From the thread Lithini ngamandebele athethe amashona, it became apparent that love knows no bounderies despite strong principles, hatred, etc, umfazi kalankosi. It is obvious due to the homoegineity of our current society and the churches, marriages labetshabi will always be there, and I am sure just like Aids no one has been spared a close relative in these relationships.

When and where do we draw the line ukuthi this is acceptible and this "inkomo ingazal'umuntu kwaMhlahlandlela" It is also true that amaNdebele are ever ready to bend thier rules and allow okuyimikhutshana kwabetshabi ekhaya. Eminye imizi you may not be sure ukuthi ngumuzi weNdebele kumbe hatshi since umalukazana webutshabi wangena lapha. Baza liphekela amagundwane very soon.

Ukuthi umthwakazi angachitheki, kumele sazi ukuthi sithini uma okulitshabi sokubheda lapha. Kwale ukuthi abantwana bakhulume ulimi lwakoyise , kumbe baye kwabomkhulu ngeholiday . Ubaba usesitshiyile lapha, nanko kuhlal'esitulweni sakhe kumlingisa mhla edle amabele . Ngiphath'umqwayi? Kumbe ngidinge okuyismall house losisi wesintwini? Kumbe ngikubuyisele kwabo ngiqale kutsha okwakha umuzi?

Angikutholi kahle baba Hitshi. Utsho ukuthi yiso isimo okusona, uthethe itshabi?

Mina ngalangisithi lina bobhudi yini elona izinto.Kanti UMagu uzafika akhulume esakibo wena usithini? Abantwana abakhulume esakwakwe wena usithini? Angithi lawe uyabe usuHEREza!Kanti mina babakazi ngingafika emzini wakho lawe usutawura mina nginga thini?
On another hand bakithi mina ngakithi silomalukazane wesitshabi.Hawu bandla nxa ungatshelwanga ungeke wazi ukuthi nguMaShona! Imikhubo yakithi uyazi bhaca! Phela kambe wayengathini lokhu UMAPHENDUKA IDLOZI LASEKHAYA lingabizwa ngesitshona.It is up to us to mould these strangers to our culture to fit in and act accordingly.Just like iz expected intombazane eyendele esitshoneni layo mele ilandele leyo mikhuba.
Ye impi iyalwiwa kodwa ezothando bakithi azikulandeli lokhu

Skuvethe,

Umuzi wakwethu mkhulu mfethu, kunjalo, nje omalukazani besitshbini, babili, labakwenyana besitshabini, babili. Ngamanga ukuthi singa nqoba udaba lokuthi sizathathana sodwa ngoba ilizwe selihlangene nje.

Kumele sazi lapho esima khona kulokhu, ukuze silondoloze amasiko lobuntu bethu. Leziya ndaba ezixoxwa kumbangazwe uthi ziyibeka ngaphi imizi enje. Singeke sikhohlwe ngabo, kumbe sithi sindawonye labo. Kumele sibancedise ukuthi bakhawula ngaphi kulokho abangakuyeka, kumbe balele kukho.

Sengike ngaba lezibonelo ezithile, ezinye zangethusa.

Hitshi, ngibheke i signature lakho phansi la and it seems like a contradiction in terms.

Indaba ye inter-tribal marriages/children ideally would not be a political issue but it has been made into one by Isitha. What you say, ukuthi pho-ke sesihlangene ngemitshado sizayilwa kanjani impi, is exactly where they want you.

Inter-tribal unions and amakhaladi azalwa lapho should not hinder umzabalazo we sizwe, anymore than such scenarios(black & white marriages) did in the colonial and apartheid days.

Singa Jindi Majieta!!

Ayi Hitshi, uSkhuvethe usekubonele ukudabuka kwebhetshu lakho mfowethu!! Uthini ngalokho mfowethu?

Uxolo mfowethu, isikhathi siyangitshiya kabi ngingangena ngale kumbangazwe.

Elami ibhetshu alidabukanga, kodwa nxa elakho lidabukile lami ngizwa inhloni. Bengithi mhlawumbe siza bonisana ukuthi sibambe ngamevha kumbe ngobulunga.

Ngamanga ukuthi singanqoba kwezothando, kodwa nxa imizi isakhiwa singaphathisa ukuze ubuNdebele bethu bungatshabalali. Ekuqaleni bengingela ndaba kakhulu but lento yeGrand plan, yangicunula kabi yikho ubona lapha ngaphansi.

madoda,kukhona omunye udhudi ,umakhelwane wangakithi,ngamandebele uqobo,wagijima wathatha okulitshabi ngangisaseyiboyz eyittit mani ngingaboni.mihleloyo sisi wabantu kuthe besa dlaladla b4 bethathana undoda lo ebuyakithi esithi intombi yakhe ithanda ukumbiza mkoma.
A yebona ye asicabangelilutho thina saqala sithi ubhudu mkoma mkoma,dukudu bathathana baqhubeka kumnandi a-naangoke undoda manje laye usesikhuluma ,
Sithe nxa sithi mehlo suka undoda wayeselabantwana ababili sebesitawura big time laye vele esengu -mkoma kuzekubelanamhlanje ungumkoma ende vele akasthi klwe kulo dadewabo walee.Thina esikhule ngaphansi kwakhe njenge boyz zakhe asisavunyelwa loku vakastha kukula abanawakhe engangi funda labo bakhetha ukuthi nxa befuna isawudo noma iLift or eyomsthova bazekhalela kithi.
Ngikhumbulala ngelinye ilanga ngahamba ngisiya boleka imota kuye wabethi emfazini,ekhuluma ngolwakubo womfazi "mama,umfana usahambisa imota emapholiseni bayeyi khangela ngoba ulekhonetshini yokuthi ipase",ngithe nxangimbuza ukuthi utheni wathi kimi
"nxxi kuyahlanya lokhu bekufuna ukwala lemota so ngikutshele ngathi phela wena ungumfana wami,ngeke kusehlukanise" ecabanga ukuthi lokhe ngingasidobhi njengakuqala.maje kwaba nzima kimi ukuthi ngithi hawu mfowethu uyesaba yini ukukhuluma iqiniso.

I had to dig up this thread after what I read in the Trends Magazine about u"Joice Huni" and her "respected" Ndebele fiance or boyfriend bust up at a night club.

The quoted statements tell you this is the end of the road. However my biggest question was, What actually didn't work? Ngabe yimali, kumbe YibuNdebele lobuTshabi osobubheda?

Ncedani singakaqambi amanga.

Unganamathisela indatshana yakhona na Histhi? Mina sengilahlekile.

Yah, please post indaba yakhona, mina lami kangikayizwa.

phela madoda kuthiwa umfazi kalaHole !kAMBE abadala babejongeni ngalesi isitsho?

Herewith qoute of the story from Trends Magazine.

Tino nothing but a gold digger – Sakhi

By Lenin Ndebele
Last year’s highly publicized engagement couple has, beyond reasonable doubt, hit a brick wall after the lovebirds Sakhiwe Ndlovu and Tinopona Katsande, Studio 263’s Joyce Huni, washed their linen in public when they had a public verbal exchange at a popular night spot. If their situation were a car accident it would have been declared a written-off.

It all happened on a regular clubbing night where the two were having fun despite reports, in a daily newspaper that Tinopona Katsande was beaten up after being found with a workmate’s husband at a Harare hotel.

Onlookers watched the drama unfold when a visibly frustrated Tino called on the public’s attention to listen to her as she said

“Please people I want you to know that there is nothing between me and this man. Me and him are done”.

The irate “groom-was-to-be” Ndlovu then countered, implying that Tino was nothing but a gold digger. This was not the first time that Sakhi made such allegations as earlier on when things between the two were still “hopeful” he did not hesitate to confront Tino for “overspending” his money.

After Sahki had passed the “gold digging remarks” Tino at the top of her voice, shouted; ‘If I was a gold digger what would I be doing with you when you have nothing?’

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Trends June 2007. not available in electronic form yet.

Isitsho elokhe siliqiniso yikuthi "umfazi kalankosi" kodwa lesi esokuthi umfazi kalahole is no longer true.

Isizwe sisakhile, sasilemithetho lamasiko okwakungeke kweyiswa muntu ngoba babezibusa obabamkhulu. Akusenjalo lamhla ngoba ayisithi esibusayo. Banengi omalukazana besishoneni abafika benze imikhuba yakibo egumeni libalele kungabi ndaba zalutho. Ukutaura khona kangikhulumi, vele athi kuyisezala laye athi "Thamuka muroora"

Izinto ezi khombisa ukuthi lo ngumuzi onjani yilezi:
1. amasiko - culture
2. ulimi - language
3. ukholwo - religion.

Nxa umfazi engela hole kumele angangeni lakho kokuthathu lokhu afunde okwalapha ekhaya.

Kanti laye uNdlovu lowo wayesithi wenzani shuwa, eseziyangisisa kangaka?! Shame! Ukuthi osisi koBulawayo basebephelile yebo?