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#12936 - 05/28/05 11:36 PM Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Msupatsila Offline
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News filtering from reliable sources.

Very soon the Zimbabwean dollar will cease to exist, it will be replaced by a currency called Ndarama a shona word for gold. Howzat

Gono is quoted while dishing out his monetary policy saying, we can not have a country of millionaires and I'm told by one of my friends who happen to be in the committee which was appointed some time ago that the new name will be Ndarama. Initially they had mooted the idea of dollarising the Zimbabwean economy, for those of you who do not understand what that means say so and Lobengula, I and others who might be having an idea will try to explain what that means and its implicatios. The idea of dollarising the economy came in when we first had our local currency shortage and it was backed by the world bank and imf now its no longer dollarisation, its ndaramarisation.

Angazi what it means economically and at the moment I'm not worried about many things, my main worry is why a shona word (Ndarama) we see in the market that we have Chimombe why not a Ndbele word? Mthwakazi, these are some of the small things which makes some tribes to appear superior to others.

What name do you think will do for this new currency?

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#12937 - 05/28/05 11:43 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Msupatsila Offline
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Lafa elihle.

The Ndebelez are too passive thats the reason why some tribes are doing whatever they want phezulu kwethu, thats why all these names are being forced down our imiphimbo ngoba kusaziwa that we do not have any power, we cannot even say no. Our political leadership iyayangisa, the John Nkomoz, Dabengwaz, Mpofuz etc etc bayavuma ukuthengisa kangaka. Regardin to this we should not go for a referendum, kumele either sidinge a unitribe word or an English word which I think is acceptable to both tribes rather than ukuthi the country has a tshona name and lamuhla the currency is also shonalised.


Lets not shonalise the economy. Lets campaign for not shonalising the economy bantu bakithi. No to this name PERIOD.

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#12938 - 05/29/05 02:49 AM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Ndabezitha Offline
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is the word Ndarama Shona or Nyanja

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#12939 - 05/29/05 10:45 AM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Mthoko Offline
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Good question Ndabezitha.

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#12940 - 05/29/05 01:54 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
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I was meant tyo understand that its tshona. Ngingazi njalo, if you have a tshabi friend maybe you can ask because the tshabi person I know told me that it a shona word for gold. He even refered me to the tshona bible, the story of isigoga esasihlala phambi kwethempeli and these two guys came sasesithi sicela isilver legolide and the guys said lokho kasilakho thina sithi ngegama lika Jesu sukuma uhambe. Its written Ndarama angazi njalo.
check this one

http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definition/Shona-english/nd/ndarama.html

maybe kungasinceda.

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#12941 - 05/30/05 05:50 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
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Kengibuze weMsupatsila. If I am not mistaken that picture underneath your name looks like that of Ariel Sharon, the prime minister of Israel. What do you admire in such a hardline terrorist?

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#12942 - 05/30/05 05:58 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Msupatsila Offline
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What your defination of a terrorist? Whose got the universal defination of a terrorist, remember when during the liberation war in Zimbabwe who were terrorists? I will not answer the question. But I'll just say ukuthi it depends on which angle you are looking at izinto. To some us he's not a terrorist, to some of you he is a terrorist so I think if I just keep quite the better. Maybe if you give me ten good reason youi are sayin he's a terrorist I might respond.

Anyway thanx for the question even though

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#12943 - 05/30/05 11:25 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
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[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Uthebulaz'khuni!

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#12944 - 05/30/05 11:41 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
bunandi kill me Offline
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[Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]

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#12945 - 05/31/05 01:37 AM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Mabila Offline
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Hk hk hk hk Msupa your sources are refutable hk not reliable. Dinga amanye. Ndarama paribe!

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#12946 - 06/01/05 12:52 AM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Lobengula Offline
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Those who claim that the Zim economy driven by what Mugabe recently referred to as "the development cabinet" has made a turnaround, as pronounced by Gono in his monetary policy speech are in for yet another rude financial awakening. The issue of the economic turnaround is really whether the economy has not taken a wrong turn since it moves in three distinct but related speeds, described by Eric Bloch, as "slow, very slow, or stop".

The case of AirZimbagwe as written by Reuters, illustrates the crisis perfectly:

quote:
REUTERS
11:30 a.m. May 30, 2005
HARARE – Zimbabwe's government has criticised the cash-strapped national airline for flying unviable routes, including one trip which saw an Air Zimbabwe jet fly 6,000 km (3,728 miles) from Dubai with one passenger aboard.
The official Herald newspaper on Monday quoted Transport and Communications Secretary Karikoga Kaseke as saying Air Zimbabwe, struggling with chronic fuel shortages caused by the country's acute economic crisis, was a victim of 'inept management'.
Local media reported earlier this month that Air Zimbabwe's maiden flight to Dubai, a Boeing 737, left with 49 passengers on board and made the return flight with just one.


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#12947 - 05/31/05 01:42 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Sheik Mthembo Offline
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Ngiyazi ukuthi ithread le ngeyeCurrency, but lami kengilahleke njengabo Samdala!

Musupa, Sharon is a real terrorist just like Botha of SAfrica was a terrorist.The difference between them and Osama is that Osama conducts his terrorism outside confined borders, whereas the likes of Sharon conduct them within defined state borders. Sharon is a state terrorist pure and simple! He has killed so many palastians without a care in the world and has continued with the occuapation of their motherland by building zionist settlements in their midst despite pleas from the international community for him to stop!

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#12948 - 05/31/05 02:02 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Lobengula Offline
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Msu

I agree with you that the US dollarisation of the Zim financial system is the natural solution to the thoroughly distorted financial situation as manifested in Zim.

The introduction of US$ pricing and invoicing of goods and services is the only avenue left for that wretched country which seems to be ruled by a brood of bubonic baboons which destroy everything in their wake and move on. We need a new clean leadership which is morally upright and which brooks no vices in delivering services.

The dollarisation could indeed be a lasting solution, after all, other economies in the region who are also plagued by hyperinflation are already doing that. Mozambique and Angola are classic examples of countries whose economies have been dollarised. As a result, shortages are unknown in these war ravaged sordid countries.

As for the so-called Ndarama, I am not the best person to pronounce on this nonsensical Shona 'currency'. Its advocates like Gono and other former Gukurahundi functionaries are best placed to hyptnotise us on this one.

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#12949 - 05/31/05 03:51 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Msupatsila Offline
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Uxolo chalimani Mthembo angilapha ukukhuluma ngenkokheli engifake ikhanda layo lapha. Ngixoleleni ngemibuzo bengikade ngingekho. Nxa kukukhuba uxolo mnumzane akunanto ongayenza okwamanje ngaphandle kokubana uhlale njalo uphile lakho. It show diversity of cultures, ideologys etc etc lana eNkundleni and I think its healthy for the society. I respect this man as compared to Yassar so uxolo. Lets limit our discussion to the changes that will affect us manje rather than wasting our energies ngabo Sharon amajuda la.

Thank you

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#12950 - 05/31/05 06:16 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Sheik Mthembo Offline
Ndunankulu

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Posts: 629
Loc: The People's Republic of Mthwa...
Musupa wena uthi:


'' Lets limit our discussion to the changes that will affect us manje rather than wasting our energies ngabo Sharon amajuda la. Lets limit our discussion to the changes that will affect us manje rather than wasting our energies ngabo Sharon amajuda la.''

Ngikuzwa ngingadakwanga mkhula njalo lami bengingekho baba but I must bring it to your attention that this Sharon and his criminal government have sold heavy police motor vehicles to the tyrant that is Mugabe, which in turn have been time and again to persecute our people and dismantle any protests on the streets pitched up against the violent rule of Mugabe!

This in actual reality affects us directly mkhula wami, if it does not then ungixolele mkhula wami ngoba lami bengingekho! The zionist Sharon is not different from the butcherist Mugabe! Sharon is simply the Hitler of the middle-east while Mugabe is the black Hittler of Southern Africa.

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#12951 - 05/31/05 06:33 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Msupatsila Offline
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SORRY MFOWETHU I' NOT QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT THAT COZ NGIMFITSHANE KULOKHO. YOU CAN AIR YOUR VIEWS KULUNGILE NAKHO ITS A FREE NKUNDLA FORUM. MAYBE IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT OTHER ISSUES YES SINGAXOXA NOT ESELIKHULUMA NGAKHO. I THINK I FREEDOM OF CHOICE NE ASSOCIATION YIKHO LAPHO ENGENA KHONA. YIKUTHI KANGAZI UKUTHI NGUWE UCHAIRMAN WENKUNDLA KUMBE YOU ARE NOT NXA UNGUYE KUSHO UKUTHI WAPHAMBANISA NGOKUNGASAZISI UKUTHI WE ARE NOT SUPPOSSED TO PUT AMAPIKITSHA ALABO ONGABATHANDIYO AND I NEVER THOUGHT UKUTHI Inkundla NGEYABANTU ABALEMBONO EFANAYO. IF UNGASUYE CHAIRMAN WENKUNDLA THEN IBIZO OZIPHALONA SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT HOW YOU THINK AND HOW YOU WANT ABANTU BAKUBONE NGAKHONA ELECTED CHAIRMAN.

I'M OUT

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#12952 - 05/31/05 08:03 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Sheik Mthembo Offline
Ndunankulu

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Musupa, I have not in anyway suggested ukuthi ukhuphe umfanekiso lo kaSharon. You can keep it mfowethu and that is your choice and right. It is however within our rights to criticise the zionist Sharon and his zionist terrorism that has caused so much suffering to the palastinians and to Mthwakazi as well. The fact that he has propped up a regime of Mugabe by selling it dangerous police vehicles esetshenziswa to persecute our own people speaks volumes about this man's tyrannical tendencies.

I am not going to get into the peripheries of this criticism which is directed at Sharon and his Israel state sunctioned terrorism!

If this has offended you mfowethu, please know that it was not my intention to do so but merely to point out that this Sharon chap has contributed directly to our own persecution by Mugabe and his cohorts!

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#12953 - 05/31/05 08:17 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Sheik Mthembo Offline
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Registered: 12/27/02
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........Musupa not only is one concerned about isithombe sikaSharon olaso but this quote of yours ekusiginetsha yakho mfowethu ethi:


"Everybody has to move; run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements, because everything we take now will stay ours. Everything we don't grab will go to them"


Is it Sharon who said this? If it is not Sharon, it is indeed one of the Israel people who are happy to grab the land that is not theirs just like the colonialists did in Africa.

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#12954 - 05/31/05 08:32 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
samdala Offline
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Registered: 08/21/02
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Loc: lexington
Chairman Mthembo,

I couldn't agree with you more. Sharon is a bloody terrorist. Even George Bush had to tell him that his massacre of Palestinians could no longer be supported. How does one support the bombing of unarmed civilians with tankers and gunships, in the name of smoking out militants?

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#12955 - 05/31/05 09:41 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Msupatsila Offline
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Loc: Solongo Life
OK UNDERSTOOD KODWA NGIMANGAZWA YIKUTHI ANGAZI ANY COUNTRY WHICH MANFACTURES WEAPONS ENGAZANGE YATHENGISELA THE ****A REGIME IZIKHALI. USA DID IT, UK DID IT AND ALL THESE OTHER COUNTRIES WHY ARE YOU SINGLING OUT ISRAEL OUT OF ALL THESE COUNTRIES. WHO RIGGED THE 1980 ELECTIONS?? KODWA KUZWAKALA SOKUYI ISRAEL ESIHAMBELANA LO ****A. INENGI LISE UK OF WHICH THE SAME UK WAS QUITE DURING THE GUKURAHUNDI ERA ISIQALA UKUKHULUMA NOW COZ THE FEW WHITES WHO WERE IN ZIM WERE BEING EVICTED. ITS NOW THAT WE START TO HEAR ABOUT HUMAN RIGHT. KANTI LEZO HUMAN RIGHTS ZAZINGEKHO NA IN THE 80s. KHANGELA YONKE NDAWO MNUMZANE. UYABONA SIDUBA NGOKUBONA UTSHANI OBUSELIHLWENI BENYE INDODA SINGAKABONI IMIGOQO ESEMEHLWENI ETHU.


I SUGGEST THAT IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS, WE START A NEW TOPIC RATHER THAN OVERSHADOWING THE CURRENT TOPIC WITH THE ARIEL SHARON ISSUE.

THANK YOU

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#12956 - 06/01/05 12:15 AM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Sheik Mthembo Offline
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Musupa baba we are just a people taken aback and shocked by your zealotry and fanaticism of this fat terrorist that goes by the name of Sharon of Israel Republic!

I think it is our right to question this disturbing fanaticism of yours which goes as far as keeping isithombe sikaSharon and as well as buttressing it with a zionist quotation of the shameless land grab fiasco that is going on unchecked in the middle -east by a terrorist state of Israel with Sharon as its leader!

Soon we will most likely be having someone with isithombe sikaMghaxa, who will be giving us all manner of excuses for keeping it as his trophy semifanekiso.

Ngiyayizwa indaba yakho yeCurrency and ngilawe njalo sisonke, kodwa ke ngike ngacela ngaphezulu ukuba ngike ngibe off topic so as to highlight insindabaphendule yakho le!

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#12957 - 06/01/05 12:25 AM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Sibambamahawu Offline
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Kanti kwathini ngompikisha wakho obukade umuhle okwamagama, oka"Shaka Zulu"

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#12958 - 06/06/05 07:09 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Msupatsila Offline
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Registered: 04/07/05
Posts: 656
Loc: Solongo Life
Thanx guys for raising the issue, konje why are Israelites fighting who are they fighting against. Do we know the history if Israel? If you get to know all these I think you will understand the reason why I support the Jews

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#12959 - 06/06/05 08:29 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Ndabezitha Offline
Sikhulu

Registered: 11/07/03
Posts: 268
Loc: T.O
[banghead] [banghead] [banghead] Jews , Israel, Ndarama, terrorist, Botha [banghead]

Knati besingakhulumi ngemali yako Mgaks ......

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#12960 - 06/17/05 02:42 PM Re: Currency name change from Zimbabwean dollar to Ndarama????
Msupatsila Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 04/07/05
Posts: 656
Loc: Solongo Life
Ekuhle bakwethu.

Kengibuze kanti akwenzi na ukuthi lathi eZimbabwe sijoyine i common monetary area "CMA" egoqela i RSA, Swaziland, Namibia kanye leLesotho.

What can be the advantages and what can be the disadvantages of doing such a thing. Ngikhangele ukuthi our economy ayimanga kuhle and the RSA economy which I think detemines the value of iRand is growing kuhle sibili, this will preserve ivalue yemali yakithi.

Angazi ukuthi abo Lobs labanye bathini ngendaba engafana lale.

Which one can be advantageous to us Dollarisation or joining the CMA and why??

Ncedani bantubakwethu. If anyone has ama websites with good information on this just post them on this site sibale ngobunengi bethu.

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