Bafowethu.

Lingixolele ma KIRISETU, angidingi kudunga amanzi. Ngisuke ngangena endlini yenu "IVANGELI" lapho likhuthazana khona.

Yikho ku Mthwakazi, ngicela kesi hluzeni lezi ndaba zoku Khonza, kumbe uli Moslem, Krisetu, Usesintwini, kumbe uzimele wedwa, asibonisaneni ukuthi kanti inkolo zethu zehlukene ngaphi, zihlangana ngaphi, njalo labo abathi okwabo yikho okuqondileyo, bakutsho ngaliphi.

Kayibe yingxoxo yokubonisana.

Kuyini uNkulu-Nkulu, u God, Idlozi, Idimoni, etc???

KADE SEZWA AMAQINISA EHLUKENEYO.

Li Zwangendaba.


EYAMI EYAKUQALA YILE.

I have read that JESUS is the son of GOD. And that on the day of his coronation, he will be sitting on the right hand of his father.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN: Is GOD getting old??? Will he die for his son to be corronated as the King??? In turn, who will succed JESUS??? Does he also have a son we know not of yet??? Will Jesus die for the second time or is he going to be the King for ever and ever.

The Bible does not answer these questions. I have three BIBLES in my house, "King James Version, American Standard Version, And the Roman Catholic one, with more books than the other two". Unfortunately Cannan Banana died before his own version of the Bible.

THINA ABOSIKO WE HAVE QUEST FOR REAL KNOWLEDGE.

MAKHOSI.

Li Zwangendaba.

Bafowethu.

Ikhanya inzima lendaba. Yinsinda baphenduli. Angisoze ngifunde lutho.

Li Zwangendaba.

Lezi zifuna abafundi bezokholo. Ngisitsho bona phela o Mullah, Pastor, Rabbi, etc

Zwangendaba,
Sengathi uyatsho ukuthi uphethe iKing James le NIV,Thola ithuba lokucela irevelation mayelana lemibuzo yakho,impedulo yayo ilotshiwe kulawo maBayibheli.
Rev.19:10 "The testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophesy".Study Revelation in the attitude that,until its pages have shown you Christ,you will forget about anti Christ.The book of revelation says a lot abaout the forces of evil,but always with reference to their conflict with the lord Jesus Christ and his saints who will overcome them and win the victory in the end.
In his early Ministry Jesus preached "the gospel of the kingdom"in the regions of the Jordan -Galilee,Judah,Samaria and Peria(Mtt.4:22,Luk.16:16)his ministry spanned about about 3yrs from AD26-30,HE WAS IN HIS EARLY 30S.
The Messiah ministry was authenticated by many miracles mostly healing of the sick.He spoke to large crowds in the country.He declared the kingdom of Heavens in the synagogues.At times his teachings about the Kingdom was in parables-simple stories of everyday life that illustrated,to receptive minds,the essential spiritual truths about the Kingdom of Heaven.
Jesus is the Lord,Son of God,The Price of Princes,he is the Alpha and Omega the biggining and the ending ,to understand him you have to understand how trinity works.
My brother I pray that you gain understanding regarding this Holy subject.

Peace be unto you!

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One who sees the storm coming before the clouds appear.
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Iqinisa elikhulu yikuthi lathi esizithi singama Kristu iqiniso eliyilo kasilazi. lolalo ucasisa Ivangeli ngendlela abona ngayo ......Sizashona khona ngasesi hogweni .......

Well said Siphepheli.

Bafowethu,

ONLY THE TRUTH SHALL SET US FREE

Kungani thina abantu iqiniso singathi siyesaba ukulikhuluma loba ukulamukela.
Ngitsho lona phela iqiniso elikhulu elilotshwe ebhayibelini.
Uma ungumkristu ibhayipheli lilesithembiso sakho sempilo enaphakade,njalo uma ungokasatani kulesithembiso sakho sokuya egeheni.
Uma ungumkristu ngeke uye esihogweni njalo ungagoqeli wonke umuntu ukuthi uzaya lapho wena ozaya khona.

On the 1st of April, people will be trying to make fools out of others. Thats just a bit of fun, But when one makes a fool of oneself, by disbelief in God, thats serious. This is the fool nobody can laugh at. Why is a person a fool not to believe in God?

The natural universe,the general knowledge of right and wrong,the history of the children of Israel,and Jesus himself,combine to lead anyone but a fool to believe in God,and in his scheme of redemption for life and everlasting through his son.

Lona iqiniso eBhayibhelini liyatsho ukuba ukwesaba uNkulunkulu yikuqala kokukhalipha komuntu.

Ngiyabonga.

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Bafowethu.

Lingazondi, ngoba kalisoze likhulume ngengqondo, kodwa ngoMoya.

Alingiphenduli.

Lingiqhubela phambili lapho kungela mpendulo khona. Kasithatheni umbuzo ngamunye ngamunye ukuze ngazi ukuthi lokhu elikutshoyo KUQANGA ngaphi.

Ngithe, U "GOD", cha uNkulu-Nkulu, nxa ethuma abantu ukuthi bazotshela ngobubi bethu, uyehluleka yena yedwa na ukuzasitshela??? Nxa esehluleka, wehlulwa yini???

Nxa u Jesu engumntwana ka "GOD", ethiwa uzahlala esandleni sokudla esetheswa ubukhosi, u "GOD" usezakufa na???

Lokhu kuzasinceda ukuthi sehlukanise umgogodla le nyama.

Liphendule kungela laka. Ama "BHAYIBHELI" engilawo kawakuchasisi konke lokhu.

Li Zwangendaba.

ZWANGENDABA

AKUCACISE UMAHLUKO PHAKATHI KUKA GOD LONKULUNKULU.

Zwangendaba

The English word God is derived from an old Anglo-Saxon word. As such, since the Old Testament was written mostly in Hebrew, and the New Testament was written mostly in Greek, God is not actually found in The Bible, but was used in English-language Bibles to translate a variety of original words of the Scriptures, the primary ones being Elohim, YHVH, El, Shaddai in Hebrew, and Theos in Greek.

Elohim

Elohim, from the Hebrew pronounced el-oh-heem, is the most frequently-recorded Name for God, more than 2,500 times in the Old Testament. Elohim is actually the plural form of its root word, but singular in usage - after all, there is only one God (see The Logos).

Examples where Elohim was translated as God:

"In the beginning God [Elohim] created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1 KJV)

"And God [Elohim] said, Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness" (Genesis 1:26 KJV)

The Tetragram

The second-most common Name for God is the YHVH, or "Tetragram" as it has been called.

The ancient pronunciation of the YHVH is uncertain, and there have been a number of interpretations. The most common is "Jehovah," which some Bibles use in their translation, while others render the YHVH as "Lord." For example, for Exodus 20:2-3, the American Standard Version has, "I Am Jehovah thy God, Who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me," while the King James Version has, "I Am The Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me."

There are also a number of Names which use the YHVH in combination. Examples, using the "Jehovah" interpretation: Jehovah-ropheka, "Jehovah that heals" (Exodus 15:26), Jehovah-meqaddeshkem, "Jehovah Who sanctifies you" (Exodus 31:13), Jehovah-tsabaoth, "Jehovah of hosts" (1 Samuel 1:3), "Jehovah-elyon, "Jehovah Most High (Psalm 7:17), Jehovah-roi, "Jehovah my shepherd (Psalm 23:1)

El

El is used over 200 times as a Name for God, often in combination as El, Eloah and Elyon. Many of the faithful people of God had it in their name e.g. Elijah ("The Lord is God"), Daniel ("The Lord is my Judge"). Another name for Jesus Christ was Immamuel (Matthew 1:23) which means "The Lord is with us."

Shaddai

Shaddai is found almost 50 times in the Old Testament, and is usually translated as Almighty. It was first recorded when God spoke to Abraham: "And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, The Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I Am the Almighty God; walk before Me, and be thou perfect. And I will make My covenant between Me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly." (Genesis 17:1-2 KJV)

Theos

In the New Testament "God" is used for the original Greek word Theos


ther you go brother God has been explained to you i hope.

Uchasise ngokugcweleyo lapha mfowethu.

Bafowethu ngiyajabula kakhulu ukuba size sathola ithuba lokuthi sifunde ngezenkonzweni lapha enkundleni.
Umoya ongcwele ubelani lonke kulokhu elikwenzayo lalapho elikhona,ulivulele inhlanhla kuzozonke izinto ezinhle elizenzayo.
Bengicela bafowethu sikhulekele ukubabambana kwesizwe sakithi.

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siyabonga Ndabezitha ucacise kahle kutsho ke ukuthi uGod nguNkulunkulu.

Limqotho lelo Gestapo

Amen!

Deliverance Through Prayer

Lord teach me how to pray for salvation and deliverance.
Lord teach me how to tie my enemies' brains and hands.
Lord for how long should we have to suffer.
Lord deliver us from evil and from all inequities of this world.
Lord for how lord should your children go hungry, for how long should your innocent children be displaced and scattered throughout the globe.
Oh Lord teach me how to be rebellious and gallant.
Lord for how long should you allow the devil to rule over your children of Mthwakazi?

Lord your children want to be free, Lord give us ways and means to achieve our freedom.
Confusion and lack of determination pulls us back, Lord as we try to regroup and refocus our energies and efforts towards our redemption be our guide and shield.
For when thou Art with us we shall not fear Mugabe and his cronies.
Lord give us wisdom and realisation that it is best for one to be his master, ruler, and everything than to be ruled by another tribe or nation.

Lord help us to be angry and even more angry so that we can not be able to tolerate oppression and subjugation.
Lord our God give us victory over evil ones.
Lord Jesus Christ the Conquering Lion Of the Tribe of Judah, we humble ourselves before thee, we humbly submit our plea for salvation.
Lord in the revival, reinvigoration and rejuvination of Mthwakazi nation be our God, be our salvation, be our weapon and be our dedication.
Lord under the prevailing circumstances it is not easy to be a Mthwakazian, we have nowhere to go, in Zim we are not wanted in South Africa we are not wanted, we are called names, Lord i should think you see how these Shona people brutalise your innocent children
I can't understand Lord why you decided to let us live with these people, but i guess it is for good reasons,so that reality dawns in our minds that we need no stranger as our leader, we need no foreign governments in Mthwakazi.
Lord hit them hard, those who advocate for the suffering of our people.
Lord send another Moses to set your children free.
Lord i am not the first person to pray like this, even King David did when he wanted to defeat the Philistines, Lord you respected his prayer, and i am confident that you will answer my prayer, in the name of Jesus we ask.

AMEN

AMENI BANTU. WAMKELEKILE ONJE UMKHULEKO!

Bafowethu,

AWU! waze wathandaza wethu,umkhulu kankhulu umthandazo wakho lowu.

Lami ngizangezelela ngisithi,

Father in the name of our lord and saviour Jesus Christ'
We humble ourselves before you as people of Mthwakazi'Father we are a lost generation O,lORD'
FATHER WE SEEK OUR DESTINY O'LORD!
DEEP IN OUR HEARTS WE LONG FOR YOUR PRESENCE IN OUR MIDST, Like the children of Israel we seek Canaan,a land which is ours,a land full of milk and honey,Lord we desire our promised land where we will raise leaders from within ourselves.
Father we break the york of the Devil in power in the land of bondage ZIM,WE PARALYSE THE kingdom of the enermy in Jesus name.

Jehovah you are the consuming fire,consume those that have caused our suffering in all these years,slaughter them,avenge for us as we have been weakened by them,prepare a table before our enemies lord.Every weapon that is formed against us will not prosper and every toungue that rises in judgement you shall condemn.
Who art thou oh Mugabe before Mthawakazi you shall become a plain.We refuse to bow before you nor worship you,you have lived by the sword so you shall be done as you have done unto others.

Lastly I pray for all our relatives who are left in GIBITE(ZIM),Give them encouragement,provide for them Jehova ,cause them to be like the birds of the wild that neither worry about what they will eat or where they will sleep for you O'Lord takes care of the morrow.Be with them guard them against diseases,attacks as the devil only comes to steal,kill and destroy,By your blood they are protected,by your stripes they are healed,through the power of the Holy spirit intervene in all their situations.

Lord grant us prosperity,love, unity and the time to know you as a nation.
I thank you lord for answering my prayer.

AMEN!

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One who sees the storm coming before the clouds appear.
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Bafowethu.

Aliwuphendulanga umbuzo wami. Lisuke lathandaza kuphela.

God is not an Anglo Saxon name. It is a Caucasoid name. This was used by those who claim to descend from the Caucasus range of Mountains. These mountains are found in the South of the Soviet Union,(Russia). Between the Black Sea and the Caspean Sea.

These people are said to be of non-Indo-European, non-Turkic. The Anglo Saxon are Indo-European.

These people used to pray to their ancestors in these Mountains, and they used to salute their High Spirit as "GOTT". It was a Salute like we do e Njelele ukuthi "MLIMO TJOKO".

By conquest, this term was spread to the defeated nations one of the earliest having been those of Germanic Nationality. They were made to worship thi GOTT. Up to today they make reference to GOTT.

History tells us that the Anglo Saxon have Germanic ancestory. So their ancestor was modified to GOD. That is History, a fact that is written in their own Language, and taught at their own schools. When they taught us to read the bible, they did not anticipate that we would also be able to read enye njalo imfihlo yabo.

So u NKULU-NKULU can not be GOTT, ngoba u GOTT lidlozi lezinye izizwe.

When they defeated us, they wanted us to forget awethu amadlozi and worship theirs, for complete surrender.

U NKULU-NKULU ngiyamazi bafowethu. Angimtshelwa.

Now, lingiphendule ukuthi u GOD usezakufa na??? nxa ingane yakhe isizabusa???

Njalo u GOD uyehluleka na ukuzasitshela ukuthi siyizoni yedwa aze azeyise kangaka ngokuthumela ababulali lezihuquluzi zomnotho???

Li Zwangendaba.

Mina ngoboni bami bengicabanga ukuthi u'God' akusibizo nje njengokuthi 'James'. Bengizwisisa ukuthi u'God' ngu 'mvelinqangi, umdali wezulu lomhlaba'. Njalo bengingakwazi ukuthi u'God' lona ulenketha. Bengizwisisise ukuthi ungu 'Nkulunkulu' wawonke umuntu ophilayo kulo umhlaba, omvumayo njalo emkhethile, njalo leBhayibhili liyakuveza likufakaza ukuthi kunjalo. Thina abantu ngenxa yokuba sesingenwe yisono sokuthandabuza sesisuka sibone umehluko phakathi kuka'Cain' lo'Abel' bengabantwana bomuntu munye nje. Sesingenelwe lubandlululo olusenza sidazulule inwele okwabonwa ngabelungu. Isiqokoqela yikuthi sikhonze umdali wezulu nomhlaba regardless ukuthi simnike ibizo bani.

Nxa ufunda iBhayibhili, uthola ukuba u'God' loyo lo'Jesus' ongu'Lizwi' bamunye nje. Ngokuzwisisisa kwami okufitshane okwesoni, kuvela ukuba laba ababili akusibo abantu benyama njengami lawe. So kabafi njalo kabadinwa.Ngabe bayafa kumbe bedinwa ngabe wena lami asinteli lapha eNkundleni ngoba impilo zethu zisesandleni sakhe u'Mdali'. U'Jesu' ukuze afe waqala wagqoka umzimba womuntu wenyama. Okwafayo libumba elingumzimba wenyama. Sikesaxoxa ngalokhu esikhathini esedluleyo.

Inkinga ngamadlozi yikuba angabantu abanjengathi asebefile loba ngithi abafayo. Abangeke basincede ngoba labo badalwa njengathi. Ongasinceda nguye kanye owasidalayo. Ungizwisise ukuthi angitsho ukuba olandela amadlozi mubi kumbe kawatshiye. Ngikhomba engikubona kungcono i.e. a direct route to salvation. Umuntu ungezake umthembe okuyangaphi ngoba zingabheda usuka ecabange elakhe ibhetshu. Kodwa u'Mdali' ngeke akulahle ngoba wena uyi'treasure' kuye.

U'God' ukhuluma lathi all the time kodwa ngenxa yokuthi thina sesathanda okukholisisa umzimba sesi'tuned' to the devil's siren elama'parts' onke e'choir'(soprano to bass). Asisamuzwa lakancane nxa ekhuluma lathi u'Mdali'.

Nxa sivuka ekuseni sizwa inyoni zeganga lezekhaya zihlabelela, sivuke sizelule sizamule and after every hour uzwe iqhude liqhunsi 'ngoma. NgoNtulikazi uzwa umoya uvunguza ubone izintuli ziphakama. Nxa kuphela ubusika ubona izihlahla ziqala ukuhluma uzwe izulu liduma ubona umkhathi uguquka usiba yimibala eminengi, amafasitele ezulu avuleke line izulu ligcwalise amachibi lemifula inhlanzi, ingwenya lamaxoxo kujabule, liphume ilanga ubone umkhathi ugqiza umchilo wamakhosikazi (rainbow). Kakusizo yini lezi ezinye zezindlela asikhulumisa ngazo uThixo na? Okudanisayo lapha yikuthi the rest of nature, ngaphandle kwethu abantu esidalwe ngomfanekiso wakhe (wonderfully and fearfully), kuyamlalela uThixo and take heed of his advices.

Ungixolele sengisuka ngikutshumayeze kodwa ngithemba ngikuthintile obufisa ukukuzwisisisa.

Zwangandaba

okwakuqala abahuquluzi kabathunywa nguNkulunkulu eAfrica. nxa ubala ibhayibhili lesiKrestu samamissionery kutshiyene khatshana imfundiso zabo ngezamanga. nxa ufuna ukubona amabonabonane abonwa nguGcugcwa that i-ancient history lebhayibhili you will receive the shock of your life. ulungile nxa uthi balikhonzisa amadlozi abo. ofuransisi be-asisi labo valentine labo santa(satan) clause.

ukuthi uNkulunkulu azizele mangqamu thandaza ukuthi kungakufikeli usesemzimbeni wenyama ngoba uzokufa. abantwana baka-Israel bakhala bebone iyezi kuphela eSinai bathi kuMosi khuluma laye wena konke ozakutshela khona sizakwenza ngoba singambona sizakufa. uMosi wabona umhlane kuphela , incwadi ithi ubuso bakhe bakhazimula, amaIsrael ayesembaleka wayesegqoko isaka evala inkazimulo kaNKULUNKULU ebusweni bakhe.

ungaqathanisi ubukhosi bezulu lamandlwane lamanyala alomhlaba okuthi ubukhosi butshiywa ngokufa. UMzilikazi waqeda izinduna ngalokho onja labocastro bafuna ukufela khona opapa sebetshutshwa bethwelinduku. God is very democratic, Him and His Son Jesus are one,in function,the Son draws His strenght from the Father.

ubukhosi abahlalayo ngobukayise usesandleni sokhohlo sikayise. God never dies He is the life giver ngitsho lokuyisibungwana draws it's life from Him the author of life. i-unity of God and His Son Jesus ungayifanisi leyabonja lonkomo. when Jesus was on this earth performed that which was only for God i.e forgiving sins and He was wright. uPhilip owaze wahlatshelwa nguSkuza, wacela ukuthi uJesu abatshengise uYise wathi obone yena ubone uYISE obone uYise ubone yena ngoba ekuyise loyise ekuye.

khangela okwenzakala ecalvary uJesu uyakhala uthi Eli Eli Lama sabachthani ,Nkulunkulu wami , Nkulunkulu wami ungitshiyelani na? that was the first and last ever Jesus was separated from His Father. the earth was darkened at noon why? guess.

in this world sometimes the bond btwn the father is stronger than that btwn husband and wife whatmore in Heaven? ezinye izinto ezaziqakathekile ubaba ubezidiskhasa lami b4 my mother. God is not a ntandokayiphikiswa as satan would like to potray Him via his false preachers and prophets who preach lies that God seeks to destroy his adversaries in everlasting brimestone.the bible is clear that by sending Jesus as our redeemer it is His desire that any should perish but all have everlasting life.

may God help you my dear brother to shun from referring to gold seekers as from God, God's word is clear read it for your self prayerfully and meditatively and seek his righteousness.HE is faithful and just to reveal himself to you.

GOD bless you my brother in Christ.

THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH

Bafowethu.

Siphepheli.
Utshaya indingilizi. U "GOD" ngebhayibhili uyazitsholo yedwa ukuthi "I am the (GOD) of Israel." Ngiqondise lapho athi yena "I am the (GOD) of the Bantu, Indians, Arabs, etc" Unless that bible is written by men. Because some people purport that it was written by the inspiration of their "GOD".

Utshaya indingilizi. Uthi uJESU ukuze afe waqala wagqoka umzimba womuntu. Ubuye uthi "Inkinga yikuthi amadlozi ANGABANTU abanjengathi, asebefile." Kwehlukene ngaphi, idlozi eligqoke umuntu, loJesu ogqoke umuntu??? Mhlawumbe idlozi yikuthi ligqoke onsundu???

Uthi u "GOD" lo, loJESU bamunye. Kutsho ukuthi kalamandla lo "GOD" nxa elingwa ngu SATANE. Luke 4:1-13. He has no power over the devil, he can only ask the devil to live him alone. If he had power, we would destroy this power to wich we as mortals have no solution. Uyafana ke lathi lo GOD ngoba akenelisi ukudiliza la MANDLA kaSATANE aselinga aze alinge laye.

Uthi ukhomba okubona kungcono, "Direct route to salvation" My question is, "Salvation from what?"

There is however a sentence engikutshayela ihlombe ngayo: uthi, "Umuntu ungezake umthembe okuyangaphi ngoba zingabheda usuka ecabange elakhe ibhetshu." Bomama tshayani umpululu.

SO DID JESUS WHEN JOHN WAS IN TROUBLE, MATT. 4:12. HE WAS MADE OF FLESH, AND WHEN JOHN WAS IMPROSINED, HE RAN AWAY FROM JORDAN TO GALILEE.

He was just responding to what flesh demanded of him.

Li Zwangendaba.

Bafowethu.

GESTAPO. Sengikubekile historically ukuthi u "GOD" lo Nkulu-Nkulu yinto ezehlukeneyo. Just because idlozi lami ngelako NGCAMANE, does not mean that if I defeated you, you attain idlozi lami. "GOD" was a high spirit of the Caucasoids. Because of their conquest of lesser Europeans, they were made to worship that "GOD". I am not going to.

Ukuza kwesi KIRISETU e Afrika. If a Valture brings me a message which says, "Do not worry of the riches of this world" while with those riches the same valtures are getting rich right on my face, I will not trust the Valture, nor believe the message.

Ngibona angathi ama bhayibhili ethu ehlukene.

1."GOD" is not democratic. If you read the King JAMES VERSION, Gen: 33 vs 1-2. The jews up to today slaughter the palestinians because it is THEIR GOD given right to.

2."GOD and JESUS are not one. Matt. 19:3-10. Especially verse 7&8. Jesus here is arguing against the LAW which he gave Moses Generations back, unless it is not true that he was there at the begining. Alternately, this means "GOD" changes his mind depending on the HARDNESS of his people's hearts. They control his behaviour. Or is something missing here??? Because bibles are so varried.

3.Ngicela an honest answer, Nxa u GOD lo JESUS be muntu munye, why are there so many churches??? Yini la Ma CHURCH engezwanani??? Is it not the nature of Humans, ukuthi elinye lelinye idlozi kalifuni kuhanjelwa phambili ngamanye na???

Li Zwangendaba

Zwangendaba

a) mina uNkulunkulu engikhuluma ngaye is the God of heaven ukuthi iterm yavela ngaphi is of no value on this particular discussion, if you are talking about another case closed we are talking about different deities thanks for that enlightenment vele ukufunda akupheli. mina my God is the creator of heavens and earth from everlasting to everlasting.

b)God and Jesus are one in function and purpose revisit my other posting carefully. Jesus came to fulfill the law of Moses and the prophets not to contradict it.

c) according to my knowledge there are only two churches in the world one an apostate church where most of the bible critics derive their arguments, and the true church of God which is not so popular with circular scholars. these churches are represented by a whore sitting on a scarlet seven headed and ten horned beast(apostate church) and the other represented by apure woman covered with the sun and standing on the moon(true church) in the apocalypes. the false church has some daughters who are whores thus why these little denominations contending one against the other njengabantwana besifebe sinye.

otherwise isiKrestu is a long history which stated rite in heaven yes in heaven. otherwise the Jews are killing Palestinians under the command of their father lucifer. in Jesus there is no Jew or Gentile jews wre only light bearers to calvary now the call is whosoever willeth let him come.

pliz note i'm not quoting any scripture and we are talking about two different religons amadlozi and christianity i don't see any relationship on that one i'm out linganceda malunga.

but what i know is this no but goes to the Father except through Jesus jews rejected him long time ago as a nation now it's up to individuals. labamadlozi bayamala it's their rite in your case you know him and He is not credible, but test and see that the Lord is good.

Bafowethu.

If the jews were not commanded by "GOD" to invade the land of the Palestinians, the Cannanites, the Hittetites, etc, then the book of the Exodus should cease to exist in the BIBLE, which is the CONSTITUTION of the CHRISTIANS. But if the Bible is incomplete without the book of the EXODUS, then the Christians should write their own BOOK. And if they decide to write their own book, they should never refere to JESUS as the son of GOD, because "GOD" exists in the old Bible. Or alternately, they could CREATE a new "NAME" and strive to compete the Christians in marketing that name. It will not be easy now to force people because AMEHLO se-avuleka.

I am impressed in that you say you are not quoting any scriptures!!! Phoke, from where do these two churches come???

Mina into engani iyangiphica yikuthi nxa u"GOD" elamandla, wehlulwa kuyini ukuthi akuchithize nje akubhuqebhuqe lokhu okungama CHURCH okwesibili??? Thina phela kasilawo lawo mandla njalo laye as you say, knows that we have no power. So if he waits on us to be tempted by the DEVIL, which is more powerful than us, THEN TAKES A SWIPE AT US AND PUNISHES US FOR FAILING TO DEFEAT A POWER THAT HE HIMSELF HAS FAILED TO DEFEAT FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL, Kutsho ukuthi wenza okwa manzi agelezela lapho kwehlele khona.Uyehlulwa abesezophindisela kulabo abehlulayo laye. Wena wedwa ukubona kule LOGIC na???

I need an honest answer engela kucunuka, lokufuthelana. Ngiyala ukuthi u"GOD" lo ngu NKULU-NKULU. Qha!!! Kalawo amandla.

Ungalilandela i bhayibheli, uyathola ukuthi sonke isikhathi kuyaqala konakale, abesesithi, "haa!, bengingaboni ukuthi abantu bami bazakwenzenje. Hamba ke MOSES, hamba ke ELIJA, hamba ke JESU, uyebaqondisa kanje."

THAT MEANS HE HAS NO POWER TO SEE WHAT COMMETH. HE IS NOT PRO-ACTIVE BUT RE-ACTIVE.

Yikho ngiyala mina ukuthi ungu NKULU-NKULU. Nanku lawe usuliphika njalo iBhayibhili.

Li Zwangendaba.

Zwangendaba

when i discuss about God i have no qualms with anybody or anything angilakho ukucunuka khululeka.

well indaba yama Palestinian lamaJews i thot ubukhuluma ngokwenzakala manje God has nothing with what Ariel Sharon and Arafat are doing nxa ukhuluma ngeconquest of Cannan thus a different scenario go back to the same bible and read the book of the very exodus.

angiphiki ibhayibhili ngokungaliquote simply becoz wathi wena you don't want amaquotations abhalwa yilababahuquluzi ironical enough you do the same at will.

God is all powerful but He gave us the power of freewill you can choose what you want he cannot destroy the mother harlot and her little whores yet until people have fully understood and chose not to follow Him.in Lk9:56 the disciples ask Jesus to call down fire to destroya Samaritan village He refuse saying he came not to destroy but to save life.

as i said the character of God has been misrepresented as destroyer by this mother whore who claim all the prerogatives even to forgive sins thru her licentious priests. God came down from heaven to hand His ten commandments to mortal beings as a guide to His will, then i wonder how did He become a snaresetter for sinful beings.

satan is not powerful than you brother all our temptations are within the range of resistence only thru Christ who strenghtens us. satan cant even read your mind he only watches your actions and know the rightful bait for you. satan attack your weakest point nxa uthanda indabakanjani uzahlala ufebile kuphela ngoba isiketi singathi tshazi sewuyile. angeke akulinge ngokweba imota kungekho ezenzweni zakho. lokhu okuthiwa thandaza ngendimi ukuze usatane angezwa lihlayo lelo he cant stand between a praying soul and God.

well indaba yeterm God i think uNdabezitha did a thorough run down on that. and nxa usufuma ukuthi siquote ibhayibheli labahuquluzi then let's dance. parametres being uyalikholwa na nxa ungalikholwa kuyini ongakukholwayo beside iterm God coz that one in response just scroll up to iposting kaNdabezitha angingeke ngazi okwedlula laphaya. simoya munye ungethuki amaterms ezifebe angithukuthelanga incwadi ikubeka ngaleyondlela. my spirit is free and i'm yet to learn from you.

THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH

Bafowethu.

Kutsho ukuthi sesilahlene. Indaba ingasukela eqinisweni, iyaphela ilokhu iliqiniso.

U Ndabezitha uthe yena "GOD" is an Anglo-Saxon word. AKUSILO QINISA LELO. The Anglo-Saxon are Indo-European.

"GOD" is CAUCASIAN. And the Caucasian are NOT Indo-European. Their History tells us that they used to WORSHIP their "High Spirit" at Mt. Caucas and they used to yell, "GUUTTI" which was later on corrupted to "GOD".

So let us agree on that score that we were made to believe ukuthi uNkulu-Nkulu is "GOD" when actualy they named him after their ANCESTOR.

My quotation from the bible is to try and understand some of the riddles in there, because to be honest, some of them do not make sence.

1. We are told that "GOD" is the only High Spirit and all others are evil, but we read in the same book brought to us as a message of peace that he LED HIS PEOPLE into destroying other people's properties!!! Capturing their land, and driving them to poverty. If what the JEWS did during the time of MOSES was not commanded by their "GOD", then we must be reading different bibles.

2. We are told that we should resist temptation, but we are not capable to. If there is a weakness in me that makes the SATAN to be able to tempt me ( as you say that the SATAN is not stronger than me, but its my weakness), who created that weakness in me???
What is the objective? Am I also a God to be tried of my strength???

3. We are told that the "GOD" is all-powerful. But the SATAN has existed for all these generations, opposing him and tempting him. SATANA by the way is said to have been created by "GOD". Did he not have foresight that SATAN would one day turn against him. Did he not have that power to see in the future??? If he is all-powerful, iqinisa kumele ngabe kade wasibhuqabhuqa lesi si SATANE. Wehlulwa kuyini???

4. That is why I make the quotations, to show that there is something a-miss here.

5. Lapho esihlangana khona yikuthi uNkulu-Nkulu ukhona. Lapho esehlukana khona yikuthi u "GOD" ngu Nkulu-Nkulu. Lalapho ezinye izizwe eziphakanyiswa khona kuthiwe yizo ezizabonisa abantu bonke u Nkulu-Nkulu. YIKUZEYISA LOKHU.

Kuyakhanya ukuthi i Bhayibhili is not the BEST example of telling people about uNkulu-Nkulu. Ngoba abanikazi balo benza exactely lokho okulotshwe kilo, kuthi abanye bafise ukuthi ngabe likhuluma lokho okumele kwaziwe kuphela.

Ngibonga uMKHULU wami ngoba wayehlala ethi silibale iBhayibhili ukwenzela ukuthi sazi ukuthi limumetheni. Wayethi yena, "Ukuze ungaqilwa, azi ukuthi lo lalo, bacabanga njani."


Li Zwangendaba.

Bafowethu.

Kengibuze ama "MOSLEM". Bona u "ALLAH" ngu GOD na??? Nxa engu "GOD", kwenzakalani ukuze abantwabakhe baqedane kanje??? U JESU uyisimo bani ku "ISLAM" ??? Okhokho benu liyabakhumbula na njengalokhu esikwenzayo thina ABENSUNDU???

Li Zwangendaba.

Zwangendaba
ukuze sicace mfowethu bheka i post yami eya mhlaka 14-7 2004. lapho engangichasisa ukuthi " God kwavela ngaphi KusiKrestu.

Bafowethu.

Ngivumelana lawe Ndabezitha. Uyatsho ukuthi "GOD" kwebolekwa. Manje ngesintu kuyazila ukuthi ngibize uMDALI ngebizo lesidalwa.

Nansi enye indaba elingangiphenduli kuhle kuyo: Kanti u"GOD" lo, kali mbono na??? Sengabuza angazathola mpendulo. If he created SATANA, did he not have a foresight that he will be in trouble with his own creation, or he has no power over his own creation???


Enye indaba engiphicayo, eyenza ngibone angathi abantu bayagadiswa nje: There is no mention of JESUS in the old Testament. So Aa KIRESETU ayihlanganisa ngaphi IMBALI yama JUDA le NKOSI yabo u JESUS???

Li Zwangendaba.

into le isobala kimi engaba manengi amabizo kaNkulunkulu mina engimaziyo ngowadala izulu lomhlaba thus the difference lezithixo lamadlozi lokunye okunenginengi. God the Creator is God.

God created all beings with the power of choice even satan and God knows the end from the begining even He created man the weakest of all forms of creation and gave him choice and man is engaged on self distruction.

about Jesus and the old testament read Isa 53.

Bafowethu.

Issaih 53 does not mention JESUS in anyway. I did not see his name there or any resemblence of him. Maybe you meant another chapter.

As far as conviction is concerned, no amount of telling you that "GOD" is a borrowed name can convince you. But historically that is what it is.

Kufana lokuthi ngehlulwe ngu Ndlovu, ngikhonziswe idlozi lika "Ndlovu", Ngize ngicine lami sengizibona ngingu Ndlovu sibili.

Ngesintu sithi,"INTO ENHLE NGEMFUNDISO, YIKUTHI UNGAVELE UYIGINYE, NGEKE UYIHLANZE LOBA SEBEKU GABHISA." >>>Ngizazama ukutolikela esiKhiweni, "THE GOOD THING ABOUT KNOWLEDGE IS THAT ONCE ACQUIRED, IT CAN NOT BE WITHDRAWN."

Yikho, basifundisa ukubala. Befuna sibale iBhayibhili kuphela. Kodwa ngenxa yokuthi sesikwazi ukuzibalela LONA KANYE ULIMI LWABO, sesibala lalokho abakade besifihlela khona. Ngenxa yokuthi besivele sisola indlela zabo, sekusobala manje ukuthi kunengi akade bekufihla.

Li Zwangendaba.

Bafowethu.

Kanti kasila ma"MOSLEM" na???

Ngifuna ukwazi ukuthi, What role does a Kirfa play in the Islam Religion??? What does the word Kirfa mean in ARABIC, the Language of the Qur-Ann???

Are we equal before Allah, or there are some who are chosen, and others who are convicted of CRIMES that are not clarified to us.

Should we live in constant fear of "hell" if you have one too???

Ake lincede. Okwamanje I have just bought a "HOLY QUR-AN". I never took this religion seriously until the 9/11 saga.

Is it right to kill some one because he does not worship the same DEITY as you??? The Christians used to do that too. Now they claim to have repented. I need to be helped through your HOLY BOOK.

Li Zwangendaba.

Baba Zwangendaba

Isaiah is called the messianic prophet or gospel prophet and indeed in chapter 53 Isaiah talks about Jesus. but you are looking for the name Jesus if you have the KJV or NKJV what is the sub title for chapter 53 of Isaiah. may you comment on the following verse Isa 53:5

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Buthe was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him ;and with his stripes we are healed.

christians never persecuted anyone only that diabolic system which pretends to be the custodian of the christian faith yet they cling to pagan worship and trample on God's Holy Law. Don't be fooled they are not repented they are coming this time to destroy God's saints but Michael shall stand for His, Dan 12:1.

that system is satanic that's a political system never christian only an outward and senseless veneration of the cross while the teachings of Jesus are buried beneath senseless traditions they only have the form of godliness but they deny the power thereof.

sorry i din't flank my quotation but thus the one right under the blank space.

i'll suggest we start looking at the spirit of prophecy Daniel and the Revelation so that we can have a clear understanding of isiKrestu engikhuluma ngaso hatshi insumansumane lezi esizithola ezinkonzweni ngabaprophet bamanga. these days sekwafika amamirakili lawo abanye bathi bavula amehlo bona begqoke amangilazi awabo bawasa kuma-optician. if you agree baba Zwangenadaba, but it will call for an intense study of history, archaeological evidence and and above all the B66 bomber.

Angikaboni not even one 'philosophy' enikeza impilo enhle ukwedlula le eyisikrestu. Ayilabudlwangudlwangu, ayilamona, ayilamhawu, ayilakuloya, ayilakubulala, ayilabufebe,...Aaaah lami njengeZwangendaba ngingabalisa lize liyekunina, bandla.

Thina manje abantu (mina lawe) singangena kulesisikrestu, maye kwabanye bethu. Thina yithi esisuka sibone angathi nxa sesingamakrestu konke esikutshoyo lesikwenzayo sokungcwele njalo kuhle kuvunyelwe, kanti siyona ngamandla. Besekusithi uZwangendaba ozimele yedwa laphaya abone isikrestu sesisibi kukanti omubi yimi lawe esizithi singamakrestu.

Besekuzoba khona njalo abathatha isikrestu in a political way. Hayi-ke bandla isikrestu akusiyo politics but a way of life. Esikristwini akula ongcono kulomunye. Sonke sonile phambili kukaThixo and yena ma esibheka usibona singabantwana bakhe sonke nje.

Nxa ngifunda iBible angihlangani lakho lapho uNkulunkulu ahlomisa abantu bakhe ukuthi bayohlasela ezi/sinye izi/sizwe okungekho emthethweni. Isikhathi sonke ngihlangana laye ehlomisa abantu bakhe ukuba bazivikele ngemva kokuba sebehlaselwe okungekho emthethweni. Ngihlangana laye uThixo esebenzelana laba'marginalised', 'oppressed', 'hated' etc.

UThixo kayisuye wenkani loba impikiswano. Usinikeze inkululeko yokuzikhethela indlela esiyifunayo. He does not force!

Bafowethu.

Baba GESTAPO. I want to invite you ukuthi uvakashele i www.bbc.co.uk/religion , and take your time over some of the topics covered there.

OF NOTE IS THE HISTORIC FACT THAT "CONSTATINE", THE ROMAN KING WHO SPREAD CHRISTIANITY, WAS CONVERTED TO CHRISTIANITY ROUGHLY AROUND 4AD.

Now when the Christians (ROMANS) went into England, because do not forget that the English were Roman slaves for 400 years, the indeginous people of those Islands had their own way of worshiping their High Spirit.

History tells us that it took 300 years of torture and murder of the so called "PAGANS", for Christianity to establish itself in England.

SO I DO NOT AGREE THAT CHRISTIANITY DID GO PEACEFULY TO ANY PART OF THE WORLD.

My question which still stands un answered is: "WHY WOULD (GOD), IF HE IS THE ALMIGHTY, USE A METHOD SO UNPOPULAR WITH THE TEACHINGS TO SPREAD HIS FAME?"

Esintwini silibuza maKIRISETU sithi,"UMLAYEZELO WO HELWANE UNGEZA LE JUBA NA???"

How can "GOD" send his message of peace and "SALVATION" using CRIMINALS???

Wena wedwa awukuboni ukuthi it defeats the whole objective??? Unless if we want to say the whole History is lying. This History of Europe is written by the Europeans themselves. Unlike ours where our people prefere the European version of us to the version given by IZANGOMA zethu.

I wish to say here that ISANGOMA akusuye muntu owelaphayo. Isangoma ngumuntu ofundiswa ukulondoloza IMBALI, lo MLANDO we SIZWE. Isangoma is simply a CUSTODIAN of History, Culture, Religin. It is the White man who made some of us to accept the distorted DEFINITION of Isangoma. Thina abosiko we still stick to the original BANTU definitions of BANTU terms.

Li Zwangendaba.

Bafowethu.

Siphepheli. Ubuya kuhle lale indaba. Thina esintwini sikuchasisa ngokuthi bekuvele kulize konke lokhu okwesi KERISETU.

Kambe u "GOD" angakwekela usiba "CONVERTED", uthi usufanele ukuphakamisa igama lakhe athi ridicule you in front of the whole world by letting you abuse your religion???

Angazi kumbe ngizwakele???

If you are a messanger of "GOD", it is not within your power to do what you will do, but all lies in the power of your creator. If you have been converted and follow JESUS, your soul is suposed to be clean, and no more AMAQHINGA (Temptations) ka SATANA can waive you from the path of "GOD".

Yikho kuvela ngaphi ukuthi abantu bethi sebe ngama KIRISETU baqale ukuzibona, kulokuthi baqhube umsebenzi wabo??? Kutsho ukuthi lawo mandla abakhuluma ngawo lize leze nje.

Today as we speak, here in AMERIKA, we are witnessing marriages of the same sex, being done none other than the highly ordained Priests of the world's GREATEST churches. The same priests are being sued for raping children, not girl children, but boy children!!!

Where is "GOD" when his messangers are persecuting his name like that??? Thina osikweni sithi akalawo amandla ngoba elawo bekungasoke kwenzakale khona kanye ekuqaleni kwakho konke lokhu. Kumbe njalo sithi akekho loyo muntu okuthiwa ngu "GOD", he is just a figmentation in the minds of those who fear the unknown.

Ukwenzela ukuthi lathi sesabe, baqala ukusitshela ukuthi u"GOD" usenguye uNkulu-Nkulu wethu. HAA!!!

YINTO ESEGCEKENI LEYO.

Li Zwangendaba.

God's time is always the best and a thousand years is like one day unto Him and one day like a thousand years.

i think i told you long time ago ukuthi lababantu abazithi bangamakrestu bedlwengula abafanyana they are a synagogue of satan.

they are working tirelessly to present God as an angered tyreny who kindles hellfire to consume the wicked unless they pay money to the priests. they pledge celibacy yet living in gruesome sentuality in their so called parishes and monestrys ranging from sodomy to adultery nuns aborting like hookers.

they are exposed in the word of God and protestants are now going back to the mother whore with the anglican officiating on gay marriages and lesbianism the very sins that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for.

if you study prayerfully the spirit of prophecy i.e the book of Daniel and the Revelation you will be shocked who real is the man of sin.

there are some sincere christians out there who are worshiping the True Creator in truth and in spirit.

and being a christian is not an exemption from the devils snares and being a none christian does not exempt anyone either all have sinned and comeshort of the glory of God and thru Christ our advocate we are reconciled to our God and He is slow to anger and His tender mercies endureth forever.

Bafowethu.

Imnandi le INDABA. Kanti manje onguye oleqinisa ngubani??? Nanku lonke libala iBhayibhili linye qha!!! Onguye oleqinisa phakathi kwama KIRISETU ahlukeneyo kangaka ngubani???

Ake siphendule indaba kancane - Sibuyele gu GENESIS chapter 4, read together with chapter 6.

The first children to be born were CAIN and ABEL. Then Cain killed Abel. But of all we read for ourselves, it is clear that "GOD" made CAIN to kill ABEL. Chapter 4 verse 3-7. It is clear here that CAIN was a tiller of the land. What more was he expected to offer to his "GOD"??? U "GOD" lo li ndebele uqobo, ukuthanda inyama - JUST A JOKE!!!

But to be serious, wayefuna u CAIN ebe na ukuze asuthise umhawu wakhe wenyama??? Ekuqaleni kwengxoxo yethu le, wathi u"GOD" is democratic, and has no favour!!! Akuzibuze njalo.

Chapter 4 verse 16, uthi, "and Cain went out of the presence of the LORD,and dwelt in the land of NOD, on the east of EDEN." Yikho lapho athatha khona umfazi. Basebevela ngaphi laba bantu nxa u ADAM wazala u CAIN lo ABEL?

Chapter 6 verse 1 and 2, and 4.

Who are these sons of "GOD" abakhanya sebe NGENA abantwana babantu, "and produced children with them,the same became mighty men, which were of old, men of renown"???

AWUKUBONI NA UKUTHI YIKHO LAPHO OKUCHASISA KHONA UBUKHOKHO BUKA "god" KULESI SIZWE. Icacile kamhlophe imbali loMlando waso lesi isizwe ukuthi bayalazi idlozi labo.

ZAZIKHONA EZINYE IZIZWE NGASESE. LABO o ADAM BAKUNANZELELA EMVA SEKUXOTSHWE U CAIN.

Angazi ukuthi wena uyibona njani le indaba.

Li Zwangendaba.

Khazi! Akuthi lami ngizame.
Sebesizile ngaphambili ukuchasisa ukuthi uNkuluNkulu ngu God. Angazi kumbe sesivumelene kulokho. Nxa uthanda bala ku Isiah 46 v 9-11.

Mina ngithanda ukuphendula mayelana ngobudlelwano buka God lo Jesus. Mathew 1 20-23 usitshela nge incarnation ka Jesu which was in essence, the incarnation of God. The Lord, yena uGod appeared to Joseph in a dream and declared that Mary's child was conceived by the Holy Spirit and would be a son. Kwakungakabi lama ultrasound esilawo namuhla. Lakanye wazalwa waba yi ndodana. The biggest truth revealed here about Jesus is that He is both Human and God. Conceived of the Holy Spirit sent by whom...God who has all knowledge and is in control of the future and everything else. The conception and birth of Jesus are supernatural events beyond human logic or reason.God realised this and sent angels to help people understand the significance of what was happening. (See Matt 2:13, 19 & Luke 1;11, 26;2:9)
Ku 2Corithians 8;9 we are told that though He was rich, He became poor for our sakes. Jesus became poor by giving up His rights as God and becoming human. In His incarnation, God voluntarily became man, a wholly human person. He did not give up His eternal power when he bacame human, but he did set aside His Glory.

It is either uyakholwa okulotshiweyo kumbe hatshi.

Kwanele okwanamuhla. kwelinye ilanga ngizadobha eyokuguga kuka God and Jesus sitting at His right hand.

well okwakuqala ithi ngithi mina amajokes ngawethu hatshi ngebizo leNkosi kanti njalo God is not a canivor. asinanzeleleni amahlayo becoz akumelanga siliphathe ngeze igama leNkosi. ngiyabonga.

indaba yeNod lamkaCain is very simple not every son and daughter of Adam and Eve are documented in the holy scripture only those with relevence to the plan of man's salvation. for sure Adam and Eve had other many children and grandchildren and the antedeluvians(preflood peolpe) lived longer than we do the space between the murder might have been quite a number of years for others to be born and scatter.

God is very democratic if He wasn't how will sinners eat and live, rain falls for everybody vile and holy. zimbabwe is one classic example those who don't support mugabe no grain, but God feeds us all.

if one is only capable of offering what he produces then the word trade should be scraped out. that sacrifice was a symbol of the ultimate(Jesus) therefore blood was to be shed for without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. Cain could have traded for a lamb since it was for the purpose of God whom his brother saved Abel was going to offer one but he was defiant and rebelious like the rest of us not taking God at HIS word.

Cain's seed is causing havoc even today possing as christians yet trampling on God's Holy precepts.

faith is all what it takes to be christian becoz spiritual things are foolishness to a canal mind becoz they are spiritually descened. most scholars were silenced by the discovery of the dead sea scrolls which they can't dispute showing the old testament narrative word for word yet today there are still some people who still quote the prediscovery theories to their own destruction yet their founders discaded them longtime ago and never told them about new discoveries, not you Zwangendaba, you are a noble man, but refrain from taking the name of God in vain. some circular professors still believe they evolved from monkeys, what a shame, y Carlos Darwin renounced his fables on his deathbed but some still cling unto them.

GESTAPO

Hhayi kabi mnumzane. Uzongixolela ngoba kimina izinkweshe zisemagange.

Izwi likaJehova liyasho encwadini engcwele lithi: thanda umakhelwane wakho kangangokuba wena uzithanda. Liyasho futhi ukuthi umhlaba ungokaJehova, izilwane nemisinga kunye nabahamba kuwo. Liyagcizelela izwi ukuthi umona nenzondo yisono, nesici esizojeziswa esihogweni ngosuku lokuza kwendodana yomuntu. Liyasho izwi lithi, ngosuku lwamanqamu - zokhala izimfamona!

Tshela mina ke mnumzane: nakhu lapha uthi wena masingadlali ngezwi lenkosi ngoba uJehova mkhulu. Kodwa, ngiyabuza kuwena ngithi kungani uye wabhala kwenye indawo ukhombisa inzondo kuhlanga lwamaShona? Ubabiza abathakathi bezigodo njalo uyanxusa kubantu ukuthi mabadudule wonke amaShona ngodlame - behlomile ngemiphini yamakhuba!

Ingabe ukholo lwakhe luyayeseka lenzondo yakho? Ingabe izulu likaSomandla liyangenwa ngenzondo enjena?

Tshela mina baba.

uMntongenakudla kaNgogwane waKwaDlangezwa.
Inxangiphilile.
KwelikaMthaniya.

Bafowethu.

Mzala, angivumi ukuthi u"GOD" ngu Nkulu-Nkulu. Lapha sikhuluma ngokwehlulwa, and having other people impose their religions on us.

Nxa u"GOD" elenketha, kuyakhanya ngoba loba bezositshela ukuthi phambi kwakhe siyafana, bephuma nje ecaweni, sebesima bodwa. Pho silingana ngaphi???

U "GOD" lidlozi nje, as I have explained in my previous contributions. LOKHU KUTSHIWO YIBO KANYE ABANIKAZI BOLIMI LAPHO KWABOLEKWA KHONA LELO GAMA ELITHI "GOD". The Caucasian languages.

Inkolo akumele yenziwe njenge "DAYIZA" okuthiwa "Head or Tail". Okuthiwa "It is either you believe or not."

ESINTWINI sithi: U NKULU-NKULU UKHONA. The GREAT SPIRIT is not to be marketed by humans of flesh, as their knowledge of him is ZERO. Ungalilandela i Bhayibhili, uyalibona ukuthi liyivoxa njani indaba yalo. Isizatho yikuthi abantu bathatha imbali yama JUDA bayenze the all Authority into the worship of the great spirit.

Kuthi lapho usubuza, abantu bengezelele into ezingekho e Bhayibhilini, sebesenzela ukuvala izigamba.

Lokho kuphenduka kube ngamanga ngoba kungela bufakazi.

You can not market the GREAT SPIRIT (UNKULU-NKULU). Should he wish to manifest himself, he does so to whomsoever he wishes and at his time of choosing.

I Bhayibhili yimbali lenkolo yama JUDA. Ezinye izizwe zathanda nje ukuba ngama xhakele. Yikho indaba yakhona zisehluleka ukuyichasisa.

Siyehluleka ukuchasisa amagama alapho ngoba kawala ngitsho lobuhlobo lolimi lwethu. Lumnandi njalo ulimi lwethu. La magama ayasehlula ukuwachasisa ngoba awalabo ubuhloba lakancane losiko lwethu.

Li Zwangendaba.

Bafowethu.

Esintwini sikhuluma ngokuthethela. Yikho lapho ESIBONGA khona. Yikho lapho ESIKHONONA khona. Yikho lapho ESIBUZA khona, lapho ESICELA khona, lapho esiTHANDAZA khona, lapho esiSOLA khona. YIKHO NJALO LAPHO ESICHOTHOZA KHONA.

Esintwini kasimesabi uNKULU-NKULU. Sithi silobuhlobo laye. Ngizaphinda isintu esidala esithi sona: UMA SINGESABA, KUKHONA ESINGAKUGUQULA NA???"

That is our relationship with the GREAT SPIRIT, uNKULU-NKULU. A relationship built on the KNOWLEDGE that whilst we KNOW that the GREAT SPIRIT exists, we do not KNOW what He thinks or what he will do next. And that has got nothing to do with us.

YISO ISINTU leso. We joke about the Great Spirit. We joke to Him too, even if we do not KNOW how He takes those jokes.

Gestapo.
ALLOW ME TO MAKE A QUOTE OF YOUR POST:
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if one is only capable of offering what he produces then the word trade should be scraped out. that sacrifice was a symbol of the ultimate(Jesus) therefore blood was to be shed for without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. Cain could have traded for a lamb since it was for the purpose of God whom his brother saved Abel was going to offer one but he was defiant and rebelious like the rest of us not taking God at HIS word.
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Your first sentense tells us that "GOD" gave CAIN an economic lesson that was so cruel it cost his brothers life??? !!!
Your second sentence contradicts the first one,IF Jesus was the Altimate, then he was a Canivour, as you yuorself say BLOOD had to be spilled.
Your last sentence is difficult to follow, because in the bible I have, CAIN did not rebel against anyone. They were asked to sacrifice and he brought with his "WHITE" heart, what he was capable of. IF YOU IMPLY THAT HE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT "god" EATS ONLY MEAT, THEN IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY. THIS BECOMES YOUR STORY, BECAUSE IT IS NOT SAID SO IN THE BIBLE. UYENGEZELELA LAPHA MFOWETHU.

Emva uchasisa ngabantu laba abalotsholwa ngu CAIN. The King James version, The American Standard version, are all at varience with what you are saying. Alikutsho ukuthi ADAM had daughters after ABEL. Ngizaxolisa ngithi Uyengezelela njalo.

Ngivumele: Chapter 4:1 And Adam knew his wife and she concieved and bare CAIN, and said I have GOTTEN A MAN from the Lord. Chapter 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of Sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. Chapter 4:8 ........., when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

And Adam knew his wife again, and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For GOD, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

Chapter 5:4 And the days of Adam (AFTER HE BEGETH SETH WERE 800 YEARS. AND HE BEGAT SONS AND DAUGHTERS) My brackets, to show the difference between what you say and what the Bible says. There were no daughters before that mentioned. Asingabhali awethu amaBhayibhili.

I stand corrected.

Li Zwangendaba.

Khazi!

Kanti uPauli yena owayeli Juda lama Juda ukhuluma ngama Gentile ku New Testament ukuthi labo sebe ngaba circumcised ukhuluma ngabonani? Uyakwazi na ukuthi after Pentecost, Ujesu esebuyele ezulwini, kwakulabantu ababevela eAfrica? Kwakulom Ethiopia owahlangana lo Phillip evela laye kwamkela uMOya Ongcwele owawuthenjiswe izizwe zonke ukuba yiwo ozahambisa ivangeli kuzizwe zonke okugoqela even isu baKalanga?

Manje nxa usala ukuthi UNkulu Nkulu nguye UGod yena ezitsholo yedwa ukuthi nguyena mina angisakwazi ukuthi ngithi prove njani.

Mntongenakudla

do unto others as you would like them to do unto you. my people were killed and are being killed those who do thus the same compacted and shaken together they shall reap. he who leads into captivity shall be led into captivity and he who liveth by the sword by the same he shall perish.

Bafowethu.

Wilila Ba-Madzi. The Historical Ethiopia streches from Arabia, (YEMENI/ SOUDI ARABIA etc) Those people were called ETHOS, which means those whose skin looks like it has been bleached by ETHA ( a chemical that darkens), It stretches to the North Eastern corner of today's Ethiopia. Do not forget that the Ethiopians used to regard themselves, and some still do up to today, as non-Afrikan. They used to call the AFRIKANS ABBYSES, which means MONKEY. The old AFRIKA used to be called ABBYSINEA, meaning land of Monkeys. In Ahmaric Language, (which I speak very well, because I lived in that country for 3 years) they call it ABESHA.

It was only in latter years when we had the colonial ETHIOPIA, that they accept to also be called ABESHAS.

The presence of an Afrikan Amerikan in the AMERICAN CONGRESS does not in any way make the Amerikan Government universal. So if an Afrikan decided to Abandon his ancestors, and adopt foreign ones, in the form of an alien Religion, that did not mean all of us should take him as a good example.

Thina imbali yethu isitshela ukuthi besisokwa ekadeni. Historians will agree with me those who write about world cultures, that the (Bantu) have been circumsizing long before Moses was known.

Sizavumelana lapha ukuthi by being asked to circumsize, labo ababengakwenzi, basebetshelwa ukuthi sebengathatha USIKO lwalabo abangcono kulabo.

Uyabona ke Khazi ukuthi yikukhonjiswa indlela zabanye lokhu.

Li Zwangendaba.

Baba Zwangendaba
mina angisazi ukuthi ngingabeka ngithini you quote exactly the text but awuqondisisi the very same text. akulakwengeza engikwenzile i took so much for granted ukuthi you understand i-layout ye narrative kagenesis.

ngiyazi uyananzelela amanarrative styles which were employed on those chapters 4 and 5. kusetshenziswe ifuturism lamaflashbacks amanengi. nanzelela chapter 5 of genesis is not a chronological event of chapter 4. chapter 5 is a book of the generations of Adam not what happened after chapter 4. and verse 25 of chapter 4 is juxtaposition look at the generation of Cain before verse 25ff comes Adam will be 3000 years then thus why Adams year were placed there to clear such a generalization.

thus why in 2Tim 2:15 admonishes us to study the word of God and refrain from jus reading if we really study the word prayerfully we wont have such misconceptions.

go back to chapter four the offerings were voluntary and God chose Abel's not that he was wroth with Cain He said nothing to them Cain had a chance to do it wright the next time but he hardened his heart and murdered his sibbling.
he was the first to initiate.

all those sacrificial rites were but micro cosims of the macro cosim the types of the Antitype the shadows of the Real. look on the day of the passover the Most Holy place's curtain rent in twain and the multitude behold the Ark of the Covenant and the furniture therein becoz Jesus the Altimate
the Antitype was offered on the cross and that was over.

angengezi baba Zwangendaba engikhuluma ngakho ngiyakwazi. God The Creator Is God and there is no otherway to Him except thru Jesus on the similar note the Apostole Paul poses a question which heavens themselves have no answer to Heb 2:3

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How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at first began to be spoken by the Lord,and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

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Zwangendaba
Ngwane!
Wena wekunene!
Wena waphakade!

Indlela oyibeka ngayo indaba yokholo lwethu thina sizwe esimpisholo, icacile njalo iquza umqondo wendoda.

Yebo uqinisile ukuthi ekuhlukanisweni kwezinkolo zezinhlanganhlanga nguMvelinqangi, nathi thina ndlu emnyama sanikezwa i-code number. Kwathiwa thina sizocela konke esikufunayo kuyena ngokuhlabela amadlozi, sishise imphepho, sibike kwaphansi abayibona abazothumela izikhalo zethu kuMvelinqangi.

Uqinisile njalo ma uthi igama Afrika lichaza i-half muntu, half nja. Lokhu kwaqhamuka no Augustus Caesar on his African campaign lapho eqala ukubona umuntu omnyama. Ngoba sacindezelwa abelungu, salivuma igama elithi Afrika, okungelona eliqondile. After i-continental drift, present day Africa was named Gondwanaland. That's the correct name.

Abelungu beza nokholo lwabo bazosiphoqela thina ukuthi masilahle olwethu oluncike kwabaphansi. Nebala nathi sakuvuma lokhu, ngokukhulu ukungacabangisisi. Kanti thina eyethu i-code number sayilahlelani ngoba yiyona uMvelinqangi asipha yona ekuhlukaniseni kwakhe izinkolo ngokobuhlanga, ekudaleni kwakhe abantu?

Nakanjalo mina ngiyabuza: nakhu esiKristwini kunabo St Barnabas, St Peter. Kungani ke bengekho o St Mngadi, St Mkhize no St Zuma? Kanti thina sizwe esimnyama sonani? SingabakaSathane na?

Abelungu bathi bona bamhlophe, thina simnyama. Konke okuhle bathi kumhlophe, noNkulunkulu kunye noJesu bathi umhlophe. Kodwa konke okubi bathi kumnyama, noSathane umnyama! Is this fair madoda?

Madoda, abelungu yibona abeza nenklese nenxoviyo ehlose ukusihlakaza phakathi ukuze badle umnotho wezwekazi likaGondwana. Basephuca ukuzibusa kwethu, bachitha amakhosi ethu, basenza izigqila zabo, basishaya nge-racial discrimination. Abelungu beza namaqhinga amabi okudunga izizwe, aziqhathe zivukelane zodwa. Abelungu beza no-divide and rule ukuze banqobe thina. Abelungu beza nebhayibheli, basiphoqela ukuthi silahle amasiko wethu. Inhloso yabo ngempela bekuyibushokobezi. Bangene ngendlovuyangena, bephethe ibhayibheli esandleni sokunene. Isibonelo salokhu u-Robert Moffat. Lendoda yeza ngamasu amabi obungani obungekho kokaMntungwa (uMzilikazi). Ekugcineni, abafowabo ka-Robert Moffat laba basebenzisa ubunhloli bakhe ukudla izwe lethu likaMthwakazi ngesibhamu. Kambe ukholo oluza nobubi obunjena lulungile?

Okokugcina, Zwangendaba: ngivuleke ingqondo kakhulu ngokulalela uThokozani Mandlenkosi Nene. Lendoda beyingumsakazi wodumo emsakazweni wesiZulu (Ukhozi FM). UNene uyibeka njengoba injalo indaba yezinkolo zabantu. Uyagqugquzela ethi masibuyele emasisweni thina sizwe esimnyama. Uyanxusa ethi masivale yonke lemikhokha ngokuphindela okholweni lwethu lwendabuko, lukaMvelinqangi - hhayi olwabelungu.

Madoda, akeyibekwe ogqokweni lendaba. Malivele iqiniso njengoba linjalo. Ningavumeli abelungu benicakafula ngento engekho. Abelungu baze ne-divide and rule, basiqhatha, saxabana siyizihlobo, sazondana. Abelungu bathole sakhile, sihloniphana kodwa bakuchitha konke lokhu ngobugebengu nobuqili babo.

Mzwakwethu limukani. Mazibuyele emasisweni.

uMntongenakudla kaNgogwane waKwaDlangezwa.
Inkwali yenkosi.

Inxangiphilile.
KwelikaMthaniya.