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#131 - 10/02/03 05:18 AM Did You Understand What He said?
Moyo Offline
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Registered: 05/17/03
Posts: 31
Here I refer to some of the words said by Mugabe when Muzenda died. A day before burial he mentioned that on the day Nkomo died, he felt pity because his left hand was gone. And on the day that Muzenda died he felt pain because he lost his right hand. He is a right hander himself (Mugabe), and inxele esintwini sikwazi kuyisandla sokutshetshela.
He went on to stress in his native Shona lnanguage that: abe MDC bemukelwe ku Zanu, njalo kufuze bazi ukuthi bangabantu njengabo. Badla amathumbu embuzi angakhanywanga, njalo bayawathanda. Is there anybody who recalls how the Ndebele came with the word SVINA - simple because kwakuthi nxa abantu behlangene kudliwa inyama amaShona ebonakale esidla amathumbu enjalo nxa bebuzwa ukuthi kungani besidla lengcekeza bona baphendule bethi hai si SVINA.
Now ths speech I hold hold it as a hate speech to the other tribe I therefore say Mugabe withdraw your speech without any condition.

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#132 - 10/04/03 07:20 PM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
BhudiMathawuzeni Offline
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Registered: 03/06/03
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vele ndoda into okuthiwa lishona ,yigcekeza

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#133 - 10/19/03 02:29 PM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
Tsibang Offline
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Registered: 10/18/03
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Loc: bulawayo
Wambona ngaphi umuntu odla igundwane eqambe amanga ethi udla imbeba.IShona lingumgodoyi njalo liyasincindezela njengomongameli walapha

siyavuma ....

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#134 - 10/28/03 04:43 PM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
hlathi81 Offline
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Registered: 10/14/03
Posts: 573
Loc: gwanda..
in short, 'ishona lishona' linja lotuvi...

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#135 - 11/12/03 12:26 AM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
Mlamlankunzi Offline
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Registered: 05/30/03
Posts: 65
Loc: Canada
HLATHI 21

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#136 - 11/12/03 12:35 AM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
Mlamlankunzi Offline
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Registered: 05/30/03
Posts: 65
Loc: Canada
HLATHI 21
hlathi ungani angikutholikahle
Kungani ukiliza uthi **linja lothuvi***
angikutholikahle
ulinyasaranda yini, hlezi ungabe usibhuqa nje
akulufundekahle ulimi lwakho ngoba ungakhulumakanjalo esowetho nguwe awukho

YIMINA THOLE LOMZANSI
LINABOMJOKWANE KANDABA
BAKOMZILIKAZI
ONDLELA ZIMHLOPHE
AMAWUNDLU KAMALANDELA
UMTHWAKAZI KANDABA
AMAZINYANE ESILO
OTHI 'MAUBALANDELA UYABE UZIBAMBELELA
THINA ESINYELA ENDLELENI SITHEMBE INKANI

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#137 - 11/12/03 11:48 PM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
Sai Offline
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Registered: 11/06/03
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Ibizo elithi SVINA (meaning Khama) lile historic meaning.Ngesikhathi sika Lobhengula, amabutho kaMthwakazi ethumba emashoneni, babe zingela ezibayeni zamashona.Inkomo bezihlinzwa lapho besenzelwa umphako ozabafikisa phetsheya kukaShangane beqhuba inkomo lenotho abazithumbileyo.Babethi bengahlinza betshiye amathumbu kuphela. Sebehambile amashona kuthiwa ayesala ethi svina matumbu yikho lapho okwavela leli bizo besvina amathumbu alahlwe ngamabutho kaMthwakazi [kill] [kill] [kill]

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#138 - 11/13/03 04:04 PM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
kasikoponjalo Offline
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Registered: 11/12/03
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Ya lapha i think yindawo yokuchazeka nje siphethe amashona sisizwa ukuthi ngabantu bani. UMzilikazi kuyini okwamenza wathi ngamahole, ngubani oyazi kahle leyo mbali asitshele sonke....


iyabonana bakwethu...

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#139 - 11/13/03 04:11 PM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
Lobengula Offline
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Registered: 09/16/03
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Kasi

UMzilikazi wababiza amahole lababafo ngemva kokuba abeLungu (amaKhiwa) bebabize "ass-holes"

Kunjalo nje oka Matshobana laye wavela wathi ngama "hole" being a Royal gentleman as he was, he could not use the other three words before the suffix.

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#140 - 11/13/03 04:18 PM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
kasikoponjalo Offline
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Registered: 11/12/03
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ngiyakuzwa uzalazo asihlekeni sonke kodwa angazi kumbe okaMzilikazi wayesesazi isilungu by then.Omunye laye kabuye leyakhe imbali ukuze igcwale...

akengenyuke ngizophenduka njalo

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#141 - 11/15/03 12:19 AM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
Topi Offline
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Registered: 03/31/03
Posts: 52
Loc: beijing
sk

wenzani ehalale, uswele indawo yokuhlala???????

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#142 - 11/15/03 02:17 AM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
nakano Offline
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Registered: 11/15/03
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Loc: USA
EVERYTIME NXA NGISIZWA NGO MUGABE I GET A HEADACHE UBABA LO ULENHLAMBA( MUGABE) HAYI NXA

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#143 - 11/15/03 09:42 PM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
Sirumula Offline
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Registered: 10/18/03
Posts: 436
Loc: Bengo central place
Lobengula waze wangihlekisa mfo....nice theory.bengingakwazi sibili. [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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#144 - 11/16/03 12:39 AM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
DONSENDE Offline
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Registered: 10/01/03
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well i heard enye eyemvelaphi yebala elithi shona. angithi bona vele ngamazvezuru, amakaranga, lamandawu, lamavitori, lamanyika, lokunye okunenginengi. but ekufikeni kwamaPhuthukezi ananzelela ukuthi lababantu yintonye okwesindau, zvezuru ngumbhedo wodwa. ababiza athi "svena" meaning rubbish eaters or swines,yikho kwathiwa shona shona.

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#145 - 11/16/03 04:44 PM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
Vula Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
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Hatshi ca, Donsende, ulahlekile kancane, igama lokuthi "Shona" baletheswe ngamaNdebele. Ungalibali ukuthi abeNguni bethesa abeSuthu, abeSuthu bethesa amaNdebeble (babesith "Matabele"), etc. Izizatho bazichasisa kabili abaziyo :

1) NgesiZulu phela uku"shona" yikufa, yikho abeNguni abeza lenkosi uMzilikazi babengathi "ilanga selitshona" babesithi "liyashona". Yikho ungalibali ukuthi ezizwe ne zizwe (current Shona - amaKwerekwere (Kore Kore), Karanga, Zezuru, Manyika, Mabuja,etc) babesilwa bodwa kodwa ngaphambilini uZwangendaba wayedlule kulelizwe wabadlithiza loSoshangane laye waye senza santando empumalanga (amadingi"ndawo" - amandau phela - yizizukulwane zabeNguni). Yikho amaNdebele ayesithi ngokuyisizwe oku"shonayo" (ukufa phela) , yebo nje lesisizwe ngaleso sikhathi sasingazathi siya "shona".

2)Abanye bathi betheswa ukuthi "shona" ngo yayithi impi ihlasela babe baleke bangene embalwini ezintabeni, i.e, banyamalale nje,amabutho abe esesithi baya"shona" (they just disappeared). I think this is the current official version (more mysterious & romantic... [Razz] ). Ngethemba uyake uzwe kuthiwa "amasekelantaba"

Elokuthi "swina" lelo ngelokweyisana ngoba abanye bethu laba babesidla amathumbu bengawakhamanga (engahlanzwanga). Nxa usazi isiShona (Karanga, I think) uzathola ukubane incekeza lokukhama amathumbu libala linye, especially, nxa kusendlebeni zomNdebele ongazi kuhle isitshona

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#146 - 11/16/03 05:00 PM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
Vula Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
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Loc: SA
Kasikopanjalo lawe Lobengula, i"hole" are some of the tribes (mainly Shona) which were assimilated into the Ndebele nation after ukuthunjwa. Right now I think ama"hole" account for more than half of Mthwakazi. The Ndebele kingdom was tiered: abezansi, abenhla, amahole lamashona

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#147 - 11/16/03 05:39 PM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
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Registered: 10/01/03
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shwele wena kamaVula kuvaliwe leyandaba yamaphuthukezi lihlaya-nje ebelisetshenziswa ekolitshini ukubhuqa abetshabi there is no authenticity behind or any documented narrative kusafana lelobuhole zinsini-nje kuphela.

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#148 - 12/11/03 06:42 AM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
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ngicela abantu bakithi abasenkundleni, abase USA, le CANADA bangithinte ku e-mail: ngwana1maseko@yahoo.co.uk kesizameni ukwazana njenga majaha ase U.K.

Li Zwangendaba.

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#149 - 12/24/03 05:59 AM Re: Did You Understand What He said?
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umfoka Tshuma wathi isizungu kasibulali, aah, mina sesingiqede amafutha.

Lingizwe Mthwakazi kaNdlela zimhlophe.

Li Zwangendaba.

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