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#16642 - 04/26/05 09:09 PM
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Ngqwele
Registered: 08/21/02
Posts: 178
Loc: lexington
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Dokotela, You might want to use the Ndebele corpus (an electronic language bank for Ndebele) for contextual meanings: http://folk.uio.no/danielr/africanlang.html
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#16643 - 04/26/05 09:26 PM
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Ndunankulu
Registered: 09/20/04
Posts: 805
Loc: ezintembeni
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#16646 - 04/26/05 09:45 PM
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Ndunankulu
Registered: 09/20/04
Posts: 805
Loc: ezintembeni
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#16647 - 04/27/05 01:06 AM
Re: Isichazamagama
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Ngqwele
Registered: 08/21/02
Posts: 178
Loc: lexington
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Msupatsila,
Kanti isiNdebele wasifunda ngaphi ngoba usipelitsha sengathi yisiShona. Sengika ngabona kwezinye indawo ubhala 'bhadhala', kulokuthi uthi bhadala. Khathesi upelitsha usithi 'livhame' kulokuthi uthi 'livame'? Yini kanti?
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#16656 - 04/28/05 09:14 AM
Re: Isichazamagama
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Ndunankulu
Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 653
Loc: Mtubatuba
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Mkhombandlela,phecelezi Msupatsila
Mnumzane ngizocela ungivumele ngiveze elami ilaka ngokuphawula ngegama: INSWELABOYA.
Kwathi ngonyaka ka 2002, entathakusa ngilalele uKhozi FM, uhlelo 'IZAQHEQHE' ebelwethulwa ngezilokotho ezinhle ngokaMashobane, uRegie Sipho ka Isiah Khumalo. Wabe eseyachaza kabanzi uMntungwa kaMbulazi ngaleligama, INSWELABOYA.
Ngivumele ngithi ukugqwegqwa nami ngizama ukubeka ngendlela uNqabayembube abeka kwacaca ngakhona. UMntungwa wathi: umuntu ngumuntu ngoba enezenzo ezibukekayo emphakathini, enonembeza, ekwazi ukuzithiba kokubi. Umuntu akafani nesilwane (NB: an animal - not specifically a lion, because ngesiZulu, a lion is imbube noma ibhubesi). Isilwane asikwazi ukuzithiba, asikwazi ukuba nonembeza oholela ekuthini senze izinto eziphusile nezihloniphekile. Therefore umuntu ranks above isilwane in terms of virtues.
We all know ukuthi zonke izilwane (animals) zinoboya. Zinjalo nje they rank below umuntu in terms of quality. Now, uma umuntu esebizwa INSWELABOYA, kusuka loyo muntu, by virtue of his mortifying deeds, ethe sink below the first level of ubuntu, down past the level of animals (ezinoboya) and relegated himself to another rock bottom level yakhe yedwa eshaqisayo, engejwayelekile. Basically that person is now in a horrible unparalleled league of his own. Uyindlavini, umdlwembe nje! Yingakho ke loyo feleba esuka abizwe INSWELABOYA. Ugange waze weswela noboya ebesizombiza ngabo sithi yisilwane!
Engethemba wenelisekile.
CHIEF VEZI MADUNA MAFU Madoda, one man's hero is another man's zero. And reading widely opens one's mind. As the great Jazelindizayo says, a mind is only useful if it is open! Hheshe mfokaMngomezulu, Sihayo!
Not that this Maduna fellow is my hero. No ways! Never met him, never will and have no iota of desire to meet him. Meeting him won't pay my bills - it certainly won't keep me warm at night! I just intend to put issues into proper perspective.
I have read the book, MUKIWA by Peter Godwin. He touches on Chief Vezi Maduna Mafu in great detail - both pre and post 1980. Awu madoda, bantwana benkosi - what a man of virtue and principle this Maduna chap is portrayed as! That these rave reviews are given by Peter, an ex RAF foot soldier that was deployed in the Godlwayo area at the height of the Rhodesian civil war is humbling. That the same Peter is famed for studying law at Cambridge, used his legal mind as part of the defence team headed by Adv Adrian de Bourbon in the Dabengwa-Masuku treason trial and later went on to be a famed reporter that exposed the Gukurahundi genocide to the international world, insisting on & taking the Dr John Tsimbas, Mngangagwa, Gen Mujuru & international reporters on an expose-it-all tour of 5th Brigade massacred Matebeleland - in the process earning himself the persona non grata tag on Mgaklaland territory.
Mzwakwethu, uMaduna Mafu was the man, is the man and will remain the man. He stood his ground against Smith, stood his ground against Mgakla, suffering the indignity of being incarcerated unjustly by both fascist goons!
After reading MUKIWA,I sat down, tears almost in the wells of my eyes (but I held back) and said loudly: if what Peter Godwin says is true, then African politics is bollocks. Today you're a hero to your people, laying your life on the line for them, kusasa bayakujikela bakubize impimpi, ufeleba odayisa ngabo kuMgakla!
Then I lost faith in seeing myself as an active cadre in umzabalazo wasezweni lobubha! I'd rather channel my energy to being an independent observer!
Madoda, read MUKIWA and be the better judge.
uMuntongenakudla kaNgogwane waKwaDlangezwa Ngiphum’ ezansi Ongoye Umful’ engiwuphuzayo – ngiphuz’ uThukela – umful’ osh’ izikhawu! Ngiyinkwali yenkosi uMashukumbela uVeyane uMtubatuba umcondo yegusha
Inxangiphilile KwelikaMthaniya
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#16657 - 04/28/05 11:25 AM
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Ndunankulu
Registered: 04/07/05
Posts: 656
Loc: Solongo Life
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#16659 - 04/29/05 12:44 AM
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Ndunankulu
Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 653
Loc: Mtubatuba
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Gqiha Bajove dokotela!
Mina ngoluka Phunga noMageba ngazi kuthiwa, umnyekefuli, and not UMYEKEFULI or UMYEKEVULI! Catch the drift?
Umnyekefuli, ngokwazi kwami isiZulu, kusuka kuchaze umuntu ongumsheshelengwane. Loyo ngumuntu ongumaNgobese, umaMgobhozi. Ngumuntu ophila ngokukhuluma kabi noma ofafaza uhubhu kabhejane (amanga) ngabanye abantu ukuze yena athandeke emphakathini.
Leligama liphuma kwi-senzo, ukunyekefula. Ukunyekefula is the act of ukuzishwashwatha. Ukususa izindaba nenzwabethi ngomuntu othile, uhlose ukudicilela phansi isigqi sakhe - ebese wena uyathandeka emphakathini ngegama laloyo muntu eselingcolile.
Uma ubuka, mina ke ngasenzansi kwayo yonke imibhalo yami ngiyazibongela ngithi: Futheka mnyekefuli. Ngiwuphula ngamabomu umoya wakho - yilento ekubulalayo
Lapho ke ngisuka ngihlose ukuhlukumeza imimoya yohlwezana lwabo monase, nezimfamona ezibhokile esigungwini la, ezidla ngokwenzela phansi labo abanesiphiwo namakhono – zona ezingenazo. Amakhono neziphiwo ezivela koPhezulu.
As for UMKHITHO no MHOBHO, cha wena kaMbulazi, ngiyaweshwama lamagama. Ngiyaqala ngqa ukuwathi klabe evela ngawe laph' esigungwini. Engabe mhlasimbe uhlose ukubiza igama elithi, UMHOBHOLO?
Phansi - phezulu, iyaphuz’ inkukhu. Ayidle ishiyele ezinye.
Yisishwapha sikaSontuli ke leso!
uMuntongenakudla kaNgogwane waKwaDlangezwa Ngiphum’ ezansi Ongoye Umful’ engiwuphuzayo – ngiphuz’ uThukela – umful’ osh’ izikhawu! Ngiyinkwali yenkosi uMashukumbela uVeyane uMtubatuba umcondo yegusha
Inxangiphilile KwelikaMthaniya
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#16661 - 04/29/05 08:19 AM
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Ndunankulu
Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 653
Loc: Mtubatuba
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Gqiha Bajove dokotela!
Umqwashisi: Liphuma kwi-senzo, ukuqwasha. Ukuqwasha is, phecelezi, to lose sleep and be wide awake all night. Therefore umqwashisi is one who’ll make you lose sleep and be wide awake ubusuku bonke.
On the other hand we can also say umqwashisi is one who will awaken you and conscientise you to something new or a new concept. Usuka afane nje ne strong coffee that will keep you awake, aware, conscientised and anticipating.
Impohlo: Leli kufanele ukuthi ngabe uyalazi gqiha. But ke akusenani. Impohlo is a single, never been married man. In other words, a bachelor! Mina ke ngiyimpohlo engena nkinga!
Igcokama: Igcokama yinono, umuntu o-clean kabi, ongahlalwa mpukane. Always smart, presentable and clean. The opposite of that is: inuku, idlabha, isinyefu or idixa.
Isishwapha Lona umuntu ozacile. Umuntu o-skinny. Umuntu omncane ngokomzimba. The opposite of this is: isitetelegu, ingangamela, imbebhedla or umagcwalibhavu. And interesting enough, umngani wami ovutha ekhaleni, uMkheshane kaVumezitha prefers to refer to izidudla as : ingagara ! So uma sihlangana nentombi eyondlekile, sivele siyikhuzele siyibize nge-ngagara!
Mina ke ngiyishwapha sika Somkhele. Umicondo yegusha!
Angingakanani, nasentendeni yesandla ngiyenela.
Inxeshe Eish angazi ukuthi yini le. But ke I must say ukuthi uma ngabe umuntu wesiZulu eshweleza (ukucela uxolo), uye athi : NXESE, not inxeshe!
Phansi-phezulu, iyaphuz’ inkukhu.
uMuntongenakudla kaNgogwane waKwaDlangezwa Ngiphum’ ezansi Ongoye Umful’ engiwuphuzayo – ngiphuz’ uThukela – umful’ osh’ izikhawu! Ngiyinkwali yenkosi uMashukumbela uVeyane uMtubatuba umcondo yegusha
Inxangiphilile KwelikaMthaniya
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#16662 - 04/29/05 04:41 PM
Re: Isichazamagama
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Nkosi
 
Registered: 05/11/04
Posts: 1298
Loc: Emkhathini
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KaSomkhele, ![[Wink]](images/icons/wink.gif) i really appreciate mfowethu imininingwane oyifake la, ungakhathali mfo. Ngile njabulo kakhulu ukungazi ulimi lwakithi, kugoqela laso isiZulu ngoba siyimpande yalo ulimi lwakithi. Sengibona manje ukuthi kungani abangane bebengi biza nge ngangara. Mina ngangibona angathi batsho ngoba nxa umuntu elesaka ebhanga. Kutsho ngingu "mgcwalibhavu". hk hk. Kusobala, kumhlophe mfo, imicijo yakho icacile. Ngibona ngathi ngivixile futhi isipele sika nxese. ----- Ngangi jwayele ukuzwa ubaba ethi umuntu oyisithutha uy' isiyingayinga. Angazi ukuthi lelibala likhona na kwela kithi kumbe kwakuyi scamtho sakhe nje.
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#16666 - 06/12/05 03:37 PM
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Ndunankulu
 
Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 805
Loc: KwaGodlwayo
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Idela ... Mina ngazi idela/kufa, lona ngumuntu onesibindi esesabekayo.
Itshapha... amanye amagama atsho itshapha yilawa alandelayo..inuku, idlabha, lona lichaza ukungahlanzeki, ngokwendawo ohlala kuyo, noma ikakhulu, imisebenzi yezandla e.g. indlu ihlala ingcolile, noma uma ubhala awuqikeleli, uyabhala uyakhansela. etc Okunye futhi kungaba ngumuntu ongathandi ukunanzelela ekwenzeni kwakhe okungafaka uquqaba ensumansumeni e.g. ukuzibonakalisa, noma ukuzazisa ngemfihlo nangamasu enhlanganiso thize, ikakhulu kwezombusazwe.Noma umuntu ongumama ongaziphathanga.
Inkosi ..Inkosi ngumuntu olungileyo. okwesibonelo ngomusho: Umfana kaNkala akalunganga nje yinkosi yomuntu.
Indoda... Indoda yigama elichaza umuntu owenza imisebenzi emihle noma evelele emphakathini, ikakhulu imisebezni ewusizo kumphakathi. Okwesibonelo: Ukuba uMoyo wakwazi ukuyiginqa "Putsch" indoda yakoZwimba, ube uzezwa abantu bethi umfoka Moyo yindoda.
WeMsupa lami ngizamileukuchaza lamagama ngokusentshenziswa kwayo emuntwini, kusesikoleni ukuba okukodwa ngikutholile.
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#16679 - 06/17/05 02:05 PM
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Ndunankulu
Registered: 04/07/05
Posts: 656
Loc: Solongo Life
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#16681 - 06/17/05 03:52 PM
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Ndunankulu
Registered: 04/07/05
Posts: 656
Loc: Solongo Life
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#16684 - 10/11/05 09:20 PM
Re: Isichazamagama
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 5
Loc: south africa
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SANIBONANI NTOZAKITHI
KULOMLOBI OBUZE UKUTHI YINI I-CORK, LENA YOKUVALA IGULA KODWA ANGIYIBONANGA IMPENDULO EMCHAZELA LOKHO. I-CORK, NGESINDEBELE IBIZWA NGOKUTHI YINGCOTHO KANTI IS'KHALA ESIVALWAYO EGULENI SONA KUTHIWA NGUMUNGE.
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#16686 - 10/12/05 07:13 AM
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Nkosi
 
Registered: 05/11/04
Posts: 1298
Loc: Emkhathini
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#16687 - 11/17/05 05:30 PM
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 5
Loc: south africa
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MHLEKAZI NXA UYIQAPHELISISA INKOMO ILESIKHUMBA ESIJINGAJINGA NGAPHANSI KWENTAMO. YILO UBILO. UBILO KE LUTHENJIWE EKUTSHUKENI IZITILOBHO, IN FACT, YILO OLUSETSHENZISWA UKUTSHUKA IZITILOBHO ESIKHUMBENI SENKOMO SONKE.
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#16688 - 11/17/05 05:53 PM
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 5
Loc: south africa
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NTOZAKITHI NGIVUMELENI NGIHLOMULE LAPHO ENGIKWAZI KHONA. SHARING KNOWLEDGE IS THE BEST SERVICE WE CAN DO TO EACH OTHER.
OKWAKUQALA NGIZAPHENDULA NGEZIKHONKWANE NGIPHINDE NGIKHULUME NGOKUCOLA.
IZIKHONKWANE AZIHLATSHWA INSTEAD ZIYABETHELWA, LOKHU KUTSHO UMKHUBA WESINTU LAPHO KUVIKELWA UMUZI OMUTSHA EBATHAKATHINI. UKUBETHELA UMUZI KWENZIWA NXA KUVULWA UMUZI, NXA KUGULWA OKUNGAPHELIYO EGUMENI OKANYE EMNDENINI LANXA KUKHONA OKUSOLISA UKUTHI IKHAYA LINGAHLE LIZUNGEZWE YINTANDO YABENZOKUBI.
QAPHELISISA UKUTHI THIS IS METAPHORICAL (JUST LIKE UKUTHIYA, UKUPHEPHULA, UKUCUPHA E.T.C) IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY ALLUDE TO THE USUAL SIKHONKWANE THAT WE ALL KNOW. KUSETSHENZISWA IMITHI YESINTU ENGINGELALWAZI OLUJULILEYO NGAYO.
OKOKUCINA NGICELA UKUCACISA UKUTHI UKUCOLA MUST NOT BE CONFUSED WITH UKUCHOLA. UKUCOLA LISIKO LOKWAMKELA UMALOKAZANE EKHAYA. USUALLY KUHLATSHWA INTONDOLO. ANGISAQINISEKANGA ILOBA YIKHO LAPHO UMTHANYELO (HOPE YOU KNOW UMTHANYELO IN THIS CASE REFERS TO UDADEWABO OMCINYANE KUMBE UMZAWAKHE OHAMBA LAYE NXA ESIYAKWENDA EMZINI, THE ONE SHE CAN SEND TO RUN ERRANDS FOR HER SINCE SHE DOES NOT KNOW ANYONE IN HER NEW HOME YET.) OGQIZISWA KHONA INYONGO YALEMBUZI EHLATSHIWEYO HENCE NXA SEKUTSHADWA LONA NGUYE OBA NGU-SONYONGWANA.
NCUB' UNTABENDE UMAKHULEL' ENDLELENI UKHALAZOME WASECAWUNA INTO ZIKA SIFANA LO DINGIBIZO.
EKHAYA KUSETSHOLOTSHO BAKWETHU AYIKHO INTO ENGIJABULISA LIKE THE COMPANY OF PEOPLE WHO SEEK TO KNOW ISINDEBELE AND THOSE ASSIST ME LEARN MORE OF ISINDEBELE.
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#16689 - 11/17/05 06:23 PM
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 12/03/02
Posts: 66
Loc: kobhuleya
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ngikushayelihlombe zhwane,sqolo,manyelendleleni kuthenjwinkani,tjolotjo kani kwedu batshele mtakababa abazi
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