It is sad that some Ndebele guys who leave home with the intentions of going to school soon give up on that dream in North America. Sesizwile ngani bantu. Akelibuyele esikolo. Liyayangisa maNdevana. lingawasola amatshona uma esithi mandewere abafundanga?? Akelifunde zinsizwa. qeqeshani yikhona odade basekhaya bezabalekusasa enhle. who can blame our sisters if they look to shona men who are educated and have a secure future?? To those who have advanced their education, ngilitshayela ihlombe. inhlonipho kini lonke. qhubekani ngemfundo. education is power.

ah yeyi madoda kunzima.....

Nobhutshuzwayo!

Ngiyala Sisi! Akula future le security etshoneni. Asikhuthazeni imfundo kwelakithi yebo ngiyavuma, kodwa ukuthi sibakhetha abesitshoneni ngenxa yemfundo yabo and security for the future, ngiyala mama.

Sekukangaki sifunda ngabodade bebuyiselwa ngochuku kibo kumbe bebulawa ivitori loba izezuru selivuke okwalo abantwana bengasazi isivitori bekhuliswe ngesikhiwa ngumama ongasaziyo isivitori. Kuyakhulumeka lebadaleni ukukhahlamezwa ngowakini. Angitsho ukuthi abakithi abasiphoxi hatshi, labo zimbongolo sibili bangathanda; but given the choice ngingangcono sibili ngilahlwe ngowakithi.

Asikhumbuleni njalo ukuthi yiUZ for a long time yiyo yodwa ebibhonga nge higher education laphana koMgodoyi. The few Ndebele girls akade befika lapho at a very impressionable age too; bebekhangwa yibunganyanganya be Halale bathatheke ngezimota zama tshona sebesehlukana lamajaha abo abavele lawo ekhaya. Asekeleni ukuthatheka lathi singabona imota eziyi yellow, iyembe eluhlaza, i tie eyi purple lamasokisi abomvu! This is a deliberate strategy to go after Ndebele beautiful girls. They still do the same ngase Mpilo ema nesini. Liqaphele bangalilandeli langaphetsheya kwelizwe. The late Dr Herbert Ushewonkunze wayeyikhuthalele lento. These are traps....asiqhapheleni!

Education plays a role in our selection of life partners but should not be THE DETERMINING factor. UBUNTU should be the priority for both male and female. It is unfortunate that ekhaya the disparity in terms of income between the educated and the non-educated is too wide. In societies where the gap is narrrower, choices also increase. Bengingazitholela nje uMdawini othengisa ko OK sihlale sibili sakhe.

mabila

l will differ slightly with your above contribution about the crucial importance of ukuzithuthukisa kweze mfundo.

l need not overemphasize the unfair advantages that the shona educational institutions have over our own facilities in lupane etc, consenquently pupils from masonaland have always excelled than our own due to the unfair disparities in resource allocation

this will always result in the educated shonas have a good start in life and naturally my daughters and sisters will invariably find themselves attracted to the other gentleman who appears materially established,

mabila dade, we might expend tonnes of our precious ink insulting the shona and calling them names of green intestined creatures but such name calling does not in any way improve our status quo to challenge the shonas in all spheres of life.whilst l abhore the use of material wealth as a yardstick to measure the relative wealthness of an individual, but even in our historical mthakazi the number of cattl;e that a man had determined the level of respect accorded to him by the society.

whilst it bothers me greatly to see most of ouor mthwakazi girls in UZ AND NUST courting the shona guys,but this is a fact of life givern the population ratios in zimbabwe inter marriages will always remain a feature of our society , the best we can do in these inevitable circumstances is to arm our children with the arsenal to withstand any marital problems in their new marriages with shona. to hope that we can influnce people to whom they can associate with, we will be guilty of a very grave crime and neither will our efforts bring the ldesired result

Another issue which irks me a lot is , you guys you give your selves the royal prerogative to cherry pick whom you want to court , but on the other hand you frown on our girls who also exercice the same right.most of Mthwakazian guys have been forced into economic exile in egoli this leaves a vacuum which is gladly seized by the shona people

l also find it a little bit unpalatable that, some of our mthwakazi girls are so stupid to be impregnanted by the shona guys as some of the participants in this forum will make us believe. l take great exception to this frivolous allegation of ndebele girls being foolishly oblivious to the so called shona crusade to derail their educational success by giving them bastard children.this is an insult to our mthwakazi girls.

mthwakazi they are very few families in this day and age who do not have sons and daughters in law from the other side of the divide.

the racist regime in SA even went to the extent of legislating against fraternisation between different racial groups, this never suceeded in stopping the fraternisation.

l strongly and unreservedly believe in every individual being allowed to exercice his or her inalianable right of freedom of association.the best we can do mabila dade, is to empower our chidren with the ability to choose between right and wrong

saduva

working in harare does noy in any way cloud my judgement in stating the very obvious issues

like l said, much as it causes a great deal of discomfort to me to note an increasing number of our daughters have tied the knot with the shonas,lt is a fact of matter that they are getting married to the shonas in their thousands.
lt will be naive for us to have an ostrich mentality and pretend this scenario does not exist.l believe it will be folly on us as mthwakazians to be blind and please each other on the forum by saying words to please each other whilst ignoring the very facts. we should not delight in confining ourselves into false comfort zones.

The only effective remedy to any predicament is to first acknowledge its esistence and then soberly prescribe the proper panacea to the ailment,

our wishes and desires are a complete different thing to the very every day reality we live in.

lam not ashamed to ruffle some feathers in the name of truth.

Inina

Mahwa chini Khazi? Isu tahwa. Huba latibulaya!

My first contribution on this thread was much against Nobhutshuzwayo's assertion that abantwabethu bendele ematshoneni ngoba our own Ndebele brothers abafuni ukufunda. That is the whole conspiracy gimmick that our girls and most of us are oblivious to and that makes me mad. We should never give in to that. Let us work hard and find ways of getting our own boys and girls to find each other for better or worse. The war has to be fought on all fronts and we all must play our part in building Mthwakazi.

Lani bafowabo akeleke ukuthatha eminye imihlobo lakhe isizwe! As long as Ndebele women are in those homes, isizwe lolimi luyakhula. How can abafazi bezizweni build your homes in the culturally correct way? Umama ngumuzi....

Umendo kawuthunyelwa gundwane sibili and love is blind. Now that we know what we know about the Grand Plan, LOVE HAD BETTER SEE AND SEEK ASSISTANCE FROM THE BRAIN above and know ukuthi egundwaneni kakuyiwa. We cannot give in at this stage of the fight and prepare our children to survive tshona marriages and relationships without first trying to work out strategies of promoting Mthwakazi marriages!How do we know which one is genuine? As we write, amatshona are busy kubo Cape Town Durban tshonalising the whole of Southern Africa! They may ba the majority tribe komGodoyi but a minority in the region they are.

Amatshona who are marrying Ndebele bathi thina we are cheap to lobola. They cannot afford to play the exhorbitant payments demanded by fellow tshona families. Not only does the definition of cheap end there! We are also easy to get!

I was waiting for a physiology viva one year at UZ when this Professor started making moves at me 30 minutes before my viva. I was actually in the waiting room. Vivas are very very stressful and he wanted to take advantage of me at my weakest moment. When I threatened to scream rape! his exact words were "uri mundevere akaita sei anoramba". How can we carry on ignoring these crazy assertions about us. Let us say no as much as we can and pursue our brothers to improve our lot abantwabethu baye kwabakibo. We have these different languages and cultures not to destroy them but ot build them and save them for future generations.

We don't always make the chioce in these matter nor do our wishes carry the day, but my daughter will tell you ukuthi Umama wathi etshoneni HAYI!

It would be interesting to know whether this professor then sought to "punish" you 30 mins later, for spurning his advances.

Anyway, kengibuze bo dade. How many of you have actually discussed the GRAND PLAN and its related effects with Mthwakazian women, especially labo aba based inside Mgodoyiland? Can you please tell us what their view is.

Inina, if what you write lapha is also what you advise our young women in Halale to do, then I despair, ngidabuka inhliziyo ngawe dade/mama.

Akuqale emakhaya. Ngilabo dade abayi 4 and bonke bakhule besazi ukuthi itshabi ungalenzela konke kodwa ukuliphathaphatha(courtship)lokuli letha ekhaya (marriage)is out of the question. Noma sebelamba kanjani, ngake ngamuzwa omunye, exoxa labangani bakhe ethi ngcono adumele imbodlela ngokwayo kuloku lalana le tshabi.

PS: Inina, akudinge ingoma ethi "Yini Madoda" by Miriam Makeba &the Skylarks. Listen to it mama.

Saduva

The huy was punished.


I had him removed from my panel and the rest of the department got to know why.

Yikho okufunekayo lokho hatshi ukuthi itshabi lingathi woza umuntu ahambe egijima engani yi Ambulance isisiya Empilo.

Mabila what you did should be a lesson to all Ndebel ladies & girls i'm proud of you sister.

I really don't know why other nations manage to keep what is theirs to themselves. They love and marry each other. The people in mind are Asians, look at Indians in Zim and anywhere else in the world they usually marry each other.

Awu ngalitshona njani manene lamanenekazi? Sibambamahawu mfowethu, sizakhulisa kanjani usapho lwakithi njengoba thina esisemazweni sesifika sithathela izinto phezulu. Thina amajaha sesifuna unambitha eminye imihlobo (sisithi yikuphucuka) and get married to white and yellow women. Ngakwesinye isandla odade ba busy ngama Nagimbi uzwe umuntu ethi, 'hayi mina umfana wekhaya shame, angimfuni abala class...'

Abantwabethu now asisafuni bafunde eTsholotsho because of valid/unfounded reasons (depending on how you want to look at it from). They are now ischools that have a diverse student population. This is where they socialise and that is where their futures will be determined ukuthi who do they want to marry or get married to. Ngizakhulumani ngokuthi umntanami angezi leTshabi ekhaya mina sengithethe iNdiya? Asizinukeni amakhwapha thina kuqala.

ngiyalizwa majida labo majidasisi,isikolo siqakathekile sibili uktuhi sikukhaliphise inqondo but on the other hand it doesnt gaurentee u 101% ukuthi uzawuthola lowo msebenzi owufundelayo especailly these days,
phela singakhohlwa ukuthi life is about how u think and not how educated u are ,u can have 12 degrees and roam around the streets kuthi umuntu owacina ku form2 umbone ephumelela ngoba elengqondo ezikhaliphileyo ezigaya imali,look at wat mugabe is doing with his degrees ilizwe lingaphi manje??
Phela empilweni we all go to skool ukuze singaqeda ukufunda sibe lemsebenzi le mali but wat if the opportunity yokwenza imali comes before u finish skool??will u go for it or jusss let it go and say ngisaqeda isikolo??yikho abantu abamnyama siphuza ukuphumelela,amakhiwa are smart umtwana wabo by the age of 16 vele they wuld have identified ukuthi the best way for him/her to make money yilokhu,less loook khonapha overseas ,mmost universities are full of immigrants but bonwa amakhiwa acina kubo grade12 kumbe ema college kuphela
ezinye izinto lathi abantu abamnyama siyanzenzela,u will find umuntu omnyama he/she wins $10million ku LOTTO but umbone lokhe efuna ukufela esikolo kulokuthi ehle eqalise ama business le investment.phela no matter how much we can educated ekucineni esikufunayo yi mali ukuthi imali leyo uyithole njani akuqakathekanga as long as ulayo kuphela,phela akulanto ebuhlungu njengokuyasebenzela umuntu ongafundanga wena uzitshela ukuthi umfundile kodwa ekugijimisa
I'm not against ukufunda but thus how i see it from another side of the coin,isikolo siqakathekile sibili i admit but i chance yokwenza imali ingabuya why not go for it njengoba ekucineni ungaqeda isikolo uzathola yonaleyo mali futhi.

Mabila are you talking about one Musabayane guy in the physiology department or what ,uyazi this man was such a dog

u farmer uVengesayi

vengesa was also obsessed with touching and fondling girls ,but abanye ke babenefita coz bebona umlilo nge physiology.Tshela mina uphume ngawuphi umnyaka e varsity,sorry for asking

Bafowethu,

Mabila,

Special dedication kini abesimame ngoba unkulunkulu walinikeza isidleke sokufukamela umuntu.
http://www.w-cpc.org/fetal3.html


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Thrower Majikijela
One who sees the storm coming before the clouds appear
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Nguwe wedwa ma Thrower! Umama ngu MUZI!

Mabila,

Lakhathesi.


Thrower Majikijela

Loba ngivuma ukuthi imfundo iqakathekile, ngithanda ukuthi ngithi abanye babo dadewethu basuka babe yizi phofu. Ama first impressions etshona ahle amphambanise ikhanda.

Ngikhumbula omunye umafenda wema eriyeni, wavarisa impintshi yakhe elengqondo eyesintwini, eqeqetshileyo kundaba zemfundo. Ujaha lo wayalwa ngoba untombazana esehlangane letshona eli drayiva imota yomsebenzi, elingumakanika. Lahle laphanga la hlanyela ingcekeza yalo kulu ntombazana. Ngikhuluma, kunje untombazana uthwele umntwana wetshona - use bhonka, akasa ncanywa yimpintshi. Umakanika sowaya kibo khonale emuzungafungwe.

Into eqakathekileyo yimali, kulemfundo. As long as usenelisa ukwenza imali blayind lokuyi maneja, kusharp. Ungaba lama PHD angu 4 but utsheba ngomsobho kuphela. Asenzeni imali zihlobo.

Bakwethu!

Bangaki asebekebabona li website for individual funding yama scholarsip lokunye okutshiyeneyo?

www.fdncenter.org Zamani please. Abalenhlanhla labaqoqe kuhle ama proposal abo bangathola.

I would like to indicate that my above posting has been meant to contain some slight humor.

Ngiyakhuthaza sonke Mthwakazi ukuthi siqakathekise imfundo, ngoba iyasi phakamisa lendlela esihlela ngayo izinto empilweni zethu. Bathi 'ulwazi ngamandla', kumele sibe lawo amandla bakwethu ukuze senelise ukulondoloza usapho lwethu.

i agree that education is important but i would like to add that i also think that it is overated. by that i mean that it is not everybody indlela yakhe ezavulwa yi mfundo. if you think about it Bill Gates himself is a College drop out. so mina i urge parents to encourage their kids and support them in whatever other interests they have. mina ngkhula ngangisithi nxa ngisithi kumbe ngisaya dlala i bhora umama ehle engigame ngokuthi sengigijimisa amasports ngibale sikhathi bani? We need well rounded people not just educated. Much learning doth make you mad!