizayo comes across as a very calculating, intelligent person.
in fact everyone who has contributed to this thread has been very good - although Marcus' excitement when someone mentioned the "best website on the world wide web" phrase can be interpreted (by me) as, eh, abuse!!! ha ha ha!
so people want live forums? they will get them. soon.

#28 09/18/03 09:13 AM
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That's very good news and you can be certain of support from an eclectic mix of people.

#29 09/18/03 09:27 AM
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Marcus - You did ask for a Nguni sounding name to correct as it were errors committed "by certain elder relatives". May I suggest the name of Sindane ? I trust that you will be happy with this moniker <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

#30 09/18/03 11:29 AM
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let's call Marcus Vengesayi

#31 09/18/03 12:16 PM
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Being a regular contributor to Mdu's website I can not sit idly and watch Marcus tearing him apart in the name of constructive criticism. What has escaped Marcus is the fact that the story has had a very positive and significant influence on many young ladies at home who aspire to "go overseas". They have seen that it's not all milk and honey out there, but rather , it's all about toil and sweat.The story has unwittingly or wittingly conscientised vulnerable people who are likely to fall victim to these monsters

Lobengula

#32 09/18/03 12:24 PM
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Lobengula

Much obliged.

#33 09/18/03 01:02 PM
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You state with some authority, though it is not exactly clear where this authority derives from , that "a very positive and significant influence on many young ladies". On what basis do you make this assertion? Have you conducted a secret study on the impact of the story that enables you make this bold (and seemingly unsubstantiated) allegation?
Secondly, precisely how many young women, as a percentage of all young Zimbabwean women abroad, have been taken advantage of by the alleged Asian porn gangs? Are the women who have been taken advantage of in the marjority or in the minority? An educated guess would suggest that a small minority have fallen foul to these alleged porn merchants.

Thirdly, while I am not a spokesman for Marcus, I think it is fair to say that Marcus questioned not the validity of the Asian porn merchants story, but rather the wisdom of the publication of the pornographic pictures on the new zim website and the subsequent furore over the naming an "shaming" of the participants in the photos.

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LOL!

Mdu I do yield to your extensive knowledge of Nguni names but if I am to be known as Vengesayi does it mean I am considered to be brain dead?

And Jaz as ever your smart missiles are precisely on target but if I am to be known as Sindane will you be happy to have me as a half-brother, my half-cousin?

I should never have placed this rod in your hands.

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Sibalukhulu, as I am a stranger to Nguni royal etiquette, could you please convey my respects to the person or medium who is utilizing the name of His Royal Highness and kindly express my humble and sincere satisfaction that in raising this issue here I have not only been able to express my views but elicit those of others and so in my own small way assist in amplifying the completely highminded manner in which Mdu's site has been highlighting the dangers in store for young women in our society?

May I also say I hope no misguided young lady chooses to misinterprete the photographs cited as a suggested shortcut to fame and wealth in our decadent times.

#35 09/18/03 02:02 PM
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While i generally respect your many views that i have read in the past, today i would like to cross swords with you. Firstly let me take you out of your misery: there is no such nonsense as "an educated guess" , much as there is no corresponding illiterate guess. A guess is a guess.Period. Secondly you try to exonerate yourself by declaring unashamedly that you are "not a spokesman for Marcus". In fact you sound far much more than a spokesman, a public relations officer could be closer to what you sound to be.
As for the impact of the story and the positive results it has generated , just look at the wide coverage it has received and even some schools have used it to preach the gospel of safe sex to their students. You may scream and say where do i get the facts , every weekend i travel to Zm and i serve in the governing committee of my former school . We encourage students to use reliable websites like yours truly(inkundla.net) and you guessed it, newzimbabwe.com to research particularly subjects which have been distorted for political expedience eg History, Economics.

So the bottomline bra-Jazi is that whether you like it or not the story has had a positive spin-off. Remember Jazi, sex is no longer a taboo subject any more my brother. Nowadays teachers and parents spend endless hours explaining the dangers of sexual activity. You must move away from being an arm-chair critic and get to the toiling masses and see what the twin evils of AIDS & HIV has done particularly the poor and uninformed.

#36 09/18/03 03:42 PM
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Jaz may I be the first congratulate you on your appointment as my Public Relations agent which has been given a posthumous Royal Seal of Approval?

I am sure you will be as surprised as, and no more and no less delighted than, I was when I first heard the news.

As my first instruction to you in your new and demanding position please would you be so kind as to find me a suitably dignified Nguni internet user name?

How about, on a black and white theme, Dube or Inungu?

Or something beginning with Ma- like Mahlohlelixoxo but shorter.

But please, no Royal names.

I don't wish to be haunted.

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