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#29077 - 12/14/04 10:50 AM SIPHEPHELI
Sirumula Offline
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Zithini babakhe,sengivakatshile ukuthi sizoxaba sichaye,sixhakule udaba lwamadreadlocks in relation to the Bible.oSamson babelamadreadlocks kumbe njani?how do you view a dreadlocked person at church,like a christian or what?mina ngingumuntu othanda ukufunda njalo lokulalela ukuthi omunye uthini,ngakho ngizofunda lapha topiya,let's hear it.lani lonke asiyisubuleni indaba nansi.

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#29078 - 12/15/04 12:16 AM Re: SIPHEPHELI
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Siyakwamukela wena ka mafenya tsila,

Angingeze ngikuphikise baba ngenwele zikaSamson. Ugwalo olungcwele lubika ukuthi zazizinde inwele zalubaba, ngoba wayengazange azigele kusukela ezalwa kungenxa yesivumelwano phakathi kukanina obeyinyumba loThixo. Kungakho kumbe zazizinde kuphela kumbe zaphothana lezo nwele okumqoka yikuthi bezingayisiso isiqokoqela kuloludatshana kodwa umninizo, ngendlela ayeziphethe ngayo, ubuntu kumbe ubunswelaboya bakhe, ulaka, ukuzigqaja lokuzithanda phezu kwakho konke.

Ube engubani uSamson? Ube eyisithunywa sikaThixo esizoqondisa abantwana bakaThixo indlela yokuzikhulula ebugqilini bamaFilistiya. Kodwa ke njengaye wonke umuntu wenyama wasuka wakhohlwa lapho okuvela khona amandla akhe lokubanguye kwakhe. Nxa sijulisa imicabango endatshaneni yakhe kuvela ukuthi, he was a selfish person, very short tempered, a bully, a fornicator or lover of women of loose morals, full of hatred, bent on senseless revenge, proud, stubborn albeit very wise, athletic and strong.

Okunengi ngalubaba yikuthi he was not a Godly character. But uThixo uvele udinga abanjengoSamson ukuthi baqhube umsebenzi wakhe ngoba as such bazavuna abanjengabo okuyiyo injongo kaThixo.

Isikhirisitu siyindlela yokuphila. Sigxila ikakhulu empilweni kaKhirisitu. Siqakathekisa ukuhlalisana kuhle labanye abantu, uzwelo losizo kwabaswelayo kumbe abancindezelweyo, uthando ezitheni, ukuhlonipha lokunye okunengi okuhle empilweni. Isikhirisitu akusiso sokukhethana ngebala, ngolimi, ngendabuko, ngesigqoko kumbe ngenwele. Isikhirisitu ngesokungazehlukanisi labanye ophila labo. Isikhirirsitu ngesokwamukela imibono yabanye ehlukile kweyakho. Isikhirisitu ngesokuzazi ukuba phambili kukaThixo mina lawe siyafana nje siyizoni ezidinga usindiso kumbe ubomvu, mnyama, nwelegundiwe kumbe phothiwe.

On a personal note, mina angiyi ecaweni ukuyacubungula abanye abantu. Okungenza ngiye ecaweni yikuswela usindiso engithemba wonke oya ecaweni yikho ayabe esiyakudinga. Ecaweni should be the only place where we can get out of politics and just be God's children. Kungalokho ke angingeni ezokubandlululana ngendlela zokugqoka and so on and so forth. Olenwele zakhe ezimfutshana lolezinde kubalungele bobabili ngoba akusikho okuyisiqokoqela sosindiso lokho kodwa okusenhliziyweni yenhliziyo. What am I saying here ya, when we go to church, we are searching for God'salvation which does not care ukuthi ezakho inwele zinjengezikaSamson kumbe uphucile njengoSiphepheli.

Okusalayo yikuthi ngihamba ngendlela eyahamba ngoKhirisitu na?

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#29079 - 12/27/04 08:39 AM Re: SIPHEPHELI
Mayisukela Offline
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Registered: 11/01/04
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Amen Amen amen.iza nazo sikuzwe,,,nxa kuliqiniso silandela,,,,,,singathini kambe ????,Sitshele mnumzana,sphakulele olakho, sihafulele lathi sibone ukuthi senzani emhlathini !!!! [naughty]

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#29080 - 12/29/04 05:50 PM Re: SIPHEPHELI
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Loc: ezintembeni
ngilalele khulumani

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#29081 - 01/06/05 07:21 AM Re: SIPHEPHELI
Sirumula Offline
Nduna

Registered: 10/18/03
Posts: 436
Loc: Bengo central place
Mnyaka omutsha bazalwaneni.Back in business,bengisayeku vacation but now sokuyizo lezo again,aziwe.Siphepheli,give thanx baba,u real took me through one of my best rides on the Bible train.Definitely,l managed to grab most of your information.
One thing that caught my attention is yr point,lapho othe wena awuvayi ecawe ukuyacubungula abanye kodwa uvayela ukusindiswa...true that,lami ngihambela umdali wami,never tried ukucubungula.kodwa iqiniso lawe uyalazi mfethu ukuthi omasantsho[women]mostly bathanda ukunyeya and they will always make a story out of nothing.Especially back home,when you go to church with yr dreadlocks,kusasa wonke umuntu uzoba ethetha ngawe...that's one of the double standards that have manifested the church society.l'm saying this ngoba have had the chance to compare the way churches receive um'rasta back home and the churches in the USA[some].Not to be myopic or anything,my church has accepted amarasta differently than back home.
So uthini uSamson had inwele ezingakanywayo[dreadlocks] even after he was converted?ngizalindela njalo.
sharp kunjalo.

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#29082 - 01/06/05 09:41 AM Re: SIPHEPHELI
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quote:
Originally posted by Sirumula:
[women]mostly bathanda ukunyeya and they will always make a story out of nothing.Especially back home,when you go to church with yr dreadlocks,kusasa wonke umuntu uzoba ethetha ngawe...that's one of the double standards that have manifested the church society.l'm saying this ngoba have had the chance to compare the way churches receive um'rasta back home and the churches in the USA[some].Not to be myopic or anything,my church has accepted amarasta differently than back home.

Whay you say above is partly true and partly dependant on an individual's perspective and self esteem. The devil works mostly and sadly very weell, through church members and if you have a faint heart uyatshiya ezokukhonza ngenxa yabazalwani. I believe wonke umuntu ongena ecaweni one way or another has identified some deficiency in him/herself. It is unfortunate though that once inside the heart becomes hardened and umuntu ecine esebheke ubulima babanye ekhohlwa obakhe. I was once pushed out of icawe by the same things that you mention above coupled with my poor self esteem. Now I know better that we all are in a hospital/asylum nxa sisecawe akukho ongcono.

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So uthini uSamson had inwele ezingakanywayo[dreadlocks] even after he was converted?
I doubt if the condition of Samson's hair had anything to do with his being converted or unconverted but it is an interesting view wothr investigating.

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#29083 - 01/07/05 09:51 AM Re: SIPHEPHELI
Sirumula Offline
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Registered: 10/18/03
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This is the Siphepheli l know,open-minded fellow who brings intelligent arguements not inhlamba obusufuna ukuziqala labozibani bani ngale ku topic "obhinya".Big up,ngikuzwa kahle and you are definitely right ukuthi the devil has managed to manevour through abazalwane and survive like a parasite as abazalwane start to lose focus echurch.l think the moment someone sees my dreadlocks echurch and start judging me,already that person is championing the wrong cause,"Judge not or else you will be judged,never underestimate a brother,my bredren Garnett Sillk chanted".l think abantu nje in general whether kuse cawe kumbe ngaphi izinto zokuphanga ukuba ngo judge bayazithanda.But umbhalo uyatsho ukuthi makungenziwa lokho ngoba ubusy ubona ububi bomunye obakho ke.
anyways,may you investigate that point which yoyu said is worth investigating if you can ngoba it's starting to be exciting and l'm greatly following the arguement and sengifunde okunengi.bayatsho bathi ibuzwa kwabaphambili.
woza lazo mzala.

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#29084 - 01/08/05 03:26 AM Re: SIPHEPHELI
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Bafowethu.

Angisoze ngiyingene indaba yenu, ngizayilandela kuphela.

ENGIFUNA UKUKUNYENYEZELA UBABA USIPHEPHELI YILOKHU OKUTSHIWO NGU SIRUMULA UKUTHI KANTI UBUSUNGENWE KUYINI KWENYE I "FORUM" LAMI NGIBONA ANGANI UBUSU ZONDILE KAKHULU.

Imnandi indaba yenu le bafowethu. Iyalandeleka njalo.

Akuhlale kunjalo.

Li Zwangendaba.

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#29085 - 01/11/05 06:59 AM Re: SIPHEPHELI
Sirumula Offline
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Zwangendaba wena kandaba oza lendaba engazondanga..hk hk ngena topi ungayilandeli from the sidelines....ungabi ngu referee...hk hk kwana topi endabeni ngiyazi ukuthi kunengi ongangifundisa.ngikulindile.
shutazi topiya.

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#29086 - 01/14/05 08:03 AM Re: SIPHEPHELI
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Registered: 07/29/04
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Loc: Hillbrow Inn
UMTHANDAZO WO-MZULU

"Baba, sicela ukuthi usithethelele amacala ethu yize singenawo. Njengoba wazi nawe ukuthi akusithina esibulele umlungu (uJesu), owayezele
ukuzofela abantu bonke emhlabeni ngoba ebathanda. Umlungu wabulawa abelungu abanye ngokumbethela esphambanweni.
Futhi akusithina esimthengisile umlungu Baba, wathengiswa ngu Judas Iskariot(ongumlumgu naye).

Futhi akusithina esamphika ukuthi siyamazi, waphikwa ngu Simon Petro (ongumlumgu naye). Futhi uPetro kanye noJudas akusiwona amaZulu ngoba
kuyaziwa ezweni lonke ukuthi thina amaZulu asinawo
amagama anjengalawo, amagama ethu ngo Sipho, oVusi, oNhlanhla, oThandiwe, oBongiwe, oDumisani kanye noLindiwe.

Konke lokhu kwenzeke eJerusalema futhi ngethemba ukuthi lendawo ikude kunathi futhi asiyazi. Izindawo esizazi kahle ukusuka le KwaZulu Natal
uyofika le eGoli nokuphindela emuva. Njengoba nawe ubona-ke nje Nkulunkulu ukuthi into yabelungu. Ngalokho baba sicela ngegama lakho elingcwele ukuthi ungas'faki ngoba thina njengabantu abamnyama asingeni ndawo kulento.

Kuze kube phakade!

AMEN ..."

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#29087 - 01/17/05 01:02 PM Re: SIPHEPHELI
cypepah Offline
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Registered: 12/03/02
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WAZE WAMUHLE UMTHANDAZO WAKHO SIYABONGA BABA ,PHELA LEZIZINTO ZAMASONTO AZISEBENZI LUTHO NGAMASIKO ABELUNGU.MA USAZI IHISTORY IYASHO NJE UKUTHI ABELUNGU BEZA E AFURIKA NALOMBHEDO WABO WE BHAYIBHILI,PHO NGOBA THINA BANTU ABAMNYAMA NGOBUDOMU SAKUTHATHELAPHEZULU.AYIKKHO NJE INDABA YAMASONTO YINSANGO YODWA [clap] [clap] SILAHLA AWETHU AMASIKO SILANDELANA LENTO ESINGAYAZ.

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#29088 - 01/20/05 10:07 PM Re: SIPHEPHELI
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Hk hk hk hk.

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#29089 - 01/21/05 02:00 AM Re: SIPHEPHELI
Sirumula Offline
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Registered: 10/18/03
Posts: 436
Loc: Bengo central place
Wahleka nje mfethu ungasatsho ukuthi uhlabuswa yintoni futhi?hk hk awula comment yini wena kaSiphepheli,uze uhleke nje?akubuye lazo sizwe.

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#29090 - 01/21/05 06:32 AM Re: SIPHEPHELI
Zwangendaba Offline
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Registered: 04/27/03
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Loc: New York, New York, USA
Bafowethu.

hk hk hk, nkk shhh.

Li Zwangendaba.

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#29091 - 01/24/05 10:47 PM Re: SIPHEPHELI
Sirumula Offline
Nduna

Registered: 10/18/03
Posts: 436
Loc: Bengo central place
aaah lami sengiyahleka manje kukhanya wonk'muntu ufile ngokuhleka lana ekhaya...yini Zwangendaba...hk hk hk.

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#29092 - 02/02/05 11:37 PM Re: SIPHEPHELI
cypepah Offline
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Registered: 12/03/02
Posts: 66
Loc: kobhuleya
ube ujesu ngumuntomnyama usatan ngumlungu bengingakholwa.ube labo abazibiza ngobukheresitu abahlupeki nami bengingabangomunye wabo,pho ke sisokola sonke ngoba sibanyama singabakasatan,abakajesu abasokoli ngoba abawalahlangamasiko abo [Big Grin] ,thina ngokuzenza abalandeli bento esingayazi siphuma phambili ngokuhlupheka [wavey] ,kulokuba siphume phambili njengokukholwa kwethu esinakho.yisiqalekiso kubabusatan lomakatan ngokumphika bona abelungu bakubeka kahle kwacaca kubani lobani ukuthi owethubaba ngusatan,wathi uBobMarley as long you are a blackman you a an African so as long as umnyama uzohlalusemnyameni [kill] [clap]

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#29093 - 02/03/05 07:01 AM Re: SIPHEPHELI
Ndumshy Offline
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Registered: 07/29/04
Posts: 201
Loc: Hillbrow Inn
Mina anginayo inkinga nalabo abakithi abakholelwa kuJesu. Kodwa ngine nkinga nalaba abakholelwa ukuthi umuntu omnyama waqala ukwazi ngoNkulunkulu ngokufika kwabelungu lapha eAflika. Amanga ke lawo. In all our languages (ngisho isintu, anginandaba nesitshabi) there always has existed a name for God, uThixo, uNkulunkulu, uQamata etc. Lokho kungitshela ukuthi thina singabantu abamnyama, we have always believed in there is higher entity somewehre up there, but we communicated with him through our ancestors, as opposed to uJesu. Kuyacelwa nama kuthethelwa amadlozi ukuthi leso zicelo zethu, zidluliselwe kwaba phambili/phezulu kuna labo abalele ubuthongo obungapheli esibaziyo. Ngalokho ngithi mina ukukholelwa emadlozini akusho ukithi umuntu akakholelwa kuThixo. Yindlela nje angafaniyo nobuKreste.
uThixo, uNkulunkulu, uQamata, anibusise.

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#29094 - 02/03/05 11:02 AM Re: SIPHEPHELI
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To a greater degree the African tradition/culture/religion is seen as tatamount to uncivilisation, now, not only by the whites but by the Africans themselves. I want to know the criteria of evaluating religions. i want to evaluate all religions of the world and see where my African tradition falls.
Religions or way of life from the East has been receiving the same kind of disdain as most of our African traditons do now, but those who have been to the white man's world know how much the so called "alternative therapies" has become a buzzy word, and it is also interesting to note how much Chinese, Indian and Japanese food is being liked by those who despised it before. What i am trying to say is that to be noticed and respected and acceptable as you are, begins by you loving what you are, sticking with your guns in the face of adversity and never relinquish your position except for the better ones. One day the world will look to Africa for all kinds of help, because for a better future to come Africa will still remain a natural habitat whilst the whole world goes artificial and out of themselves. Open minded whites hate blacks who opt for whiteness and despise what they are. Open minded whites hate blacks whose measure of civilisation is always what the western world does, and therefore copy it.

What about an open minded blackman? does he see African religions or traditions as civilisation?

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#29095 - 02/03/05 11:58 AM Re: SIPHEPHELI
Mbiko Offline
Sakhamuzi

Registered: 09/20/04
Posts: 69
Loc: Kezi
Hk hk hk
asazi madoda

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