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#30325 - 08/11/05 04:33 PM IMatonto lesitshabi: isitshabi leMatonto
Siphepheli Offline
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Registered: 05/27/04
Posts: 741
Loc: Khonaph'ya Enkangala
Bandla likaMthwakazi,

Lingixolele bakithi kodwa ngilentshiseko enkulu ngobudlewlwano lobu: IMatonto(sp?) lesitshabi: isitshabi leMatonto(sp?).

Lingasiza lingicazulele lehlukanise imbambo lomgogodla. Kuyangethusa izikhathi zonke ukuzwa leliqembu litshabiza kulo umsakazo. (Ngingazi kumbe ngitshiywe yisikhathi kwelikaTshisa?)

Engikudingayo yikuthi, kungani sebeheleza ngesitshabi, njalo bangena ngaliphi ebuThwakazini bethu lapha, ntshumayelo bani abasinikeza yona ngesitshabi, kuswelekeni baze bakhethe ukusihlabelela ngesitshabi? Yikho esikufisa kwenzakale na? Oro izi theya samuthingi ayi emu misingi?

Ngizaxolisa njalo bakithi kodwa kuyangitshukumisa lokhu, ngingazi kumbe ngingedwa?

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#30326 - 08/11/05 11:13 PM Re: IMatonto lesitshabi: isitshabi leMatonto
Msupatsila Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 04/07/05
Posts: 656
Loc: Solongo Life
Kanti vele bona bengobani amabizo abo?

Mhlawumbe ngabetshabi abakhulela ko Bulawayo.

Lami angazi wethu. Okokutshiywa yisikhathi akungeni lapha. Isikhathi sani? INgani lasebalungwini kulokhe kukhona okokuthi abanye bazibiza ngokuthi bangobani.

Just check ku Google ubone how the Geordies and the Mackems relate. Vele ngubani lowotshisa?

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#30327 - 08/12/05 02:32 AM Re: IMatonto lesitshabi: isitshabi leMatonto
Gxozindenda Offline
Mafikizolo

Registered: 12/30/04
Posts: 2
Loc: Switzerland
OMatonto ngabakoMthwakazi mpela, hayi kancane. UmfokaMasuku lomfokaMangena. Icassete yakuqala "Umendo" yiyo okwakumele idl'ubhedu. Wawubona ukuthi abafana sebeqhubeka lapho uMajayivana, umfokaTshuma( uGolide) lapho atshiya khona. Leyo elandelayo, elengoma zolimi lwaseMpumalanga, njengo"Tobofara" hayi babesebelahlekile abafana. Babezama ukwenza njenge Boys 2 Men bahlanganisa lesitshabi. Babe sebesweleni? Bona bathuleleni belamathalenta angaka omculo?

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#30328 - 08/12/05 09:17 AM Re: IMatonto lesitshabi: isitshabi leMatonto
Dokotela Offline
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Registered: 05/11/04
Posts: 1298
Loc: Emkhathini
Mina, i beilive ukuthi amasingazi amanengi abona angani usapho lwesitshabini yilo oluthengayo amadlalade. Kusobala ukuthi bakhengelela abakibo emanzini.

We do have afew exceptions like, uMajayivana labanye abayingcosana.

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#30329 - 08/12/05 10:52 AM Re: IMatonto lesitshabi: isitshabi leMatonto
Homer Offline
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Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 40
Loc: Edeni
Hatshi bandla, ngiyaluzwa utshiseko lwenu, kanti ngolwami njalo. Iqiniso ngelithi ukhetho lwabo lokuthi bacule langesitshabi is an economic matter. Njengoba etshilo omunye wethu ngaphezulu, asazeni ukuthi lanxa becula kamnandi nje, kabazakali kangako ngaphandle kwelikaLobathi, kasikhumbuleni njalo ke ukuthi abetshabi benza nxa ngingaphambanisi, 80% of the population. Lanxa sithenga njani amadlalade abahlabeleli bakaMthwakazi abetshabi balakho ukuthenga more than us, kusiya ngenombolo zabo kungakho ke ukhetho lwabo is just an economic matter more than ukulahleka kumbe ukukhohlwa lapho abavela khona.

Mina ngakhulela ekhaya kodwa nanamhlanje isitshabi kangisazi, ngoba ngala lokulufunda ngoba bona bengafuni ukufunda olwethu ulimi!

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#30330 - 08/13/05 03:54 PM Re: IMatonto lesitshabi: isitshabi leMatonto
Ingqwele Offline
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Registered: 07/07/05
Posts: 47
Loc: Emganwini
Mnumzana Homer; kungaba yi-economic choice ukuthanda kwabo ukucula langesi*****, kodwa yazi phela ukuba into engahlabusiyo vele kayihlabusi. Ubufebe yibufebe lanxa singathi hatshi uMaziani ubeselela abantwabakhe abatshiywa nguyise. Bayalahleka impela labo oMatonto! Yini bengcolisa amazwi abo? Nxa bebona sengathi uMthwakazi uyingcosana lapha kungani benga-makethi izingoma zabo laseZansi?

Ngake ngaxoxa loJeys(Majahawodwa Ndlovu) ngimkhuthaza ukuthi angalingi langelinye ilanga ukufaka igama elilodwa lebu***** emculweni wakhe(ngoba phela lami ngifana lani bakwethu kulesisimo), hayi-ke wathembisa okaNdlovu ethi vele uyasizila yena isitshabi. Bheka iyaphumelela kahle linsizwa yakoNdlovu, pho uMatonto engehlulwa kuyini? Uyasidelela kabi; use "hlafun' itshingam'esontweni!" [Embarrassed]

Singaxubanisa izingoma zethu lezesi***** isiphetho siyocula isi***** 100%, ngifunga abakwethu abalele ebhalagwe! Abafunde ukuzigqaja ngokuhlabela okungela ngitsho lokukhwehlela kwesitshabi abahlabeleli bakoMthwakazi!

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#30331 - 08/13/05 04:22 PM Re: IMatonto lesitshabi: isitshabi leMatonto
SINATHAMAHEWU Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/27/02
Posts: 632
Loc: The Republic of Mthwakazi
This is what Cont. Mhlanga now does. Uyaxubanisa amaplays akhe lesitshabi and thina abanye no longer khwabitha his plays! The reason for this yikuthi he made a big round turn, hooked up with the then information minister and political turncoat Jonathani and waqala ukuthengisa our culture and diluted it all for getting his plays kuma-Airwaves of Zanu PF. He followed Jonathani in his mission to destroy our culture by diluting it with a culture from the north.

I used to be his fan but I am no longer!

OMathonto labo have this 'look North' or 'look Mpumalanga' policy which they believe is their saviour in the music industry yet they have a massive market in South Africa, Swaziland, Zambia and Malawi. There are a lot of peope abakhuluma ulimi lwethu in these countries.

So the idea that we are a minority only exist in a state of mind and is also sadly re-inforced by the colonial bounderies that were left by the colonialists! We are not a minority! Music has no bounderies.

This is another example of a lack of psychological sovereignty on the part of our people and their belief system.

Soze sifunde nini njalo iyoze ilwe nini impi?

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#30332 - 08/13/05 05:34 PM Re: IMatonto lesitshabi: isitshabi leMatonto
Ndumshy Offline
Sikhulu

Registered: 07/29/04
Posts: 201
Loc: Hillbrow Inn
Sinathaobesintu bro wami
Lino msoco futhi liyakha ivangeli lakho lokuthi kumele abantu bakithi bazikhulule emiqondweni njalo behlukane nokuzibandakanya naleliya lizwekazi eliyi Mzimatshe. Ngaphandle kokuthi wakhele khona ngale eZimbagwe ruins, nawe nje wakithi ngifisa ukubana ukhiphe lo"from Zimbagwe" ubusufaka uMthwakazi phansi kwemibhalo yakho.

Laba oMatonto bona sebezenzela okuka Jikajazi Majikaduze belandela izimali zabe tshabi. Hayi suka!

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#30333 - 08/13/05 05:52 PM Re: IMatonto lesitshabi: isitshabi leMatonto
msakazi Offline

Sakhamuzi

Registered: 05/13/04
Posts: 77
Loc: London, UK
In his last CD that I know of, released in 2001, Matonto issued 8 tracks. Two of those are shona and 6 Ndebele. So to put things in perspective, one would think from reading the above inputs that he now only sings in shona!

Also is it not ironic that he has produced a number 1 song and that song happens to be shona. The lesson I get from him is that Ndebele's are very slow to support their own when he does right and quick to criticise when the percieve wrong.

Calvin "Matonto" Gudu has done a lot of good in that he is one of our foremost artist in present time. Njalo lojaha usize abanye abafana lomfowabo uKhaleb Masuku ocula iGospel kunye leqembu leZilwane.

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#30334 - 08/13/05 06:46 PM Re: IMatonto lesitshabi: isitshabi leMatonto
SINATHAMAHEWU Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 02/27/02
Posts: 632
Loc: The Republic of Mthwakazi
Ndumshy,

Ngiyezwa ngegama leZimbagwe. It might be controversial and it might seem in contradition with my political views about our situation in that country for me to say I come from 'Zimbagwe' to some, but for me to have it there makes it a constant reminder to me that this black colonialist Zimbagwe will need to be fought against by our people to gain their freedom. Zimbagwe is the black colonialist enemy for me.

I will therefore change it when Mthwakazi gains her liberation and when Mthwakazi has succesfully liberated herself from Zimbagwe!

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#30335 - 08/14/05 08:30 PM Re: IMatonto lesitshabi: isitshabi leMatonto
mninimuzi Offline
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Registered: 08/12/05
Posts: 457
Loc: EMNQAMLEZWENI
LAMI KE LABABAFANA BEMATHONTO BAMANE BANGINENGE UMA SEBECULA LESO SI***** SABO.NGIYAWUTHANDA MPELA UMCULO WABO KODWA NGISUKA NGIZWE AMATHAMBO OMZIMBA WAMI ECOBEKA NXA SEBEFAKA ISIRARARA.KODWA LIYAKHUMBULA NA UKUTHI UMAJAYIVANA WAKE WAMA UKUCULA? ESINYE SEZIZATHO KWAKUYIKUTHI ABANTU BAKITHI ABAFUNI UKUMSAPOTA.ABETSHABI BONA BATHENGA AMACD KAMAFUMO LABOMTUKUDZI,KODWA BANGAKI ABALAWO AMACD KAMAGEE?AMAKHABOTHI AGCWELE IMITHETSHELWA KUPHELA.

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#30336 - 08/20/05 08:07 PM Re: IMatonto lesitshabi: isitshabi leMatonto
mathimula Offline
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Registered: 04/28/03
Posts: 132
Loc: canada
Nangu u RAMADU bantu bakithi uhwatshe umratha.
Asimsapoteni njalo sikholise ingoma zakhe. Sengiyiwodile eyami

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#30337 - 08/21/05 11:16 AM Re: IMatonto lesitshabi: isitshabi leMatonto
soweto Offline
Sikhulu
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Registered: 11/02/03
Posts: 245
Loc: emazweni abanikazi
Umthengisi ngumthengisi bafowethu, ungaze uthengise umfowenu nge 5cents omunye ethengise umalumakhe nge 3dollars kimi lonke lingabathengisi.
Njengoba esitsho umathimula lalela idlalade elithi "kunjalo" elivela ejaheni lakithi elisakhulayo uRamadu.
Idlalade leli alidiingi sitshabi kumbe abetshabi kodwa ubunandi obukilo kanye leqiniso elikhulunywa lapho lizakwenza uziqhenye ukuba ngumthwakazi.
leli gama elithi Ramadu kumele liligcine engqndweni zenu lizamzwela khatshana lomjida

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#30338 - 08/30/05 04:02 PM Re: IMatonto lesitshabi: isitshabi leMatonto
jimbozi Offline
Ngqwele

Registered: 10/29/02
Posts: 108
Loc: uk
the thing with most influential people from home is that they take odinary people for granted. i believe that Matonto has been associated with this forum for a couple of years now. what i am not sure about is ubudlelwane bakhona bungakanani. maybe yibo osibalukhulu lapha or maybe there is a story behind it all. what do you make of dem Matonto guys coming up with a Ndebele album and not getting nough sales on it. Was it crap one might ask?. Hell no, they were not given that very platform abangayinikeza ku zhakata etc. linanzelele uEzra kasekho eZBC. so theoriticaly there aint no dj olamainterest abo at zbc whatever. uMalachi cannot do it on his own. Besides the guys being amashort by birth i got nothing against them but sorry im not going to buy their cd.

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#30339 - 09/09/05 02:21 PM Re: IMatonto lesitshabi: isitshabi leMatonto
mkhize ozikhizayo Offline
Nduna

Registered: 05/30/04
Posts: 349
Loc: Emaguswini
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Sinathaobesintu bro wami
Lino msoco futhi liyakha ivangeli lakho lokuthi kumele abantu bakithi bazikhulule emiqondweni njalo behlukane nokuzibandakanya naleliya lizwekazi eliyi Mzimatshe. Ngaphandle kokuthi wakhele khona ngale eZimbagwe ruins, nawe nje wakithi ngifisa ukubana ukhiphe lo"from Zimbagwe" ubusufaka uMthwakazi phansi kwemibhalo yakho.

Laba oMatonto bona sebezenzela okuka Jikajazi Majikaduze belandela izimali zabe tshabi. Hayi suka! amazwi akho athophele mfowethu ngani ngoba umuntu ukabili.Kungcono uhlale esintwini ukwenzela ukuthi isintu sakho sihlale sijulile hatshi ukuthi sizwe usuculela abantwabethu ngento ezizobaphica.Ma engowetshabi kaqubeke ngetshabi ngoba ngiyathanda ukuthi abantwabami bengalahlekelwa yisintu sikamthwakazi.


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mthwakazi for life

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#30340 - 09/09/05 04:20 PM Re: IMatonto lesitshabi: isitshabi leMatonto
Sheik Mthembo Offline
Ndunankulu

Registered: 12/27/02
Posts: 629
Loc: The People's Republic of Mthwa...
Mahlabezulu,

Kahle siyihlahlule ngesineke indaba le. Umbuzo wakuqala yilo: uMathonto is he a good musician? Kimina the answer is yes. Next question: Is he right to mix amanzi lamafutha? The answer is no! Amanzi lamafutha kakuhlangani otherwise his music igrand kabi and he has an excellent voice!

But then comes Ramadu!

This guy will be Mthwakazi's icon if he continues ngendlela anyova ngayo. No capitulation or dilution of Mthwakazi's message. Ibuya injalo nje. Ongafuniyo uyekela!

I am buying his CD soon!

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