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#20844 - 06/01/05 04:41 PM UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!!
Muntongenakudla Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/06/04
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Loc: Mtubatuba
Come one, come all followers of the sweet science sport of boxing!

Please don’t miss this one:
On Sunday, 5th June 2005, early morning before 3am, all roads lead to the MEN Arena, Manchester. A great fight is in store where, arguably the second POUND 4 POUND best boxer in the world (obviously behind my idol, PRETTY BOY FLOYD MAYWEATHER Jnr), Kosta Tszyu faces the GREAT ENGLISH HOPE, the overated, overprotected and cotton wool wrapped, Ricky Hatton.

What's your take on this one guys? Methinks Kosta, the 35yr old IBF champ will blast the 26yr old English chump, ‘Ricky Fatton’ inside 5 rounds.

Here’s expert opinion on the fight:
quote:
Clive Bernath (Editor in Chief SecondsOut)
I just cannot see Hatton beating Tszyu. Tszyu is just too good an all round fighter. Forget his age Tszyu is in tremendous condition. A 35 year-old Tszyu is I believe not only fitter than the 26 year-old Hatton but also faster and stronger. Tszyu is the consummate professional and I'm afraid Hatton is in for a rough night. I would love to be proved wrong but I see Tszyu slowly breaking a brave Hatton down for a late stoppage or points win.

Ant Evans (News and Content Editor, SecondsOut)
I don't think this is the straightforward blast-out for Tszyu that so many are expecting. Too much emphasis has been placed on the fact Eamonn Magee dropped and hurt Hatton three years ago. One knockdown - plus a couple of 'buzzes' here and there in fights with the likes of Ben Tackie - do not a brittle chin make. Is Tszyu chinny because he got stopped by Vince Phillips and was dropped twice by Diosbelys Hurtado? I see Hatton having success early on - the kid can box - but slowly Tszyu will find the range and force the Hitman to stand and trade. Proud and brave, I see Hatton finally falling around the ninth or tenth.

Patrick Kehoe (Contributing Editor, SecondsOut)
Ricky Hatton certainly has put in serious training for his fight with jr. welterweight world champion Kostya Tszyu; he's hungry, fighting at home and prepared wage a war of attrition to prevail. Genetics and craft are however, STILL, on the champion's side even at 35, having fought only once in eons. Tszyu is fit, focused, tactically mindful, defensively improved, while being a clinical power hitter with hall of fame experience. So, home court or not, it's gotta be Kostya by a knockout in the 10th.

Steve Farhood (Showtime and Boxing Monthly)
Unlike most of my American colleagues, I give Hatton half a chance. His energy will enable him, at least initially, to get inside and disrupt Tszyu's rhythm. But staying close, he'll negate many of the champion's advantages. Tszyu's experience and big right hand very well might eventually wear down Hatton, but until that point, Ricky will be more than competitive. The big concern: Will cuts again prove troublesome for Hatton? Tszyu on points.

Pat Brogan (British promoter, former fighter)
"Tszyu in five rounds. Ricky can fight but he'll hit fresh air with this guy. Thinking with my head, not my heart because Ricky's a great kid, I think it'll be over in four, five rounds. Ricky is 26 but he is more than 30, 32 in his body because he's abused his body between fights. He goes up to 12st 7lbs (175lbs) between fight and that will have aged him. Meanwhile, Tszyu has lived the life and is a young 35. Physically, Hatton could be as old as Tszyu and Tszyu is a much bigger puncher, a much better fighter and I think he won't be able to miss Ricky coming in."

Richard Williams (junior middleweight contender)
"Tszyu on points. He's too good for Ricky and will outbox him and maybe drop him. Ricky will put up a hell of a fight and can box too good to get stopped but he'll lose after 12 hard rounds."

Richard Poxon (Matchmaker and trainer, Clinton Woods)
It would be great for boxing in Britain if Hatton won but I just can't see it. I just can't see Hatton winning unless Tszyu gets old over night. Tszyu has a hell of a lot more experience at the top level whereas Ricky will be facing his first live genuinely world rated fighter. I go for a late stoppage or retirement.

Vivian Harris (WBA junior welterweight champion)
"I don't think Hatton has any chance. The guy is so lucky he's been protected in that place (the MEN Arena) for so long. A lot of fighters would kill to have the kind of sport - and entire country - behind them like Hatton has. But his fans can't fight the fight for him."

Miguel Cotto (WBO junior welterweight champion)
"It is a one-sided fight which Tszyu will win easily. Tszyu is too strong, it too experienced and punches too hard for Hatton, whose only chance is if he can take Tszyu's power. Tszyu has fought a higher calibre of opposition and should win in seven rounds."

Vince Phillips (only man to defeat Tszyu, lost to Hatton)
"Hatton is world class and there are plenty of top fighters he can beat, but not Kostya Tszyu. Tszyu just hits too hard."

Sam Soliman (IBF No.1 middleweight who spars Tszyu)
"I train hard but keeping up with Kostya has been hell! I wish Hatton luck but he won't win this fight."

Henry Foster (manager, Glen Johnson)
"I'm moderately impressed with Hatton but I'm very, very impressed with Tszyu. There's a chance this could be a blow out. Tszyu is so damn strong, I think he could steam roll Hatton. Hatton has to do something real special to get out of the first three rounds. I think Tszyu will stop him inside four or five."


Robert Waterman (Promoter, Fight Academy)
I believe Kostya Tszyu will stop Hatton in three rounds. I just think that Tszyu is a real pro and much more experienced than Hatton. Of course I'd like to see Hatton win as it would be great for British boxing and Tszyu could get old over night but I think Tszyu will just be too strong and apply too much pressure.

Diego Corrales (WBC/WBO lightweight champion)
"I think Hatton is a very exciting fight, great hear. I'm not convinced that he's got the experience or has fought the kind of guys he needs to have fought to prepare him for a professional life Tszyu, though."


Dennis Hobson (promoter, Fight Academy)
"If Tszyu is still ambitious and hasn't lost his edge he should win inside the distance."

Richie Woodhall (commentator, former WBC 168lbs champ)
"Hatton will push Tszyu all the way but will lose on cuts."

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#20845 - 06/01/05 05:53 PM Re: UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!!
Mthoko Offline
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Registered: 02/04/04
Posts: 238
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Mina lami iam a big fan of 'the sweet science' and i cant wait ukubona ukuthi ngubani ozanqindwa.
This one looks like its going to be a decent match kodwa i doubt if we are going to see fireworks.
I dont think it will go the distance though.

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#20846 - 06/01/05 06:10 PM Re: UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!!
Sgero Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 05/31/04
Posts: 642
Loc: United Kingdom
Mnto

Chris Eubank - silly little bugger who wants to be an English Aristocrat - akulalutho

Frank Bruno - ukewahlanya inyanga lezi ezidluleyo - akulalutho

Khan - yi fluke (uBaby Jake could have demolished the boy ekuseni)

Hatton - doti - akulalutho. Uzatshaywa vele.

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#20847 - 06/05/05 04:53 PM Re: UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!!
kaMjaji Offline
Nduna

Registered: 06/08/04
Posts: 329
Loc: ESkwakweni
Tszyu couldn't get up for the last round then?
Me thinks there is going to be a little bit of respect for Hatton here and around the world from now on!

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#20848 - 06/05/05 07:37 PM Re: UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!!
Mthoko Offline
Sikhulu

Registered: 02/04/04
Posts: 238
Loc: G Skweya P.O Box Loxion
Big-up Ricky Hatton, he's done us proud thina abe 'Land Of Mancunia' hk hk.
An oldboy like Tszyu cant take so much punishment.

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#20849 - 06/06/05 12:11 AM Re: UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!!
benmash Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 12/15/04
Posts: 23
Loc: canada
[clap] [clap] Congratulations Amhlophe to Ricky Hatton.I have always thought he is a great boxer uyazi.Im so happy he made it against the odds that book writers had given him.He is truly the,"Rib Catcher"for sure.He surely has a long way to go dont doubt it majita.

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#20850 - 06/06/05 03:49 AM Re: UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!!
Sgero Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 05/31/04
Posts: 642
Loc: United Kingdom
I have been made to eat humble pie. Hayi, ngiyavuma ulwile ukulwa okuhle u Hatton. I beret yami ngiyamethulela.

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#20851 - 06/06/05 01:02 PM Re: UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!!
kaMjaji Offline
Nduna

Registered: 06/08/04
Posts: 329
Loc: ESkwakweni
Sgero
You are fair game topi [clap] . Not many here come out and own up nxa bebhule kubi. Yikho ukuba lamasendlisi-sendlisi awe-leather sbali not i-plastiki. Kuyabukeka, keep it up.

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#20852 - 06/26/05 01:32 PM Re: UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!!
kaMjaji Offline
Nduna

Registered: 06/08/04
Posts: 329
Loc: ESkwakweni

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#20853 - 06/26/05 04:51 PM Re: UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!!
NTSHONTSHO Offline
Sikhulu

Registered: 01/08/05
Posts: 281
Loc: Montiriyali
YEYI YEYI ENGIKUBONE IZOLO,AKUKHULUNYWA.UXOLO IF THIS TOPIC WAS MEANT FOR UK FANS ONLY,BUT U MAYWEATHER UKARABHE U GATTI NGENDLELA EBUHLUNGU KABI.OKUHLEKISAYO YIKUTHI AMAPHEPHANDABA ALAPHA(MONTREAL)AWAKUBEKI KUHLE UKUBHULWA KWAKHE(GATTI IS ORIGINALLY FROM MONTREAL).

KULABO ABATHAKAZELELA I BOXING KAKHULU,LINGAKHUTHI MHLAKA 16 NTULIKAZI.U BERNARD HOPKINS UYABE ENQINDANA LO JERMAIN TAYLOR FOR THE UNDISPUTED MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE.

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#20854 - 06/26/05 05:13 PM Re: UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!!
Mthoko Offline
Sikhulu

Registered: 02/04/04
Posts: 238
Loc: G Skweya P.O Box Loxion
Madoda uMayweather kayenzi. Thats what you call a clinical perfomance. UGatti didnt even land a blow ekhanda.
U Ricky Hatton kalibonanga, he was a pundit ku SKY TV izolo and bathe bembuza ukuthi does he want to fight Mayweather after that ngabona ukuthi hes not even sure.
Mina personally i would prefer to see a MayweatherJR/Judah,Zab fight.

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#20855 - 03/06/06 11:33 AM Re: UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!!
kaMjaji Offline
Nduna

Registered: 06/08/04
Posts: 329
Loc: ESkwakweni
Another thorough beating bakwethu.
U Jeff Lacy was no match to Calzaghe for the entire fight

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#20856 - 03/06/06 02:44 PM Re: UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!!
iboyz Offline
Sakhamuzi

Registered: 10/24/02
Posts: 49
Loc: Tshikhago
u Lacy bamkatsile sibili. uCalzaghe ngangim'delela but hayi, uzamile. into yikuthi i-coverage yakhona ngapha eAmerica vele ayikho ngoba omunye wabo bamsothile, phela laba abavumi i-defeat.

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#35457 - 12/06/07 10:25 PM Re: UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!! [Re: Muntongenakudla]
Bhudaza Offline
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Registered: 11/09/02
Posts: 584
Loc: Byo, Mthwakazi

Is anyone prepared to call the one coming up this weekend?ie Floyd Mayweather v Ricky Hatton?

Mina ngizathula. Ngisuthi ngakho I don't want to eat humble pie!
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#35460 - 12/07/07 01:07 PM Re: UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!! [Re: Bhudaza]
Tsotsi_van_Toeka Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 11/07/07
Posts: 8
Loc: Mthwakazi
Frank Warren said it as best as it would turn out. There's no chance in hell that Floyd will lose to that fat, beer swirling English idiot who's more hype than skill. His style of hug & punch is disgusting. It borders on the illegal. He has virtually no defence - just plods forward & brawls without thinking. He's more of a madman in boxing gloves than anything else. Pretty Boy Floyd will school him big time. Floyd is Pound 4 Pound the best - and he'll prove it on this Vicky Fatton.

My prediction: Floyd will close his eyes & tear his face apart - just like he did to Arturro Gatti. The English idiot's corner will have no option but stop the fight. Floyd has promised to go toe to toe with this fat idiot. As such, it won't go the distance.

 Quote:
Frank Comments Of Ricky’s Chances


Mayweather Hatton: Warren Offers Some Frank Comments Of Ricky’s Chances



05.12.07 - By Andrew Wake: British boxing promoter Frank Warren believes that the only way his former fighter Ricky “The Hitman” Hatton can win Saturday’s big welterweight clash with Floyd “Pretty Boy” Mayweather is by taking to the fight to the undefeated American and trying to build up a considerable points lead in the early sessions.

“I hope for the sake of British boxing’s sake that Ricky wins, but he’s really up against it.” Warren said, in his column for tabloid newspaper The Sun. “Unless he jumps on him in the first three or four rounds and really dominates, he’ll find himself being out-boxed and completely out of the fight.”
“This isn't a contest that Hatton will come into late on - if he isn't on top by the sixth, he's in trouble.”

Warren, who fell out with Ricky after a promotional dispute two and a half years ago, also stated that he believes Floyd Mayweather to be the first world class fighter in his prime that “The Hitman” has faced and that his performances since he beat Russian/Aussie legend Kostya Tsyzu – fights that were all for world titles - have been substandard.

“Tszyu was always vulnerable against a fighter who could fight on the inside with a high work rate. He was made for Hatton.” He said. “That was probably Hatton's last really good showing, Ricky himself said prior to the Castillo fight his performances were well below par as he failed to look the part when he beat Juan Urango, Luis Collazo and Carlos Maussa.”

He added “While everyone is raving about his last win, over former world light-weight champion Jose Luis Castillo, he was a shot fighter (ie wayese bhulukile uCastillo). Hatton caught him with a great body shot, but Castillo definitely looked for a way out.”

As a parting shot Warren also commented on Hatton’s motives for taking this weekend’s contest, he said “The real reason he's stepping up? Because he's going to get paid big money, the same reason why he was prepared to walk away from promoter Dennis Hobson and allow De La Hoya's Golden Boy to promote the fight."



Roger Mayweather - Floyd's uncle & trainer summed it up nicely too in a conference call:
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GEORGE ROSENWASER: Hello, my question is actually for Roger First, I’m wondering if you saw 24/7 on Sunday?

ROGER MAYWEATHER: Yes.

GEORGE ROSENWASER: What do you think about the body bag, that large punching bag that Billy Graham uses with Ricky Hatton, do you think that will happen in the fight?

ROGER MAYWEATHER: I don’t care anything about that shit, because, you know, what punching bags don’t hit back. It don’t win fcuking fights. All of the rest of that shit don’t mean nothing. There ain’t never been a fight over there, that the greatest fighters in the world are from where I’m from, period. He ain’t nothing but another fighter. And like Ricky Hatton is very tough. He’s very tough. He’s going to come. He’s going to come. And we’re going to ask him for his ass, too. Give me that. You’ve got to worry about that. When he answer that door, somebody’s going to answer that door with a baseball bat, beat him across his fcuking head.
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#35470 - 12/09/07 10:09 PM Re: UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!! [Re: Tsotsi_van_Toeka ]
Bhudaza Offline
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Registered: 11/09/02
Posts: 584
Loc: Byo, Mthwakazi

A few people are eating humble pie again today, I am glad none of them are in this "august" forum.

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#35474 - 12/10/07 03:22 PM Re: UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!! [Re: kaMjaji]
Zwangendaba Offline
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Registered: 04/27/03
Posts: 1391
Loc: New York, New York, USA
Bafowethu.

Hk hk hk hk hk, KaMjaji, ISENDLISI le LEATHER topi? Hayi aghhh!
hk hk hk hk, lapho eli rabha khona, hayi aghhhh!

Li Zwangendaba.

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#35499 - 12/13/07 03:58 AM Re: UK BASED BOXING FANS: DON'T MISS IT!! [Re: Zwangendaba]
MTHIMBALI Offline
Ngqwele
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Registered: 03/26/04
Posts: 118
Loc: ENGLAND

umeyiwethar yintshantshu engabuzwayo.what a great fighter.i loved the way he controlled the fight.bayethe mfolosi,uyakwazi ukuthuza mfanekhaya.lol

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