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#1922 - 04/21/05 08:16 PM Re: COLONIALISM BY NURSING
Busobenyoka Offline
Ngqwele

Registered: 08/10/04
Posts: 163
Loc: Bulawayo
Mthwakazi,

Ngiyadumisa njalo bakwethu! Mihle imibono yenu.

Dade Mabila, angikweyisi ngokungakuphenduli directly. Nonetheless, ngiyabona ukuthi you are trying to mentally grapple ngodaba lolu. On a lighter note, ngikhonapha kanye esigodlweni sika Nkosi Mzilikazi, koBulawayo. But better still, to borrow from Bunandi Kill Me, ngisemhlabeni.

KuNkundla yonke, njengoba kulokungikhutha kancane, let us 'invert' the debate or pitch it at the hypothetical level sithi thina:

If, for whatever reason, all of those in exile and those joining them in exile were to be forced to become travel agents, would that be fine?

I would sure hope Mthwakazi ukuth this profession has no stigma attached to it as nursing seems to have invoked (and I dont understand why!)? I emphasize I chose this profession randomly.

Mayuyu bantwana beNkosi, spare me the gratuitous salvos of accusations over things I have not said nor even remotely suggested!

Buso

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#1923 - 04/22/05 01:37 AM Re: COLONIALISM BY NURSING
Mabila Offline
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Buso, Ngiyakuhawukela qotho nxa uko Ntuthu ziyathunqa! kuhle! Selizawotha umlilo wembawula lose lamazambane. Liyajabula lina.

Usilahlike ke Buso ngesihloko se thread yakho. Wenze sanakana ukuthi uqonde iNursing. Yikho ubone lempendulozikulandela zitsheke ngaleyo ndlela.I personally did not get the impression that the point you were making could be generalised to other professions. It sounded real specific to me.

The point is to make a survey of the skills that will be needed and then match the human resources development plan to those needs.

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#1924 - 04/22/05 05:54 AM Re: COLONIALISM BY NURSING
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i shall not speak [banghead]

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#1925 - 04/22/05 04:53 PM Re: COLONIALISM BY NURSING
Busobenyoka Offline
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Mabila,

NgikoNtuthu oqotho.

Amazambane lendlubu amangamabi, sidlile. Kodwa izibhoho mntakababa!!! Suka!

Interestingly, I'm a nurse........esGodlweni.

Asisebenze Mthwakazi

Buso

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#1926 - 04/22/05 06:06 PM Re: COLONIALISM BY NURSING
Mabila Offline
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Hawu?? hk hk hk ubusigubha Buso hk hk hk hk

Lilidlile ke ihlobo. liyajabula lina hk Isibhoho sekuyini ke Buso?

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#1927 - 04/23/05 12:00 AM Re: COLONIALISM BY NURSING
Mthoko Offline
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umangoye uyasola

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#1928 - 04/23/05 03:19 AM Re: COLONIALISM BY NURSING
Sibambamahawu Offline
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Mabila
Someone wrote the following article, i want you to guess where he writes from.

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Mthwakazi,

Ilandline yabo yile: 02075182000. Ifax ngu: 02075182010. Ngifonile ngaphendula ngundoda wesiShoneni.

Bathi base London ku 30 Upper Grosvenor Street, London.

AmaAccount Details ngiwaphiwe kodwa angizukuwaphanyeka
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Someone wrote the following article, i want you to guess where he writes from.

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#1929 - 04/23/05 03:35 AM Re: COLONIALISM BY NURSING
Mabila Offline
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Hk hk hk hk Hawu yebooooooooo! I see said the blindman hk hk hk hk

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#1930 - 04/23/05 01:37 PM Re: COLONIALISM BY NURSING
NTSHONTSHO Offline
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Registered: 01/08/05
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ABANTU BENGO NURSE BENJALO,INTO YONKE INGALUNGA UMA SINGABAMBANA SENZE INTO EKHANYAYO.LAPHA ENGIKHONA ABANTU ABAVELA EMAZWENI ATSHIYENEYO,NGOKUBAMBANA KUPHELA,BALAMA HALL ABO,IZIKOLO,TRUST FUNDS ABANYE SEBEZE BELAMA CHANNEL ABO KU TV.KUZATHATHA ISIKHATHI NGOBA ABAZENZA LOKHU SIKWENELISE NGABA NTWABETHU BONABA ASESEBANCANE NGOBA BONA BAZABA LALO ITHUBA LOKUKHETHA LOKHU ABAZAKWENZA BENGAKHULA NJALO SEBEQEQETSHILE.

BUSO UNGITHUMEZELE IMBAWULA.

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#1931 - 04/24/05 12:46 AM Re: COLONIALISM BY NURSING
Busobenyoka Offline
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Registered: 08/10/04
Posts: 163
Loc: Bulawayo
Mabila,

Isibhoho ngumoya onuka lokhu lokhu ekuseni nxa ubhodla. Sibangelwa yikudla ondlubu, omazambane, ondumba, amasi, imfe etc etc.

Sande enhlobo isibhoho.

Kodwa bengingagubhi dade; ngisemi khonaphana lapho engiqale khona ngodaba lolu.

Buso

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#1932 - 05/03/05 12:42 AM Re: COLONIALISM BY NURSING
zabalaza Offline
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Registered: 08/01/04
Posts: 6
Loc: britain
Mthwakazi, it is on one hand encouraging to witness fruitful debate and on the other it is disheartening when you notice how people fail to grasp a point, suggestion,statement or question.

Buso was simply pointing out that in view of the Mthwakazi Project is it a good idea that when this comes to realisation (the Project) having a pool of nurses at the expense of other professions will help the State.

Unfortunately all of us here are working with anecdotal evidence and there is no one so far who has brought out statistical evidence. Despite my avowed hatred for figures, I feel this would to inform the debate.

To support Buso, I do not feel that he was in any way belittling the nursing profession, however he was pointing out something that I have agonised over in my quiet reflective moments. As matter of fact I am a qualified nurse, who has since sought a different career. I have gone back to University and got another qualification. This is in support of the other person who raised a similar point earlier. If retraining is happening, then the argument falls away.

WOZA MTHWAKAZI
ZABALAZA '2005'

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#1933 - 07/28/06 04:53 PM Re: COLONIALISM BY NURSING
Mabila Offline
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Sebeqedile ke ngabo nensi. What next??

Zimbabwean nurses face uncertain future in UK


Zimbabwean nurses face uncertain future in UK
By Mduduzi Mathuthu
Last updated: 07/28/2006 09:52:35
ZIMBABWEAN healthcare workers in the United Kingdom face financial ruin and an uncertain future following new government directives.

The Home Office has announced that from August 14, general nurses would be removed from the Skills Shortage Occupations list.

The new moves will make it harder for nurses applying for work permits from Zimbabwe to succeed, and may now mean that nurses already working for the National Health Service (NHS) will find it harder to renew their work permits.

The changes are not aimed at Zimbabweans alone, but all "foreign-born nurses".

An immigration adviser said: "These changes will dramatically alter the way Britain recruits nurses, and many people will find it harder to get nursing jobs now. Those with work permits no longer have any guarantees they will be renewed when they expire."

The NHS has also twisted the knife on nursing agencies by forming its own in-house health employment agency -- NHS Professionals -- while cutting back on part-time staff.

The new changes also affect psychiatric nurses while only Band 7 or 8 NHS employees will remain untouched. These are mainly doctors and specialists in audiology, sleep/respiratory physiology, neurophysiology, cardiac physiology, operating theatre nursing, clinical radiology, pathology and critical care.

All work permit applications for UK entry received after August 14 for nursing posts other than the eight listed above will now be subjected to a "resident labour test", the Home Office said.

It said: "Employers will be required to submit evidence that posts have been advertised, with full details of those who applied and were interviewed, and why resident nationals were not considered suitable.

"Only when the resident labour test has been satisfied will consideration be given to issuing a work permit."

This week, the NHS began issuing notices, mainly to agency staff, informing them that their services were no longer required. The NHS says the move will save the health service billions of pounds as agency workers earned almost twice as the permanent staff.

Zimbabwe has been losing thousands of health professionals every year as they seek better working conditions in Europe, New Zealand, Australia and the United States.

Last year, the British Medical Association and the Royal College of Nursing petitioned G8 leaders to tackle the "poaching" of overseas healthcare workers.

UK doctors called for "ethical recruitment" and warned that Sub Saharan Africa's healthcare system had been crippled by the "brain drain".

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