at collage (UZ) they are saying that ndebeles are tribal but i think other wise coz in zimbabwe this issue is viewed from one side ;the majority confers the ruling to the minority the minority's word has no effect wat do u think guyz

Who are they and what exactly is being said? Give us more background to your story. Show concern and care also about how and what you write if you expect to be taken seriously laphe khaya!

Secondly, this forum has readers of all sexes. Sicela igender sensitivity from you!

Hk hk

uSis uMabila uyatshinga uthi ucele igender. I support her. Kumele sibe Gender sensitive ezikhathini zonke. Ngiyabonga

Tribalism, Racism, isms, isms, etc etc kuyangokuthi ungubani njalo ufuna ukukukhangela njani.

Uyabona ezweni laphana ungakhangela ukuthi iracism ikhangelwe njani uyamangala. Ma onsundu esho izinto ezikhomba iracism komhlophe, hatshi akusi racism kodwa ma sokuvela komhlophe sokuyiyo. Kumane kufane nje lale tribalism, iTshabi lingatsho ubutshabi balo lizobone juice kowesintwini akusi tribalism kodwa owesintwini engakhuluma iqiniso, sokuyiyo.

Akulanto ethiwa yi tribalism, into ekhona liqiniso, ma ungakhuluma iqiniso wena usulu tribalist. Nangu uMabhena wafela ukukhuluma iqiniso, konke okweTshabi okumbonayo kuphonguthi itrabalist leli kodwa hatshi ukhuluma iqiniso ukuthi bayasincindezela.

Ngingathi igama leli liyangokuthi wena ukulikhangela ngelihlo bani.

MaNdeere arikuzenzisa, arikufuna kutonga nyika arisiriyabo. dzokerai kuSA, anditambi ini, ndinowuraya munu.

Hhayi bakwethu mina ngizizwa ngimakha, ngifana lamafutha ejuluka endevini zikaAroni waesBhayibhayilini uma bethi ngiliTribalist, ngoba lokhu kukhomba khona ukuthi ngiyobe ngibatshele iqiniso, kubona iqiniso eliphuma emlonyeni womuntu ongumNdebele yitribalism. So ndoda yaseUZ ungesabi ukubizwa itribalist, we have to convert this negative stigma that has been attached to us by "them big tribalists" to a positive fighting tool.

kanti i gender sensitivity ingena ngaphi kule itopic? l cant detect any signs of lack of respect from the above posting.Kumbe yimi engihlulwa lulimi?

Mnini

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Originally posted by lwazi:
[QBthe majority confers the ruling to the minority the minority's word has no effect wat do u think guyz [/QB]

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do u think guyz

nxa uLwazi ethi guys uqondisa umbuzo wakhe kusapho lukaAdam.Aluba ubebuza losapho lukaEva ngabe uthe yena folks, Mnini

Mzukulu loMabila

guys let's be serious akulalutho olubi la vele uguys is now transgenda mina vele lezitshomie zami ezingomasge sibiza guys even gents sometimes ndoda angiboni ukuthi uLwazi ukunanzelele lokho akulalutho lingesabi uguys usigoqele sonke ikakhulu lina elilengqondo ezibukhali thina esithathela khatshana siyobesilandela sivuma langamakhanda lanxa seqiwe.

Mzukulu loMabila

guys let's be serious akulalutho olubi la vele uguys is now transgenda mina vele lezitshomie zami ezingomasge sibiza guys even gents sometimes ndoda angiboni ukuthi uLwazi ukunanzelele lokho akulalutho lingesabi uguys usigoqele sonke ikakhulu lina elilengqondo ezibukhali thina esithathela khatshana siyobesilandela sivuma langamakhanda lanxa seqiwe.

Lembe has any of your female friends ever called you "Masge"?

What would your response be if they did? Could Masge ever be accepted as a transgender term?Kungani abesintwana befanele bathi accept colloquial transgenda terms with male connotations and not vice versa??

never before and angazi ukuthi ngingezwa njani it will be funny i guess, but for sure somebody or some people have said mankazana ngikhona ikakhulu nxa kuyiwo amanengi well ngangikutshaye indiva nje ngilalele lokho abakutshoya, esikhathini esinengi i-emphasis iyabe ingekho lapho like iposting kaLwazi. But your qualm can not be ignored especially nxa usunikeza isampuli elingaphezulu hayi kuyezwakala, ingabamunywana .

sorry lady Mabila loMzukulu ,abantu abalenkinga zimpintshi zami ezingamantombazana ngoba ziyavuma mangithi Guys kuzo.

Lwazi
General abantu besintwini are not tribalists,they only respond to a system that is,in itself,wholly tribalist. lf you look at uMthwakazi,you realize that it is a nation that comprises a plethora of tribes that are closely intergrated.

Lapha okubizwa khona lawo matiritiribhili kumbe kuyini khonokho lami ngitholakala ngikhona, ngibizwe ngisabele, ngisukume phezulu, ngime ngezinyawo. Phambili labo lobo butrrtitri engxenye yibo obungaletha inkululeko kaMthwakazi.

Ayihlome bakwethu!

Tribalists?these people are not serious,who started it,they have victimized our people,alienated them,publicly shown us that if you dont have a shona surname you can't have a thing in that country and i dont blame any ndebele person for being tribalist because they simply cannot trust these people "shonas" because of what they did in the past,even today,so the best resistance we can do is to publicly stick together.

They dont want to see ndebeles together, they feel threatened,Nxa bangasibiza amatribalists mina ngiyathaba kakhulu.

hk hk lingibona ngihleka nje akusikuthi ngiyathanda. abeshabi baleziga shame. kwelinye ilanga ematshonafm sasikhuluma ngolimi lwethu bathi sikhulume abakuzwayo sabadobha sabatshela okwabasusa ekhaya hk bathi we are tribalist kuthe sekungene umsakazi wabo owakomthwakazi wafika wathi nxa ulitshabi ulishabi nxa ulindebele ulindebele bathi he's tribalist hk hk.

wavula amalines ngama 11.30pm ukuthi sifone sitsho esikucabangayo ngathi ya amatshona bawayekelela bona kumele bakhulume okuzwiwa yibo kodwa bona bengafuni kukhuluma okuzwiwa yithi yinto enjani bayadelela liyazi.

LEMBE ungaxhophi udadewethu ngoba uzakuxhopha womabili asazi ukuthi odade uzobabona ngawaphi hk hk hk hk.

Maybe we are,but because they made us be,i am not really bothered and i wanna be.

Mabila,

While ngihlonipha the deep thought behind your concern about the colloquial transgenda terms I feel that you are over generalising the matter. Look at both sides of the coin just like those who call others tribalists do.

The fact is while that word 'guyz' has the so called connotations, it follows after all the events of life. World over abesifazi baqala begqoka what we use to call dresses and now they dress like men. Only the scotts men dressed like women and they always did.

Women make victims of themselves, look at how the African woman has made it reality that a woman is not a woman until she has hair that looks like the white lady's hair? Women have made themselves look maliable, so be it!?

A TRIBE is a social group of people comprising numerous families, clans, or generations who have common characteristics, practices and interests. They have a common language, beliefs, aspirations i Khalutsha! A tribe is not self-made, it is created by God for a specific predestined divine purpose.

By birth and creation if you like; I am Ndebele not Zezuru, not karanga, nor Manyika. No one should punish me, discriminate me or isolate me on the basis of my tribe. I do not aspire to be anything else but inzalo ka Matshaobane! For many if not all of us, our dignity, our being, our wealth, our prosperity hinges on who we are as a TRIBE. NO one can take that away from us. It's an impossibility. My tribe is my most fundamental and basic natural resource eyedlula igolide le ndayimana. The sooner we acknowldge this fact as different tribes in Africa, the better for us. Globalists are promoting the "Simunye" agenda for profits. Ongakuboniyo kakudinge uzakuthola!

UMgabe has failed to harness the strengths of the different tribes kweleMzimatshe for the benefit of that country. He is not a nation builder! Eyakhe i strategy has been the hateful tribalism we have seen through the unleashing of Gukurahundi to wipe us out and the systemmatic exclusion of uluntu lwethu from power. As we know that strategy has failed dismally. Siyazi ukuthi his leuitenants will do the same thing to protect the gains abazenze kuMgabe. We are tribalists but will not practice tribalism. We want what is best for US ngoba there have been clear demonstrations that no one else will. We need to develop our region and our people in a context we understand and appreciate. Icala lingaphi ke lapho.

Lwazi ,

uma betsho njalo atshele amalutshwana uthi wena kwenziwa yibo ,bese uyathula nanku phela phela wena inombolo zikwenza ulahle ithawulo masinya nje .

Lokhu uMabila akulobileyo kuyabukeka ,umcacele umfowethu uLwazi.