Udaba lolimi lwesiNdebele lusatshisa, akesixoxeni ngokuthi kanti ngobani labobantu okuthiwa ngamaNdebele.

Ukuthi lelo bala,"NDEBELE" litshoni, ngizatshiyela abanye bangincedise, ngoba labadala engike ngaxoxa labo bangipha ingcazelo ezehlukeneyo.

LIYIBAMBENI BAFOWETHU.

I Nkosi yohlanga u Mzilikazi yahlanganisa lezi zizwe ezilandelayo yakha isizwe sathiwa ngu Mthwakazi. Abantu balesi sizwe bathiwa nga Ma-Ndebele:

ISIZWE.........INDUNA............ ULIMI
Khumalo........Mtshane........... Zulu
Ngwana.........Nyamatana......... Swati
Barolong.......Moroka............... Sotho
Hlomuza........Sipika/Sambana....... Zulu
Mlotshwa.......Mlotshwa(Nkomo)...... Swati
Batlaping......Somisi............... Sotho
Batlokwa.......Philane.............. Sotho
Nzunza.........Magodonga............ Ndebele
Sibide.........Mdala................ Ndebele
Ba-Pedi........Matlala(Mnguni)...... Sotho
Manala.........Sibindi.............. Ndebele
Bakwena........Sitshela(Ngwenya}.... Sotho
BamaNgwatho....Sekhume.............. Tswana
BaNambiya......Silozwane/Zanke...... Lozi-Nambiya
Mangwe.........Mdolombo............. Lozi-Kalanga
Balilima.......Mkibe................ Lozi-Kalanga
Magololo.......Sebetwane............ Lozi-Kololo
Bathwa......... -- ............ --
Batswana.......Sibindwane........... Tswana
BaSuthu........Tshupula/Manyoba..... Sotho
Bavenda........Hwadalala............ Venda
Bavenda........Somabulane........... Venda
Tonga..........Gudu................. Tonga
Ba-Nyayi.......Thuphane{NDUMBA}..... Lozi-Kalanga
***Tshibi......Zhizha............... Karanga***

*** This last tribe, abaka Tshibi, yibo abaliwa ukutletlwa yiNduna uLotshe. Babesetshenziswa kakhulu ukwelusa inkomo zeNkosi. Yayi zehlukanisa inkomo zesizwe inkosi isenzela ukuthi kungaba lomkhuhlane, loba isizwe sihlaselwe ngezinye izizwe, zingalobi zonke inkomo zesizwe.

Induna uZhizha yaba yiyo yakuqala induna yesi Holi ukubulawa ngamaKhiwa e Fort Victoria.

Sakhiwa ngaleyo ndlela isizwe sika Mthwakazi. Omunye lomunye asichathekele akwaziyo ngomuzi wakwabo lenduna lamaqhawe esizwe.

Li Zwangendaba.

Zwangendaba, I tried to research on this topic to no avail. Perhaps you can go on and shed light on this Kingdom we are all kin to resuscitate.

Perhaps you can also offer probable borders and reasons for them.

Thank you.

Look for the following books: The Matebele Journals by Robert Moffat, uMtshede / The History of Rhodesia by Robert Blake / European Politcs in Southern Rhodesia.

I also have had Audio and Video recorded interviews, all personal, af a few chiefs, and izangoma. I deliberately targeted those of non-Nguni origin because I wanted to correct the myth by some citizens that there was descrimination in the Kingdom of Mzilikazi.

The original Izinduna were understandably of Zansi stock, but as the society grew, more none Ntungwa/Mangwe people were integrated into the rulling ranks of the Kingdom.

My mother is a Suthu, born by a Kalanga woman from the Lilima tribe. My father is a Swazi born by a Zulu woman from the Gumede Clan. What does that make me??? an inquisitive half cast {(FULL BLOODED NDEBELE) for that is what we Ndebeles are},trying to correct the mis-representation of our people to the world.

Amakhosi o Khayisa basaphila. Bayawazi umngcwele weNkosi. Ubulandela umfula umnyathi, usuka ku Gwembe. Uthi ugeqa amaqaqa e Sigala, Mvuma, uthathe umfula u Sabi uze uyekuma ngelizwe lika Gasa. Kwelaba Tswana, ubulandela amagceke ema Kgadikgadi, wehle uzolandela umfula umkhwebane, uze uyekuma ngomfula uMbengwana (Limpopo).

Umfula umnyathi ubuvele ungumngcwele kaMambo, iNkosi yama Kalanga. Imbali ithi yona akazange alwe lo Mambo uMzilikazi. U Mambo wethula abantu bakhe eNkosini, uMzilikazi wamamukela njalo sizwa kuthiwa uMambo ubebusa kwezamasiko embusweni ka Mthwakazi.

Izingoma zingumlando wesizwe. "KUDALA KWAKUNGANJE ............KWAKUBUSA ..........

Lamhlanje those who want to distort History for their own benefit are trying to say uMambo ubeliShona. That is not true. Ugogo ozala umama li LILIMA, and she comes from that clan eyaba ngamaNdebele due to the Mambo integrating into the Ndebele Kingdom.

I am trying to put my book together as the Shona regime refused it to be published in ZImbabwe. I hope it will contribute that little I got from the concerned Kalanga whom I share blood with about the state of Mthwakazi.

I know I have not satisfied you quest, but I am not the final authority. Our combined effort will help The Ndebele people identify each other and work for the building of Mthwakazi.

Mina ibutho labo khokho lithiwa yi Zimnyama. Yilo ebeligcina inkomo zeNkosi zamaNgubo. I leave you here for now. Yindeyinde le idaba.

Li Zwangendaba.

Bafowethu.

Uthe esezibuthile izizwe uMzilikazi, wakha amabutho akhe ngendlela elandelayo:

IBUTHO........................INDUNA.
Amagogo....................Maqekeni Sithole.
Amatshetshe................Sifo Masuku.
Babambeni..................Dakamela Ncube.
Dibinhlangu................Mletshe Thebe.
Eguqeni....................Mletshe Ndiweni.
Godlwayo...................DambisaMahubo Mafu.
Indinana...................Mfangilele Matshazi.
Induba.....................Lotshe Hlabangana.
Ingwegwe...................Mkhanyeli Masuku.
Inhlambane.................Thambo Ndiweni.
Inqobo.....................Mazwi Gumede.
Inqama.....................Somhlolo Mathema.
Insinda....................Tshuwe Gwebu.
Insingo....................Somabulane Dlodlo.
Intemba....................Mjojo Mlotshwa.
Intutha....................Mhabahaba Mkhwananzi.
Inyathi....................Ntabeni Gwebu.
Inxa.......................Ntshumane Khanye.
Inzwananzi.................Mpiliwa Magutshwa.
Isiphezi...................Maqundela Sigola.
Mabukudwane................Mayeke Mthethwa.
Mahlokohloko...............Mbambelele Hlabangana.
Magoloza...................Mankanyana Thebe.
Mbuyazwe...................Mhliphi Ndiweni.
Mhlahlandlela..............Gwabalanda Mathe.
Mzinyathi..................Majijili Gwebu.
Nyamayendlovu..............Mkhokhi Masuku.
Oyengweni..................Mlotha Khumalo.
Sizinda....................Maphisa Fuyane.
Zimnyama...................Mtshamayi Ndiweni.
Zwangandaba................Mbiko Masuku.


La ngamabutho awabuthwa yinkosi yakuqala yama Ndebele. Yakha imizi yawo yahlanganisa izizwe ezehlukeneyo ezazibuthwa endleleni isiza khonapha kuMthwakazi. Abadala bathi kuse budlaNondo. Akelingincedise Mqondobanzi. Ngisafuna ukunatha amanzi. Njengoba lapha e USA akula Mqombothi.

Li Zwangendaba.

I think zwangendaba ulamanga ,it's just that I don't have time right now ,but I was going to chasisa everything njengoba kunjalo,,,,but I sure tomorrow I will have the time yimina umfoka Mhabahaba
thole loMzansi

As far as I know those are Mzilikazi's regiments. There is another good book yoiu bdid not mention Zwangendaba, the book "Mlimo".

By the way those regiments can be found in Blakes book, "Path of Blood".

Mabandla kaMjokwane
Nina beLembe
Nina bakaMashobane kaMntungwa kaMbulazi
Mawundlu kaMalandela
Nina beSilo
Nina bakaPhunga noMageba
Nina bakaMthaniya

Kwenzenjani abantu bakha inqolobane yomlando, besekuyaqhamuka ubhedane ludiliza? Ngisho isidakwana sakwethu (kwaNdonga) uMlamlankunzi othi uZwangendaba unamanga. Kamuva kwalokho akasiphi uvo lwakho. Yint' enjani leyo?

Kuwena Mhabahaba wakwethu (nami nginguNkwali, uShamase, uNdonga, uMntongenakudla) ngithi funda ukuhlonipha isizwe. Ma sithi mazibuyele emasisisweni wena udukiswa isizwe. Uphuza obunjani utshwala wena obukusanganisa kanjena?

Nzalo yamaQhawe:

Ngivumeleni nami kengibeke owami umbono ngalezi ndaba zamaviyo eNkosi yoHlanga, iNgonyama kaMthwakazi, umasila ngokuthubela. Ekuqaleni, kuyimfanelo bakwethu ukubana singalibali amanye amaviyo aphathisa kakhulu ekwakheni nesiSizwe abathi uMthwakazi. Ikakhulu, masikhumbuleni iviyo okwakuthiwa "Izimpangele". Bheka, yibona abasuka neNkosi khona lena kwaZulu. Iningi nabo naphangalala ebusika ngonyaka ka-1837, napho bahlaselwa yimpi kaZulu; ithunywe ngu-Dingana. Bakwethu, Izimpangele kwakuyiviyo lamaqhawe aluhlaza. Yibona futhi abalwa kanzima eNtumbane, belwisana nempi yeLembe. Kumqoka futhi ukuba siphawule amaviyo abunjwa ngasenhla kaNgulukudela. Ngomlando wakwethu, namabutho awela uNgulukudela neNkosi yilana: Izimpangele, Insinda, kanye neNzanayo. Mawukhumbule futhi ukuthi nyakana bewela nelozwe, omame, abantwana, amakhehla, kanye nezalukazi, bachashiswa yiviyo okwakuthiwa Amakhanda Amnyama, lona ebelikhokhelwe uGundwane Ndiweni.

Mfowethu Zwangendaba, sengathi ulibele amaviyo amabili: amaDlampondo kanye neMpande.

Ngiyabonga, nina boHlanga.

Iyahlabusa bakwethu kuze kuthi nga lokwakha isizwe sikukhuthalela njengo kulonda imbali! Ukuze izwisiseke kuhle khumbulani ukuthi kulenduna zikaMziligazi kube lenduna zikaLobegula. Isizwe sakwethu besakhelwe ngaphansi kwenduna ezine. Zimi kanje:
INDUNANKULU ISIGODLO
Maqhekeni Sithole Igabha
Majijili Gwebu Amnyama
Dlundluluza Dlodlo Amakhanda
Gwabalanda Mathe Amhlophe

UGwabalanda Mathe nguye obeyinduna yezinduna.Ngaphansi kwendunankulu inye ngayinye bekulamaviyo edlula itshumi lanhlanu. Kuzakuthi ekutholeni kwethu uzibuse sizayihlahlula bakwethu.

Pho sokhonona kuze kubenini? Uma ulesifiso sokumela njalo usebenzele uMthwakazi la ukhona thumela ikheli lakho ku mqomagonya@yahoo.co.uk sizakwethulela esikwenzayo ngapha

Liyibame kahle Mahlabezulu. Kudala ngacina lapha enkundleni.

Liyayibetha kakuhle imbali yakwethu.

However nxa sesisiza kwezempi eyakwethu kumele sinanzelele kakhulu.

I am worried ukuthi abantu abanjengabo Magonya, who are known to be linked to CIO and probably work for it, as it is now well known, beza lapha enkundleni be adivethayiza ukuthi kulomsebenzi abawenzayo okaMthwakazi.

Linanzelele bakithi lizakutsha.

Vele siyamuzwa l'undoda, bakhuluma ngaye ngapha langapha, bathi usebenzela isitha.

Qaphela ndoda, uzafakwa i necklace ngelinye ilanga. Uthi asikuboni okwenzayo, is'thutha nguwe.

Bafowethu

Ngizwa ngiphelelwa ngumqondo langamandla ma ngifunda imibhalo le emibili engaphezulu. UMagonya yindoda esiyazi ihlonipheka njalo imibono yakhe izimele yodwa (independent). Le ngenye yamadoda athenjwe yisizwe sikaMthwakazi kwezemvelo lesintu sakithi. I have always regarded him as a conservative Ndebele icon. UMfokaMasuku mina ngibona ingathi bayamsukela nje befuna ukungcolisa igama lakhe lemibono yakhe ekhaliphileyo mayelana lesizwe sohlanga. Lokhu okwenzakala kuMagonya kufanana xathu lalokhu okwenziwa kunkosi yohlanga uLobengula through distorted and adulterated history where they say he sold the country when he actually died on the battlefront fighting & defending his people and country while the likes of Kaguvi & Nehanda were hanged without offering any resistence.
Bafowethu we must read the fine print before condemning our brothers to mental exile and adulterated existence. Lets not alow our enemies to apply the dubious & discredited theory of McCarthyism on our brothers by branding them members of heinous organisations which have no track record other than eliminating our tribe.
However, it will be interesting to hear what our brother Mqo Magonya's response is on this damning indictment on his good person. Maybe iam jumping to his defence, but my concience tells me iam doing the right thing.

Serwanz no Shaka (phecelezi Tshaka ngolwakini!)

We madoda! Nahlakaza isizwe kanjena nje? Nabheca uMagonya ngobubende inyama engayidlile nje? Buphi ubufakazi bokuthi usebenzela uMgodoyi? Madoda, ningasilokothi ngamahlaya enu!! Awahlekisi, ayahlinisa, ayanyanyisa!

UMagonya ngimazi bukhoma. Ngike ngasebenza kwisikole sakhe kwelikaMgodoyi cishe ngo ’96. Yindoda eqotho, enomqondo ojule kuhle kwegama layo. Ubebambe iqhaza kwiMbovane, inhlanganiso evuse usinga namadlingozi kumina nabaningi abakhaliphile, hhayi imilopholo eyinina! UMqo uyibekile induku ebandla, ulibambile iqhaza lakhe, ugqamile emphakathini wasenza saziqhayisa ngobuthina! Nina benikuphi wemadoda? Liphi elenu iqhaza ebenilibambile mavakandini? Abantu abafana njengani yibona abasebenzela ukucekela phansi thina beLembe. Ninomona, nomhobholo! Nilwela ukuletha ububha nobuntembuzane kwisizwe sakithi!

Nibamba elika “bathi” kuphela! Akenisho ngempela ukuthi niyizwaphi lento! Cobelani ufalaza phela wemadoda, nansi Inkundla ivulekile!

Siqinile esikaMageba esithi, “umlungisi uzithelela isisila”. Yikona ukubonga kwenu kwiqhawe likaMthwakazi lokhu? Nilingisa inja eluma oyipha ukudla. Yihlazo leli!!

Into yakuqala kufuneka sazi ukubane uSerwanz no Shaka lo bona basebenzela bani kumbe ngobni. Kulula phela ukucatsha ngomunwe (ngemva kwekhomputha) uthi uzibani unje, yebo nje, lingabe limqotho lelo kodwa kuyasolisa ..

Hayi bo!! Aling'tholanga kahle hayikhona. Ngithe siyamuzwa bemkhuluma ezindaweni, buza noma ngubani uzakutshela.

Kungani bemkhuluma. ngumona wabantu nje? hayi madoda, kukhona okukhona?

Lokhu eselikhetha ukuphikisana ngakho majaha esilo sohlanga yibuwula.
Lumfana elithi usebenzela opasi lingathi lokho okuphuma emlonyeni wakhe yikuphosisa,hatshi uvele unjalo.Mkeleni awufeze umsebenzi akhetha ukuwenza,lingamgconi,lingamesabi,mthembeni ngowenu.

Ujaha ukhule simkhangele simazi engakabi wulo elimbonayo.Ngigcizelela,ngingaphoxi kulabo abamazi ngobuhle uMqondobanzi.

MaNdebele lesababelani katshana?Lemazweni liwasaba amaCIO kamgabe.Yini eliyesabayo?Lingazibuyiseli emuva.Ngaphandle kokuchaza iqiniso ngaye lujaha ukhona na olokunye akwaziyo hatshi i-speculation le-hear say yenu SERWAZ.

Ngilithanda bafowethu sisakha isizwe sethu,akungabi yikwesabana okuzabuyisela emva.I-hear say ayisebenze layo kodwa ingabi ngeyokutshaphaza.

Mtembeni lujaha.Nxa kukhona okukhona akuvele egcekeni kungabi yikunyeya engikwazi ngikhula kungokwabafazi.

Ngiyayizwa indaba ngoMqondobanzi Magonya ijaha lasemaQwabeni. Ngithanda ukubeka engikwaziyo ngaye hatshi engikuzwayo.La amajaha amabili athi uliCIO ngamasela bona ngokwabo njalo balomhawu. Ngubani othandabuzayo ukuthi nxa lamhlanje kungathiwa kulesicoco okumele setheswe iqhawe koMthwakazi ngokumela aMaNdelele lobuNdebele ngobuqotho inkatha iwela uMagonya. Lamhlanje umntu wonke uzithi uYimbovane njalo ugwaba ngayo kunye lawe lami. Ngubani owasungula iMbovane? NguMagonya. Ngubani oqale iVukani MaHlabezulu eyenza iskhumbuzo seGadade? NguMagonya. Ngubani owaqala iNhloko eyiyona eyahlokoza iskhumbuzo senkosi? Ngu Nyangazonke, Cont Mhlanga, Phathisa Nyathi lo Magonya. Ngubani ovuselele iZapu? YiMbovane ngo1998 May 26. Imbovane ngubani? NguMagonya. Ngubani owanika uBekithemba Sibindi esiziqhenya ngaye lamuhlanje iPresidency yeMbovane? NguMagonya. Ngubani ovuse uMthwakazi wahlokoma kwahluma iMDC? YiMbovane. Imbovane ngubani? Ngama offices kabani abeyi HQ yomzabalazo? NgakaMagonya? Ngubani oqashe okwedlula uMagonya engumanager koEdgars lanxa esenguDirector eSpeciss? Ngubani odabule iDairyboard koBulawayo leNational Blanket? YiMbovane, nguMagonya! Kengime lapha ngemisebenzi emihle ngibeke imbuzo. Laba abamhawuzelayo umtakaMahlangu loQwabe bona benzeni koMthwakazi abazakhunjula ngakho ngaphandle kokugcona uMagonya?

UMagonya ufelani? Nansi impendulo. UMagonya waxotsha amanye amajaha kuMbovane bentshontshe imali. Amagama abo ngiyawazi njalo ngiyabazi. Kuthe kusiza izethekeli ekhaya zizokupha iZapu imali kwathiwa uMagonya loCont abaxotshwe ngoba asizukuthola ithuba lokweba imali. Lowo mhlangano ngabizwa lami uChairman kungenye indoda iyaze yaxotshwa umsebenzi ngokweba imali. USecretary kwakungujaha esimaziyo owabhubhisayo eUniversity ngokweba. Iqinga kwa yikuthi sithi bangamaCIO. ngikhumbula UMagonya encenga uCont ukuthi engakhalali ngemva kwe article eyaphuma kuDispatch ikhitshwa yila masela. Angifisi ukuthi ngibethe amagama kodwa amnyala anje uma eqhubeka ngizawabeka ebandla. Lonke liyabazi kuhle mhlophe.Kambe uma ubukhokheli bungesibo bakho uzihluphelani muntu? Asixhaseni amaqhawe anjengoMqondobanzi Magonya.

Uliqhawe Qwabe njalo uyisibane. Khula udlondlobale Magonya uMthwakazi ufuna amajaha amane kuphela anjengawe ukuthi asikhulule.
Kungakuthundubezi okungokhanka lokhu. Sisonke wethu!

Masakhaneni MaHlabezulu hatshi ukubulalana!
Ngiyabonga!

U Magonya siyamazi thina abanye bethu Uqobo lwakhe,lenhlanganiso okhulama ngazo siyazazi,uke wasebenza lazo,Iqiniso yikuthi Kodwa inhloso Ka Mqondobanzi Magonya ,kwakungayisiyo yokwakha lezi nhlanganiso,Injongo yakhe Lo Mugabe ihlezi ingeyo ku Bhidliza,Baqambe Magonya othi Bathatha Imali Malumami,Wesabani Kanti??Ungacatshi Ngomunwe,Uyinyoka, lawe uyakwazi Lokho.

The best Magonya can do is to Repent ,Atsho ukuthi akasa sebenzi lesitha.

Ngisebenze laye U Mqondobanzi Magonya,Ku Nhloko,Mbovane laku ZAPU.

Liqaphele madoda,Ke Ngibuze Wayaphi UMthandazo Ndema Ngwenya???

Liyeza elakho ilanga Mqondobanzi!!!!"Ulibambe Lingatshoni Ilanga"

"Silawo Amabutho ,angayisiwo Magonya"

Mawundlu kaMalandela

Ngiye ngasho phambilini ukuthi ngisabhibhidla, ngakho akulindelekile ukuthi ngingamumatha umthamo womuntu oyintothololo. Ngiseyimfundamakhwela kulomkhakha. Bengingenalo njalo anginalo namanje iqhaza engilibambile kwi-Zapu kunye ne Mbovane!

Kunjalo nje, le ndaba ka Masuku iyaphambili. Yebo kambe Zululizayo uza nendaba engacacile nhlobo. Okwakho nje amahemuhemu, amaganyana ombobozehluzo! Awububeki obala, kuhle kwengquza yembuzi, ubufakazi bokusebenzela isitha kukaMasuku. Mina angigculiseki ngalezinto ozishoyo wena Zululizayondini:

a) “Iqiniso yikuthi Kodwa inhloso Ka Mqondobanzi Magonya ,kwakungayisiyo yokwakha lezi nhlanganiso,Injongo yakhe Lo Mugabe ihlezi ingeyo ku Bhidliza”

Mnakwethu, ukhona umuntu ohlangene emqondweni ongasungula inhlanganiso enenhloso yokuyibhidliza? Pho uyisungulelani kwasekuqaleni? Isimame kanjani ke umphakathi wayilandela ma uMasuku ebehlose ukuhlakaza? Kungani uMgodoyi ebengaphathekile ngeMbovane neZapu ma uMasuku ebesebenzelana naye ukuphenya izilokotho zethu beSilo? Wena njengelunga elimsulwa lalezinhlangano, kungani ungabuvezanga ubunyoka bakhe ngalesosikhathi namxosha?
Ungakwazi ukubaveza obala na abantu benhlanganiso lezi (iMbovane ne Zapu) abangcungcutheke noma bashonela ezandleni zesitha ngenxa yezenzo ezimbi zikaMasuku esebenzelana nesitha?

b) “Baqambe Magonya othi Bathatha Imali Malumami,Wesabani Kanti??Ungacatshi Ngomunwe”

Mnakwethu, injula yesintu ithi, ‘iqaqa alihlinzelwa ebandla’. Pho ufuna imfihlo yeZapu ivele obala? Labo abaxoshwayo ngensolo zokukhwabanisa kungani bengayile enkantolo ukuze kuxazululwe ubumsulwa babo? Ma okaMasuku engabaveza obala la eNkundleni, kobe uziholele amanzi ngomsele ngoba bangakwazi ukumfaka emthethweni ukugeza amagama abo!

Njengoba uthi “Malumami” nje, ungowomndeni wakwaMasuku na? Ulwa eyomndeni yini? Ma kunjalo, nxese mnakwethu, asikwazi ukuyingena leyo ngoba isintu sakwethu sisho njalo! Pho uyizekelani la enkundleni?
Mhlasimbe ungomunye walabo abaxoshelwa umkhonyovu kuZapu na wena Zululizayo?

c) “Liqaphele madoda,Ke Ngibuze Wayaphi UMthandazo Ndema Ngwenya???”

Ungasilokothi we ndojeyana! Indaba kaNdema ibuhlungu? Ayihlobene neze nezinsolo zakho kokaMasuku? Phecelezi, this your cynical rhetoric question smacks of the discredited CIO agent tactics to intimidate us! We no longer fear nor care of / for creatures of your kind. A man dies but once and the revolution is sanctified by the blood of martyrs! Cowards like you die everyday as you tremble at the fall of our martyrs!

Lastly, heroic as you want to hoodwink us into believing you to be, vela obala sikubone phela! Rise above your anonymity, unmask your alias name and show your face in representing the people. Go on the frontline, lead by example, be selfless and tireless as is characteristic of all heroes. In these deeds, therein lies legitimate claims to heroism. There is no glory in ostracizing the brave and attempting to make Ishmaels out of them. You only become smaller than before, and the harder you fall!!

Mtongenakudla,

Nkwali yenkosi, Mhabahaba omuhle I concur. I fully agree with your noble views.I was reading the US State department report on the death of Mthandazo Ndema Ngwenya. They also concluded that there was no foul play, it was purely a driver negligence and a case of reckless driving. They collated the views of all the human rights groups and these were unanimous in ruling out foul play. The official inquiry into Mr Ngwenya's death concluded that it was purely due to driver negligence & recklessness. Pho bafowethu okaMagonya ungena ngaphi kulokho?. Given the fact that a bunch of thugs were fired from his organisation due to their knavery and thievery it is not surprising that they went all systems out to brand this Nguni icon a faceless CIO. They obviously did this knowing that this will find fertile grounds in the minds of those who are intellectially wrinkled and mentally kwarshiokored. Gents let's resist such naked and primitive McCarthyism. They tried it with our King Lobengula and nearly got away with it, now this time around we say no, no, no.

"Umagonya Yimpimpi"

Magonya why,wenza engani uyaqala ukuzwa ukuthi uyinyoka elamakhanda amabili,siyakwazi Magonya,

Mina bengingumfundi E UZ,and ngikhumbula abantu e large City Hall bekutshela nine-nine ukuthi usebenzala iZanu ,Wena wathoba.

Lina madoda elivikela Impimpi leyo,lizadana ngoba liyazi lani ukuthi abengisi bathi"there is no smoke without fire"

and this CIO tactics Magonya zokubhala as Different plp,azisebenzi.Why ungazivezi.

Iphendule Magonya Eka Ndema,Ungacatshi ngo Cont ,Laye ngomunye umthengisi ofana lawe,lonke labo Siwela liyafana.

Bakwethu

This is not a paradigm shift. I’m merely being true to the old adage that, “nothing beats the truth”!

Ulimi lwamaNgisi luthi: “there’s always 2 sides to a story”, besekuthi thina bakaMntungwa kaMbulazi sithi: “ngeke inuke inyama ingosiwanga”!

Njengelunga elinezimvo ezingachemile, angisilona ilabatheka. Angikwazi ukugibela isitimela ngingazi la siyakhona! Ngithanda iqiniso livele obala. Angifuni ukujulukela umsebenzi owubala!

Ukuze kungabonakali sengathi ngichemele kokaMasuku, ngithatha lelithuba ukubeka inselelo kuyena mayelana nalezizinsolo zokuthi uyimpimpi kaMgodoyi. Phecelezi, I’m taking the challenge right to Magonya’s door-step to tell us his side of the story!

Yebo kambe siwazwile amahemuhemu ezinsolo njalo aya ngokukhula ukusa kwamalanga. Kungenzeka ukuthi wena kaMasuku ubuka lezizinsolo njengobala, uhlwezana lwamaganyana ophoshozwayo angadingi mpendulo! Kodwa mina Mtubatuba ngithi cha, akunjalo – wobe uyageja, ushaye eceleni! Khumbula Magonya ukuthi: ‘izwibela ladl’ indlovu’!

Magonya: khuluma ndoda, kanti uthuleleni? Sekudlule insuku cishe ezilishumi nomuvo bekubeka izinsolo laph’ enkundleni, kodwa asikakezwa uvo lwakho ngalezizinsolo! Khuluma sikuzw’ umoya baba, igama lakho liyonakala!
Mhlasimbe ugajwe wuvalo ngoba inhlanzi isishelwe ngamanzi? Mhlasimbe u-‘blind’ kwimboni yokubulalisa uhlanga lwethu ngesitha? Ma uyimpimpi, vela obala ukuze sikwexwaye, sikudube kulomzabalazo wethu! Awufanelekile neze ukuphosa itshe lakho elingcolile kulesivivane sethu! Asibadingi abamdibi munye nesitha! Izenzo zakho zinomkhokha omubi ngempela! We can’t have a horrible asp amongst us!

The more uthulile kanjena, the more izinsolo zobuphekuli bakho zibhebhetheka emphakathini. Uzobukeka sengathi uzidlisa satshanyana kuthina, sengathi uzenza uNgqesta oyishaya phambili ayishaye nasemuva (phecelezi, simultaneously running with the hare and hunting with the hound!). Asinakho ukukwethemba nathi, hlezi usenze isilo sengubo kumakhosi akho imigodoyi!

Ma kuwukuthi umsulwa, veza phela ukuthi lezizinsolo wuhubhu kabhejane ndoda. Khuluma ndoda! Why must I & Nobhengula sikukhulumele? We are not your character referees – never were, never will be! Simsulwa! Sifun’ ukwazi ukuze sikwethembe ekusingatheni umzabalazo wethu lona!

However, if you are an ex-traitor on the rebound, sitshele nalokho! Sonke sinawo amaphutha – akusoka lingenasici! Vela obala ukuze uhlambulule unembeza wakho, nesitha sibone ukuthi ngempela usuyasiduba manje, usuyayexwaya inkohlakalo njalo uzimisele ukusebenzela uhlanga lwakho ngobuqotho! Mawenza kanjena, nathi bondlelazimhlophe singakwazi ukukuxolela kuhle kwendodana yolahleko ebhayibhelini! Usungakwazi nokubamba iqhaza ekwakheni lenqolobane kungekho kukhononda namagqubu emphakathini! Khuluma ndoda!

Finally, as Gerry Adams of the IRA once observed: “…the struggle is not over; it has only entered a new phase”. So it is with our revolution – another phase dawns on it. The truth has to finally out! We cannot continue covering the pitfalls in our homestead with tree branches & shrubs – lest our children fall into them; and therein lies the demise of posterity!!

Khuluma Magonya – khuluma sikuzw’ umoya!!!!

Madoda into kaMagonya le iyahlupha. Okokuqala abanengi kasimazi uMagonya. Lami nginje kangimazi njalo kangikaze ngisebenzelane laye kodwa indumela zakhe leC10 zigcwele umhlabana wonke nje lapho uMthwakazi akhona.

The issue is that why is Magonya such a target of such allegations which have reached every corner labantwana bakaMthwakazi if they are without substance?

Equally they say: There is no smoke without fire. I am not saying that these allegations are true but merely saying there is indeed something behind these allegations.

Magonya's name is awash with these allegations and it is time for him to prove himself otherwise and it is a tough road ahead.


It is very difficult to know iqiniso of these allegations but equally it has become difficult for people to work for an organisation lapho uMagonya akhona while knowing fully these allegations are there. Even though one is deemed innocent until proven guilty it gets difficult to work with one who is associated with Mugabe's dirty underground dogs of war.

The challenge is at Magonya's doorstep to shake off these allegations and demonstrate ukuthi kadlali lepimpi. However this remains difficult even if he is an innocent chap.

Indaba yakhe inzima.

Mthwakazi ngiyayizwa indaba yamaCIO. Lami ngisayilandela njengoba itshombuluka. Bengithi Mr Chairman ngiyinike isikhathi kuze kuthi ngolwesithathu ngiphendule. Isizatho kungeso kuthi ngisalinde ukuthi kube khona okubambekayo kwengisolwa ngakho. Okwamanje akukhonto elomswane ngaphandle kwehungahunga kuphela. Lingasiza uma kungabakhona oyedwa ongafinqa imzekeleso yokona kwami ukwenzala ukuthi ngiphendule ngiyitshaye ekhanda. UTshaka, uSerwanz, uZululiyeza loMzabalazo ababe ngamadoda behlube indlubu ekhasini hatshi ukucasha ngomunwe!

Ngisathume intombi zakwethu ukubana ziye kweluka amathikili mina ngisa bethele uphahla Chairman. Ngivumeleni ngiyibeke iskhupha kuze kube yiWednesday.

INkosi ibusise kunye labonyeyo!

Linjani bantabeSilo?

STHUTHA

iposting yakho engaphambili[top] ithi singawesabi amaC.I.O ngoba sisemazweni. ithi kancane mfana kamdala labobantu bayabulala lasemazweni bakhona abanengi sinatha laba siyabathanda njalo bengavezwa lapha ungaphikudlinja.QAPHELA!!!!!!!!

M.MAGONYA
Le abakusola ngayo angiyazi lawe angikwazi ibizo lakho ngiliqala eNkundleni ngilesikhathi ngingekho ekhaya. from yo posting i think wakha isizwe. insolo yami ngeyokucela ama-address. i think yikhona okwaqhamukumbango. believe me ngibala i-posting yakho iseyiyoyodwa bengakaphenduli abanye ngasola. lungisa khanalapho. may be nxa sifuna ukuhleba ngomzabalazo wethu singasenzisa ama-email b4 amakheli.

NGIYEMA.

Bafowethu.

Bengisayilonda le indaba ngoba ngithatha njengazo zonke izikhubo.

Okwakuqala, kuhle ukuthi abantu baphumelane eqcekeni, okwembuzi. Nakulokho kuzakwenza ukuthi sithembane. Asimelanga sesabe umnyama ongela mpisi. Yonke indaba ephica uzulu, yiyo le Inkundla lapho emele ixazululwe khona.

Okwesibili, kuyakhanya ukuthi isizwe sesisukuma okwamanje. Abantu sebehluzana. Kodwa kasinanzeleleni ukuthi singasebenzisi "o Bathi", ngoba bafowethu ngizalichathekela kancane, "basala abafowethu egangeni kulwelwa inkululeko ngenxa ka BATHI."

Okwesithathu, kuyakhanya ukuthi sekumele umthwakazi ongaphandle kwelize akhethe abazasikhokhela ezifisweni zethu. Lokhu kudala umbango. Bakhona abalindela ukusola, kungekho abakubekayo ukuze kwakhe isizwe. Bakhona abathiwa ngesi Kalanga, ngo "NDONDABO", ngoba ubani uthe uzibani kalunganga, lami ngithi kalunganga.

BAFOWETHU, ALIKHO INDEBELE ELINGAQONDISEKIYO. Nxa umfowethu u Mqondobanzi ephambuka, sikhona thina abaka Ngwana, sizamqondisa. It is very noble to punish a Ndebele than anyone else, because no fault is accepted from them. Yikho nxa uliNdebele, nanzelela, ngoba ungona kasikuxoleli, siyakujezisa, kodwa kasikuxotshi.

Sakhiwa njalo isizwe. I am sure those who want to see our downfall are the happiest now. Awu bantwana beNkosi yohlanga.

Le indaba ngiyiqale ngoba ngifuna ukuthi abantu bazi lapho sivela khona. OMUNYE WETHU UTHE NGILAMANGA. Kasitshele yena ukuthi amalokitshi akobulawayo kawaphiwanga lawo magama ezinduna lamabutho na?

Kangila manga Mthwakazi, ngikhuluma engikufundileyo ezingwalweni, lasebadaleni.

Asakheni.

Li Zwangendaba.

Bafowethu,

I personally think that as a Ndebele, I will feel a hell of a lot safer when being man-handled by a Ndebele CIO than having to be subjected to a Shona CIO elilamathumbu ayi green. Bafowethu, let's be honest to each other, where ever we go as Ndebeles, nxa ufika ku Road block uthola kulamatraffic cops esiNdebeleni, udlula njenge nkosana. E border you experience the same ma uthola i immigration officer yesiNdebeleni. I went thru hell at the hands of some Shona cops who summararily arrested my two friends (who are models) from a South African university for no other reason other than that they were immaculately dressed (the cops said it is unAfrican to dress like that). I told them traditionally our girls used to dress in even more skimpy outfits in the past. Witness the Swazi & Zulu traditional ceremonies for confirmation of this. I went to lay a charge of harassment at the local police station and demanded an immediate release of these ladies. T o all the shonas who were there my pleas fell on deaf ears until Ndebele officers arrived, when i explained to them they were disgusted and apologised to me and the ladies in question and ordered their immediate unconditional release. I thanked these Ndebele brothers profusely.
Based on this, my contention is that if the CIO have people like Magonya among them, then they(CIO) have been infiltrated indeed. This can only be to our advantage. It is equivalent to having a girlfriend who is a CIO, she will never allow or entertain a plot by her colleagues to eliminate you(the boy friend), rather she will alert you to the plot. Having Magonya serving as a CIO will be very close to having the late Joshua Nkomo serving as the leader of this hated and monstrous organisation. I personally think that if it is true that Magonya is a CIO he might have joined this organisation to render it completely useless just like what the former Rhodesians did (eg Ken Flower) who infiltrated the very CIO and compiled falls reports about possible "dissident activities" in Matebeleland thereby plunging the country into genocide to the chagrin of the Rhodesians. They managed to to turn the situation around into a black on black violance when the shona Gukurahundi demonstrated that they are equal only to the evils of Sodom & Gomora when it comes to beastiality. While I almost vomit when someone talks about these organisations (CIO, Gukurahuda,ZRP,Women's League, Youth Brigades etc) i nevertheless feel safer when i find a Ndebele among them. I remember during the Gukurahundi era valuable lives of our people were served by members of the Gukurahundi who could speak Ndebele, they were capable of translating pleas of mercy by hapless victims to their commanders at which decisions were taken to spare their lives. Hated as these organisations are, my contention is that the only effective way to render them useless is to counter-infiltrate them.In the end they won't know whether they are dealing with an intruder or an infltrator or a genuine Pasi olamathumbu ayi green, umfana odla imbeba konke lamathumbu ayo engawa khamanga, uPasi for life umfana ophuza(onatha) i skokiaan lovuka ng'khona utshwala beziboto(izibhonda) obuphuzwa nguMgaxabe.

Lobengula, uyazizwa ukuthi uthini nje?

Ungavumel' amanzi angen' endlini!!

Mqondobanzi

Mnakwethu, ngiyawuzwa umbono wakho! Kuyacaca ukuthi uyawuziba umbuzo nezinsolo obekwa zona! Kusobala ukuthi phecelezi, you are buying time!

I am not impressed at all.

The issue is: you are accused of the assassination of Ndema – plain and simple! Those are serious allegations that deserve a response by themselves! Strong threats have been used against you (eg ‘ulibambe lingashoni’ & ‘liyeza nakuwe’) What will have changed by the Wednesday that you are waiting for? What if no one comes in with anything? Will you forever hold your silence? Are you happy to be left with the harrowing accusation hanging over your head? How are you able to live with yourself everyday with the knowledge of such sickening accusations? Noma awusenaye kwayena unembeza & you therefore care less? Eish, indaba yakho ibucayi ngempela!

At least ndoda, you must know something about the Ndema issue which brought about these suspicions! That’s the side of the story that’s lacking! What was the nature of your association with Ndema that leads to these suspicions? Were you present on the day & site of his death? Why are you postponing a straightforward issue? Isho ukuthi ‘yebo’ noma ‘cha’ wabulala/awabulala uNdema! Ushukuthi uyakwazi ukulala ubuthongo behle ucabanga izinsolo ezibucayi kanjena obekwa zona? Mina ngeke nkos’ yami!

Or is it a case of : ‘icala ngumphikwa’ noma ‘akucala laswela izaba’? Or you are taking your time to test how much your accusers know so that you don’t reveal too much in your attempts to dispute the allegations against you?

If you think buying time will help your cause, then you are lost! A revolution can never be postponed. A wise Prof Jonathan Moyo (before he started prostituting his intellect) once said: ‘we will rather have our meal today & starve tomorrow, rather than starve today and wait for tomorrow’s meal that is prone to the vagaries of uncertainty!’

This speaks for itself viz a viz the allegations against you!

Bandla lakwethu nginibingelele ngemva kweside isikhathi.Ngiyayilandela lenkiyaya,insindabadala kaMqo, hhayi okwamanje iqiniso laziwa nguye yedwa.Ngoba phela abamaziyo abafuni ukuthi ithungelwe ebandla lenjobo. Kodwa ngizobacebisa abafowethu laba abahlongoze ngalezi zinsolo ukuthi babokhuluma bayihlakaze indaba icace bha singasali sinemibuzo ngoba manje nokuhle akwenzayo lomfo ngekesisakubona, ekanti bekuzoba gcono batsho konke abakwaziyo aziphendulele. Bengizothi mina angiyazi lendoda mathupha njalo nemisebenzi yayo emihle noma (emibi) bengingayazi ngesizathu sokuthi sengihlale eside iside isikhathi ngisekudingiseni.Kodwa ikeyavela kumabona kude lendoda ngalapha eNgilandi iyisikhulumi imele iqembu leZAPU, ngayibona ngathathwa ngumqondo wayo.Kuleyo ngxoxo umsakazi wazama ukukhumbuza uMqo ngemvelaphi yamuvana nje yeZAPU ephathelene nokubambana ne ZANU, phecelezi i"unity" kanti usezithintele umfo wase Kenya. Wavuka inje ebomvu okaMagonya ethi yena akaze angene ezingutsheni noMgodoyi, okwaze kwangenza ngadabukela lomsakazi wenkosi ngoba waphendula ngolaka lo owethu wena owabona egxotshwe emsileni.
Uma ngilalela izexhwayiso zabakithi la enkundleni ngibona sengathi kungenzeka kukhona akwaziyo uMqo ngezinsolo lezi. Lokho ngikusho ngibheke indlela athukuthela ngayo kuleya ngxoxo engichaze ngayo ngaphambili. Mhlawumbe kwakungukuvala ngolaka ukuthi singamsoleli ekudlelaneni nesitha.Ngiyahlwumbekisa nje.Ningizwe kahle bandla.

There seem to be those who are trigger happy to wag their tails in between their legs in support of the real CIO operative mnu. Magonya.

This is sad indeed but they should be made aware that they are straying into a dangerous territory infested with dangerous crocodiles.

To stray into a dangerous territory having been warned of its dangerousness is nothing more than a dangerous joke for oneself.

Those who hope to enter or are keen to enter into a Mthwakazi Revolutionary train with a known CIO operative from within our shores are making this Mthwakazi revolution a big joke.

That revolution can be best declared dead already. That organisation in which this chap will serve is already destroyed, dead and burried.

We have come to a crucial stage where we should not let those who work for Mugabe and his thugs continue to have a plaform to create confusion, chaos and ultimate destruction of our revolutionary organisations that we have started.

They should be denied that vital oxygen to do so at all costs.


Forewarned is forearmed.

Mayihlome!

Ngilibingelele bakwethu lonke elithe lathola ithuba lokuxoxa ngale indaba elethwe kulinkundla ngamajaha amane alangathela ubuntu bami. Ngithi kubafowethu abangisekeleyo amawele kini lonke majaha lezintombi. Sandisizwe akhule uMthwakazi adlondlobale. Kube zenzo kungemazwi Mthwakazi. Kini lina mavakandini ngithi likhumbule ukuthi sikulesisimo ngenxa yaboyihlo labafowenu abadla oNikita Mangena laboJ.Z moyo ngenxa yomona nje. Alifundi lingabanjani lina. Akuqili lazikhotha emhlane siyoyicela ivuthiwe majaha. Likhumbule ukuthi edale kungayiphunyuka ingqwele kuthiwa ngumfana wembuzi belo akufele lokhu umfana.

Ngodaba lobuCIO lolu ngizafisa ukuphendula kanje:

1) Ukufa kukaNdema
2) Bangobani laba, uTshaka, Serwanz, Zululizayo
loMzabalazo
3) Why pick on me
4) Uxolo


1) UNdema

Mr Chairman , i wish to apologise to my cousin Sindiso Ndema, Mrs Ndema and the whole family for my failure to consult them before i responded to these malicious allegations. I am sure that considering the level of vilification that i have been going through you will be able to forgive me.

Mr Chairman i say it from the geginning that Ndema and Themba Nkabinde were both my blood cousins.

In a meeting held at my offices in 1998 i gave the gentlemen a word encouragement and the reason never to back down. My words were as foloows and i will repeat them." In our present revolution we have lost men of substance and great commitment to the struggle. We all should feel responsible for their deaths as we are the people who use to clap hands for them where ever they spoke or addressed meetings. And by so doing we urged them to go on with the struggle.We are all responsible for the deaths of the likes of Mthandazo Ndema Ngwenya , Amos Dlamini and Kennedy Ncube. With regards to Ndema, by we i mean everyone of the almost two hundred people who voted him to the position of publicity secretary of Vukani Mahlabezulu. And i am part of that two hundred. We are responsible for his death because he died on his way to Harare where he was lecturing. He had arrived in the morning on saturday by train to attend the executive meeting at 2pm that day. Arrangements for his return ticket by train had been made already and after the meeting we drove to Tshabalala the five of us i.e myself, Ndema, J. M Gwebu, M. Mpofu and George Moyo. Mpofu , Moyo and myself lived in Tshabalala. We bid each other farewell and hoped to meet the next weekend as he had resigned from the university coming to join the city council next Monday.This was the last time i was to see my cousin. He drove away with Gwebu as they were neighbours in Newton West. Gwebu was to take him to the station later. Then came Themba who had gone to South Africa on business and they then arranged to travel together by road as they were both teaching at the university. He then agreed and then on their way they died. When i learnt of their death as i was approaching seven arts in Bulawayo we dismissed the message as propaganda considering that one time there were rumours that i had died on my to Lupane. We argued that Ndema had gone to Harare by rail" I will stop here as this is not a nice subject to talk about Mr Chairman. If by then you were alreay in the revolution unembeza wakho uthini wena? Don,t you feel you have a responsibility to shoulder the revolution?

So does it mean that had Dr Samukele Hadebe died when they were involved in a car accident on their way to Harere after the meeting we were all not going to claim some responsibility despite that he had come just for the meeting?

WHO ARE THESE COWARDS

Zululizayo: He is using the details of a Mr Moses Moyo who is in South Africa. I spoke to him on 11/03/04 at 14:09 on (****) and works for savana with a website that is under construction. He denies having posted such untrue and malicious stuff about me. He claims that someone had called him and that he was already investigating to find out who had his details. He said he doesn,t know me but has ready about me on new zimbabwe .com and that is all. He was actually very angry with this. The other one who uses this name is my friend Jethro Mpofu. I failed to get in touch with him so i cannot say much about him. You all know him either from the university or bUlawayo agenda. i do have vast experience with Jethro and we have respect for each other and there for it is improper that i discuss him without his knowledge. But once i talk to him i shall be back again.

TSHAKA
He is working for one allzimbabwe.com website based in South Africa and it is understood that he has his origins in Mashonaland and is linked to the Geoff Nyarota. He is a worshipor of one gentleman who chaired a committee that tried to oust me from my position at Edgars when there was a complaint regarding my employment criteria.
He has no subtance at all. He should stop abusing King Shaka,s name for Shaka was not a coward.

Serwanz and Mzabalazo
All i got is that these two are just on a band wagon and are being used because they have facilities. There are of no political quantities.


WHY PICK ON ME?
Mr Chairman i have gone through worse things in life. At one point in time after four attemts on my life , i went to the police central to complain about strange visitors who at one time identified themselves as members of the CIO. I remember one called Tom Shumbayawonda. CCJP got me a lawyer from the zimrights called Mrs Russel who together with one BBC reporter, Liqwa Gama, and Dumisani Mpofu and others were taken to go a meet one CIO boss called Mfunda who in front of everyone agreed and apologised for sending his officers after me. He did say that he was not happy because Imbovane was giving them problems. There is a lot Mr Chairman that we have gone through. So when these cowards start on me again i don,t get deterred at all. Zanu is aware of our capabilities and therefore they are not sure as to what is to come next. Considering what Imbovane did to them leading to their dismal performance in Matabeleland, they will make sure that they thwart any efforts before anything comes up. They will open fire from all salvos and employ all the resources at their disposal. Such resources include the likes of these cowards. I am sure that we are all mature people and are able to read between the lines.

If these guys have anything with substance i urge them to come out in the open.

I wish to ask you one question Mthwakazi: Why are these people talking about the Mthwakazi Revolutionary Army? Bangobani laba bantu? Kambe siyiziwula na? Hatshi bafowethu kunuka santungwana! Khumbulani ukuthi ingqwele bekuthi kungayiphunyuka edale kuthiwe ngumfana wembuzi akufele lokukufela bakwethu. Kambe ovusumvundla awusiwakhe?

As to why people talk about me it is simple for the work i have done for isizwe sohlanga. Or simple for what my fore parents were well known for. Siyinzalo yamaqhawe wethu!

I am sure it would be very interesting to hear from Qhubani Moyo, Jethro Mpofu, Joshua Mhambi, Gorden Moyo, George Mkhwanazi and Cont Mhlanga and Dr Samukele Hadebe.


UXOLO

Ngithanda ukuxolisa kubo bonke abathinteke kakubi ngenxoxo le kunye langamazwi ami. Benginga hlosanga ububi bakwethu kodwa ukhwakha. Xolani ngoba lami ngiyaxola lapho okube lezigwenxa khona.


To my wife i thank you for the moral and the spiritual support that you give to me and to the struggle.


To my sons Ntubakazulu, Dubindlela, Nkabayesizwe and Donsukusa ngithikini ubuzwe yilifa lenu njalo ukwakha lokuziqhenya ngobuzwe benu ngumlandu wenu phinde ukulondoloza ubuzwe bakwenu lizopha lenu okungadingeka ukuthi likulwele ngomunyumso. Ligawule libheka madodona ami, indlela imazombezombe njalo ilameva. Liyinzalo yamajaha hatshi eyabafana. I am proud of you my sons!

umkhulu lu msebenzi Chairman!

Indlamuva yinkosi bakwethu!

[ 18.03.2004, 13:11: Message edited by: e-Nkundla Team ]

Bayethe!
Mabandla kaMjokwane kaNdaba!
BakaMntungwa omuhle kakhulu!
Isangqumba sashay’ikhuhle kumasalamuzi,
Sabhuq’icole kumilingo yaMakhalanga!

Umningi kawuvusang’ umhlwenga,
Umningi kaligebisanga ikhanda,
Ukuba waligebisa kwaqubuk’ udaka
Ayeyosala dengwane amaShon’ emafukwini!


Bandla lakwethu!

Besekuba khona ukukhiyaza kumina ngenkathi uMasuku engaphenduli izinsolo abekwe zona. Besengiyanqikaza, ngiqagela ukuthi mhlasimbe uyibhubesi elizembathise esemvu. Besengimkhipha inyumbazana ngithi mhlasimbe ukuthola iqiniso kuyena kufana nokujaha utalagu! Bengiphokophele ngempela ukwazi uhlangothi lwakhe kulendaba! Nizokhumbula ukuthi isizwe sakithi sinenkamba beyibuza esayimekezwa yimigodoyi. Ngakho kudingeka sazi ukuthi, kwibandla lakwethu akukho umudli wezintandane zikaMageba ezisekudingisweni!

Kepha, cha uyibekile induku ebandla umntakwethu (uMqo). Ungivule amehlo, wangigculisa ngokupha uhlangothi lwakhe kwingwadla lena ethande ukuhlakaza isizwe! Besekuthande ukuba wuxhaxha lohlaka lwamathambo nje. Kepha, umntakwethu ukwazile ukufaka inyama, kwahlangana kwavaleka izikhexe!

IsiZulu sithi: ‘injadu yomhamb’ iyakhandlwa’. Mahlab’ayithwale, mina kaSomkhele ngenelisekile. Ngithi unwele olude kuwena. Angibongi ngiyanconcoza. Indoda ngenjalo!
Nxese mntakwethu, ngokukunqumela ugwayi katiki phambilini(ie issuing you an ultimatum).

Now I turn the heat on Mzabalazo, Serwanz, Zululizayo & Shaka! Gentleman, we have heard the side of the story unequivocally put across by Masuku. So what’s your take on it?

Please come with substantive evidence or else forever hold thy peace! It must be put to you guys that this is neither a game of chess nor a tribal council of the SURVIVOR series. This is the shaping of a nation’s destiny. To that extent therefore, those who are playing silly games ought to step out of this august platform –immediately! Akusiyona Inkundla yophoshozwayo, ombobozehluzo lena! Having delivered so much controversy with your as yet unsubstantiated allegations, please deliver the evidence. Sengiyaninqumela ke ugwayi katiki mina Somkhele: let us know your evidence within 7 days or less resign yourselves to being discredited misfits hell-bent on ostracising the brave, attempting to make yourselves bigger by pulling others down. If anything, I am led to believe that you might be the hired guns zikaMgodoyi ezihlaza isizwe sakithi ukuze kubukeke sengathi sihlangene phezulu, phansi amahele!

Bakwethu ngiyabonga

NguMntongenakudla kaNgogwane wakwaDlangezwa
Inxangiphilile.

Mfowethu Magonya,

Need we say more?, I think you have laid bare the facts and any man or woman of reasonable mental capacity should not find difficulty in understanding your exposition. You have taken us through the painful details of the death of your uncle and since this is partly a family affair, we hereby apologise to you and your family for discussing this in the public domain. I recently read your public condemnation of that self exiled "doyen" of Zim journalists Geof Nyarota whois said to be afraid of anonymity and oblivion, hence he started a similar smear campaign against business man Sipepa Nkomo accusing him of blatant tribalism. You reminded him that during his editorship of the Chronicle, he tacitly supported the Gukurahundi, you further reminded him that during his editorship of the Chronicle, out of a newsroom of more than 70 people in Byo, there was not a single Ndebele among them. Mfowethu that was well done. Lizakhumbula bafowethu ukuthi inhlanganiso zikaMagonya yizo ezisivuse umhlonga thina abakaBandwabalubande balutshiy'uZulu.

Having said this, may i put across to you Mqo that the spark that lit the powder-keg which in turn exploded into an ugly war of words, accusations & counter-accusations is the following statement uttered by one Tshaka:

"I am worried ukuthi abantu abanjengabo Magonya, who are known to be linked to CIO and probably work for it, as it is now well known."

In your well written exposition above, you do not come out clear and tell uzulu wonke jikelele ukuthi wena awumsebenzeli uMgabe njalo you are not associated with the Central Intelligence Organisation(CIO. To bring this issue to bed once and for all it would have been far much more effective for you to write a conclusion as follows:

Declaration

I hereby declare that ,I ,Mqondobanzi Magonya , am not a member of the Central Intelligence Organisation, its subsidiaries or any of its branches whatsoever. I have never worked for it and i do not intend to work for it in future howsoever.

Lapha mfowethu ngengenzela ukuthi sigqibeleni indaba le singatshiyi ezinye izigwenxa nxa siphendula abafokazi laba abacitshe bafaka izizukulwane zikaMzilikazi kungxubakaxaka yenkemenkeme yendaba, insinda baphenduli.Ngifuna ukuthi siqhubekeni ngengqubekela phambili yokwakha isizwe sohlanga. We do not want to be tied up in knots thereby degenerating into a hotch-potch of confusion which is characteristic of the present Zanu government.

In view of other peoples' privacy, the publication of other peoples' phone numbers (or physical addresses for that matter) by third parties will not be allowed. Such messages will be edited.

Mthwakazi,

Ngempendulo esiyiphiwe nguMqo ngemfa ka M.N.Ngwenya ngifuna ukwengezelela ngokuthi sonke esasimazi uNdema ngalelo langa sasisazi ukuthi ubuyela eSozibeli ngestimela nanku lamatikiti ayevele elungiswe phambilini.

Nami nginje ngamangala sengisizwa ukuthi usefele engozini yomgwaqo.Loba uMagonya eyimpimpi kambe wayengabe esesazi nini ama-changes awenza esesemzini wakhe uNgwenya.Kulokhu particularly uMqo ngomunye wamalunga e-Vukani Mahlabezulu owasala e-shocked njegabanengi.Njengoba etsho nje ekuqaleni kwalumbiko omubi kangaka abanengi esasicine sisazi ukuthi umufi wahamba ngestimela asiwukholwanga lumbiko,kodwa ke njengoba amanzi ayesechithekile ayikho into eyayingenziwa.

Labo aba lwisana laye lujaha qinani ngeqiniso litsho izinto ezizanceda uzulu.Sonke sifuna ukwazi iqiniso ngalokhu kubhicwa ngodaka kukaMqondozanzi.Ukuthula kwalabo abaqale lindaba
ngithemba akutsho ukuthi iqiniso sebelizwile ngoba abantu esibaziyo belobela lapha abanjengo Serwaz ngabe usetshilo ukuthi ubengatshelwanga iqiniso.

MaNdebele lingasebenzisi i-culture yamashona yokufuna ukuchitha isimilo somunye wenu ngamanga.Asimeni ngeqiniso,ngokungesabi,njalo sizimiseleni ukuzilwela.Phela o-pasi kunjenje bajabula kakhulu nxa sitshengisela ukungethembani lokusebenzisa amanga.Qaphelani hlabezulu umona,amanga,ukwesaba akusakhi isizwe.

Bandla lakwethu, nginibingelele.
Hhayi ke ngiyifundile indaba yokuzigeza komfowethu uMqo', ilusizi yona njalo ivuselela amanxeba kodwa ngoba umnyombo weqhakuva ebengithi lithumba usubhotshoziwe wakhishwa, bengizothanda ukuhhoxisa ezami izinsolo njengoba besengimadolo nzinyana ngaphambilini.Ukuhlabela phambili bengizothi uMqo athathe isinqumo esinjengalesi esingenhla esiphakanyiswe yithole lenkosi uLobs ukuze azigeze ngokugcwele ekutheni umdibi munye neC10.Ngemuva kwalokho bese esho ukuthi kanti vele yini lemizamo athi siyithumelele ama e-mail addresses kafushane nje hhayi ngokugcweleyo. Yinkundla le kuyakhiwa angithi.

Bakwethu

We have heard indaba kaMagonya. He has defended himself with vigour especially with the issue kaMthandazo Ndema.Kuyabongeka.

He has also lashed out at those whom he calls 'cowards' and we hope to hear from them soon.

We will not put any time limit to their response and we hope they will respond at the time of their choosing.

If not they should shut up and sheep out.

However Magonya has not been vigorous enough in distancing himself from Mugabe's underdogs of war.

It took Lobengula to do so on his behalf and Ncomanzi ukufaka isisindo sokumxakulula ukuba kakulankatha phakathi kwakhe leC10.

It would have been powerful and constructive to hear those words personally from Magonya. He has not done so.


Hlasela!

Bafowethu.

Bengicela kubaba u Ndukuzibomvu angincede ngezinduna zala amabutho: Amadlampondo, Impande. Ngenzela ukuthi ngithi edit my input above.

Ungixolele Mthwakazi abadala kabazange batsho ukuthi la amabutho abeyakhele ngaphi elizweni lika Mzilikazi. Mhlawumbe balibala.

Bengilokhu ngilindele ubaba u Mhabahaba ithole le Zansi. Ukuthi lilokhu lingakatholi isikhathi sokungiqondisa na?

Mina ngingu MASEKO, ngizalwa ngu Luphembe, ezalwa ngu Noyanda kaNgcebo, ezalwa nguNgwana, ezalwa nguNgcamane, iSwati lamathe amunyu, isihlangu sathundubeza imikhonto ka Gasa, uKuntinyela luka Ngwana olwasala emhlana ka Dlamini, Ingqungqulu eyatshayela amaphiko izilo oTshaka, Imatiwane le Ndlovu ichancala lesilo, I Swazi lemvelo ngoba laveza ubuNguni.

Uma ukhuza umNzansi, ukhuza thina.

Li Zwangendaba.

Usephumele egcekeni umfokaMqondobazi watsho elakhe icele kulendaba egxegisa amadolo,itshayanise amazinyo kusukume inwele uzibone usunqekuza ikhanda.Sokukini ke boShaka,labo Serwanz ukuthi lizigeze sizwe ngoba ukuthula kwenu kwenza sibe leminye imicabango ngani, ngoba njengoba omunye umfowethu etshilo ngaphambilini ukuthi lindaba inkulu akumelanga siyiphathe ngezandla zosane ngoba inhlwa ayibanjwa ngekhanda,sinikeni elilakho mayelana laloludaba ukuze siyihlaziye.ngilethemba ukuthi wonke umuntu usetholile ithuba lokuyihlaziya,ukuyicubungula,ukuyicacada kanye lokuyicacisisa insindabaphenduli leyi ephambili kukaMthwakazi,ngakho ukuthula kwabaqali bendaba kwethusa thina.Ngakho lani phumelani egcekeni sizwe elikumumetheyo ngoba okukhulu liqiniso..
Umfowethu uMqo uveze okunye okuhlabusayo ngalawa amadoda aqale indaba..kukhanya amabizo abo ayenza umuntu acabange kabili...ngingatsho ukuthi ngimela uMqo kodwa being optimistic....mhlawumbe lababantu they are masquerading as uMthwakazi ukuze basilwise thina sodwa singabantwana banye...ivele yiyo indlela yezinja ezingababulali.
okwamanje sizaginya amathe sithambise impimbo simelele ukuzwa kini baqali bodaba.buyani lazo sizwe bafethu ngoba ayisiwo madlwane lawa esiwenza lapha kodwa sizama ukwakha isizwe sikaMthwakazi.
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Sirumula homu tuna...mafenya tsila.

Bafowethu.

Uthe esewuqondisile umbuso kayise uLobhengula, wadiliza AMANYE amabutho kayise, ngoba engawathembi. Lawo ayengelacala, asala elokhu emi njengokubekwa kwawo yinkosi yoHlanga.

Nanka amabutho akhiwa ngu Lobhengula phezu kwamabutho kayise:

IBUTHO...................INDUNA.
Imbizo...................Mtshane Khumalo.
Umcijo...................Mlumbi Thebe.
Ihlathi..................Matshe Sithole.
Ingubo...................Fusi Khanye.
Insuka...................Manondwana(umzawakhe)
Insiza...................Manondwana.
Ingwanga.................-ibingela nduna.
Imazibalonkwe............-ibingela nduna.
Ameva....................Mazwi Gumede.
Isiziba..................-ibingela nduna.
Inyanda..................Mlagela Khumalo.

Lapho ngiphosisa khona lingincedise mthwakazi. Ubabamkhulu wami uLuphembe ubesebuthweni le Nyanda. Abanengi baleli butho bebengaMaswati ka Nyamatana owagana enkosini uMzilikazi ngemuva kokuhlangana kwesizwe sakithi, sisiba ngamaNdebele. Amabutho Amabili esiwaziyo thina abaka Ngwana yiMpumalanga le Jolikati. Yiwo esizwa ngembali lo mlando wakithi ukuthi ayekhokhelwe ngu Nyamatana.

Li Zwangendaba.

A kungi tshele ngama butho ka Mzilikazi lezi Nduna ezaziwa Khokhela lawo mabutho.

Imbizo

Go to the first post in this thread. Uwabethile wonke uZwangandaba. Qhubeka ngomsebenzi wakho omuhle mfowethu Zwangandaba

Bafowethu.

Lamhlanje ngizacela ukwethusa abanengi bethu. Ngizachatheka engikwaziyo ngaManguni, kuphuma emilonyeni yeZangoma.

Ngizaqala ngokuchasisa ukuthi isikhiwa, sona ulimi lwethu ngokuhlanganisa kwesinye isikhathi luxubanisa inkulumo yesintu.

ISANGOMA: Isangoma ngumuntu olandisayo. Lokhu kuthathwa egameni elithi INGOMA. Ingoma yisilando esiyindeyinde. Zitshonjalo izangoma. "A never ending story" kumbe ingxoxo ephindwa njalo njalo. IsaNgoma nguye loyo muntu owetheswe lowo mlandu wokulandisa leyo milando. Kuthi lowo laloyo achathekele abalandelayo, kube lizopho labo ukuthi bedlulisele phambili.

AMANGUNI: Ukuthi NGUNI kutsho ukuthi ingxubaniso. Ngesikhiwa "FUSION"
Isilo samabandla uMalandela, umntaka Mithiyonka,wathatha isizwe sakhe sa BA-NYANJA, wasihlanganisa la BA-LOZI(MAMBO-Kalanga), wasihlanganisa lensali za BA-LUNDA, BA-LUBA, wabutha izizwe za BA-MILIKE(ama Venda alamhlanje), a BA-THWA, a BA-LAWU, a BA-MANGWE (amandwandwe), a BA-TONGA ( aMaswati alamhla), BA-QHOYISHA (Ama-XHOSA alamhlanje) kanye lezinye insali zezizwe ezingazange zibe leBALA kuleli, wakha amaNGUNI, kumbe uthi ABE-NGUNI.

Kuthiwa uMalandela wakha umbuso wakhe ngokulobola inkosazana zaMakhosi alezi zizwe, laye eganisela amantombazana akhe kuzo. Sakhula ngaleyo ndlela isizwe seNkosi enkulu.

Ngemuva kokutshona kwe Langa, loba ukudilika kwe Ntaba, Amanguni achiteka kancane, esinye lesinye isizwe sifinyelela ngaku nina. Asala amaNguni esehlangene ngolimi kuphela kodwa kuliwa mihla yonke.

Umlando uthi wona yabakhona njalo enye inkosi eyawuvusayo umbuso wamanguni, eyayithiwa ngu NDABA. Zithi izangoma uNdaba wazibutha njalo izizwe zika Malandela kwaze kwaba le NGOMA elandisa lesi siga ethi: "Uyamemeza uNdaba uthi uyinkosi yaMakhosi, vuma lawe Ngwana, vuma lawe Bheje, vuma lawe Mhlolo, vuma lawe Qhwabe, vuma lawe Mthembu, uthi le yiNkosi yamaKhosi."

Ngayigida bafowethu mina le ingoma kusukela ngisesemfitshane, kuze kube lamhlanje.

Uthe ukudilika kwakhe, umsebenzi wakhe waba yize. Zithi izangoma, yiso lesi isikhathi sokufa kuka Ndaba lapho elinye iqhawe la BA-LAWU lanyomuka khona latshaya uShantshule, ngesintu kuthiwa ngumhamba Tshose. Ilawu leli labutha ezinye izizwana, laManguni alo, lakha isizwe sa BA-SOTHO, lapho kwaphuma khona a BA-TSWANA ngesikhathi esifutshana nje, bebanga umhlabathi. Nge Sintu esidala ukuthi SUTHU kugoqela izizwe zaBA-SOTHO, BA-TSWANA.

Nangu uDLUNGWANA Ka-NDABA, u Tshaka esizwa ngamahungahunga ukuthi okhokho bakhe bebakhile aManguni eyibunyonyo. Wazipha lowo mlandu wokusibutha laye isizwe saManguni.

Sonke siyazi ukuthi yaphela nge Di-FAQANG le indaba ngoba amakhosi esizwe saManguni aqala ukukhonona ngombuso ka Dlungwana bacina behlamuka.

Inkosi yakuqala ukusuka kwa Zulu ngu BHEMBE (Bhebhe). Laba ngabe Langeni. Kwalandela u MASEKO, yena engowe Mpangeni, oka NGWANA. Kwabuya ngemva kwakhe u Zwangendaba. Sinanzeleleni ukuthi lo uZwangendaba wehlukene lebutho le Zwangendaba ka Madlenya. Ngenva kuka Zwangendaba, kweza u Sotshangana, abeMlanjeni, abaka GASA. U Sotshangana nguye owachitha umbuso ka NGWANA lo Zwangendaba bachitheka abanye bazabuthwa ngu Mzilikazi esesakha amaNdebele, abanye bayaphelela e Zambia yalamhlanje, abanye base Malawi yalamhlanje, abanye baseTanzania yanamhlanje. U Gasa yena wakhile eMozambikwe yalamhlanje.

Bonke laba bantu babonakala ngophawu lobuNguni, loba nje abanye sekuthiwa ngama NGONI. Yikukiliza kwezizwe ezehlukeneyo lokhu.

Ngizaqala abanye ngalokhu engivala ngakho. Umlando wakithi uthi wona kusukela ekadeni, izizwe zaMashona bezivele ziphila ngobungilimbane. Yizo ezazithengisa amaKhalanga,amaTonga,amaSwati, aBaThwa, zibathengisela ama ARAB. Yikho lapho kwavela khona ukungezwani lezinye izizwe.

Ufuna okunengi kaye eSwazini(Mhlambanyatsi), Kwa ZULU, (eMpangeni),abesevakatshela e Binga, Tsholotsho,Matobo(Njelele), Beit Bridge, weqe uye e Kalabo Zambia, ubususiya ku MaNgomani e Malawi, endaweni okuthiwa kuse NDAZI. Ubuye uzongitshela ukuthi uzweni.

Into eqakathekileyo esintwini uma ufuna ulwazi, ungazenzi uma Ningi Ndaba. Zithobe ubuze uludinge ulwazi, uhloniphe, uzamangala ukuthi bavuleka njani abadala ngolwazi abalalo.

YISO ISIKOLO SESINTWINI LESI.

Ngicela lincedise Mthwakazi.

Li Zwangendaba.

Zwangendaba:

Iyabongeka indlela ochaza ngayona umlando wabeNguni. Kodwa, kukhona lapho sengathi angikuzwa kahle mntakwethu. Igama abathi "Nguni", ngokulandisa kweSangoma uVusamazulu Muthwa, nisho ukuthi "abantu abangenamhlaba" [ngesiNgisi, "people who have no land"!]. Uyaqhubeka futhi okaMuthwa ethi yena:

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The Nguni were formed out of a myriad of different tribes, and even today their language contains hundreds of words which were taken over from these tribes. My children, a tribe which rises naked from the ground, which rises from the charred remains of a destroyed people: this tribe has nothing whatsoever to lose, and is the fiercest and cruellest of all. Revenge is the meaning of its existence. Thus it was with the Nguni.....

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One of the intriguing points that okaMuthwa highlights is that the Mambo and the Nguni peoples, in fact, migrated together in their southward journey. He also mentions that, in the old country, Malandela murdered his own brother, Bhekizwe, and later adopted his two sons Zulu and Qwabe. As you know, Zulu it was who later founded the Zulu tribe.

Ngiyabonga.

Bafowethu.

Ngiyaludinga lolu gwalo luka Muthwa. Ngesikhathi ngise ZAMBIA ukhona ubaba owangitshela ngalo ethi indaba zami ziyafana lezalolo gwalo. Wathi kimi luthiwa, "INDABA MY CHILDREN" Sengiludinge ku website zonke kanye le google, bathi lu "out of print".

Isazi se Zambia sithi kimi isangoma leso sathola lolo lwazi ikakhulu ezizweni za Matonga, aBe-Lozwi, kanye laBa-Nyanja.

Nxa ulithola baba NDUKUZ'BOMVU, ungincede ngizalibhadalela, ngilabo abafowethu abase Goli, bangakuthinta ngocingo ubanikeze bakuphe ingwece yakho.

NANSI INDABA > Ukuthi NGUNI kubanzi. Kutsho ukuthi ukungxubanisa, njalo nxa kuthiwa ongela lizwe, akuphelelanga. Ngendlela abachasisa ngayo abadala bathi: ONE WHO HAS NO CLAIM TO LAND ABOVE HIS OWN KIND. ONE WHO HAS NO CLAIM TO LANGUAGE ABOVE HIS OWN KIND. TOTAL FUSSION OF ALL THAT IS YOURS, FROM PHYSICAL TO SPIRITUAL, TO MORAL CLAIMENCE.

LOYO ONGELA MBANGO WOMHLABA PHEZU KWABANGABAKHE. LOYO ONGELA MBANGO WOLIMI PHEZU KWABANGABAKHE. UBUNGUNI BAKHO KONKE OKWAKHO, NGESIMO, NGAMATHONGO, KANYE NOBUQOTHO.

Lokhu kwaba ngumkhuba elizweni lonke, (universal) lamanguni. Yikho abantu bakuhlonipha ngoba kwakusegcekeni, njalo kungekho olinga omunye. Izangoma ziyaqonqosela ukuthi ungaqamba amanga usenza umsebenzi wesizwe, akula mpumela eba khona.

One has to be genuine and honest, and I will say here that the unity of (PF) ZAPU and ZANU (PF), was not honest and genuine, that is why we have such problems now.

NGIYABONGA BABA NGOKUNGINCEDISA. Ungakhohlwa, ngiyalufuna lolu gwalo.

Mina ngakhula phansi kwe Zangoma, Ngazigida lezo ngoma.

Li Zwangendaba.

isintu masingapheli .

BAFOWETHU.

NGINANZELELE UKUTHI LESI YISETHULO SAMI SESI 158. MINA LAPHA ENKUNDLENI NGINGU NUMBER 158.

WHAT A COINCIDENCE.

NGITHATHE LELI THUBA UKUBONGA Inkundla NGOKUNGIVULA AMEHLO, LOKUNGI HLANGANISA LABAKWETHU. AZANDE INDABA. ASIZIHLUZENI, SINGAKHOHLWA INJONGO YETHU.

BAYEDE MTHWAKAZI KA-NDABA.

Li Zwangendaba.

Haya mfoka Zwangendaba,bayethe wena kaMaseko!!Qhubeka ngomsebenzi wakho,usuthungule abanye bethu ebesingazi okunengi ngebhali yabantu bakithi.kanye lani bakaMthwakazi,ngithi malingadinwa qhubekani lisifundisa ngebhali yakithi.
Buyani lazo maqhawe.kude lapho esiphuma khona.

Qhubeka ngomsebenzi wakho omuhle KaZwangendaba. Injabulo ikithi ngolwazi olusenza sivule amehlo sibone ukuthi kuvelwa ngaphi. Kusi siza ukuthi sazi ukuthi siya kuphi.

Siyabonga mfowethu!