Bafowethu

With the situation in Mthwakazi now, is it not better to take our kids just up to grade 6, that is when they can calculate, add, subtract, multiply and divide? After all thats all one needs to able to change forex in the streets, well besides a Scientific calculator and a mobile phone!!!!

It is so very sad. Imagine, just imagine where the shona's are taking these things. They are crazy. There is definetly no need for a nuclear physicist in Zimbabwe.

Sbali,

I understand your genuine frustration with the raw deal our people (children) face in the z-country. However, you should remember that all Ndebs generally look beyond the Zm borders for job opportunities because as you rightfully said in your post above, there is basically nothing for them in that hell-hole country. Now if you limit their educational levels to Grade 6 (at least iam a Grade 7) do you seriously think that they will cope in the unforgiving cut-throat competition of the capitalist western countries where specialist job skills are required in the financial industry, computer industry,medical professions where properly trained nurses and doctors are needed. Once we limit them (our kids) to Grade 6 (as per your view), won't we be the same people to cry foul when we find them perpetually working under Shona management even abroad where the playing fields are supposedly level. I hereby condemn such a view with the contempt it deserves. Our people have earned a reputation for stoicism. They are tenacious, incorruptible,noble , balembeko lomthetho, njalo bazingwazi ezesabekayo kwezempi. To say that such a proud people should be reduced to a bunch of black market racketeers under cloak of religious garb is an insult to this royal tribe. Abantu bakithi bayazifundela ngendlela zabo ezitshiyeneyo njalo they want to earn an honest living thru their toiling and sweat, thru their brains and brawn. They do not want to be shamelessly corrupt fortune seekers who are ready to descend on anything of value like those damned zanu thugs who have drained the country dry like hay.

Bafowethu.

Let us take our children to the highest level that they can achieve. At least to those parents who can afford it.

Aku nsuku zatshwala bobaba labo mame.

What we theorize here, our children are going to put into practice. Who ever thought that within a thousand years Smith would be dislodged from power??? So shall it be with the Foreign dominance in Mthwakazi. Thina siyakhuluma, Kwatsho umfoka Mdluli u Albert Nyathi, Kodwa abantwabethu bazalithatha.

Asibafundiseni abasakhulayo. Sibatshiyeleni ilifa abangasoze balihluthunyelwe langubani.

From education comes wisdom and defeat of fear. From freedom of fear comes victory. If our ancestors were our roots, then let us be the stem that naurishes the branches that bear the fruit that maintains the existance of our people.

I love my country uMthwakazi.

Li Zwangendaba.

awu!! suka lapha wena sibali yindaba ufuna ukusifakela amehlo so. The world doesn't revolve around Zimbabwe. Who are your kids going to compete with nge grade 6 yabo?? right now this topic is being pasted everywhere kuma forums abesishoneni to show how the "thickheaded" ndebele don't like school. Please bantu this is the 21st century and let us thrive to be better people, economically, scholarly,technically and financially. Education is the key where ever you go, and i find your suggestions very absurd. If all our kids end up selling forex in the streets who is going to be the engineer?? who is going to be the quantity surveyor?? who is going to be the teacher, who is going to be the nurse, doctor, driver, plumber, carpenter, manager, accountant, bus driver, soldier. Sometimes we are our own worst enemy and please people lets stop embarassing ourselves like this. Let us seek to arm ourselves with knowledge. Please mandebele lingasiyangisi ngezinto ezinje mani awu!! yindaba lidabula umoya wami kanje???

Oh!!! lafa elihle!

sbali..

uyahlanya i tell you,honestly speaking how do you think grade 6 will help our kids.we are grow in a very competive world that even 'A' levels are not being considered as before.This is not the time when one can be a teacher with form 2 like kudala,gone are those days and you want to be talking about grade 6 in this day and age..you are lost!someone please help him..

Bafo/Bafokazi

Ngiyalizwa, actually I "overstand" you. Out of argument I know a boy born in Ntumbane, 20 years old now, owns two houses, went up to grade 5, can calculate, owns three posh cars, owns two businesses and employees some of our UZ graduates, will soon be married, is a non smoker, is a non drinker of alcohol..... honestly I think tis young man has a life some of us hidden emazweni cant even afford. Guess what he does????

and still this boy will need a bank manager, an accountant to audit his books, he'll need to use the bathroom after having a healthy feast, and some one has to see that there is a working sewage. He'll also need to have the roads maintaned on which to drive his posh cars, street lights, ama tower light, you name it. If you are encouraging people to look just beyond education well that is understandable, but ukuthi leave school altogether is unacceptable ntanga. ngeke kulunge lapho. honestly you don't expect the boy to do all these things by merely being a millionaire. that is my arguement sbali.

Q.Without, education what is man?

A.Is a reasoning savage and a splendid slave in his own teritory.

"An unschooled mind is a deep, dark, drairy and desolate carven but, put a torch of knowledge in it and see the transition."

stolen from Shakespear's Blessings of Education

the point is, education is the key madoda. bakhona abambalwa abenelisileyo ngemfundo engatsho lutho. kodwa lapha sikhangele isizwe madoda uma singagcwalisa ama-dunsi ilizwe lonke lingabonimihlolo le$50k yama-warvets kamgabe ingasalaphansi. lazibonela bakwethu ukuthi izagqibe zamawarvets akithi zenzani,sabunatha sabuchitha sahayelwa o-rix lama-skyline tax sisiya eTsholotsho those were typical consequencies of an ignorant mass.zanu pf killers are not ignoramuses, we are dealing with educated TWAs[third world assasins]. they employed the de-educate philosophy long time ago.thus we are now facing an uphill task of liberating the minds of our people.

we are bracing for autonomy within a federal framework,it will take at least a century to achieve, when all this shonalised generation has gone.some of us believe even the air we breath comes from mugabe whose name is tantanmount to gvt in Mat'land. we have to educate our people even to march them into armed struggle they have to be extracted from that hellhole so that they understand why they have to fight.

the so called western democracies and european first worlds took giant steps called educational revolutions and education for all to liberate their people from ignorance which is worse than death.ignorance is a perpetual foe, a deadly scourge , an ertanal epidemic, a curse to a people and an eternal condemnation.

today it's easy for a predominantely english speaking country like canada to re-vote a hard core L1 FRENCH speaking JEAN CHRETIEN into office. simple because the larger population chunk is educated. the African draconians with their father evil robert, perpetuate their rein of terror thru making every citizen, minorities in particular, morons.

personally, i'll rather marry an ugly educated woman than a beautiful imbecile.

WITHOUT EDUCATION, WHAT IS MAN?

Nobhuthsuzwayo (Am keen to know what your name means)

That is ipoint yami lapho. I know maybe I sounded like a silly sod in the beginning, but the thats my way of getting Ndebeles talking, uqale ingathi uyathethisa!!!

My point is lets start to look beyond education for our newer generation. Most parents are spending millions taking kids to boarding schools which they dispise.

Most successful Mthwakazians, although schooled, are using their talents to earn a living. A few examples are:- Peter Ndlovu, Cont Mhlanga, Albert Nyathi, Felix Moyo, Mthandazo Ndema (late) the list is long.....

Lets encourage our kids to start thinking sports, arts, music, dance, theatre, sculptor, rafts etc.

Nation building should start now, otherwise we will still hire the short sleeves to come and run our tings when we finally get Uhuru!!

Get my point???

nobhutshuzwayo is zulu for inguqu(football).

Honestly mina i'm not against exploiting talent, but education i'll emphasize over sport. Sport is not that lucrative in Zimbabwe. you stand to make a lot of money if you go overseas, and how many people from southern africa get that chance?? If a kid doesn't have any chance of making it in school, well then fine. But uhlupho yikuthi sports is something you have to do from a tender age. so there's nothing like let me finish my degree and then play soccer. so inzima indaba. which ever way i'll always encourage my kids to go to school.

Football

What a bizo. Even igama lakho liyatsho!! A good start would be to encourage successful people as mentioned before to open Kindergarten schools of arts, sports, especially nobhutshuzwayo, crafts etc. Allow abantwabethu to appreciate and maybe start studying these, hoping to develop a tetiary oriented society.

But the, we still need izikwicamfundo labo "xchange money" or to be politically correct, we need a strong "parallel market" workforce.

Siyabonga, asikhulumeni sitshintsha imali. Abanye lingabe lisiphatheleni?

Sbali, the careers u talk about (sports, art etc) are more oportunistic. u cannot guarantee a child a future ngokumfundisa ibhola. while i agree ukuthi u cant be guaranteed a job by being an engineer, i think ukuthi u're guaranteed a certain standard of living.

another thing is u still need to give children a strong educational background so that they can know how to wisely sign contracts etc. Who is Peter Ndlovu's manager? litshona. Over the past yr, peter got countless awards, since he's not in zim, his manager was collecting them for him, making speeches in shona. Peter has the talent but what's the manager leaving on? If we had more educated pple koBulawayo, maybe imali kapeter ngabe idliwa ekhaya...

inzima lindaba madoda,mina personal i think this issue is 50/50
the ball can roll eaither way,i think it all depends on the person's ability to achieve wat he/she wants,ngoba in life siyazi ukuthi sonke siphumelela in different ways,abanye sizaphumelela ngesikolo ,abanye sizaphumelela ngezimidlalo ,abanye ngobu sela.
kulabanye abantu vele abangakwanisiyo ukudlala any sport,so bona they will concetrate in skool kakhulu coz they know there is no other alternative kibo,then on the other hand kulabanye abaphiwayo kuma sports kodwa bancitshwa esikolo so they will do wat is best for them labo ukuze bephile.
kuhle sibili ukuthi nxa uyi average person uzame konke koyi 2 then ubone ukuthi ukuzakuvuma ngcono yikuphi.
NGAKHO MINA NGITHI LESS JUSS BE POSITIVE IN WAT EVER WE DO,SCHOOL OR SPORTS ngoba u will never know wat will work good for u kusasa.

Linjani bakithi

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Kungaba yinto ejabulisayo, nxa singabona impumelelo kwabanye bethu.