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#16884 - 02/04/05 11:49 AM
Lingaphi Bomahlabayithwale ??
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 11/01/04
Posts: 15
Loc: South Africa
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Yeyi madoda kanti abantu bakoGodlwayo bangaphi.Ngitsho omahlabayithwale.izizalwane zenduna eNkulu uMaduna.Mina ngisuka khona koGodlwayo.ngizalwa eVokola njalo ngafunda eMkwabeni primary and secondary up to Form 4.Kambe kungaba khona yini oGodlwayo phakathi kwethu lapha.ngitsho phela abafunda ekhaya beselusa imbuzi betshaywa ngabantu bamasimu.besidla uxakuxaku.behamba esikolo ngenyawo.benatha amahewu esikolo.besidla isithwala esilendumba.Hayikhona amasalad lawa esiwabona kathesi.Akesizwe kuboGodlwayo
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#16885 - 02/05/05 07:34 AM
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 09/20/04
Posts: 69
Loc: Kezi
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Cuba ,
Tshela mina , iFilabuso igoqela igodlwayo mina angiyiqondisisi indawo leyana ngazi ngisedlula njalo ngezikhathi ngisesikolo ngoba ngafunda kulowo mango eJZ moyo kungakabi yi high school sasihamba ngenyawo siyephuma siko Mavako abo Vokola sasidlala labo inguqu loku gijima into nje umango lowana babesesaba amajaha esikolo sethu ,ngomunye umnyaka sathola besilindile eFilabusi school kubizwe izakhamizi zonke zibuye lezinja kanye lezinduku bethi namuhla singayilahla bazasibonisa sathola kulebutho njalo kodwa lona lalizihambela nje , manje lathi sabona ukuthi no chance asizange senze umsindo ngoba vele sasingahamba kubi .
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#16886 - 02/05/05 01:29 PM
Re: Lingaphi Bomahlabayithwale ??
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 02/27/04
Posts: 26
Loc: Salisbury
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Yeish lami nginguMahlabayithwale kodwa olisalad angizangengihambe ngenyawo ngilubhekise esikolo mina ngafunda Ekusileni from Grade 3 - Form 4 Kuyathokozisa ukuthola uGodhlwayo omnyama lapha enkundleni
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#16888 - 02/06/05 11:15 AM
Re: Lingaphi Bomahlabayithwale ??
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 02/27/04
Posts: 26
Loc: Salisbury
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UGodlway' omnyama UGodlway'omuhle ngabomo Umahlabayithwale Umalobola luphakathi...........
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#16889 - 02/07/05 12:44 AM
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Ndunankulu
 
Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 805
Loc: KwaGodlwayo
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filabusi "Umalobola luphakathi........... "
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Ngiyabonga baba ngengcosana yezibongo zikaMahlabayithwale, kodwa lesi esiphezulu sona siyahlekisa, uthi siqinisekile njesona.
Omunye njalo umbuzo, kanti igama elithi Filabusi litshoni, lichaza ukuthini, wulimi bani, yisiNdebele lesi? Lesi sigaba sakoGodlwayo siyindida, kwesinye isikhathi sibizwa Insiza, kwesinye sibizwa Filabusi njalo kwesinye Godlwayo, kanti eliyilo eliqondileyo yiliphi, njalo wonke lamagama aqhamukaphi? Angabe wonke lamagama achaza ngembali kaGodlwayo. Kanti ngubani uGodlwayo, ngubani uDambisamahubo? Yini into uGodlwayo adume ngayo?
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#16890 - 02/06/05 01:35 PM
Re: Lingaphi Bomahlabayithwale ??
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Ngqwele
Registered: 01/19/05
Posts: 196
Loc: KwelikaMjoji
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Cuba and Sibambamahawu Sikhona sigcwele ibhasi. Godlwayo is known of its people who pride themselves on being Ndebele. Godlwayo has always stood against oppression and people who wanted to change its way of life, Godlwayo will stand against Shona opprossors until amen. We are greatly disheartened by our so called great chief who nows sings from the same him with Mugabe. Maduna Vezi Mafu has been known by his anti-Zanu stance. What happened guys, has he sold out? Will Godlwayo be ever the same again?
I went to a school called Sidzibe not very far from Silalatshani, the schools we used play sports with were Dekezi, JZ (Majoda),Siwazi, Mkwabeni, Avoca, Ekusileni, Singwango, etc i have to agree that our school was very good at loosing especially in football matches, but it was very good at practice times. I was there from form 1-2 in 1987 and 88, i would like to say big up to the following guys ebesiyibambe sonke, Reason Siziba, Khumbulani Moyo, Twoboy, Clark, Sakhile Mazhani, Mandla Mazhani, Sijabulile, Vuyani, Busani, Elizabeth, Ndaba. Most of you will remember me of my football crazy skills, i used to play all positions. Are these teachers still alive?, Nigel the headmaster, Mqwayi, MaMsi, Sigubudu, Wamambo, Zinguwo, Ngwenya, Mloyi, Ndlovu the one who used to say that Jesus was crazy, now i think he was a communist because he trained in the former Soviet Union.
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#16891 - 02/07/05 01:45 PM
Re: Lingaphi Bomahlabayithwale ??
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 11/01/04
Posts: 15
Loc: South Africa
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madlenya...wena nguwe umuntu wakith ekhaya sibili.Nxa wafunda eSidzibe nguyakwazi ngale.Lalisithi lingadliwa eBholeni liqalise ukutshaya abantu.Yeyi indawo yakithi isiphelile madoda.Abantu sebephelile ngomkhuhlane.So ungaphi komhlaba madlenya..Lowu undoda owafunda eJZ emajoda ngale unikhumbuza katshana.Phela abantu ababefunda eMajoda babesesabeka phela beyizikhulu.
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#16892 - 02/07/05 02:33 PM
Re: Lingaphi Bomahlabayithwale ??
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 11/01/04
Posts: 15
Loc: South Africa
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madlenya...wena nguwe umuntu wakith ekhaya sibili.Nxa wafunda eSidzibe nguyakwazi ngale.Lalisithi lingadliwa eBholeni liqalise ukutshaya abantu.Yeyi indawo yakithi isiphelile madoda.Abantu sebephelile ngomkhuhlane.So ungaphi komhlaba madlenya..Lowu undoda owafunda eJZ emajoda ngale unikhumbuza katshana.Phela abantu ababefunda eMajoda babesesabeka phela beyizikhulu.
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#16893 - 02/07/05 06:59 PM
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 9
Loc: coventry
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This is a response to madlenya who says that our great chief maduna has sold out, firstly he is not a supporter of mugabe and has never been. My chief is a great man ,a hero and i am so proud of him.If he has sold out so has everyone else.
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#16897 - 02/15/05 12:55 AM
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 9
Loc: coventry
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Eyi madoda you don seem to know wat u are talking about uMaduna lowo elikhuluma ngaye kalimazi i know him personally and i revere his political acumen.Maduna joined ZANu because of the 1987 unity accord coz he had to not because he supported Zanu.He loathes Zanu.One of you guys say that Maduna has sold out coz he got electricity at his home he deserves everything that he has becoz he fought for that country with his soul and life.Your understanding of politics is so deplorable and shallow.
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#16899 - 02/14/05 09:02 PM
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 9
Loc: coventry
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Mnuzane sibambamahawu kengikuqondise nginguSongxaba hayi songxabano.Let me tell u something since 1987 umahlabayithwale has been voting for zanu and right now the sitting MP for insiza is zanu he was voted by umahlabayithwale.Umgabe came to mahlabayithwale in 1992 and you know wat thousands of people came to listen to him not from mashonaland but from mahlabayithwale and when the elections came they voted from him. Perhaps you could explain that to me.I dont think you can blame that on one person, can you? One more thing mfethu uMaduna has fought a good fight and the good life that he has now is a reward for the sacrifice that he made for that country.As much as every man and woman who fought for that country deserves a reward so does Maduna.When the government recognises his contribution he must accept it without any guilt whatsoever because he rightfully deserves it.
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#16901 - 02/15/05 05:54 PM
Re: Lingaphi Bomahlabayithwale ??
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 9
Loc: coventry
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Baba Ncomanzi hayi kabi mfethu, ukuthi abantu bakini havent been recognised for their struggle akusicala likaMaduna. Wat i can say to you is that your day will come, juss hang in there. Ungalahlithemba mfethu.
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#16903 - 02/16/05 06:30 PM
Re: Lingaphi Bomahlabayithwale ??
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 9
Loc: coventry
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Kawungitholi kahle mfethu sibambamahawu i realise that there are so many people who sacrificed and at the end they got nothing, so does this mean that those who get something are sellouts? Maduna never capitulated like i said b4 he joined zanu in 1987 u know the unity thing and since then umahlayithwale lowo okhuluma ngaye has has voted for zanu. Do you remember uKutshwekhaya he was the zanu MP for Insiza from 1985 to 2000 and even now its still under zanu,its your people who are voting for them.So i dont understand when you say uMaduna has sold out uthengise bani ngoba uGodlwayo since the demise of ZAPU has been voting for zanu.The other thing is people's priorities change with time not that they have sold out, uMaduna is a family man he has a wife and kids who need him. He and his family went thru a lot so they deserve a normal life juss like anyone else.He has played his part and i think he deserves some credit.Its up to you guys to pick up from where he left if you have "the balls".
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#16905 - 02/16/05 07:29 PM
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 08/22/03
Posts: 79
Loc: uk
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#16906 - 02/17/05 07:06 AM
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Sikhulu
Registered: 07/29/04
Posts: 201
Loc: Hillbrow Inn
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Bakwethu, mina ngizalwa le kwaWeza eShabani kodwa ngicela ukuyithenga lendaba yakwa Godlwayo. Mina ngokwazi kwami, iNduna kumbe iNkosi ebusayo kumele ibe ngaphandle kweze politiko yama qembu, ukuze isithunzi saleso sikhundla sithuthukiswe njalo sihlale sivikekile. Yebo iNduna ngumuntu naye onelungelo lokuvota ukuya ngemithetho le esayithenga emazweni aseNtshonalanga, kodwa mina ngombono wami, it would do more good than harm , and show a strength of character (ngifunda kuDokotela) if zonke izinduna were to voluntarily give up lelo lungelo. This would ensure their indipendence and ensure ukuthi abantu would be free to follow their politics of choice without the possibility of compromising their loyalty eNduneni. Lena eshiwo umfowethu uSongxaba yokuthi iNduna uMaduna is enjoying the fruits of his sacrifice for the struggle angivumelani nayo. Shouldn't iNkululeko (if that charade can be called freedom) yomphakathi be enough reward for iziNduna, if that's what they fought for? Traditional leadership should be the unifying entity of people of the different political, religious (ngaphandle kwe satanism) etc persuasions who reside within areas of their jurisdiction. INduna uMaduna is doing directly the opposite. Once iNduna iqala ukwamukela ama handouts nezikhundla from iqembu lezo politiko, that's tatamount to the betrayal of the diginity of ubukhosi and all that traditional leadership stands for. I maintain that even if ZPF was not the devil it is, iziNduna should still stay out of party politics. Nathi ngelinye ilanga if we were to create iqembu eli'strong elimela izifiso zethu njengo Mthwakazi, we should discourage iziNduna from from actively participating, lest we become what ZPF is today.
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#16907 - 02/17/05 07:42 AM
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 05/12/04
Posts: 87
Loc: Canada
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Bafowethu ,
Induna le Umaduna abanye asimazi simuzwa nje, ungaze ufunde lencwadi ethiwa WHITE BOY IN AFRICA ,eyalotshwa ngu Peter Gordin umbona evele engumuntu we politiki langesikhathi sempi yeqiniso wayeku politiki yeqiniso njalo .
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#16908 - 02/18/05 12:00 AM
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Ndunankulu
Registered: 05/31/04
Posts: 642
Loc: United Kingdom
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ngimncane engqondweni bakwethu lingixolele. Into engethusayo lapha yikuthi kuthiwe umuntu wasebenza ngesikhathi kulwelwa uzibuse ngakho sekumele athole ama fruits of uzibuse akhohlwe ngabantu. Thina esidla isinkwa esile 'sale-by-date' sekumele lathi sithi thina sikhangelele imuli zethu sikhohlwe ngabanye abangatholi leso sinkwa ngitsho?
As a leader kuqakathekile ukukhangela imuli yakho but at the same time ungakhohlwa abantu bakwenu. Induna yinduna ngabantu.
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#16909 - 02/17/05 05:33 PM
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 9
Loc: coventry
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Madoda i respect your opinions uMaduna has always been a politician since he was a young man and he has never allowed politics to interfere with his work as a chief. He has never forced anyone to join any party.KoGodlwayo people belong to different parties, its up to them to vote whoever they want to and i have never heard anyone saying he/she was mistreated by uMaduna because they belonged to a different party.He treats everyone equally regardless of their political opinion and for that i respect him. About looking after his family i did not mean ukuthi kumele akhohlwe ngabantu bakhe he still cares about his people like he has always done but at the same time he has a family to look after.
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#16911 - 02/18/05 04:49 PM
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 9
Loc: coventry
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Ncomanzi you are making this argument so shallow. Who told you ukuthi uMaduna wafakelwa ngumgabe amagetsi? Maduna has got money to do that for himself,besides ulabantwana abafundileyo abalemisebenzi emihle. How people develop their homes is none of your business.There are so many people koGodlwayo who have electricity in their homes so i find it very absurd that you are making this an issue.
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#16913 - 02/19/05 03:40 PM
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Ngqwele
Registered: 10/14/03
Posts: 126
Loc: Emlageni, eShamba
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S Mafu Awukahle ngolaka, umoya phansi, ungaphakamisi. Uthi: "Who told you ukuthi uMaduna wafakelwa ngumgabe amagetsi? Maduna has got money to do that for himself,besides ulabantwana abafundileyo abalemisebenzi emihle. How people develop their homes is none of your business." Awu funde nansi ilink ezokubeka la engithethe khona lokhu engibhale ngakho ngaphezulu. africaonline Mugabe is bribing traditional leaders By Reginald Gola The traditional leaders of Zimbabwe comprise of the chiefs, headmen and kraal heads as well as senior tribes men who contribute a lot towards cultural functions in a given set-up such as the chief’s advisors and the spirit mediums. This is where they derive the amount of influence that they wield over the community. This group of people has been found to be the most lucrative for people of all sorts of persuasions such as political opportunists, cunning criminals, development agents such as non-governmental organizations and government agents. The British colonialists thrived with the support of this class of people. The chief and all those around him were bribed in form of various hand-outs and privileges in return for whipping their subjects into compliance to the colonial demands. In this way they became willing partners in the entrenchment of the settler colonial administration. Their children were sent to school by either the colonial masters or the missionaries and they were given guns and security especially over the war of liberation. For the above reasons the traditional leaders fell on Mugabe’s crossfire. It is a fact that the chiefs had become a major stumbling block to the liberation struggle with the exception of a few such as paramount chief Vezi Maduna of Insiza who found themselves pushed into prison without trial by the settlers. Over the liberation struggle a number of traditional leaders faced the most cruel forms of death in the hands of the liberation armies. One of the most cruel was that of the Mberengwa chief who found himself bound into a small parcel in a grain sack, doused with petrol for a live cremation. Mugabe maintained a hardliner stance against the chiefs till very recently when he realized that he could actually put their strategic position into full utilization in the same way as the colonialists had done. In the post independence period Mugabe embarked on the stripping of the chief’s authority as a top agenda item. The chiefs were urgently reduced to dust bin stuff. They were impoverished and left with just ceremonial titles, a ceremonial coat, a helmet and the chief’s label. However, the few who were considered to have been politically correct over the liberation war found themselves lined up for hand-outs such as being appointed to the now defunct senate or as non-constituent members of parliament and ZANU PF central committee and politburo members among other party positions. Mugabe derived undying hatred from the chiefs both in his personal capacity and for his party. The few chiefs who had resisted colonial handouts were mainly aligned to the late Joshua Nkomo’s PF ZAPU and were imprisoned by both the colonial regime and later Robert Mugabe in the post independence Zimbabwe for their opposition loyalty. Again relations were not as mended between these chiefs and the tyrant. The chiefs had been continuously humiliated by the District Administrators and other local government personnel over role clarity. Land distribution had become the bone of contention with government which left a lot of the chiefs humiliatingly dressed down. The chiefs recognition, end of humiliation, the acknowledgement of their strategic position is a direct outcome of the emergence of viable opposition politics in the form of the Movement for Democratic Change. Mugabe smelt a rat. He realized that the poverty stricken chiefs would automatically be part of the change process and ready sympathizers to the opposition. The tyrant, as usual, quickly bought his way in with hefty salaries, upgrading of the chief’s homesteads and electrification respectively, promised a government vehicle and unrestricted access to drought relief food as well as a fifty Zim Kwacha per bucket distributed to the starving. Yes, for some if not for most of the chiefs, Mugabe had brought the whole heaven on earth for them to rule. A living testimony was that of chief Makumbe of Buhera who urgently surrendered his wits in exchange for the Mugabe bribe in a most outrageous manner. The honourable chief was seen chasing away food donors who were keen on feeding his starving people some of whom had gone for days surviving on wild berries and edible wild roots from the forest all in the name of impressing Mugabe. For the unsophisticated chief every donor is aligned to the opposition and must be driven out. Suddenly the chief has become one of the most important personalities in Mugabe’s stinkingly corrupt Zimbabwe. The chiefs have been reduced to human rights sharks in their respective areas. They are now in charge of the ZANU PF Internal Displacement of People (IDP) programme which entails the deportation from their respective areas of people who habour varying political beliefs and starving the same from the World Food Programme drought relief food to enforce conversion. Funerals, church services, court proceedings, opposition election campaigns, learning in schools, arrests of ZANU PF thugs and opposition weddings have been disrupted country wide all in the name of ZANU PF with full blessings of the chiefs. In some cases the chief has led the onslaught against suspected non ZANU PF sympathizers and members respectively especially in Mashonaland East. The devil has settled in the chief’s homestead. The chief has been elevated into an agent of rural lawlessness backed by the ZANU PF militia, war rascals masquerading as war veterans, ZANU PF Republic Police (ZRP), ZANU PF National Army (ZNA), the Central Intelligence Organisation (CIO) and the Green Bombers (GB) to ensure that effective harassment of human rights activists and opposition politics supporters are kept on the run and eventually flushed out. This also serves as a permanent rural election rigging infrastructure. The poor and hungry chief is being abused. It is his hunger, poverty, high levels of illiteracy, insecurity and restricted choice that has been taken advantage of by Mugabe. Nansi enye ekhombisa ukuthi ngesingaye secheme nohlangothi oluthile (iZANU PF)kweze politicts : [URL=http://www.africaonline.co.zw/mirror/ stage/archive/020929/opinion1055.html]aficaonline[/URL]
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#16914 - 02/20/05 05:16 PM
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 9
Loc: coventry
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In the first place who is this Reginald Gola. Judging by wat he has written here i think he is a jack. His historical facts are so equivocal and misguided. He is brushing every chief with the same brush which is wrong and wat he is doing here is demeaning the integrity of some chiefs. Chief Maduna is sophisticated, educated, fair, hardworking and his integrity is as untarnished as ever, quite the opposite of wat your Reginald says.uMaduna wasnt sent to school by settlers but by his rich father.Maduna became an MP not because he was pro mgabe but coz he was elected by other chiefs to represent them. He has earned enough money and this goes without saying that he is capable of developing his own home and i find it so absurd that you call $1m a hefty salad. Mr Ncomanzi you cant base your argument on this illthought and cheap report by Regi come on you can do better than this.
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#16915 - 02/21/05 07:22 AM
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 02/27/04
Posts: 26
Loc: Salisbury
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Bafowethu, uVezi Maduna is one of the first Chief's esigabeni sakithi ukuthi afake amagetsi, he did that in the early 80's so ukuthi lithi he has benefited from zpf patronage of the traditional leaders akusi-qiniso.
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#16917 - 04/18/05 12:27 AM
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Ndunankulu
Registered: 04/07/05
Posts: 656
Loc: Solongo Life
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Indaba lena iyachaza. Ngingumafikizolo mina ngithole indaba isikhona, nginguGodlwayo umahlabayithwale lami. Bakwethu uMafu Uvezi, Unkonjeni (Indoda yelizwi elincane) ekadeni wayengumuntu olungileyo kodwa ngesikhathi mina ngisekhaya ngama erections aka 2000 lapha iZPF yatshenisela abantu how ruthless it is. Isikhathi uNdlovu we MDC aze anqobe uMafu was really a changed man. WayeseyiZANU ngokwayo, kudala kwakuncono ubuZANU bakhe babungakhanyi. Kuthe ngemva kwama Parliamentary and kufika isikhathi sokubulawa kuka Ndlovu. (Phela uNdlovu kukhanya bamdlulisa) Kuthe kuthi uLanga uAndrew esekhankasela ukuba lilunga ledale uMaduna the once respected Chief wadanisa abantu, he was at the fore front of bonke ububi obenzekile ekhaya. Lokhu kusenza ubuGodlwayo bethu singathi siyabufihla, ngenxa kaVezi. UMaduna kangimazi njengokuba abanye bemazi, mina ngazi ingane zakhe kakhulu. Ekuhambeni kwami eMajoda (JZ Moyo) ngangifunda lomntanakhe, ngingaphose ngithi ngiyayazi induna.
Godlwayo!! Yithi!!! Godlwayo!! Yithi!!!
On a lighter note, wawuthi ungadlula emzini wenduna utshaya amdonki ngo mcilo, kumbe uwone nje bekuse enduneni, wawuqeda ilanga lonke welusiswe inkunku. Induna yakithi hk hk hk
Kodwa isigugile indoda yelizwi elincane
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