Bengicela ukubuza bantu bakamlimu, ngicela amasuggestions enu. Ngilo Friend Wami siyahluphana lapha ngendaba yokugqoka. He is against me putting on trousers, ngombono wakhe kufanele ngigqoke izigqoko lamaskirts. Uthi nxa ngigqoke amabhulugwe akulamehluko laye. My argument is amakhaza ayanemba in this country thats why sigqoka amabhulugwe.

Kanti okubi ngawo kuyini bantu? Ukugqoka komuntu does it change ukuba nguye kwakhe na? i mean ukuthi kambe nxa ngigqoke ibhulugwe am i not still the same person ngigqoke iskirt? Uthi njalo unanzelela ukuthi loba kutshisa ngiyawagqoka, lami ngithi ye ngoba akhona amafitshane enzelwe khona ukutshisa. Ngitsho kanjalo ngoba mina angiboni cala ngokuwa gqoka.

Ncedani bantu zimbi indaba. Amaskirts akhona uthi they have to be long enough to cover my knees of which mina im against it ngoba ukugqoka njengo gogo mina ngisesemutsha. liyizwa njani lendaba bantu.

BongieD

Hayi indaba yakho izwakala inzima impela dade. Inzima impela ngoba kukhanya ingwenya yakho is a no-nonsense culturally straight fellow who tolerates no western influence or such contemporary hank-panky.

But wena-ke ungalahli imbeleko ngokufelwa dadewethu. Khonalapha eNkundleni kukhona ijaha lakwa Kortbroek uSkuvethe, umfana wama "mini-skirts" kunye labokabhudula, umfana wezikhindi, uMashotana , hayi angahle akusize dadewethu. Ngitsho phela mayelana lama bhurugwe okufanele uwagqoke. Angazi ke ukuthi isayizi izakufitha yini dadewethu? mhlawumbe kaligqokelani i same size. Kodwa ke hayi ngama shorts kunye lama "briefs" uzakuzama impela dadewethu. Phuthuma uhle umthayimele khona lapha eNkundleni.

Thina oLobengula njengamatraditionalists singahle sithi gqoka wona kanye amabhetshu uhambe amathanga aphandle kunye lomkhaba. Angazi ke ukuthi ingwenya yakho ingawathanda yini amabhetshu? Ma kusehlula lapho hayi ungahle uzame i over-all (wovarosi)yona imbala.

hk hk hk hk

Lobs uyangiqeda wethu

Bongie.

Dade indaba le oyitshoyo ijwayelekile kakhulu, ebantwini abakhulele kwelakithi. Njongeba usithi nguMngane wakho, ama compromises kumele alandele ubudlelwano elilabo. Nxa kuyikuthi ngumkakho, kumele ama tradeoffs abe manangi ngoba ubudlelwano benu buphezulu njalo seli nyamanye.

Angisoze ngiqale ngoku msola ujaha lowo ngoba ngisazi ukuthi imibono yakhe ivela ekuhloleni kwakhe. Ngizathi, mhlawumbe ubona lawo mabhulugwe engakufithi. Kuyafana lezinto ezinjengabo "makeup". Ngake ngazama ukucebisa omunye untombazana engangilobudlelwano laye ukuthi angaze afaka leyo "make-up" kakhulu aze acine engathi upendwe nge gloss-enamel. Wala wathi yena uzwa comfortable enjalo, waze wazizwela nge ndlebe zakhe sekukhulunywa nguzulu, ukuthi usa standari.

Angiboni ukuthi utshomi lowo ufuna ugqoke sasalukazi, ngoba akekho ujaha ofuna into enjalo. Ngibona angathi ujaha lowo isizatho sakhe sisekuthini ukubona kungcono ukuthi ugqoke ngendlela eveza ubulili bakho njengowesifazane.

Ulolwazi na ukuthi indlela ogqoke ngayo, iyathalela imizwa yukudonda lokucasuka kujaha, lasendabeni ze nsitha?

Kuqakathekile ukuthi ube le "degree of variability", umvumele kokunye, ngoba uthando luvuthwa ngokukhwezela dade, nguwena mniniyo.

Bongs

Ingwenya yakho most probable is practising the 'silly' mentality yokuthi 'it's nice nxa i mini ifakwe ngomunye umfazi, hatshi owami' Ungathola ukuthi lapho ehamba khona ize iphose inyele intamo ngokuthalaza ibuka abafake amabhurugwe lama shorts and decent minis (hey!! and bona ebahlala amabhurugwe, bantu!!)Abesesithi athi uyacabanga ukwakhiwa lokuma kwakho okumphambanisa ikhanda endlini, ahle athi, 'NO' angifuni abanye behambe bebuka.

Into ekhona la dade yikuthi lawe zama uku minimiza amabhurugwe. Mhlawumbe lawe vele usufaka amabhurugwe inyanga iziyephela, hk hk hk kumbe vele le wodirobhu yakho ileziketi ezimbili kuphela, wandisa amabhurugwe. Phithikeza, namuhla udle i short yakho kusasa udle i skirt sakho, Wednesday uthi asiyindawo baba sitshona endlini,ubenqunu, kusisa udle iLevis yakho ele boot-cut let top e light and loose.

Emtshadweni kule compromise, kuyamele lobabili lithole a middle ground endabeni yamabhurugwe. Kuleziketi ezinhle ezinde ezingathi zitshwabhene ezile low waist ezingene ku fashion lapha ko queen for summer. Leso vele ungasitshaya hk hk hk ubususithi le spaghetti top yakho ntse!!! umqobile ngiyakutshela.

Good luck kuwe.

S'gero Ngqongqoshe wezeNgotsha!

Hk hk hk Wena weNgotsha

ge has he married u or not

BongieD
Mhlawumbe ijaha lakho lilobukhwele. Akulantwembi ngokugqoka amabrugwe lama short skirts as long as eyi correct fitting.Okubi zimpahla ezi too tight

Bongie dade
Kwesinye isikhathi thina amajaha we lack iself-confidence and it should show in many ways, not just in case of ama-mini. Ngokubona kwami kukuwe ukuthi ukujulisise ukuthi yikho lokhu na and then its your call whether uyamceda omunye wakho kumbe uthatha isicebiso sika Lobs ngaphezulu.

On a lighter note:
Ngibona these days amaskirt lama-top amhlophe akufashion lapha ezweni. Mina ngile prosi zami zesipostanga ezifike izolo zivela kontuthu dade.
In your case, order any two and get iqiye yakhona free ntombehle.
PS
Offer ends ngolwesihlanu

BongieD

Njengoba ngitshilo ngaphezulu, njalo wabuye wagcizelela umfana we Summit (Sgero), bengikhuluma labodade balapha emsebenzini mayelana lengxubakaxaka yakho. Bonke bavele bathi vele wohle uyethenga i drop-waist ye viscose. Kuthi ngama weekends ugqoke yona i thererina, kanti nxa usiya e nkozweni uhle ugqoke i nsalu (ngitsho phela lona ilembu leZanu-PF leli elilompikitsha kaMgabe elithandwa ngogogo beSitshoneni)kunye le half top ye vest elamabala angathi ngawengwe. Hayi bathi ungenza njalo uzakuthanda impela umyeni wakho dadewethu.

Nxa ungawatholi ama vest ngapho phetshaya zama ngapha eGoli kodwa ke yilawa amhlophe alezikhalakhala ezincane. Kuthi ke ngapha ezinyaweni ubusufaka osebele abamnyama noma nje uthi kla isandak lako Bata, hayi suka madoda!!!!, nangumntwana sizani bantu!!!

ngiphendula my question ngutshele wat i think is the best soluthion

BUNANDI KILL ME

NOT YET GE, WHATS YOUR ADVICE.

Lobengula ngicela ukubuza nga kambe uya match-maker u BongieD lo Skuvethe na? Nxa ngiphambanisile ngiyaxolisa

Phendula phela Bunandi......

Ungabosibambisa imbokodo kanje

ZWANA NGUTSHELE GEEE YOU R STILLA GIRL SO KUMELE UGQOKE OKUFUNAYO ALUBA KUMBE SEKULOBOLILE THAT WEN U CAN THINK THE OTHER WAY. UNGAVUMI UMUNTU EKUNGCINDEZELA AAAA GEEEE KHONBAPHO U FIND UKUTHI SOMTIMES UYADLELA OCHERRY ABAGQOKE AMABHULUGWA SO WENA SEFUNUKUKWENZA ISALUKAZI NONONO NTOMBI AAAA.


UYAKWAZUKUTHINI HLALA LAYE PHANSI EXPLAIN UKUTHI WENA AKAKLULOBOLLANGA NJALO KUYAGODOLA LA SO KUMELE UGQOKE AMABHULUGWE.

AS 4 AMAMINI GEEEE PHAMBILI NGAWOOOO PHELA NGALE KUNEEDI FRESSH AIR. KUMELE FUTHI LEMBALA YAKHO IKE IZWE ILANGA SOMAMA UNGAVUMIII. TEL HIM TO BE CONSIDERATE

BongieD

Mhlawumbe uzama ukukutshela ukuthi amabhulugwa kawakufaneli ngendlela ome ngayo. Ufuna ubukeke kahle ngoku gqoka impahla ekufanelayo.

Cde Potshoza uyangiqeda wethu. hgk hk hk hk akwaziwa hk hk hk hk

BongieD

Hayi mina angisa understand kahle kahle indaba yebhurugwe lakho leli.

Umuntu lo uthi ibhurugwe ungaligqoki nxa ulala kumbe nxa uvakatsha? Pho nxa ethi wena ungagqoki ibhrugwe nxa ulala uyabe efuna ulale nje umapunapuna? Yena elakhe uyaligqoka kumbe hatshi?

Asazi njalo mhlawumbe lawe usuka ugqoke leli elizintambontambo abathi yi G-Street (String?)yena abesebona angathi awugqokanga. Inzima lendaba yakho dade, inzima impela mntanasekhaya. Kodwa ke zikhona ingcitshi zakwaMthwakazi lapha zizahle zikusize ntombendala.

Bongie

Negotiate! He has to understand that at times you need to expose those legs especially when it is hot!

Lobs

Hk hk hk I am getting concerned about your correspondence that is increasingly getting flavoured with some sexual disinhibition ideas. Pho usayithola? Uzabamba inyamazana ngiyakutshela! hk hk hk hk

DOKOTELA

QUOTE "ULOLWAZI NAUKUTHI INDLELA OGQOKE NGAYO, IYATHELELA IMIZWA KUYUNDODA LOKUCASUKA KUJAHA, LASENDABENI ZENSITHA"

ANGIKUZWISISI OKUBHALILEYO.CAN YOU ELLABORATE PLEASE.

LOBENGULA

NXA KUNZIMA NGEBHULUGWE DONT YOU THINK AMABHETSHU WOULD EVEN BE WORSE? UKUTHI NGINGAGQOKA IOVERALL KUTSHISA KANGAKA. I DONT THINK SO.

NGIKHULUMA NGAMATROUSERS NGOBA I G-STRING NGIYABE NGIYIGQOKE PHAKATHI SO ANGIBONI UKUTHI ENGABALENKINGA LAYO. NGIZOMTHOLA NJANI LO SKUVETHE WAKHO.

CDE POTSHOZA

KAMBE, NGINGAZI LAPHO, WHY ENGAPHUMELI EGCEKENI?

BUNANDI KILL ME

KUYEZWAKALA GE, NGIZOPHENDUKA NJALO KUNGABANZIMA S'HLOBO.

KAMJAJI

HA! SENGIGQOKE LEQHIYE UYAHLE ABALEKE.

u r welcome anytime

Can expert advice be given on account of a one-sided story enje? Kunganjani leyo'friend' (nxa kuyikuthi ngiyamthanda owami angingeze ngambiza so sarcastically) layo itsho ohlangothini lwayo? Asazi njalo kumbe kuzathiwa sesibophela izayeke emilonyeni yabanye yini?

Bongie,

Ngizaqala ngoku gcizelela ukuthi ujaha wakho kulesizatho ezenza afise ukuthi ungawagqoki lawo mabhulugwe. Ngibona angathi, impahla iyangokuthi ikufitha njani. Lowo oyingalani, ufithwa ngenye imihlobo yempahla kuthi o "Onion-Shape" labo ngezinye.

Kuyafana lakithi emajaheni. Omalambabedlile abafithwa ngama masli-thophu, kodwa thina iNginga singayiqgoka kuya vaya. Kuthi ke Isports-style ifitha bona omalamba bedlile, uhle abe yiModel umuntu wakhona. Ungasichazela dade wena ukuthi isimo sakho simuni.

Into ebengiyitsho ngaphezulu, yikuthi indlela ogqoke ngayo ilakho ukwenza ukuthi ujaha angatholi amadlabuzane okuthi atholakale esehlukanisa imihluzi yomzimba lawe. Ngama fitshane, indlela ozibeka ngayo yi ngqungquthela ekuvuseni imizwa kusithandwa sakho. Nxa umthanda kumele libe le "point of agreement" ngoba amacebo la esikupha wona angeke akuncede. Nguwena ozaxabana lowanga kwakho.

Zama ithererina leyo etshiwoyo, uzabona umehluko.

Dok

abakhiwe njengembodlela ye Coca Cola ke, sbali hk hk

BongieD

In your very first post above, uthi wena:

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My argument is amakhaza ayanemba in this country thats why sigqoka amabhulugwe.

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Are you telling us dadewethu that if bekungasimakhaza anembayo in that country ngabe lona ibhrugwe awuligqoki? Hmmmmnnn hayi lapho ke lingahle lixabane lomuntu wakho ngempela. Ma uyintombi ungasagqokanga ibhrugwe again it doesn't sound good at all.

Asazi njalo ngoba nowadays inkonjwa kunye lezigwadi zalapha ekhaya ziyatsho ukuthi amantombazana alisawagqoki wona amabhrugwe lawa.

Zimbi ngempela indaba BongieD, kodwa njengomuntu ohlala lapho kungekho makhaza khona and osisi abagqoka khona iziketi nsukuzonke, ngeke ngikhomente nge mpilo yalapho okhona.

Kodwa kengibuze. ULobengula ngabe usehluleka uk'hlukanisa iphenti le bhulugwe? BongieD i don't think ukhuluma nge phenti la kumbe njalo yilo?

Kodwa ngizavala ngokuthi ibhulugwe (not i phenti)ladalelwa amadoda hhayi omama. Ak'hlale ku so.

umuntu has to dress anything as long as umzwangedwa wakhe umtshela ukuthi urayithi. coz people alwayz talk and u cant please everybody everytime yo self first ge

Nkosi

yi waphi amabhurugwe othanda ukuthi bangawagqoki omama?

Saduva

You are bringing another dramatic twist to indaba ka BongieD.
Kanti nxa kuthiwa "BongieD was wearing a pair of black pants", kuyabe kuthiwani? Kuyabe kuthiwa she was wearing "iphenti" elimnyama kumbe njalo "ibhrugwe" elimnyama?

Kanti the word "pant" is it not the one that gives birth to i"phenti"?

Phela thina lapha besikhuluma nge bhrugwe as derived from its Afrikaans equivalent of "broek" as also applied to our Skuvethe who is better known as "Kortbroek"(Shortbroek)

Hayi indaba ye bhrugwe/pant is becoming complicated and I think by now even BongieD does not know whether she was wearing i bhrugwe or pant or whether she was naked when umuntu wakhe was bleating and mooeing about this enigmatic broek that has caused so much controverse in this forum.

Maybe BongieD must tell us which bhrugwe she is talking about: is she talking about a a trousers, short or pant. If she is talking about i "phenti", how different is that phenti from a "pair of pants".
From the above it might happen that this guy was complaining because BongieD was wearing her pants when she goes to bed , while the guy wanted her to go to bed emapunapuna after all!!! Asazi njalo, inzima lindaba, inzima impela.

...ustralian]] and [[American English]], the term '''pants''' refers to a long outer garment worn over the h...

In British English, the term pants refers to men's underpants

Panties: Undergarments, also called underwear or sometimes intimate clothing, are clothes worn next to the skin, usually under other clothes.

nxa uqhubekela phambili ithi: Undergarments are often used for modesty or erotic display; sometimes both of these motivations are simultaneously present

www.wordiq.com

Sesilinde uBongieD ukuthi akhethe i term ayisebenzisayo, Nkosi

Kulengoma ehlala ikhala kulesi isigungu ethi: 'We makot' uvez' iphenti na?'! Is this song referring to isiketi ezincinyana eziveza amapenti imihla lemihla, ikakhulu ngapha kwelikaQueen sekutshisa sekunje? Kulezi insuku sizabulawa ngamehlo ngenxa yamapenti!

Cde Potshoza the controversial one, uthi afake umpulling kumbe lokhuyana esasizazi kuthiwa ngama leg-wormers angafaka lokho ke abesekhipha iqhiye afake imonkey face uyezwa ukhudumala.

Sgero (mfana weSummit)

Uthi wena:

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In British English, the term pants refers to men's underpants

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Now it turns out that umuntu kaBongieD was right to complain ngoba it is clear that udadewethu uBongieD ubegqoka ama "underpants" amadoda as reflected above.
It is clear that BongieD is writing from the UK and therefore the British definition would apply as quoted above in British English.

Wena in your opinion dade, do you think that umuntu wakho bekufanele akuyekele ugqoka ama "underpant" amadoda? Is that what women's rights is all about?

LOBENGULA

MINA LAWE KUKHANYA ASIZWISANANGA NGALINDABA YAMI, KODWA LETOPIC YAMI ISOBALA NJE "WHATS WRONG WITH MY TROUSERS" yIKHO NGIZENGATHI UFRIEND WAMI UTHI YENA NXA NGIGQOKE ITROUSERS AKULAMAHLUKO LAYE.

NGABE KASIMAKHAZA SIBILI NGABE NGIYAZIGQOKELA AMASKIRTS AMI 24/7.

SADUVA

ULOBENGULA LAMI USENGIPHICA SIBILI USESUKE WAZICABANGELA OKUNYE ANGAZI KUMBE IBALA ELITHI TROUSERS LITSHO OKUNYE. UZAPHENDULA.

ANGALI NJALO UKUTHI AMATROUSERS NGAWAMADODA KODWA NGENXA YOMUMO WOMKHATHI LA ESIKHONA LAWETHU OMAMA AKHONA, KAMBE SENGINGAFA MGOMQANDO BAKITHI. ISNOW SONKE SIPHELELE PHEZULU KWAMI NGIGQOKE ISKIRT.

CDE POTSHOZA

LAWO AWEWOOL OSUKHULUMA NGAWO HAYI, ABANTWANA BESIKOLO BAGQOKENI PHO.IM SURE UKUTHI AYAKHUDUMALA BUT NGAWABANTWANA LABOGOGO.

Kanti bantu bemazweni isino senu leso sikhetha abagqoke izidwaba kuphela? Kambe leso sino sesaguquka okungakanani kwesakudala ngama1900 lapha amabhulugwe lawo abengakabi yisihloko sempikiswano esizizwa lamuhla? Ngizwe kuhle apho uthi wena ngesikhathi sokutshisa lakho kulamabhulugwe ovele usuzimisele ukuthi thando kumbe kwaliwa wena uzobe uphakathi kwawo? Therefore akudingeki ukuthi sichithe isikhathi abanye size sixhophane sithi sihlaziya uhlupho kukanti wena uzenzela intando yakho. Qhubeka ngentandoyakho utshayise umntanomuntu ngomoya.

BongieD

Hayi ngivumelana lawe dade, I think what caused the confusion is the contradicting definitions as illustrated by Sgero above.

For example, in the beginning, if you read your own post uzathola ukuthi ubhale wathi:

quote:

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nxa ngigqoke amabhulugwe akulamehluko laye

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Kodwa ke in your last post above uthi wena:

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UFRIEND WAMI UTHI YENA NXA NGIGQOKE ITROUSERS AKULAMAHLUKO LAYE

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If you read Sgero's illustrative definitions above, you will note that there are significant differences between "trousers", "pants" depending on whether or not you are in America, UK or Australia. If you are in South Africa the situation takes another twist again because here the word "broek" (bhrugwe) means both pant (phenti) or trousers. So as you can see, that is where the confusion arises.

NOMAKANJANI

KAMBE NXA BENGIZENZELA OKWAMI BENGIZAZI HLUPHELANI NGIBUZA. ANGIBONI UKUTHI NGIPHAMBANISE NGAPHI I WAS ASKING FOR YOUR VIEWS, KODWA BAZANGINCEDA ABAFISAYO IM SURE UBONILE EZINYE IMPENDULO, UMA UBONA ANGANI NGIKUCHITHELA ISIKHATHI UNGAZIHLUPHI, THANX FOR YOURPOINT OF VIEW ANYWAY.