Futhi uyazi kuyamangalisa ukuhlangana lomfana okuthiwa nguZibusiso Chinyembire....Uthi kimi ngiyi-half Shona half Ndebele...ethi futhi ' u gat a problem with that" ayi-shuwa

Ekuhle masGezi,

Kuyamangalisa ukuthi ekhaya sikhule sitshaywa singakhomba i-shona..kodwa khathesi isimanga yikuthi lalapha-eMelika abantwana bakithi esendebeleni bazaliswe-ngamashona ngendaba-ye-desparation. Kanti lingaphi ma-jida esindebeleni! Phumani silibone....lichatshe ngaphi?

Banjalo ke abantwana besishoneni langapha bagcwala ngamaNgongo ngoba awana ma Bank account bahlala bephethi amasaka.Hawu! Uthi basacabanga kusasa baphilela namhlanje njengempukane.

Labo abendela emagundwaneni bona bangiqeda amandla, odade balala bahamba nezidlova zeGukulawundi ngemva kokubona obaba nabafowawo bebulalwe okwenyoka, imizi itshabaliswe yimlilo. Mina ngake ngasebenzela undoda kuqina khonale kwele mpumalanga yelama Ndebele, khona le yinhlayenza ukuhlangana labo bekhuluma bekhululekile, ngithi-nje enhliziyweni yami 'yizo izifetshana ezabulalisa abafowethu,. yikho uzwa abadala bephoxekile bethi vele umfazi ufana nenja-Xolani bodade angiqonda kuphoxa. Kwanele namhlanje.
NguBraFiks, lona.

kambe shuwa mandebele sekusithini sibili,lisweleleni thina engilandi kugcwele amatshona kuphela njalo adade lingaphi.labo sistere ukuthanda amanagimbi selisweleni sibili silibukele.

Liyazi odadewethu bayasithuka mani, batsho ukuthi ngezinye indlela bayabufisa ubutshona! Ngenxa nje yokuthanda izinto, izifebe lezi!!

Uyabona odade bakhomba izinja lezi ngenxa yomqondo omfitshane wokuthi zilemali batshovele imbali yobuntu emsamo. Lalibone ukuthi kungafa okungamadojelana kwakhona izihlotshana zakhona zigijima njani zisiyabutha impahla. Mina vele angibazweli odade,bayazidingela but bayanginyanyisa. Badunga ubuntu bethu sibhekile!

nxa lifuna odade balinanzelele, yekelani ukuthetha lingenzi lutho.
amashona bayazimisela ngezinto zabo, bayazi ukuthi females like to be treated special yikho bekhonjwa. lina instead lifuna ukuncengwa and sisters are getting tired of that. why should they bother when bekhona abazabancenga bona?

stand up and be counted as men. amandebele asalela emuva, and these days sisters are coming into their own. they want real men, so if you cant do it kumele bethini? bahlale bengakhombi? get rel my brothers.
lami kungizwisa ubuhlungu because bangezelela ipopulation yama shona thina sivele sithwelenzima ngawo, but at least i can understand the reasoning behind it.
women need security and constant assurance that they are loved and appreciated. lina alifuni kubagcina, and libaphatha like things which you dont even give attention. so dont complain nxa bebalekela lapho abazaphathwa khona like queens.
shonas are the bane of ndebele lives, but at leaast they know how to treat their women. learn from them take the good and leave the bad...and you will see.
sisters dont date shonas or ndebeles. they date MEN regardless of ethnic group
stand up and be counted as men. umsebenzi yikukhuluma kuphela yet you dont know the first thing about making a woman happy.

Lonke litsho kahle, labo abathi imbi into enziwa ngo dade bakithi, nalabo abathi kungoba thina amadoda ako Mthwakazi asina mali.

Kodwa, asingachithi skhathi sithetha ngomkhuhlane osubhahile, siyeka ukuthela umuthi kumbangela yomkhuhlane. Ukuthi omame bakithi baye lalana le sitha, nokuthi thina amadoda asina mali(yikho singeke salingenisa ebhayskop, lako Nandos) kubangelwa yi GRAND PLAN yabe tshabi, alikuboni ngani lokhu?

Dade Noe, libo vimba mani and look at the bigger picture, hatshi ukufiphala ingqondo lithatheka. Izitha bakithi manje seziphakathi ekhaya, pho kothiwani ke ma sekunje? Usizi ukuthi ma sesiphandle siphephela emazweni, sekungekho mshona esizayancenga kuye umsebenzi, odade lokhe bethatheka ngabo abetshabi, colonised futhi naphandle kwe Tshabiland? Hayi mani, bo mame, musan' uk'tshabalisa isizwe.


Vimba Dade!!

Noe,

Nxa ukuthengelwa ama chips ubususiya emancansini umithe kuthi kusasa kwakhona sulahlwa njenge toilet paper ususele lomntwana ongela yise kuyiku phathwa njenge Ndlovukazi, kutsho ukuthi liyizi phuku phuku sibili.

Phezu kwalokho ususala ulomkhuhlane ongelaphekileyo ngoba ucabanga ukuthi ukudla imali yomuntu yiku gcinwa kahle! Shame waze wangiyangisa Noe.

Inengi lama relationship enu are short lived. Beselicabanga ukuthi sizalincenga selingcoliswe ngabe tshabi?

Hayi bo! Yini nje ngalamantombazana? Sikhona thina anisiboni ngani? Sesiyathe siyavela ngamakhanda nibheke nje eceleni? Senzeni? Hayi bo! Lafa elihle. kanti vele wena Noe udingani khonangapho?

Yah ngaze ngezwa ubuhlungu ma ngibala imicabango kadade uNoe. Ngamafitshane dade uthi asikhohlwe imbali littered with decades of persecution, a systematic, evil and well orchestrated regime of marginalisation of a people for no other reason than the language and culture that defines them? One moment they despise you for being who you are and the next moment they treat you like a lady? Perfect gentlemen indeed! Wish u ol the luck with a change of your misplaced thoughts. A sugar-coated pill is still bitter inside!!

Pardon me if I'm alone in this but I'm yet 2 meet ixhegu lesitshoneni lesalukazi wesintwini. U c dade, balisondeza eduze 4 their own selfish pleasures and 2 make their hobby easy they use ol the stupid traps that only a few women can resist; kind words, material treats n whatever it takes- zithiywa ngezikudlayo dade. Thina we have bn brought up under a stable culture, I kno this has contributed 2 our peril but still slobuntu yikho nje singabhuzi indawana yonke nje. So lina ngokuthanda ubucwazicwazi lifuna lawo maCs they flash b4 u. Lami nje mangithanda ngingadlala ngokungosisi kwabo n say ol the nice thingz mina ngizazi lyk I do ukuthi I wish them n their ilk ol the evil under the sun. Zigqajeni mani bodade!

Hawu Sis Noe ma u thi women need to ukuphathwa kahle ushoni? I mean phela abobaba be sindebeleni maybe abana mali i wouldn't kno coz maybe usho from experience but i can bet u my last penny isphatho asi na anythin to do with how deep yr pocket is! I mean in this day and age kulihlazo to hear a woman say i im in the relationship coz i need security, be it financial or whatever bcoz hell girlfriend i dont need no money from anyone coz i go out and make my own dollar!My fiancee is not shona and he is luvin, kind and treats me with the outmost respect.So whatever yr reason for datin shonas i beg of u dont diss OBOBHUDI!!!!HAYI BO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yah that is a very refreshing call, ukuzwa icele labodade linqunula umqondo obanzi lokhaliphe kangaka. Irespect liyazipha lina bodade by being independent, financial and upstairs ikakhulu. Sesadlula esabokhokho where idivision of labour put u in a dependancy role, a lot has changed since. There is certainly no xcuse 4 ol the ladies lapha emazweni, ishift iz ur ladder to get the respect eliyidingayo. Use it n not iflesh flashing! Mina ngihlezi lentombi yesintwini n she takes care of me when I don xpect it akalindeli mina lwaz, howz dat Noe? Guquka n c the light!

Out of all Shona /Ndebele marriages I am yet to see one which has lasted forever unless you mean
those before the grand plan.

Litshaye khona mazinyane esilo.

Untombazane Lo othi obhudi besindebeleni kabakwazi ukuthanda utsho ngoba eke wathandana lobhudi wesindebeleniyini?

Phela abantu bayathanda ukukhuluma ngezinto abangazaziyo.

Noe
khule khandadadewethu, ungani angikutholikahle
hamba uyezilwaneni zakho ,uvele wena ulitshona umthetho wakho, uliswina
ungakhuluma kanjalo njani
ungathanda I mali yokutshotshwa thina obaba abasomasela ngakho imali siyakwazi ukuyisebenzela lokuyisebenzisa
ngakho ungaze wadukisa odadewethu abancinyane abasakhulayo
hamba emaswineni akhoswinalothuvi elikhotha amaNdebele
ungaze wasithuka kanje man
LINA BONDLELA ZIMHLOPHE NGITHI PHAMBILI NGOBUHLE
LIVELE LINGAKHANGELI AMATSHONA NGOBA BEVELE BEFUZE UCHIKORE
EMTHWAKAZI

Noe
Mntanasekhaya we feel pity for you that at this day and age (the digital age) you still believe in the dependency syndrome. You seem to worship people who use stolen money to hoodwink you into submission through crook or hook. Get the hell out of Harare and see how well the Ndebele guys are doing out there. For your own information, media business in Zm is tightly in Ndebele hands(The Zim Independent, Standard ,Daily News etc), banks are in Ndebele hands , think of Dr Mthuli Ncube and banking. The biggest newspaper in Africa is owned by a Ndebele (Mail and Guardian)Mr Trevor Ncube. Hewas recently elected the chairman of the media owners of South Africa. Mthandazo Moyo is the deputy Chief Executive Officer of Old Mutual South Africa. I head the Financial Markets unit of a major bank. Open your eyes there is a lot of good things we as Ndebeles are busy doing. Recently Nkosana Moyo resigned his post in the ministry of finance because he could not counternance the horror of these people whom you blindly endorse. Noe for your information ,thina amanyala asiwathandi.Njalo izinto ze showmanship yabeTshabi asizingeni. To be honest with you Ndebeles are very proud people and they won't let their dignity down the drain by going for a braai at Windermere or koMthwakazi with a neighbour's school going daughter. This has obviously become synonymous with abo Sekuru bakho khonangapho eHalale. Thina sidla imali yethu ngenhlonipho ngoba siyisebenzela nzima, asiyintshontshi, sifunda kanzima through varsities sizibhadalela while abeTshabi labo obancomayo babhadalelwa nguhulumende wabo. If the shona guys are as "gently and soft" as you seem to think they are kindly show us any single Ndebele woman who has been successifully married by a shona. All we see is kids, kids , kids and more kids which we are forced to support because these monsters desert you once you fall pregnant. As a parting short , one of the objectives of the Grand Plan reads: "It is the duty of every Shona guy to impregnant Ndebele girls so as to render them useless (no more shooling) and they will be left with no option but to turn to prostitution thereby getting AIDS and spreading it to Ndebele man" . The end result is that we will then die of AIDS and they say this is part and parcel of a "legitimate struggle". Those of you who want to read the full document can be told where to find it.

Very regretable and very retrogressive on the part of our sisters who in this day and age still enmesh themselves in the frivolous belief that the sons and daughters of the murderous shona psychpaths are compassionate towards them and that they are better off than those of royal extraction

what our sisters are doing kulihlazo to our young and vibrant nation and it is not anything other than the betrayal of our survival as a nation.

Khathesi kugcwele abantwana bamashona emzini yakwethu and the funny side of it yikuthi isizwe sethu sisala sesithwele nzima sifidana lemilomo yamatshona.

The very people you claim are not good enough yibo abacina sebekhangele abantwana benu becox amaparents are compassionate enough not to throw you away labantwabenu,

Nxa sesigcina abadala bethu we ironically pay the bill for your shona offspring.

Noe,

Omakhelwane abangale empumalanga bandise ukungathakazeleli ukugcina abantwababo kuhle, yebo nje, angayiqeda imali ekholisa labodade be "nice time" abantwabakhe behlupheka. Odade abangaziyo abathanda izinto bayabe besithi ngamthola umzimbokhal'mali engazi ukuthi uthole uthathekile othanda i "joy" lemali leyo ingeyokwebiwa. Abesintwini yizakhamuzi Noe, bangaphuma balahleke basabalale njengamadoda kodwa kabayikhiphi imali beyidlalisa, bagcinela abantwababo. Esintwini umfazi uyahlonitshwa, for example, manxa uphuma koSibanda, ungayenda uzaziwa njengo maSibanda (ngeyinyindlela isintwini bayabonga lapha owavela khona). Dade, ungathathwa yindoda yesintwini uzazibonela lawe okuthiwa yikuthandwa, ukuhlonitshwa, uyabe uphakathi komhlane le mbeleko.

Uyaphuthelwa nxa wazilahlela empumalanga !

Kusinwa kudedelwana .. bazakhuluma abanye

Sesimtshelile usezwile untombazane. Safa saphela!!

NOE lapha u bhayizile sisi,kukhanya bwena kuwe i love is all about money.lafa elihlewabhayiza umtwana emini so

it is unfortunate that what i said was misunderstood...i'm sorry if i offended anyone's sensibilities.
to the question of what i am doing in harare..i am a student at the uz, (nust is full of shonas..reason being thaat the proportion of schools offering good quality education in the sciences is way lower than that in harare..but i digress... )it is there that i have seen sisters of mthwakazi do what they do.just like you, brothers have complained ukuthi abakhanyi ,and the sisters in question have responded in the way i described...i need not repeat it for fear of driving some of you to the use of unnecesarrily vulgar language which is particularly unbecoming for abantu abathi baziqaja ngobuntu babo.

and just so that i understand...are you saying that out of amandebele WONKE asamithisayo AKULA owala umthwalo? are yu saying that ALL the illegitimate childrren in zim have shona fathers? are you saying that in byo and surrounds ALL the girls marry as virgins, and if they dont they marry the fathers of their children? are you saying that you do NOT know of ubhudi besintwini abala izisu? i find that rather hard to believe..but then again...what do i know?

yes i have dated a ndebele man and he treated me extremely well. we broke up after three years (six months before we were expected to announce our engagement) bcos he made his shona ex-girlfriend pregnant while i was away at school...Question...is that bad or wamlaya?by the way...they didnt marry...so much for ndebele brothers being responsible...be careful of double standards..we are better than them right? we do not stoop as low as they do right? we take responsibility for our actions because we are cleverer, mature and more responsible than they'll ever be...right???right.

personally i dont date for money(no self respecting sister does) but i think we are all aware of the fact that every woman wants security.who wants to look after her man?even the sister who makes her own dollar doesnt want to be responsible for her man's security...or does she?all i mean by this is that even the richest woman wants to feel cared for. no woman wants to support her man.even the bible says a man should work and provide for his family.which woman wants to be the provider?yes, sisters make dollar, but is it to support their men???and i'm not saying that brothers should spend their dollar on sisters...what i mean is that we are equals but you as the head should have our livelihood as your responsibility. i can and should help...and help is the operative word here.take over total control is not the way sisters want to go, though sometimes there is no alternative.now, what exactly is offensive here???

i just wanted to highlight the whys behind the phenomenon without passing judgement on the stupidity/wisdom of the action.

do people not divorce in all ethnic groups?
as a matter of fact i do know of couples who married cross-culturally and are happy.yes, not many because in actual fact cross-cultural marriages have problems, but they are there.

i'm not advocating for these things because like i said they are increasing the population of abantu abasithwalise nzima...but they are there nonetheless...and if you really want to curb it then find out what it is that causes them. unless of course you are saying that only the ndebele men are capable of sane thought and all the sisters are immature and irresponsible idiots who want nothing more in life than to spend their days bearing children with unpronounceable surnames...do you REALLY believe that????

bhoyi-bhoyi,awuboni ukuthi ufile lo mqondo wakho,heeeeeeeeee bhoyi,
so NOE tell me on my birthday should i take myself out,and take you out on yohz too???
i do understand yoh point about the man being the head,but yuh missed one point,i believe in a good house,it should be a 60/40 situation,i pay some bills and yuh pay some bills too,usual most families they divide their expenses btwn the 2(husband and wife),so wena lapha uzama ukuthini nxa usithi mina ngikhokhe konke??MANJE EYAKHO IMALI IBI SISIBA NGEYANI??.
i have noticed something fun with girls in the calibre of NOE,they think if a guy asks her out and she agrees,the guy must suffer for that,kuyabe sokuyi sono kubo,they expect the guy to concetrate on them as if we dont have a life too,
some girls want to be taken out day in day out,and who can manage that?kusasa e nandos,phambili kwakusasa e chicken inn,the following day e mamovie njalo nje,,haaaaaaaaa boooo ngubani ozakwanisa lokhu,phela lathi silempilo zethu kumele senze izinto ezingcono kulalokho.
NOE learn to stand for yohself hirl coz depending on guys is dangerous,phela hvae yuh noticed something on such type of girls,wen the husband dies,it will be like the wife is dead too,coz she is used to be spoonfed since she was dating,ngoba ecabanga ukuthi vele indoda yiyo okumele yenze konke.MAJIDA MAYBE U noe LISHONA ELAZI ISINDEBELE,PHELA OMBAXAMBILI BANENGI EKHAYA.

kanti NOE kengibuze sisi,
yuh mean tu tell me ukuthi ama families wonke lawana akobulawayo amadoda akhona ayisiwo mandebele yini??nxa kuyiwo,manje benelisa njani ukugcina abafazi babo ,baze bazala abantwana ,bathenga izundlu,babafundisa ezikolo babasa emazweni ukuthi bebe le mpilo egcono???.

Ola bantu
Kukhanya udade is still living in the olden age of hunter and gatherers where the man is expected 2 go hunting.Emazweni DADE NOE IZINTO ZITSHIYENE kulento okuthiwa yi 50-50 ekwenzeni izinto concerning ur relationship.ODADE abanjengawe yibo onxazombili HEEE UBABA LINDEBELE UMAMA LISHOSHOLOZA,ema university emazweni bakhona odade who know how 2 be a black independent woman and they have not lost ubuntu njengawe wena usekhaya,walaywa njani kumbe yi HALALI EYAKUBULALA INQONDO.U ARE USED 2 FAST LIFE LABO SUGAR DADDY EHALALI UNANZELELE.YINI ODADE ELICINA LIGIJIMISWA NGAMANGONGONGO BALIDLITHIZE JUST 4 A TRIP 2 NANDOS,KENTUCKY LABO CHICKEN LICHEN EHALALI.SINGACINA SIKUBONA PHELA KUMA PORNO MOVIES EMAZWENI WENA UNGAQAVI UKUTHI AMANGONGONGO ENZA UMFANEKISO WE PORNO SO UNANZELELE DADE UMZENZI KAKHALWELWA KUKHALELWA UMENZIWA.

In my opinion, there can never be a half shona half ndebele. Akula shona elingathandana lendebele, kimi kuyazila lokho and as far as i am concerned it doesnot conform to the norms of our society. Its like saying a dog and a cat can live together and come to produce a half cat half dog. That on its own sounds like nonsense.
After all its a well known fact that a shona will always be dominant over a ndebele. how many shona couples has anyone seen where a ndebele has a say,close to none.whether its a ndebele guy or its a ndebele girl, the shona will always wear the trousers, and the ndebele will eventually learn how to 'wombera'.
Akula muntu ozithi ulindebele owake wathandana leshona. Ungazibona, uthandana leshona uzithi ungumntane nkosi kutsho, ukuthi vele ulishona ngokwakho.ukuthi ulesibongo sesindebele akutsho lutho.you can not date or marry a shona if you donot get along and if you donot support their ideas, there by coming to a conclusion that you might be a Dube, a Ncube or a whatever but deep down uliswina!

Noe, mina personally ishona phansi kwami angilifuni, due to reasons best known to myself.
However,just like you i am a woman too, and to some point i understand were you are coming from. you might have not laid your point down kuhle but ngiyakuzwa ntombi.
you are telling the truth. ndebele men sometimes dont seem to give ndebele women a reason to believe that there is nothing they could ever want from a shona. its not about material things but its about ndebele men getting their act together, and realising they are in the 21st century.they treat women like gabage and they say its civilisation. i donot agree, treating your woman like a queen doesnot mean you are primitive or in the stone age Malimaza,it means you are a gentlemen and cautious enough to keep your woman happy. its amzing that some of the men who are so defensive sebavuka phezu kwabafazi besishoneni.
noone seems to think Beckham is a Neanderthal because he holds posh's hand,instead he is a gentleman at heart.
like you said Malimaza its 50-50 these days,nothing for mahala, you get what you give. ayisikho endulo were women were made to think it was their obligation to give their men everything they wanted inreturn for nothing.
we dont want your money guys,but we want to feel loved,respected and appreciated,not in bed kuphela!

wena NOE kambe shuwa ubona ingani mina ngehluleka ukuku hambisa ko nados kumbe kuma movie,kumbe ngikuthengela something special ngama special events like birthday ,anniversary//
uyahlola sibili wena NOE,gijima labo sugardaddy ehalale bazakulaya.

Yezi ngiyakuzwa dadewethu kodwa mina angivumelani lawe ngoba mina ngike ngaba yindodakazi yolahleko.What i'm trying to say is that i once dated iswina and trust me those people are very rough.Nginanzelele ukuthi lokhe belementality leya eyokuthi thina abantu besindebeleni siyiminority, as a result umuntu wakhona treats you like that.Trust me those people have no intentions of marrying amaNdebele but to use, abuse and misuse odadewethu.My advice to Ndebele women please stick to your own kind for they say "It's better the devil you know ".Kufana labosisi bekhaya abagijimisana lamaNigerians, obhudi labana bayasisebenzisa and then they go back to their own Nigerian women,they have no intentions of marrying us.NOTE THAT I AM NOT SAYING ALL SHONA GUYS ARE LIKE THAT, BUT TRUST ME ABOUT 99.99% OF THEM DON'T SETTLE WITH US NDEBELE GIRLS.PERSONNALY I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD LOOKING GUYS IN THE NDEBELE TRIBE ANGITHI THINA SINGABAKAMTHWAKAZI.GUYS WHAT DO YOU SAY!!!

Idonki lenkomo akukhwelani kanti manje lina bakamathwakazi lazihlupha ngento esegcekeni nje.
Yikho okungabantwana okusikhathazayo mbayimbayi lokhu okungo Mandla Zviripayi, Sipho Chingwendere, Nyasha Khumalo, Nhamo Skhosana lina aliboni vele ukuthi amabizo akhona lezibongo akungenelani ngitsho.
Asicabangeni ngengqondo mandebele amahle hayikhona ukwenza njengamashona ayenza angani acabanga ngomdi..

ngiyakuzwa lami futhi Nkunzi.but mina im yet to date indebele elilobuntu.by saying this,i am not stating that i want a shona,because i think the best way to describe me yikuthi i am anti-shona.nonetheless,lokhe ngaqalisa ukukhomba,i can surely say ukuthi there is no ndebele man who qualifies to be a gentleman.
angazi,kumbe ngumnyama wami,but i have tried inside out.all of them have primitive thoughts, i think they believe in isithembu nowadays.just like shona men,ndebele use and misuse ndebele women.they believe that by sleeping with us they are doing us a favour.i know there are handsome ndebele men,but beauty is not on the outside only but on the inside as well.i can date isidlonono but if i am treated well i have no problem with that.
it is unfortunate that even those few who are truly MEN at heart are now grouped under the same umbrella as the many that use us,but if you are the minority you have to subject yourself to the majority.
angazi maybe our ndebele men are allergic to showing affection and love.

Ya, kwaze kwaba mnandi ukubona odade bakithi behlanganyela kungxoxo la, wozani bo mame lize liye ngena langale ku chatroom.


Ngizobuya futhi...

Manje dade Noe kukhanya ulomnyama sisi wami nxa ulokhe uhlangana labomashamplani wona amajida esindebeleni alenhlonipho,ubuntu lembeko begcwele kangaka engingakutsho yikuthi qhubeka udinga kumbe uye ekhaya uyehlatshelwa imbuzi emhlophe.

uxolo sisNoe bengizama ukuthi Yezi

Yezi

Dade siyakuzwa uyakhala ngokungabi lothando le affection okutholakala kubafowethu. Kodwa ke thina njengamajaha who are directly affected by your statement, we would have liked to prove you wrong. Before sikwenze lokho sizathanda ukuthi silinikeze i opportunity njengabo dadewethu kelisitshele ukuthi kahle kahle inkinga yethu or eyenu yini. Dade lisitshele ukuthi eminye imihlobo iliphethe kanjani and what is it that is different from abanewenu. Njalo dade uzibuze nawe ukuthi wena ulayo yini leyo affection le lothando lolo olukhalelayo. Yezi, dadewethu kufanele ukhumbule ukuthi uthando luyi two-way traffic. Isikhathi sasendulo (esaboLobengula) sesadlula esokuthi umfazi is "shy" and deserves to be treated like an egg. Nowadays it's 50/50 (to steal from umfowethu lapha enkundleni). So thina njengamajaha akhwabitha njalo aqakathekisa i democracy we welcome your (Ndebele ladies ) views in terms of telling us njengama jaha omkhonto ukuthi sehluleka ngaphi imbala.
Ma kuyikuthi sifaka endaweni engayisiyo lakhona lisitshele ngoba ma singatshelwanga yini siza hlekwa ngezinye izizwe. Ma singakhoni ukuliqabuza njalo litsho ukuthi hatshi bo bhudi bethu alikhona ukwenza the right thing. Lapho liyabe lisakha isizwe sakini njalo lathi sizalincoma kakhulu. Ma inengi lethu litshaya i short-cut likhohlwa ngalokhu abathi yi warm-up kumbe umdlalo wakuqala (foreplay) litsho futhi. Sitsheleni ukuthi why we do not seem to "get it right". Kodwa umbuzo wami uthi: Ma singelalo uthando njalo lomsebenzi singawazi lapha emacancini kungani lapha esihamba khona izizwe zonke ziyahlanya ngathi, abo dade bakhona bayasilwela njalo bathi silothando lobuntu obumangalisayo.Lindaba yokuthi asilathando siyithola kini abakithi kuphela nje qha. Ngoba abosisi abanengi abafuna ukwakha bayazi ukuthi yiwuphi umhlobo ozakutshada lakhe umuzi and lowomhlobo yithina. Angazi bathini abafowethu ngale ingxubakaxaka yenkemenkeme yensindabaphenduli yendaba. Abodadewethu bathi siyizigxangu kwezothando bafowethu.

mnewethu Gwasela, i don't think imbuzi emhlophe inganceda lutho, because i am convincied ukuthi a proper ndebele man doesnot exist on this earth.labo abazithi balobuntu,it only starts the first few weeks and there after i donot know which demon from which planet takes over.
if you so happen to be one of those rare proper men, i salute you Gwasela.

Lobengula mnewethu,somewhere i donot get your drift.kanti nxa ulijaha lesindebeleni udingani labafazi bezizweni? you complain about ndebele women being with amangongongo but lina lani lilabafazi bezinye izizwe,that includes amashona.

Yezi

Ungithole kahle dade lapha ngitsho amaNguni (Zulus ,Xhosas , Swazi, and South African Ndebeles). Ukuthi bayizizwe could be misleading ngoba kahle kahle ngabakithi laba abantu singamaNguni sonke njalo thina amaNdebele siyi combination of all these people together. Ukuthi izizwe ngikutsho in terms of amazwe ngokutshiyana.

Kodwa ke ngicela usinikeze imibono yakho kabanzi dade ngayoli ndaba yezo thando.

Dadewethu Yezi ngiyakuzwela usizi ngokuhlangana kwakho lamajaha esintwini angazi ukuphatha odade beskhosini, akungitshele ukuthi wena nxa ukhuluma ngesiphatho utshoni.(ufuna indoda ihambe ukubelethile kumbe what?)

YEZI ,angiku phoxi sis wami omuhle,ingxenye wena ULESIDINA yikho amadoda engahlali lawe isikhathi eside,
wena ungazibona umbuluzelwa ngamadoda azabe yi 5,kumele uzibuze ukuthi kanti i problem yikuyini,hamba uyebona abadala sisi,coz out of 5 guys yuh mean tu tell me ukuthi yuh cant get oyedwa nje ozakuthanda ,ngamanga lawooooooooooo angivumi mina,wena nguwe ole problem sisi YEZI.
mhlawumbe usuka u demande izinto ezi out of this world futhi,phela abanye osis they think ukuthi ukuba lejaha,sokumele ijaha lelo,lisebenzele wena kuphela,lona alisela mpilo,e.g?kulomunye usisi lapha e toronto ophatha amajaha ingani yizilevu zakhe,uyamuzwa esithi yean ufuna ukugqoka i bhanti le $600,00,kambe sibili YEZI akungitshele ukuthi umuntu onjalo,angahlala lendoda o demanda kanje??wass a belt anywere,ukubopha ibhulugwe nje kuphela ukuze lingawi??.
Yezi wat yuh are trying tu tell us is like during skool days ,were students used tu fight,there was 1 boy in our school ,who used tu be fighting week in week out,and he would say abantu yibo abangiqalayo,kambe shuwa out of 250 boys abantu bangaze betshone beqala wena wedwa njani???????uyabona ukuthi ayihambi leyo ndaba,sisi YEZI manengi amandebele alobuntu,ungathatha isikhathi sakho kuhle uzalithola,maybe wena ujola lamandebele azithi HALF NDEBELE HAFL SHONA o petros mangwende kumbe o thabo chikowere.

Well, as a matter of fact Tshisa i think i should correct you - i have not dated five ndebele guys, as yet. But the few that i have, have given me a lasting impression about ndebele men. i also suggest that, speak for yourself,if you believe you are a 'man' for real, fair and fine, but how about the other men you do not know about?are you including them in your statement as well? i know it is unfortunate for me to fall in love with the wrong kind, but to make a fact clear, i am not a material type of a person,i'm my own woman,and if it wasn't for love and companionship, i don't think i would ever need a man.by this i'm trying to say,i am never after the guy's money, because i've got my own,but i want love and companionship.
there is no way i can teach men how to love and how to treat their women, all i can do is give my point of view on the treatment that some women get from their partners.

Mnewethu, Gwesela,isiphatho that i am so constantly referring to, does not mean ukuthi ngifuna utshomi ahambe angibelethile.i want to be treated like a human being thats all.i want to say my view and utshomi alalele, hatshi ukuvala ngolaka or to give me the impression that i'm the woman therefore i donot have a say. in short,i am trying to say i donot want to be in a relationship were the only thing i am allowed to open are my legs and not my mouth!

ngiyakuzwa sisi, engingakutsho yikuthi ngikufisela inhlanhla enhle kakhulu njalo ungalahli ithemba bekezela uzaze umthole onguye okulindeleyo njalo enguye ozwagcwalisa izifiso zakho kungakhathalekile ukuthi ngumhlobo bani womuntu.

kuwe yezi
lami ngingomunye okufisela inhlanhla nxa ungowe cawe khuleka njalo nxa ungowokuthethela yeza okufaneleyo,ungalahli ithemba hope ukhona utshomi okumeleleyo somewhere ozakupha okufunayo in a relationship u are seeking.nhlanhla kuwe sistere.

Sawubona Dadewethu Yezi:

Thina eSintwini safundiswa, sisebancane, ukuthi umame umuntu ohlonishwayo; umuntu oyigugu. Indlovukazi, kumbe Inkosazana.
Cishe ayikuzwa kahle, ithi-ke ikuhlomulele iphinde ikubuze kancane; sixoxe, nokho-ke angisingcishi kuzindaba zomame. Uthi wena ubuningi besilisa seSintwini asinaso isiphatho, yebo? Ngokubona kwami, uma kuyiqiniso mpela nokhu, kusho ukuthi indlela OMAME bethu abasondla ngayo inamagobo amakhulukazi. Ngiyethemba uyazi kahle ukuthi iningi nethu sakhula sibelethwa, sifunzwa, njalo sishukwa yibo phela OMAME beSintwini. Kanti, ngokubona kwakho, isilisa seSintwini siwuthatha phi umkhuba wocuku (ngengoba usho wena)? ESintwini, kuthiwa "sigoqwa sisemanzi". Ngombono wakho, usho ukuthi iningi nesilisa seSintwini asigoqekanga, yebo? Kumbe ulandela umthetho othi wona "enyathele udaka inathile"? Mina angivumelani nomqondo othi wona "asikho isilisa soqobo eSintwini". Mawuthathe inkathi, ubheke njalo ubekezele; maningi kabi amadoda anesiphatho eSintwini. Mhlawumbe usuka ujahe, uziphosele kungabe wubani okhuluma ulimi lwethu. Ngendlela okhuluma ngayo, dadewethu ohloniphekayo, sengathi uhleli khona le emafini, emazulwini phela. Mpela kuyikhuni kabi ukuthola umyeni ophelele uma wena uphila nezingilosi zasemazulwini. Isikhuthazo sami ikuthi ehla phezu kwamafu ohleli khona uze napha emhlabeni, yikhona okunabantu; ingilosi cha. Uyazi na ukuthi bashoni abadala uma bethi "zibanjwa zisemaphuphu"? Ukhumbule njalo ukuthi iSintu sethu sisifundisa ukuthi "inyathi ibuzwa kwabaphambili". Usuke wabuza kwabaphambili na, dadewethu? Batheni? Uyazi igama "umendo" eSintwini lisho ukuthi "uhambo OLUDE". Uhambo olugcwele izilingo, neziphicayo izehlakalo. Bheka manje, nento abathi "ukugana" iyafana xathu nomendo. Igcwele izilingo, nezidanisa umoya izehlakalo. Kodwa, isiqokoqela ikubekezela qha; hashi ukulahla imbeleko "ngokufelwa". Akusiwonke amajaha eSintwini anocuku; mhlawumbe ukuswela inhlanhla nje. Iningi nabo bondliwa zintombi nabomame beSintwini, bakhula bencela kubona. Usho ukuthi bonke nabomame beSintwini benza iphutha, nakho phela uthi wena bayingcosana abahlekazi kusilisa seSintwini? Angikholwa nakanci,dadewethu.

Abelungu bathi bona "...respect is something to be EARNED, not freely available to all and sundry...". Uyavuma na?

Ikufisela inhlanhla nempilo ende. Khul'zukhokhobe!

Sala nomusa.

Ndukuzibomvu, your mothers donot teach you ukukhomba lokukhombisa. it is something you learn on your own as you grow up, therefore i donot see were mothers come in. ukuthi watshutshwa ngunyoko akutsho ukuthi you will grow up to be a good and respected person on this earth, it only means you were too young to do it yourself then thats why she had to do it for and. and,i am not in heaven because there is no heaven on earth,or vice versa. just like you i am living on this here earth, and to be frank with you i never said i am looking for (not that i am searching at the moment) a perfect man because that doesnt exist just as much as a perfect woman doesnot exist.you donot know me at all to suggest that i am in heaven, because the qualities i look for in a man are as normal as anything,i donot ask for the moon.
i am quite aware that you earn respect, no doubt about that.and i donot expect anything for nothing.

the above entry is yezi's reply to 2 ndukuzibomvu it's just that she wrote the reply whilst i was logged on.