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#17361 - 12/10/05 07:03 PM UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mahlab'ayithwale Ndunankulu Registered: 11/21/05 Posts: 677 Loc: Emlindini Wesambane	NGIMANGELE UKUBONA UKUTHI SOLABANTU BAKITHI ASEBESUKE BENZA IHLAZO LELI ELITHIWA YIBUTABANE,I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I WENT TO A PARTY LAPHO ENGIBONE NGAWAMI AMEHLO MADODA ABANTU BAKITHI BEBHIZI BEQABULANA.BAPHINDE BANGITSHELA UKUTHI BAYASHADANA,KANGAZI MADODA KUMBE MINA YIMI ENGISESEMUVA INTERMS OF CIRVILISATION,NGAKHOKE NGITHE KANGIZWE KINI ZINSIZWA LEZISIZWAKAZI LIKE LINGAZISE UKUTHI SESAMUKELA NA LESI ISIMAKANJANI, NGANGISIZWA BESHO BETHI U KEVIN NCUBE UYISO NGINGAVUMI UNTIL MY COUSIN SAW HIM KISSING SOME GUY,NGITSHO ESINTWINI SAKITHI.PLIZ MADODA AKENI LINGICAZELE LENTO,OMUNYE UMFANA BATHI USHADWE NGUMLUNGU,HAVE WE REALLY ADOPTED THESE WESTERN CULTURES THAT MUCH.
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#17362 - 12/10/05 09:01 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
mathimula Ngqwele Registered: 04/28/03 Posts: 132 Loc: canada	mina ngiphelelwa ngamathe. Ngididekile kodwa eCanada zihlobo zami banebgi. Mina sengazitshela ukuthi as long as umuntu engathintani lezami izibunu kenze akuthandayo. Kodwa sengananzelelal ukuthi lase balungwini banengi abangayi thandi lento..... Akeni sihlolisise lendaba nxa bekhona lapha enkundleni labo bengesabi babeke imibono yabo.
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#17363 - 12/10/05 09:22 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
BhudiMathawuzeni Ndunankulu Registered: 03/06/03 Posts: 810 Loc: toronto/canada	heyi madoda indaba leyi inzima sibili...... kodwa mina angiboni cala phela lapho nxa umuntu ekhetha ukuzwanana le same sex yakhe, mhlawumbe kukhona okumnandi abakukholisayo thina esingakuboniyo phela , njengoba besitsho ukuthi '' another man's meat is another man's poison''
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#17364 - 12/10/05 09:41 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
DUMAKUDE Mafikizolo Registered: 09/13/04 Posts: 31 Loc: EZULWINI	[B][/B]
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#17365 - 12/10/05 11:09 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
nozithelo Mafikizolo Registered: 09/30/04 Posts: 10 Loc: canada	mina l think banengi abantu abayizitabane from ekhaya but a lot bayafihla,look at the late banana,lomkaradi wehighlanders plus a few others we use to see e city hall
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#17366 - 12/11/05 01:25 AM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
mkhize ozikhizayo Nduna Registered: 05/30/04 Posts: 349 Loc: Emaguswini	mina ukhabazela ngithi ukukhuluma ngayo lento kulihlazo kimina kodwa ngizothi fahla ngamancane.Ngamaloyo la umuntu ophilileyo angiboni ukuthi engenza into efana lale. lihlazo leli elenzakala ekhaya kukudala kube umkhonto sesiyuthe ntwa esifubeni kwanukigazi.
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#17367 - 12/11/05 02:13 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mahlab'ayithwale Ndunankulu Registered: 11/21/05 Posts: 677 Loc: Emlindini Wesambane	KAKUSICALA SIBILI NXA UMUNTU EZIKHETHELE UKUFUNANA LAMANY'AMADODA KUMBE UDADE AFUNE ABANYE ABESIFAZANE KODWA ISINTWINI SAKITHI SESIKWAMUKELA YINI NJENGAMA NORMAL RELATIONSHIP,APPARENTLY OKUNYE UKULITSHONA KUTHETHISE OMUNYE UMFOWETHU KWATHI "AMANDEBELE YIWO AQALE UBUTABANE EZIM,NXA BEKHONA ABANJALO KABATSHO UM'BONO WABO KUMBE THINA YITHI ESILAHLEKILEYO.
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#17368 - 12/11/05 04:30 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
mathimula Ngqwele Registered: 04/28/03 Posts: 132 Loc: canada	Abakho yini aba Gay lapha enkundleni bazimele, baphendule
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#17369 - 12/12/05 06:01 AM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
mkhize ozikhizayo Nduna Registered: 05/30/04 Posts: 349 Loc: Emaguswini	quote: Originally posted by mathimula: Abakho yini aba Gay lapha enkundleni bazimele, baphendule iloba ekhona akulamuntu ongamela umbuzo ofana lalo mahlaba'ythwale siphawulele ukuthi bewufele uhlose ukuthi sihlaziye ngaluphi uhlobo mina sengididekile emqondweni.
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#17370 - 12/12/05 06:19 AM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Dokotela Nkosi Registered: 05/11/04 Posts: 1298 Loc: Emkhathini	Mina ngokuxazulula kwami, ubutabane yinto ongayifundiswa kumbe ukuqanjiswa ngumqambisi. Uyakhetha ukuthi uyafuna yini ukuba yisona sitabane kumbe hatshi. Ngolwazi lwengwalo ezingcwele ezilotshwe ebhayibhilini, kusobala ukuthi ubutabane yinto engalunganga, njalo elihlazo kuso lika Mdali. UMdali wakwenza mgceke ukuthi umuntu wesilisa abelesitho esilungele ukungena kunsitha yowesifazane, hatshi kuntuba yodede. Kunjalo ke, akudingi lwazi kumbe ubucoko ukuthi, uwonkewonke azi into ezimgceke kanje. UKevin Ncube, ngangike ngatshi ukuthi yi'stabane ngoba ngibone esenza imiciko engajwayelekanga. Njalo bakhona ababe sebenza laye engibaziyo ababengi tshela ngezenzo zakhe. KuMthwakazi, ngibona kumele abantu abakhetha ubutabane bafakwe kulangabi lesihogo, ngoba bengazi ukusebenzisa izitho zabo zomzimba. Kuyafana lokuzama ukubhosha ngendlebe- kusobala indlebe is not designed for that! akudingi rula lokho.
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#17371 - 12/13/05 12:45 AM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mabonwabulawe Ngqwele Registered: 10/14/03 Posts: 126 Loc: Emlageni, eShamba	iyaxaka ngempela lendaba yezinkonkoni(gay) kodwa ngeke sinye nganxanye Mthwakazi singemanzi.Ngalokho ngisho ukuthi mina okaNcomanzi anginankinga ngempela nabantu abaphila lempilo.Ngizwisisa sengathi kuba ukuthi u'straight' or u'gay'.nxa u'straight ufunelani ukucindezela o'gay'? akaze ngezwa abantu aba'gay' bethi banenkinga ngabantu aba'straight'. ngilenkinga ngabantu abafana noMkhize.yemadoda anothula nxa ninemicango emibi kanje ngezinye izidalwa. uma'straight' ngempela njengami nje ungangabazi ubu'straight' bakho angikholwa ukuthi ungazihlupha ngokuthi amanye amadoda a'gay' ngoba imizwa yakho yiyona ekuvikelayo ukuthi ungathintani nenye indoda ngokocansi kepha nxa uzingabaza yikhona la ongaba nenkinga khona koba uphila impilo engamanga wesaba ukuthi uzothi qaqabu usuvuka phansi nenye intshebe. okaMthwakazi okhetha ukuphumela eshashalazini ngobu'gay' bakhe ngicabanga ukuthi usuke e 'very very very gay', ngani ngoba yinto asuke ezame ukuyicindezela okwesikhathi eside kodwa kwehlula.akulula ukuthi ungaphumela eshashalazini uzisho ubu'gay' empakathini olabantu abafana no Doc no Mkhize. Phansi ngobucindezeli madoda.Doc sobesiyaphazama kakhulu uma yonke into ingaqhutshwa ngokwebhayibhili. ibhayibhili njengami ngilithatha ngokuthi ngumlando(history) wezinye izizwe. ukuthi kubhalwe ngabantu aba'gay' kuchaza khona ukuthi yinto ebikhona nakulezo zizwana kodwa icindezelwa. izocindezelwa kuzekubenini lendaba. abakhululwe. angime la okwamanje.
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#17372 - 12/13/05 12:47 AM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
bunandi kill me Ndunankulu Registered: 09/20/04 Posts: 805 Loc: ezintembeni	KUDING RULA LOKHO SAYS DOC
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#17373 - 12/13/05 12:47 AM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
bunandi kill me Ndunankulu Registered: 09/20/04 Posts: 805 Loc: ezintembeni	AKUDING RULA LOKHO SAYS DOC
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#17374 - 12/13/05 12:50 AM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
bunandi kill me Ndunankulu Registered: 09/20/04 Posts: 805 Loc: ezintembeni	MINA NGAPHOSA NGABA YISTABANE BUZANI IMIBUZO YENU NGIYIPHENDULE JUS JOKING MINA FROM WHAT I GATHER PEOPLE IN LIFE WANT HAPPINESS AND IF THEY SO FIND THAT HAPPINESS IN THE SAME SEX THEN SO BE IT. ITS TRUE KULOTSHIWE ENCWADINI YOKUPHILA UKUTHI YISONO BUT IF IM NOT MISTAKEN UBUSELA ,UKUFEBA ETC ALL THOSE THINGS YISONO BUT PPLE STILL DO THEM
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#17375 - 12/12/05 03:04 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Dokotela Nkosi Registered: 05/11/04 Posts: 1298 Loc: Emkhathini	Ncomanzi, ngokubona kwakho veza imizwa yakho ngomfanekiso wesitho sowesilisa phakathi kwentuba yodede. Veza imizwa yakho ngokuthi ukubona njani, ma idede seludibane lemhluzi yomzimba ephethe inhlanyelo. Qathanisa lesenzo esibalulekile, esadalwa ngu Thixo, INkosi yamakhosi, esigoqela ukuhlangana kowesilisa lowesifazane ngezitho zabo ezilungele umdlalo wecansi. Mina ngibona ingcekeza ngoku zama ukucabanga ukuthi ma umuntu bem'pensela izbusiso kubanjani. Enye into etshengiswa ukuswela ibreyini, yikuthi umtshaza awulandlela yokwenza imihluzi yocansi. Mina ngithi ma kusenza, uMdali aphosele bonke abakhetha linto embi kangaka, esihogweni - afake istofu ku HIGH. Ungezwa njani ma umntanakho, engathi yena ukhetha ukuba yisitabane?
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#17376 - 12/12/05 06:37 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
matshetshe Ngqwele Registered: 09/16/05 Posts: 115 Loc: bulawayo	kanti mthwakazi selabanjani bantu abahle , abalembeko ,abathobekileyo , abalobuntu , abalungileyo , liqinisile sibili ukuthi kulendebele elithi lona ihlazo leli ofunayo kenze ,nxa imizwa yakhe isithi kabhotshele endleleni kabhotshe ngoba lilungelo lakhe lento yenu yamalungelo liboyenza liyithela amanzi ,umangingavuka kusasa ,sengitshade lodadewethu lizathi lina yebo kulungile yimizwa yethu, lamuhla ngingavuka ngizilobolele intombazana yami ,ngayenza umfazi ,kambe lilungelo lami , kulezinto ezonela isizwe zona nje ngokuhlanekela imvelo ,uNkulunkulu uyimvelo isizwe ngesizwe siyamhlonipha ngokuhlonipha lokulandela imvelo wena ubususithi umuntu uyangena nge 'exit door" abesesithi 'its legal' quote from one preecher ,legal ngaphikwakhona inkanuko zethu vele zihlezi zisilwa lokulunga lemvelo kodwa asizivumeli kufana nje lomuntu omdala owenza isex ledonki ,kambe who in his right senses can justify such ,then lina in your perveted minds you want to justify such filth worse still ulindebele ,mina nxa lani bantu bakithi selisithi lento inhle kayenziwe ,lobumthwakazi bakhona ngingabenyanya ,
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#17377 - 12/12/05 06:42 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mabila Nkosi Registered: 05/14/04 Posts: 2123 Loc: Ayowa	Mina ngizwa ngiyidondela lengxoxo yonale qotho ngoba it is not a necessary debate and secondly, I have failed to be a lady when it comes to this topic. People who practice homosexuality lack common sense cha! Kambe imvelo ingathi isegcekeni kanje, ibaluleke lase nyamazaneni, wena ubulokhe ulwisana layo uvele uzamani? Ngiyangibone amathole, amazinyane embuzi, lemidlwane yezinja kuthikaza kugadana kukuduna kodwa ngoba kusa developha kusakhula. Kungakhula akuthikazi lakanci! Pho lina aba gay lama lesbian sithini ngani?? Yindaba likhuthisa lingabantu asebekhulile or at least seem to be??
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#17378 - 12/12/05 06:57 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
mkhize ozikhizayo Nduna Registered: 05/30/04 Posts: 349 Loc: Emaguswini	quote: Originally posted by Ncomanzi: iyaxaka ngempela lendaba yezinkonkoni(gay) kodwa ngeke sinye nganxanye Mthwakazi singemanzi.Ngalokho ngisho ukuthi mina okaNcomanzi anginankinga ngempela nabantu abaphila lempilo.Ngizwisisa sengathi kuba ukuthi u'straight' or u'gay'.nxa u'straight ufunelani ukucindezela o'gay'? akaze ngezwa abantu aba'gay' bethi banenkinga ngabantu aba'straight'. ngilenkinga ngabantu abafana noMkhize.yemadoda anothula nxa ninemicango emibi kanje ngezinye izidalwa. uma'straight' ngempela njengami nje ungangabazi ubu'straight' bakho angikholwa ukuthi ungazihlupha ngokuthi amanye amadoda a'gay' ngoba imizwa yakho yiyona ekuvikelayo ukuthi ungathintani nenye indoda ngokocansi kepha nxa uzingabaza yikhona la ongaba nenkinga khona koba uphila impilo engamanga wesaba ukuthi uzothi qaqabu usuvuka phansi nenye intshebe. okaMthwakazi okhetha ukuphumela eshashalazini ngobu'gay' bakhe ngicabanga ukuthi usuke e 'very very very gay', ngani ngoba yinto asuke ezame ukuyicindezela okwesikhathi eside kodwa kwehlula.akulula ukuthi ungaphumela eshashalazini uzisho ubu'gay' empakathini olabantu abafana no Doc no Mkhize. Phansi ngobucindezeli madoda.Doc sobesiyaphazama kakhulu uma yonke into ingaqhutshwa ngokwebhayibhili. ibhayibhili njengami ngilithatha ngokuthi ngumlando(history) wezinye izizwe. ukuthi kubhalwe ngabantu aba'gay' kuchaza khona ukuthi yinto ebikhona nakulezo zizwana kodwa icindezelwa. izocindezelwa kuzekubenini lendaba. abakhululwe. angime la okwamanje. UVUNYELWE UKUBA WEHLUKANE LABANYE ILOBA KULIHLAZO LENTO OYIKHULUMAYO.USUKE WAYISEKELA KAKHULU LINDABA NGAKHO LAMI SENGIVALE ISICIKO SODIYO NGOKUTHI UMI KULUPHI UHLANGOTHI.
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#17379 - 12/12/05 08:41 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mahlab'ayithwale Ndunankulu Registered: 11/21/05 Posts: 677 Loc: Emlindini Wesambane	DOC DOC,DOC,WANGIMBULALA NGOHLEKO.INTO YAMALUNGELO LE,KUTSHO PHELA UKUTHI KAYIKHO MANJE LENYE ONTO ESINGATHI IMBI,SESIZAVUMELA AMANTU BASHADE ODADEWABO PHELA. DOC UMDALI WAY'TSHISA NGOMLILO ISODOMA LEGOMORA ESEBONE UBUTABANE SOBANDILE.
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#17380 - 12/12/05 08:52 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mahlab'ayithwale Ndunankulu Registered: 11/21/05 Posts: 677 Loc: Emlindini Wesambane	MKHIZE NGIYIQALA LENDABA MKHIZE BENGIFUN'UKWAZI UKUTHI MTHWAKAZI USEYAMUKELA LENTO YINI,NGOBA SENGIBONE ABAFANA BAKITHI SEBEPHATHEKE NGALENTO,NGOKWAZI KWAMI THINA ABESINTWINI SIQAKETHESA AMASIKO ETHU LEMITHETHO YOBUTHU BETHU.
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#17381 - 12/12/05 08:59 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mahlab'ayithwale Ndunankulu Registered: 11/21/05 Posts: 677 Loc: Emlindini Wesambane	NCOMANZI AMALUNGELO LA,SESIZAKUTHI LABABAMBA NGEGANYAVU LILUNGELO LABO PHELA SINGEKEL' UKUNANZELELA,ODADEWETHU BAZASWELA ABABASHADAYO PHELA NXA AMADODA ESESITHI ANGAKHANGELA EYINYINDODA AVUKELWE.
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#17382 - 12/12/05 10:37 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mabonwabulawe Ngqwele Registered: 10/14/03 Posts: 126 Loc: Emlageni, eShamba	ya ngiyezwa ukuthi luselude ukhalo ekutheni sijabulele, sikhuthaze ukukhululeka kwabantu, ukukhululeka okugcwele hhayi ama'half' 'half'.Lendaba yezitabane ngeyokuzalwa, abazenzisi lababantu.Njengoba esho uDoc ukuthi ma ungayicabanga ngamehlo enqodo, ya ithanda ukuphica umcabango. Mina ngiyengibathathe ngokuthi ngabantu abakhubazekile ngokwemizwa.ngoba kungesikho ukukhubazeka ngabe nabo baba ngamanina nabanumzana abahloniphekileyo abanemizi.Yona lendaba akusikho ukuthi ngeyanamuhla indala kunami nani kakhulu khulu khuphela abadala bebekwazi ukunyathezela ngazozombili izinyawo.Hhayi ke mina uNcomza anginankinga etheni ma ingeza eyami ingane ithi injalo ngingahlushwa ukucabanga ukuhlukumezeka ezokuthola emphakathini wakithi ongayivuni lempilo kodwa mina ngikhululeke kakhulu.Ngiphile nabo abantu abazitabane, futhi ngiyabazwisisa lokho akusishintshi simo sami kwezocansi. Fundani ukungabi ngabacindezeli bantu bakithi. anozibuza ukuthi ukube nazalwa ninjalo nanizakumela ukucindezelwa kanje yini! angiceli ukushunyazwa ngalokhu esengikushilo.
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#17383 - 12/12/05 11:20 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mahlab'ayithwale Ndunankulu Registered: 11/21/05 Posts: 677 Loc: Emlindini Wesambane	HHAYI NDODA MA UTHI WENA LENTO NGEYOKUZALWA LAYO KANGIVUMELANI LAWE NGOBA NXA UNGAKANGELA ABANTU ABANJENGABO GEORGE MICHAEL,ELTON JOHN THEY WERE WOMANIZAZ KODWA KANGAZI UKUTHI KWASUKA KWATHINI,PHOKE WENA OSUZAKUBIZA NGENGEHLAZO ISINTWINI YIKUPHI NXA USITHI WE SHOULD JUSTIFY SUCH ACTS.
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#17384 - 12/12/05 11:27 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
mninimuzi Nduna Registered: 08/12/05 Posts: 457 Loc: EMNQAMLEZWENI	Mina ngingomunye walaba abangathandi ukubona omunye umuntu ecindezelwa,yikho ngithi mina laba abacindezela abanye ezibunu ngempenseli zabo ababizelwa emagumeni eBhabhafilids bagongodwe phambi komphakathi,besebetshiswa,umlotha wabo ujikelwe olwandle olumagagasi abanzi anolaka olukhulu,khona umhlaba uzosala uhlambulukile,ulabantu abaziyo ukusebenzisa impenseli lezibunu zabo ngendlela eqondileyo. Ngumbono wami lami bakwethu
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#17385 - 12/13/05 07:21 AM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
matshetshe Ngqwele Registered: 09/16/05 Posts: 115 Loc: bulawayo	mnini sisonke okweslogani sezanu ,into ehluphayo lapha yikuthi isizwe sizalimala kangakanani ngalesi isenzo kumbe sithi umkhuba ,yazini ukuthi ubhanana abused his position of authority esithi nje engakubona akuhawukele akuqile kumbe drug them abesebampensela ,phela lento iyafundiswa or kumbe you can be trained by an experienced stabane for his/her benefit so nxa lento isivunyelwa them abantwana bethu will be at the mercy of the present day bhananas, futhi lento ilesatanism phakathi kwayo ama parties abo ayenyanyeka into mina lawe esingeke sayenza kwawethu amaparty ,lina elithi lento ngeyokuzwala do not be used by satanist to pervet the children of mthwakazi isodoma legomora zathelwa umlilo ngale ndaba yobutabane ,khona vele nje ukukhuluma ngayo or to tolerate it speaks volumes about one's moral fibre ,nxa liyizitabane phumelani egcekeni lingavali ngamalungelo
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#17386 - 12/13/05 08:26 AM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mabila Nkosi Registered: 05/14/04 Posts: 2123 Loc: Ayowa	Liyazi na ukuba izitabane have the highest incidence of STIs, highets incidence of HIV/AIDS than any other group, highest use of drugs, alcohol and other substance abuse, the highest incidence of internet recruitment and connections for sex, highest incidence of group sex and other wierd orgies, and highest numbers of pedophile offendors??? Lingadlali ngalintole.....it will cripple a society!
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#17387 - 12/13/05 03:48 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
matshetshe Ngqwele Registered: 09/16/05 Posts: 115 Loc: bulawayo	mabila uqinisile dade ,futhi lento ilesatanism enkulu phakathi kwayo ,ama orgies lawana are satanic rituals ,so lingafuni ukuletha ukhokha ekhaya elingawazi
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#17388 - 12/13/05 06:01 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mabonwabulawe Ngqwele Registered: 10/14/03 Posts: 126 Loc: Emlageni, eShamba	Bengithi ngiphose owami umbono bosisi nabo bhudi, hhayi ke ningaze nithini ningathangani akuwuguquli owami umbono kakhulukazi nxa sekufakwa nokholo phakathi(satanism or christianity), hhayi angikho lapho. ngibheke ukuhlukumezeka kwenkululeko yabantu, amaSTIs, drugs ngokunye njalo kodwa abantu abakhululeke ukulandela imizwa yabo kwezecansi.
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#17389 - 12/13/05 09:20 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mabila Nkosi Registered: 05/14/04 Posts: 2123 Loc: Ayowa	Abeze bazozama labo ukusisuthisa Ncomanzi. Thina sesibekile eyethu imibono ngemizwa yabo!
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#17390 - 12/13/05 11:12 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
ubuntu Mafikizolo Registered: 10/21/03 Posts: 34 Loc: bulawayo	Labo abakhetha ukuba gay, that's unfortunate but if we look at it from a biological point maybe bakhona abangayikhethanga linto. I believe we as human beings all have some form of dsyfunction in our make up, maybe labo benziwa yimpoxo yokudalwa. Lekhaya silabo, leBible mentions them so akusinto entsha. Amanye amasocieties are permissive kuphela that is y kukhanya angathi banengi in other corners of the world than others.
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#17391 - 12/13/05 11:45 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mahlab'ayithwale Ndunankulu Registered: 11/21/05 Posts: 677 Loc: Emlindini Wesambane	WHY KULEMIKHUHLANE IMINENGI KULENTO,COZ MDALI WAYITHUKA LENTO(ITS CURSED)YIKHO MDALI WADALA U ADAM LO EVA WAYENGAYISISO SITHUTHA. U MABILA UTSHAYE ENAMBENI
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#17392 - 12/14/05 01:34 AM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
xhiba Mafikizolo Registered: 11/25/03 Posts: 24 Loc: komahlathini	singazondi umuntu oyisitabane kodwa sizonde izenzo zabo ngoba the aren't in line with our culture,it isn't building our country futhi kungcono oyiso engaziqenyi futhi engafuni ukwazisa abantu who have nothing to to do with them ngoba thina aba'straight' nxa sesikuhlasela sesikunxaphela, ungacabangi ukuthi siyakuzonda. Mina emadilini eLondon eyenziwe ngabakithi, ngiyake ngibabone. Begonene,beqabuzana njalo bebambabambana okufuna ukusitshengisela ukuthi babonke.Thina the majority who are straight kawusiboni sikwenza in excess lokuthi sibonakale. Bona yindaba befuna ukuzibonakalisa? I guess we all entitled to choice but know that your choice has consequences whether in the short term or the long term
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#17393 - 12/14/05 04:41 AM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mabila Nkosi Registered: 05/14/04 Posts: 2123 Loc: Ayowa	I think we all have a responsibility as well meaning citizens to assist one another to make healthy choices even kwezocansi esizenza ngensitha. Izinto ezensiwa ngensitha nxa singazelusi come back to haunt the whole society! The President banana example cited earlier by Matshetshe is an excellent one. Health Risks For Men Who Have Sex With Men Health Risks For Women Who Have Sex With Women
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#17394 - 12/14/05 07:01 AM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mangethe Ngqwele Registered: 08/26/05 Posts: 195 Loc: Bulawayo	Uma izinyamazana ezingakhulumiyo zisazi ukuthi le yiyo okumele ngiyikhwele ngoba ngensikazi,umuntu ehluleke ukwazi lokhu,then kule problem enkulu.Ungezwa njani uma kuthiwa uyihlo ungqikilana lelinye ixhegu la next door.Kumbe unyoko laye wenza into efanayo lomama we layinini? Kuyayangisa lokhu.If there can be a comment from the so called gays/lesbians.
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#17395 - 12/14/05 01:57 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
mbilaka Sakhamuzi Registered: 12/02/05 Posts: 50 Loc: jhb	Lento yeHOMOSEXUALITY or abanikazi bayo abayibiza ngokuthi GAY yimbi iyenyanyisa kakhulu.
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#17396 - 12/14/05 02:43 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
ubuntu Mafikizolo Registered: 10/21/03 Posts: 34 Loc: bulawayo	I'm not sure lapha whether the issue here is that of people being homosexual or their exhibitionist tendencies kuma parties lapha as other members have alleged. In other words, does uMthwakazi accept a public display of affections for heterosexuals and condone the same actions if it were gay people? Ngamanye amagama esingakufuniyo yibutabane babo kumbe ukuthi bathandanelane phambi kwamehlo kazulu?
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#17397 - 12/14/05 03:01 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mangethe Ngqwele Registered: 08/26/05 Posts: 195 Loc: Bulawayo	The issue here is, ubutabane.Are you condeming or supporting it Mnumzana?
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#17398 - 12/14/05 04:54 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
ubuntu Mafikizolo Registered: 10/21/03 Posts: 34 Loc: bulawayo	I'm trying to look at this with an open mind which should not however be misconstrued for being supportive. Our condemnation or acceptance will not necessarily make this social abomination extinct in as much as there are countless other social ills afflicting society today that won't go away just because we find them repugnant.
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#17399 - 12/14/05 07:14 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mahlab'ayithwale Ndunankulu Registered: 11/21/05 Posts: 677 Loc: Emlindini Wesambane	SO ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY LETS JUST LET THEM GET ON WITH IT LIKE THE WESTERN SOCIETIES DO,THE PROBLEM HERE MY FRIEND IS THINA SINGABANTU(AMANDEBELE).ASIBAZISE UKUTHI LENTO KASISOZE SAFA SAYIVUMELA.
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#17400 - 12/14/05 08:03 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Ngu Spikiri lo Mafikizolo Registered: 09/29/05 Posts: 7 Loc: Mthwakazi	Ubuntu, But we must continue to directly condemn these acts, which you correctly describe as 'social ills' that are 'repugnant'. If we do not take a stand against them, it is as good as approving of them. After all, the evidence is all too clear, to show just how detestable this is. I think that when people speak of 'Gays', they do not fully realise what exactly is involved in these active relationships. Let someone who knows graphically teel us. Amaviki athile usehluleka ukudla ngenxa yokwenyanya. And now they are allowed to adopt innocent children, and 'infect' them with this disease. Hatshi mina lizangixolela, kodwa lokhu kangivumelani lakho. It is unnatural. IF A MAN 'THINKS' HE HAS NO NATURAL SEXUAL DESIRE FOR A WOMAN, LET HIM LIVE PERMANENTLY ALONE. Just my thought.
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#17401 - 12/14/05 09:26 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Sibambamahawu Ndunankulu Registered: 05/04/04 Posts: 805 Loc: KwaGodlwayo	Lento sengathi ithanda ukuba nzinyana bakwethu. Let me from the beginning state unequivocally clear that i am 100% against homosexuality, but i want to understand from the horse's mouth not from Ncomazi who supports it but says he is not gay, i want to hear from gays and lesbians the motive or the reasons that make them chose this line of sexuality. Is it biological or a choice of fashion? If it is a biological deformity then i will be inclined to lend an ear and try to understand, but if it is a matter of being wild and explorative then i am against this and will not condone it in whatever way.
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#17402 - 12/15/05 12:00 AM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mahlab'ayithwale Ndunankulu Registered: 11/21/05 Posts: 677 Loc: Emlindini Wesambane	I REALLY BELIEVE BAKHONA KHONALAPHA ABANJALO BUT SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO REASONS FOR INDULGING IN THIS INHUMANIC ACT,THEY HAVE NO FACTS TO DEFEND THEMSELVES COZ SOME OF THEM WANDTED 2 EXPERIMENT SOMETHING DEFFERENT FROM THEIR OWN NORMAL LIFE AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY FOUND IT SO FACINATING THAT THEY CANT EVEN IMAGINE THEMSELVES WITHOUT IT. KAYISIBUNANDI BESONO PHELA NDODA,KABEZE BAZOZIKHULUMELA BODWA SIZWE,AS LONG AS I LIVE I WILL VEHEMENTLY DISSAPROVE OF THIS DEMONIC RITUAL.
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#17403 - 12/15/05 01:25 AM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
zwide Ngqwele Registered: 02/01/05 Posts: 165 Loc: Lobengula	quote: Originally posted by Mahlaba'yithwale: I REALLY BELIEVE BAKHONA KHONALAPHA ABANJALO BUT SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO REASONS FOR INDULGING IN THIS INHUMANIC ACT,THEY HAVE NO FACTS TO DEFEND THEMSELVES COZ SOME OF THEM WANDTED 2 EXPERIMENT SOMETHING DEFFERENT FROM THEIR OWN NORMAL LIFE AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY FOUND IT SO FACINATING THAT THEY CANT EVEN IMAGINE THEMSELVES WITHOUT IT. KAYISIBUNANDI BESONO PHELA NDODA,KABEZE BAZOZIKHULUMELA BODWA SIZWE,AS LONG AS I LIVE I WILL VEHEMENTLY DISSAPROVE OF THIS DEMONIC RITUAL. Bekhona ....bengekho... do you think they will be able to bring themselves out here..... they will just shy away and we continue with the bashing ..... someone brought a very good thought..... that we should discuss it ..... and discussing it does not mean we approve of it... and knowing about it does not mean uyakuthanda.... sihlala in these parts of the worlds and siyakubona lets have a discussion about the whole thing.... maybe bazanceda basitshele ukuthi kwenzwani .... ......
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#17404 - 12/15/05 08:46 AM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Dokotela Nkosi Registered: 05/11/04 Posts: 1298 Loc: Emkhathini	Kumele izitabane zingaphiwa amalungelo oluntu. Ngilesifiso sokuthi uBaba uJesu aze ngokuphangisa azo bahlulela labo bantu abadlulwa yizinanakazana lenyamazana ngezenzo. Isihogo sibamelele, abaqhubeke ngokulahlela imihluzi yomzimba kuntuba yodede. yak!
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#17405 - 12/16/05 12:38 AM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
matshetshe Ngqwele Registered: 09/16/05 Posts: 115 Loc: bulawayo	ubuntu asifuni kokubili ukwenza ezothando emehleni absntu asikufuni ,worse still nxa liyizitabane asifuni vele lamhla lisensitha ubutabane asibufuni komthwakazi ,wena ke uthini ngabo lobubutabane sitshele wena uyabufuna kumbe uyabenyanya
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#17406 - 12/15/05 01:58 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
mninimuzi Nduna Registered: 08/12/05 Posts: 457 Loc: EMNQAMLEZWENI	Mina ngiyavolunteer nxa lingangipha izibhamu
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#17407 - 12/15/05 04:16 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
nomandebele Ngqwele Registered: 10/25/03 Posts: 150 Loc: uk	Sibamba.. i think vele akula za biologiccal deformity. Mina ngibona ingathi its cultural phela uyazi ekhay bakhona okuthiwa yizi tabane ngensitha kodwa in ALL MY YEARS .. BLIIVE ME MINENGI i have never actually met one.Yinto evele labantu asebehlale ngaphesheya kumbe abakholwa izinto abazibona kuTV.However i do not think shooting them is the answer .We are civilised people and should behave as such. So we know it will not be condoned in Zim despite the fact that Mugabe is this monster that has done loads of things to different people. Mina im not political and i think the very fabric of morality would be destroyed lathi singenza njenge goli.Its a choice that people make and if you consciously make a choice that goes against the morality of the society you live then you have to accept that people will desciminate against you.Im not for killing them though. They can come here and claim political asylum Tony doesnt mind!!!
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#17408 - 12/15/05 06:59 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Mahlab'ayithwale Ndunankulu Registered: 11/21/05 Posts: 677 Loc: Emlindini Wesambane	YA..SINGANDEBELE OQOTHO,NGIVUMELANA LANI MTHWAKAZI OMHLOPHE,PHANSI LOBUTABANE .
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#17409 - 12/15/05 07:59 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Nomangqika Ntandokazi Registered: 11/11/05 Posts: 416 Loc: lupane	mina ngivumelana lani lihlazo elibi kakhulu. unkulunkulu engathi wadala into emnandi kangaka abanye bathi bafuna intuba yodede asazi bakithi abake bezame. ukelvin kancube ngambona esefuqa ogogo esontweni yami ngambingelela ngamkhumbuza ukuthi mzwana esenza izigigaba zakhe erainbow hotel sasikhona thina onamangqika wadana kaphendukanga futhi hk hk lenhloni engelazo zokungena esontweni asazi.
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#17410 - 12/15/05 11:35 PM Re: UBUTABANE(GAY) SOBUSAMUKELWA KOMTHWAKAZI ?
Godlway'omnyama Ngqwele Registered: 12/03/05 Posts: 153 Loc: USA	yee yikho sibili dade nomangqika; labo bonke asebetshilo ngaphambilini; kodwa ngizwa besithi isithabane lesi senzelwimali, ngoba besithi ama research aqondisa ukubana laba abatholakala bekwenza le ekhaya bayabhadwalwa mhlolo, yikho naa..kanti maa kuyikho, kungenxa yani kudula kanti kulesikhala lesi esihle esadalwa ngumdali...omunye wake wabetha kahle lapha wathi, ake sizweni kulabo abakwenzayo ukuthi kanti kungenxa yani bon'odade belahlumhlubulo kangaka..kumnandi okwedlula lokhu?! haa bayanya lithi kukhona okunye ahhhh! Phansi lesithabane!..Phansi (kakhulu) lesithabane. HHayi wethu maa ukhona ukwenza...hatshi lawe ukhululekile ukusicathekela mhlawumbe singatshitsh'ingqondo..hk hk hk hk zihlekele zul'omhle.
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