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#17209 - 02/12/06 05:54 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
mhlophekazi Offline
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Registered: 09/30/04
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BATSHELE MKHINTE

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#17210 - 02/12/06 05:55 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
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UNGAZO NGIBIZA THULISILE WE GUTA WENA MININIMUZI [Confused]

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#17211 - 02/12/06 10:08 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
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Hawu we Thu,

Kambe umuntu olegama elihle kangaka angahle athi ngokungena ahle adladlazela okwebhiza likabasi kutheni? Phola uthi tu, uhlale phansi, uphuze isiphuzo, upholise umoya.

Kanti wena elakho lelo Gula lehlukene na kwelikaMakhi, ngibona phela uMakhi kadladlazeli uxoxisana labanye ngokuphola langakuthobeka okubukekayo, kodwa wena okwakho lokhu okwephansi- phezulu mhhh! asazi njalo.

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#17212 - 02/12/06 10:26 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
Khanka Offline
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Registered: 07/03/04
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Loc: Eguswini
UXOLO SIPHEPHELI YINDABA PHELA INDLOVUKAZI
AYIJABULANGA NXA INGABIZWA KAMNANDI,KODWA KE
NGILETHEMBA LOKUTHI UPHOLILE LAYE,NGOBA INHLONIPHO IYATHOLAKALA LAPHANA. [Smile]

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#17213 - 02/13/06 06:58 AM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
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Sethule Thulisile, samkele wakwethu. Molweni, banjani abanye. Uyanyukelwa esigungwini. Uzaxola sengikubingelela wenusukade wafika, yikuthi ufike ngampelaviki pho ke mina bengithe tshampu kancane.

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#17214 - 02/13/06 04:47 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
MaJamela Offline
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Kuleli khefu lekhisimusi eledlulileyo, bengisekhaya, kwaNtuthu. Besibhujelwe ngumka baba omdala, ubesonta eGuta. Esililweni sakhe, ngibone engingakaze ngikubone kusenzakala. Bekusithi nxa sekuyisikhathi somthandazo, bekungakhulunywa ngo Nkulunkulu. Bekukhulunywa ngomufi nje kuphela, ukuthi wenza lokhu, njalo wayemuhle ngalokhu! Engakunanzelelayo yikuthi konke lokhu kwakusenziwa ngolimi lwesitshabi. Kuthi nxa umthandazo usuphelile, omama bebandla, behlabe ezimhlophe, bayegombolozela ibhokisi lomufi kuhlatshelwe, kugidwe awu, kubengani lidili! Eduze lebhokisi khonapho, isithombe sikamdali lowo osewabhubha sasibekiwe!
Kwangethusa sibili. Ngakho bengithanda ukubuza uMakhinte ukuthi wonke umuntu osonta iguta, nxa edlula, imfa yakhe izaphathwa ngale indlela? And why lingabali imibhalo yenu( your bible) emfeni? Okunye futhi, nxa lisithi "okungapheliyo, lanini" liyabe lisitshoni?
Ngingabonga kakhulu nxa ungayiphendula le imibuzo!
Uxolo nxa kuyikuthi limibuzo seyakeyabuzwa yaphendulwa ngaphambilini.

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#17215 - 02/13/06 07:55 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
Makhelwana Offline
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Registered: 01/11/06
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Loc: Ebunandini
Ngilibingelele lonke,

Mina bengicela ukubuza ngaleli sonto ebizwa iUniversal Church, sengizwe abantu abanengi beyifanisa leGuta.
Bengicela lingichazele ngaleli isonto ikakhulu kulabo asebekebalingena kumbe abakhonza khona.

Ngiyabonga.

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#17216 - 02/13/06 09:26 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
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itshiyene le guta ngoba lapho kubalwa same bhayibhili esilalo kuzo zonke inkonzo they believe ku Jesus christ ukuthi yindodana kankulunkulu same as an other churches yi one of pentecostal church and they pray for people as pentecostal churches do.

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#17217 - 02/13/06 10:24 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
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Loc: ngungumbane
khulumani sizwe silalele thina

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#17218 - 02/14/06 03:15 AM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
ILembe Offline
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Liyayizwa na into ekhulunywa nguMajamela kudala ngalitshela ngalinto ethiwa liguta konke okufihlakeleyo kuzavela, ithi ngivale owami. thanks Majamela for that eye openning testimony.

Mthwakaz'omhle ngesihle langothando loxolo kumbe ungoweguta, wapusawapusa, madzibaba or whichever, alikho elinye igama esiliphiweyo emhlabeni esingasindiswa ngalo ngaphandle kwelikaJesu. Amen

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#17219 - 02/14/06 07:00 AM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
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Registered: 08/26/05
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Nxa abantwana bakaMthwakazi izimfa zabo seziphathwa ngetshabi emithandazweni yakhona!!! Asazi.Bayekeleni benze.

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#17220 - 02/14/06 08:14 AM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
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Akungitshele Majamela, emfeni le were they crying. I once witnessed enye yezimfa zabo, no one was allowed to shed tears including unina kamufi. To them it was an abomination. And the immediate family members were turned to alians ngoba bengesi be Gutha njalo lemikhuba yakhona bengayazi. Ijayive eyayitshaywa lapho, ungathi ngamassurppoters eBOSSO lawo engqikilane le CAPS kumbe iDynamos eBF. Babetshitshimba kungathi kungeniswa umlobokazi wenqabutho ekhaya. But I felt pity for the old lady because she was restraining her tears and was so weighed down with stress, abakwabo bengasazi lokuthi bamsize njani ngoba konke ababekwenza babetshelwa ukuthi seliphambanisa, manini khonapho, bomama bebandla sondelani eduze. Kwakuthiwa ingilosi ziwugqagqele lumuzi ngakho lingakhali hlezi lithuke uMoya.

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#17221 - 02/14/06 11:14 AM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
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Registered: 10/14/03
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Loc: Emlageni, eShamba
Ye bandla ngizothanda ukuxolisa kakhulu,kukhona umbhalo ku 'page 4' othi ubhalwe nguNcomanzi, hhayi ke kwenzeka iphushana elithile kwaphambana amakomishi.OkaNcomanzi akahhambisani neGuta, ngikholelwa kokwakithi engafica kwenziwa ngubaba.Ngisho nala emlageni engikhona nginayo imfuko yegwayi engithethisa ngalo
abasemsamu.

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#17222 - 02/14/06 03:30 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
MaJamela Offline
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Hatshi, Gaselomuhle, they were not crying. All they did was dance and clap at the same time, ngapha beklabalala(i guess it was supposed to be singing). Owayekhalela ingoma zakhona wayeseze waginqa.

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#17223 - 02/14/06 07:10 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
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ah kunzima ke eguta yeyi lina asazi umhlaba susiyaphela sibili oqotho.

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#17224 - 02/15/06 02:56 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
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Registered: 01/08/05
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Loc: Montiriyali
kunzima sibili,kukomhlaba la!!

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#17225 - 02/15/06 03:54 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
Makhelwana Offline
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Registered: 01/11/06
Posts: 156
Loc: Ebunandini
Kanti vele wona lamasonto alemfihlo ESATSHWAYO ngeyani. Ngezani imfuko lamafutha angaziwayo ukuba avelaphi emasontweni, njalo kuyini khonokho esesikuzwa ukuba abantu sebengena isonto elithile ngoba liyabathandazela bathole imisebenzi, kumbe BANOTHE? Banengi okuthiwa bazahamba besithi ngegama likajesu bona kuzimpisi ezizifihle esikhumbeni semvu.

Yini umehluko walawo masonto lalokhu okubizwa ngesiNgisi CULT?.

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#17226 - 04/19/06 10:48 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
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I gama elithi Cult lasetshenziswa ngabelung bezama uku-controla ivangeli. Lokho bakhwenza bezam ukubana amazwe onke abelenkolo yesikrestu.

Abantu abansundo ngemvelo babelenkolo ezitshiyeneyo. Yibo ababumba inkolo yokukhnza umdali owodwa. Kube kanti abanye abantu abansudu bakubona kufanele ukubana balandele amasikho, yikho-nje babeleyabo inkolo yabo, e.g. kwakuloThixo weZulu, uThixo wamanzi, etc. Othixo babebanengi.

Abelungu baqala ukubamba abantu ngamandla ukuthi babelenkolo eyodwa abayithi yinkolo yesikrestu. Owayengakholwa isikrestu wayebulawa aphoselwe emafutheni aqwathayo, kumbe bambulale esiphambanweni, kumbe bamtshise. Amakrestu akuqala abulala abantu abanengi ababelenkolo yesintu. Nxa wawungatholakhala ugida ezesintu, kumbe uthethela, kumbe ulengwalo zesintu babesthi ungumhedeni, kumele ubulawe.

Amakhiwa-nje athethela ibhayibhili phezulu, engakwazi ukubana inkolo-le yona ivela ngaphi. Inkolo ngemvele zazinengi endulo.

Umuntu ulemvumo yokukholwa lokhu akubona kungukhuba wabantu bakhe. I Guta raMwari yinkolo yesitshabi, thina kasikwazi ukuthi lababantu bakholwani. Kungani kungelaSigodlo sikaThixo kuleGuta raMwari? Kasenzeni lathi isiGodlo sikaThixo wethu hatshi ukuthatha inkolo yezizwe esingayaziyo sense eyethu.

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#17227 - 04/20/06 10:27 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
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Asazi bantu, kodwa lingaweli entweni ezinje ngoba hey, kuthwa nxa usfuna ukuphuma uyahlanya, zihle zithanye one time inqondo to protect the darkest secrets. mina ngicabanga ukuthi kuyafana le universal kodwa uNox uthi azifani, plz elaborate sisi wami ngoba iuniversal layo ilezitayila ezingapheliyo esizizwayo, kunzima bangane bami....
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#17228 - 05/08/06 04:48 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
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Gutara Mwari case postponed
08 May, 2006

FRANCISTOWN - A case in which a congregation of Gutara Mwari Church in Botswana is fighting with its Zimbabwean counterpart over funds has been postponed to August 11.

Francistown High Court judge Singh Walia made the decision after it was realised that the Botswana congregation is divided into factions due to differences over a number of issues.

The court therefore ordered that, an interim committee shall be constituted within 30 days of the order comprising of two members from each faction.

The committee shall procure, within 45 days of its being constituted, the re-opening of all prayer halls in Botswana. The prayer halls have been closed since July 2004.

At the centre of the dispute is the contention of the rightful recipient of church tithes. Some members of Gutara Mwari Church in Botswana argue that the funds accrued by the local church should go to the locals church coffers while others believe that it should go to Zimbabwe.

In February 2006, Walia could not proceed with the trial because documents brought before him were not written in English.

He emphasised that the language accepted by courts in Botswana was English and advised both counsels to translate those documents into English.

The judge also said it would be easier for the court to proceed if constitutions of both churches in Botswana and Zimbabwe were provided to the court.

Walia said if the court was provided with the constitution, it would therefore, indicate whether a church branch could operate autonomously.

A certain faction in Zimbabwe claims to be the rightful recipient of church funds after the death of the Host (leader of the church) in 2004.

After reading the court order Judge Walia reminded hundreds of Gutara Mwari members who flocked to the high court to resolve their differences and warned that the existence of factions within church would have serious repercussions The applicants were represented by Callender of Francistown while Rabashwa of Boko and Associates represented the respondents. BOPA

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#17229 - 05/08/06 05:50 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
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Bafowethu.

Nxa sesiyibona indaba enje ngesintu baba Potshoza, sizwa UBUHLUNGU kakhulu. Sibuye njalo kusihlekise.

UMBHALO WESINTU UTHI WONA:
1. Izinto zomhlaba ziyagwetshwa khonapha emhlabeni. Yikho lamadlozi ekuhlamukela usesekhonapha emhlabeni nxa izinto ungazihambisi NGENDLELA yoSENDO lwakwenu.
2. Ungonela UMDALI, okuyinto engajwayelekanga, uzagwetshwa nguye kanye oNKULU-NKULU.

Ngamandlwane lawa ukuthi kuthiwe ama High Court asengena indaba ZOMTHETHELO, kumbe INKONZO. Kuyabonisa BHOQO ukuthi akekho oNkulu-Nkulu okukhulunywa ngaye lapha. These are Earthly things and therefore are solved by Humans (COURTS).

Li Zwangendaba.

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#17230 - 05/08/06 09:33 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
Manyanyatha Offline
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Registered: 04/08/05
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Loc: Sikombingo
Kabuye uMakhente azokutsho ukuthi kwenzakalani eGuta. Hk hk hk hk!!!!!!!
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#17231 - 09/15/06 01:39 PM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi
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Please bantu beNkosi lingacini selingena emlindini ngenxa yama khalitsi.

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Kenyan doomsday cult move in bunkers
Thursday, 14th September, 2006
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NOAH’S ARK! Sang, leader of the House of yahweh, leads police and government officials into one of the bunkers

NOAH’S ARK! Sang, leader of the House of yahweh, leads police and government officials into one of the bunkers

MAUCHE, Kenya, Thursday - Kenyan followers of a US-based religious sect which predicted the world would end after a September 12 outbreak of nuclear war moved into bunkers on Wednesday despite the failure of their prediction.

Dozens of members of the House of Yahweh — dressed in gas masks, gloves and long overcoats — have built a network of underground hideouts in the small highland village of Mauche.

They have stocked the bunkers with dried fermented flour meant to feed them for a year, by which time sinners would have been wiped off the Earth, according to their beliefs.

“Those who have been doubting us will in hours be ashamed and if the effect of the war is not felt here, then let the police arrest us,” Mosheh Sang, leader of the sect in Kenya, told journalists while packing sacks of flour into a bunker.
“We shall stay in the bunkers for a period of one year,” Sang said.

Kenyan authorities have been closely watching sect members to avoid a repeat of the aftermath of an unfulfilled prophecy in Kanungu in western Uganda, where more than 900 members of the Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments were burned alive in 2000.

Police said they were worried that the bunkers could cave in despite followers of the cult erecting supporting wooden pillars in the six-by-ten foot bunkers.
Underground water was seeping into the hideouts which police said would weaken the structures.

“Though there is freedom of worship in the country, our fears are that the members could die, not from the so-called nuclear war, but by the bunkers caving in,” Dominic Karanja, a senior police officer in the area, told reporters.
But the cult’s followers said it was Yahweh’s (Hebrew for God) way of providing water for them.

According to Sang, a nuclear war between the United States and North Korea only failed to kick off on Tuesday as expected due to difference in international time zones.

“Members of our sect who are in the US will not be affected as they are protected by Yahweh,” Sang added.

According to its website www.yahweh.com, the group was founded in Abilene, Texas.

“September 12...You need to put this date on your bathroom mirror. You also need to make preparations for the dark days ahead, which will affect every person on earth,” the site says.

“There is a place of safety but like their unbelief in the Sabbath, the world will not believe this message, neither will they repent of their sins of murder, fornication, or theft. You need to start training now in the ways of Yahweh,” the website says.
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http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/12/521129

http://www.yahweh.com/

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#36144 - 02/16/08 08:30 AM Re: Guta Ra Mwari and Mthwakazi [Re: Mangethe]
lungani Offline
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I just stumbled on this topic. O-Mkhinte labanye abebandla leGuta, lisebenzile, ukuphendula imbuzo yonke le. Kuya bongeka lingadinwa lakusasa.....
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