Mina sizani bo baka-mthwazi.
Ngithandane lale ntombi ngendlela enhle ebukekayo,kuthe emva komnyaka sabe sisehlukana ngendaba zobuzanka bakhe,kodwa ke sakulungisa ngoba sasithandana kakhulu sibili.Nanko ke sithe nxa sesindawonye futhi,umzawami weza egijimi wathi kimi,"yeyi wena
usufuna ukuyakudla imisila yempankwa okwesibili na?,phuma lapho wenzani,usudle lenwele zika nina ezasese".

yeyi ngithe ngisizwa lokhu ngahle ngayekela ukuyambona.kodwa khona kusase khona uthando,sengizamile ukudlulela phambili kodwa kuyala.Sizanini lina elibadala,lazini ngakho konke lokhu

Indaba enjenge yakho iyahlupha ukuthi uthole usizo kwabanye ngoba ixhumanisa wena laye lowo ntombazana.
Kuke kwenzakala komunye umngane wami, ngathi kuye akahlukane lontombazana wakhe ngoba ngisazi ukuthi lowo ntombazana wayefeba aze achaye ikuku njenge mpahla eziwashiwe. Emva kwesikhathi ngakhanya sengingumuntu omubi ngoba wacina emthatha lowo ntombazana, babese ngasangi khulumisi sengingu diyabholosi - ngokukhuluma iqiniso kundaba zothando lwabo.

Njengoba utshilo wena ukuthi lowo ntombazana ulobuzanka, uyabuthanda na ubuzanka lobo ngaze buphinde buqubuke njalo ngesikhathi esizayo? Nxa ubuthanda buyela kuye.

Mina ngibona kuyinto eqakathekileyo ukuthi nxa ubona umuntu engathi akakulungelanga, wena ulesifiso sokuthi lakhe umuzi, uhle uvele uhlukane laye ngoba nxa selike lashada kuba lenhlupho eziningi kakhulu.

Uyabona lami ngivumelana laweDokotela.Kanengi ukungenela inhlupho zasethandweni kuyakhathaza ngoba kukutshiya esikhaleni.Ungamkhuthaza umuntu kodwa ma esefitizelwe phakathi kwekuku lenqgondo ziyabe zingasathathi kahle.Uhle afafaze atshele lowo dali wakhe ukuthi ebona nje kulohlupho ethandweni lwabo lapha,kungenxa kaDokotela onguye ongusatane.
Wena Makhinte into enginga kukhuthaza ngayo yikuthi ma lelizanka likwehlula,dinga elinye, ngoba kukhanya yiwo umhlobo owuthandayo.
Kodwa ke yazi ngaphakathini kwakho ukuthi amazanka avele yiwo amnandi ukwedlula laba abazinzileyo.Yikho ke limuka.Inengi labotopi litshiya imizi ichitheka liduha labo laba onondindwa abalobuzanka.Ma ufuna ukwakha umuzi ozahlonitshwa ngabantu,dinga umuntu ubusujola lalaba osisi abangaziphathanga grand eceleni njengawo wonke amadoda athetheyo.

Ngiyabonga kakhulu bakithi,sengizathi ukuzingela
lezi ezithobileyo.

Bafowethu.

Ngincindezele:
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Ngithandane lale ntombi ngendlela enhle ebukekayo,kuthe emva komnyaka sabe sisehlukana ngendaba zobuzanka bakhe,kodwa ke sakulungisa ngoba sasithandana kakhulu sibili.Nanko ke sithe nxa sesindawonye futhi,umzawami weza egijimi wathi kimi,"yeyi wena
usufuna ukuyakudla imisila yempankwa okwesibili na?,phuma lapho wenzani,usudle lenwele zika nina ezasese".
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Uthe wena Makhinte, lehlukana ngendaba zobuzanka bakhe. Labuye labuyelelana. Wayesebekele na lobo buzanka??? Angitsho uyatsho ukuthi " kodwa ke sakulungisa ngoba SASITHANDANA KAKHULU SIBILI"???

UYABONA KE UKUTHI UTHANDO LWEHLULA KONKE OKWAKUNGALUNGANGA.

Ubuye uthi wena Makhinte, Selithandane lehlula ubuzanka bakhe, kweza UMZAWAKHO. Usekutshela ngemipankwa lenwele zikanyokozala? Loyo Mzawakho wayemncedisa na untombazana wakho ekuphekeni lezo zinto??? WAZE NJANI???

MINA NGOMBONO WAMI NGITHI NGUYE UMUNTU OMUBI LOYO.

Uyakudiliza ezenza okwakhayo. AWUBUBONANGA UBUZANKA OKWESIBILI NGEMVA KOKUBUYELELANA. USUTHATHA NGELIKA "NGIZWA BESITHI".

Ngengxoxo yakho, you gave her a second chance and she took it. Manje nxa ungakabuboni ubuzanka besibili, losa lokho okutshiwo ngumzawakho. Akasoke azokwakhela umuzi loyo mzawakho.

IMIZI SIYIBONA IMI NJE, IQINA NGOTHANDO HATSHI NGAMA HUNGA-HUNGA IZINTO ZE SANANGAPHO. AKHANI IMIZI BANTU.

Wena mzawakhe, nxa ubona uze uyebona lalapho kuphekelwa khona inwele zasese lemipankwa eLIKHWENI lomfowenu, kubonisa ukuthi uyaloya lawe ngoba ohamba ebusuku nguye ongakubona lokhu osukulayela umfowenu eceleni. UMUBI.

Li Zwangendaba.

Ngiyajabula kakhulu ngoba uMninimuzi, uhle wathi bhadla. Dinga izanka mfowethu uthathe ubusuqhubeka ngokudinga isibothwanyana sakho sokujola njengabo bonke ospoksi. Ixhakela livele limnandi, kukanti liyindlela yokuchitha isikhathi.

Nxa kusenza mfowethu, ngabe uyali pensela izanka lelo lize liwukhombe umuzi olotshwala, kumele ulinathele iviceroy ukuze ungatsori tshophaz. Kuzamale umkhuhluze njenge sgubhu sotshwala, umgcwalisa inhlanyelo yonkendawo. Nxa sekunjalo akasoze akushayinele futh'.

Bafowethu.

Doc, hk hk hk hknkggghhhh. Sibali lapha ungibulele ngembambo.

Kanti awukwazi ukuthi nxa umzondele umutu usithi NGIZAMLUNGISA LAMUHLA, yikho lapho akholisa khona. Topi, hk hk hk hk.

HAPPY NEW YEAR.

Li Zwangendaba.

Kunjani mfo Doc,ikusizile yini iJack Daniels ngikhisimusi hk hk hk

Ayisikho kuphuza lokho, nginathe ngaze ngahlanza yazi. Ngipensele odade ngaze ngavuvuka ikhanda le pensel-machine.

Fortunately, bengiko Bulawayo Khami bar, Visions, Brass lase Bulldogs.

Nginathe i Uozo, Black labeli, Sateu, Henessy, Mainstay le Bols. Ayikho i Jack Daniels ekhaya. Ngiyazi some of you are missing home bafowethu. Uxolo ukulikhumbuza ifokolo ezi grand.

Bafowethu.

Eeiiish! Isifokolo S'nice mani. GUDU NYUYELE.

Li Zwangendaba.

bakithi lets have more problems ebulenjini we will learn alot noma nje sinekho kusame situation.
hola 7

Bafowethu labo dade ngehlelwe yisiga esingitshiye ndebephansi, ngenxa yenja ehlose ukungigcoba ngodaka.

Kukhona untombazana omuhle okwesabekayo, angake ngazwanana laye ngendlela ezimnandi. Sakholisa lalowo ntombazana waze wafisa ukuthi ngabe uyathola indandatho kubudlelwano bethu. Untombazana lo usebenza enkampanini yase Nile River, yikho ke ngangitholakala kwezinye insuku ngikhame amanamnede ngentamo ngilubhekise khona.

Njengoba ngike ngatsho, umzukulu lo muhle angathi wazalwa yedwa, inhlamvu zamehlo akhe zingathi ziyakhanyisela, kuthi ijwabu lakhe lubutshelezi angathi lusana, amathangazi akhe abumbeke kahle besekuthi amabele akhe makhudlwana angagcwala umganu oyingubhe. Ngangimhlonipha kakhulu luntombazana okokuthi ngitsho lokumpensela ngangi ngamkhothamisi.

Ngithe ngivungula ngezikhathi zantambama ngolwesihlanu ngathola umbiko kumakhalekhukhwini othi "Am Forwading 2 u shotly a msg sent 2 me... just do me a favor.. i dnt wnt ppl turning my fon into a plaything".
Mina njengomuntu obengacabangeli ukuthi kungabe kukubi ngavele ngamphendula ngathi, "pls clarify, i do not get the mnng of ur msg"
Wahle vele waphendula ngombiko wakhona othi "U Nile gal let my zmbwe man alone. No wonder he laughs wth pals tht u r so loose he go b4 u knw his name u wre al ova hm, sims u pick men in night clubs. Plz dnt brng us ugdn diseases, am tired of ur tsts on his phone. Stop it pliz"

Ngamphendula mina ngathi, "wat's all this hogwash?"

Engakangiphenduli ngavele ngashay' ucingo, ngambuza ukuthi kwenzakalani. Wachasisa ke yena ukuthi uthole lowo mbiko uvela kumuntu angamaziyo yikho ke ungithumele ukuthi ngazi ukuthi kukhona umuntu alwa laye ngegama lami.

Ngavele ngabanjwa yi stresi.

1. Umuntu omthumele umbiko lowo angimazi.
2. Inombolo zikantombazana we Nile efonini yami zifakwe ngegama elithi Elliot K (ukwenzela ukuthi ngenze imdlalo yami ngoku fihlekileyo)
3. Imbiko yonke engangiyi thola ivela kuntombazana we Nile ngangihle ngivele ngiyicitshe kumakhalekhukhwini.
4. Umuntu owathumela lo mbiko kukhanya ulolwazi ukuthi untombazana lo ngowase "Nile River", njalo ulolwazi nge nombolo zakhe zocingo.
5. Uyangazi njalo, ngoba yimi ngedwa engangi gebha umzukulu, njalo ngiphuma kwaMgaxaland.
6. Angikhombanga ntombazana lapha.

Umzukulu uzonde, udla amalahle ngoba ebona angathi kule siqiniseko kumbiko wakhona ngami. Sike sazama ukushaya inombolo lapho okuvele khona lowo mbiko kodwa kukhanya ucishiwe lowo makhalekhukhwini.

Ngenzeni? Ngidinge inyanga yini? Ngilokhe ngifisa ukuthi ngidlelane laye umzukulu lo.

Eish ... inzima eyakho...ngizoyitshiyela abadala.

I have a number of alternative solutions to yo problem Dok
Number 1
Slightly tilt the tables against umzukulu. Tell her that yu received a strange anonymous call. The stranger, among other things said that “Ufuna umuntu aze athi bhadla ukuthi akasakufuni, yu should read in btwn lines. Tell her ukuthi from that yu are no longer sure of what is taking place and yu believe this cud be an artifice which she is part of just to find reason to terminate the relationship. This will divert her mind from that of feeling like she has been wronged and continuously accusing yu to being defensive & wanting to convince yu ukuthi akunjalo. And wena ma etraya ukuchasisa insist on her giving yu reasons why she wud want to part with yu. Nxa sekunjalo the ground will be square, and yu will see how to win her heart again.
I know yu are probably saying “But Gas umkhenyevuli lo angabuye aphinde, mhlawumbe ngeqhinga elitshiyeneyo iyozala nkomoni” Do not worry yu will cross the river when yu get there. Uba eza again it’s increasing the risk of being caught on his/her part. Meanwhile lawe as a man it gives yu a chance to look into the matter kungela pressure yokwesaba ukwaliwa.

Number 2
Dok accept tshomi, it could be fruits of yo labor. Funda isigcawu esingaphansi. Ngisicaphune kwesinye sezilobo zakho. So mnewethu it could one of those guys abatshiya I-apparatus zivuvukile.



Number 3
Hamaba esitolo Dokotela, Thenga izicathulo ezimhlophe (uba ungabalenhlanhla uthole ezingo gumu azazisidla ubhedu kuma 80s,) kumbe ama supper pro. Uwadekhorethe kancane ngomabrosi, ibhulugwe elide elibomvu, iyembe elithanga elamabala amnyama, ibhanti elimhlophe, ithayi ye satin material eluhlaza okwesibhakabhaka, amasokisi aluhlaza, amagogorosi amnyama khaca amakhulu kulawo wonke, lecklace eyi-chain eqatha.. Thatha limpahla uyigqoke, utshaye umzukulu nge-surprise visit. Uhambe esambeni sebhulugwe sangemuva umphathele ama-jaspro macimbi. (ngizwa kuthiwa abomango wakwabo abawathandinje). Uthutsha laphaya Dok l can assure you ukuthi umzukulu uyohle aginye amathe, (Ngikuncwebe indlebe: Phela intombi zakomthwakazi ezikhomba empumalanga zinqotshwa yiyo le I-athaya). Wena ke ungamniki itshansi yokukuncoma. Hatshi. Straight away wohle umkhothamise, (Kanti wesabani Dok ukumkhothamisa). Umbambise phansi ngezandla. Ma uqeda lapho umqhubele amacimbi lwawana, Uyahle atshaywe yis’thongwana phinde akhulume nga sms angaqedakaliyo.

Number 3
Limuka udade lwana owebheya. Ngileqiniso nguye. To discipline her, mziswe lokho akukhalelayo. Yu won’t lose anything.

Number 4
Present the truth as it is to her as yu may probably have done by now. Do not panic, Pliz condition yoself for any outcome. And respect whatever decision she makes about the whole matter

Bafowethu.
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Ngincindezele: >Number 3
Hamaba esitolo Dokotela, Thenga izicathulo ezimhlophe (uba ungabalenhlanhla uthole ezingo gumu azazisidla ubhedu kuma 80s,) kumbe ama supper pro. Uwadekhorethe kancane ngomabrosi, ibhulugwe elide elibomvu, iyembe elithanga elamabala amnyama, ibhanti elimhlophe, ithayi ye satin material eluhlaza okwesibhakabhaka, amasokisi aluhlaza, amagogorosi amnyama khaca amakhulu kulawo wonke, lecklace eyi-chain eqatha.. Thatha limpahla uyigqoke, utshaye umzukulu nge-surprise visit. Uhambe esambeni sebhulugwe sangemuva umphathele ama-jaspro macimbi. (ngizwa kuthiwa abomango wakwabo abawathandinje). Uthutsha laphaya Dok l can assure you ukuthi umzukulu uyohle aginye amathe, (Ngikuncwebe indlebe: Phela intombi zakomthwakazi ezikhomba empumalanga zinqotshwa yiyo le I-athaya). Wena ke ungamniki itshansi yokukuncoma. Hatshi. Straight away wohle umkhothamise, (Kanti wesabani Dok ukumkhothamisa). Umbambise phansi ngezandla. Ma uqeda lapho umqhubele amacimbi lwawana, Uyahle atshaywe yis’thongwana phinde akhulume nga sms angaqedakaliyo. <
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Lapha Gas ungibulele ngembambo.

GUDU ADIVAYISI. But DEADLY.

Li Zwangendaba.

Ok,mina ngilodaba olungihluphe iminyaka elitshumi manje njalo ilokhu iqhubeka isiya phambili so ngicela aba serious bangisize coz this is NO joke bakaMthwakazi.

Isithandwa sami kusukela eHigh school sangitshiya after a 3yr relationship,lokhu kwakungenxa ye pressure from abazali bethu both,vele kwakulenkulumo ezimbi kabi -si ngavunyelwa ukubonana.Kwathi linye langa,he broke the news to me that usemithisile but wayengamthandi lowo sisi,well kwakungasela mayenza.Ngakibo babevele be ngabantu besintu too much no wonder we had problems ku relationship yethu.I had to let him go..we remained friends,he was forced to marry the poor girl.Mina I moved on with my life,went college etc but he kept track of me always,ehlala engitshela lokhu la lokhu,lets elope,I need you in my life blah blah blah but um NO fool so I decided to leave the country.

Now,udubo lwami nantu la-from the time I arrived in this country i see him in my dreams almost every night.kuyangethusa,i almost told umama but i felt embarrassed coz she was going to think ngisamfuna lo mfana but it is not the case coz vele kangisela ndaba laye as he is married.Okungimangalisayo yikuthi,angimcabangi emini but ngimbona (emaphupheni)dreams,isikhathi esinengi mina yimi engifuna ukukhuluma laye yena ecatsha engafuni ukungibona,kumbe ngibona abangakibo bonke bengihlasela ngezinhlamba-unina engikhangela kubi kumbe yena engibalekela!!!!!!!Now what the hell is this???????It scares me coz sometimes ngiyake ngithi mhlawumbe he needs my help but i am not there for him!what ?yini le?? kungani ngamonela or something but he was unfaithful to me and i have someone in my life or at least for now..

Ngenzeni,yisintu?kufuna izinyanga kumbe njani?ufunani kimi vele?

Siza Mthwakazi please,i need move on without him empilweni yami,i need my good night sleep too.

Ngibona sengathi kukabili:
1. It could be that wamthanda kakhulu lujaha and mhlawumbe lamanje there is hidden love for him which can not flourish because of the circumstances surrounding yo relationship. That being the case nxa uzitshela ukuthi let me get over with this phase of the past that silent love responds besucina umphupha.

2.Mhlawumbe ujaha lo can not accept to let go of you. Kungenzeka ukuthi mhlawumbe in an effort to woo you back usekusebenzisela izihlahla. Though l feel this is less likely.

Please note that his unfaithfulness to yu does not automatically mean that he does not love yu nor yu don't love him. It is painful ukwenziwa njalo, and it may over shadow uthando oluzikileyo kini lobabili, which may eventually express itself ngendlela ezifana lamaphupho wonalawo.

Gasela,

Ngiyabonga kakhulu nge advise yakho. Yanginceda kakhulu sibili, ngacina sengingela zinkinga. Ngikhuluma kunje, sengilo ntombazana oyedwa engihlangana laye ensitha, ophuma kwelika Kibaki. Uyangithanda angani lijuba, engavele angithi tshazi kuba ngani ubone i ice-cream ilanga litshisa, uhle agxoze indenda - kuyangijabulisa very too much lokhu.

Inkinga okuphetheyo Zela dade, ifuna ukuthi uthole inyanga ezakulahlisa isithunzi salujaha. Kungehlula thola i sayikholojisti, ezakulahlisa imicabango kalolwo jaha. Ngithemba uza ncedakala. Ngikufisela ithamsanqa kulokho.

Ngiyabonga Gasela,impendulo yakho le brought tears to my eyes.Uyazi lujaha,we went through a lot mina laye but loba ngingabe ngimthanda akulanto engingayenza coz usengubaba wabantwana lalu mama,mina ngeke ngibeyisizatho se failed marriage yakhe.Izihlahla?eish kuyangethusa lokhu loba ngisazi ukuthi it is possible.

Doc,ngiyakuzwa sibili..sengizazama ukudinga okungangisiza ukuze linto idlule ngenze eyami impilo.Ngiyabonga.

SAME TIMES KUYATHOLAKALA LOKHU MINA NGEDWA UMA NGIZWA INKULUMO YAKHA ,NGIKHOLWA UKUTHI LOJAHA UBESENLIZIYWENI YAKHO.WENA WASUKA WAMTHOANDA KAKHULU THATS WAY EHLALA NJALO ESEMAPHUTSHENI AKHO .KUNZIMA LOKHU ENGIZAKUTSHO KODWA NGICABANGA UKUTHI KUNGAKUSIZA ,KHOHLWA NGAYE UMKHUPHE ENHLIZIYWENIYAKHO UMTHATHE NJENGOMNEWENU

Zela;
Okunye okungakusiza is to totally cut all strings lal'ujaha. Uba ngikuzwa kahle he has kept track of yu and all the while usekholitshini beli-khomunikhetha. Lokhu kwenza imithonsela lokuzimpanjana kwe-relationship yenu kuqhubeke kukhona. Ekubeni waku avoyida lokho awaze wamupha indlebe nga sewamlilela, wamphupha kwedlula.
Just get something to occupy you (eg further studying and some interesting hobby), yena ungaxoxisani laye. Mhlawumbe kungakusiza ngoba kubukeka lumuntu ubumthanda sibili and wena ufana xathu lofelwe yisimomotshwana sakhe engalindele.
WARNING: Whoever yu have in yo life now be sure yu truely love him, there is risk of him just being a source of solace nje. I would advise yu do not commit yo self until this other phase is totally gone and yu are sure yu really love and need him.
Shame l feel pity for yu.

Ok Ok..I admit,ngiyamthanda lakathesi lumuntu but i guess bengilokhu ngizama ukukhohlwa ngaye but failing yikho ngaze ngayifikisa la ku Nkundla lindaba.Lonke lizwakala lisithi ngilokhu ngimthanda,well,I think it is the only reason why he is on my mind always but how am I supposed to ignore my feelings or stop my dreams,angizenzi.I have tried everything to forget him but kuyala,ngazama to treat him as a brother Mashayabhuqe but he seemed to be a very special brother,i care way too much for him such that ngifisa ukwazi if he is alright la akhona.See,Gaselomhle,I have no strings to cut la coz angikwazi lokuthi ukuphi manje,ukuba uyaphila noma wafa and this is making me CRAZZY.Ngifisa ukuthi ngangiyazi at least that he is fine maybe I will feel better.I jus want to hear his voice.I know it sounds silly but it is the way I feel,kwesinye isikathi I hate myself for being like this and hope to God and even pray I completely forget him but it never happens then besengithi mhlawumbe ngingathetha naye for a few minutes on the phone kungaphela but at the same time i am afraid that if i get in touch with him I will never let go of him for ever.Sometimes I feel,we were meant for each other and I will never be happy without him.

Ngiyazi I sound like a stupid person but my life is a mess,it has been for years.Loba ngilojaha lo emazweni,I don't really feel that kind of love laye,yena he is so good to me,ukhanya uyangithanda loba nje engowesishoneni-i don't see myself marrying him to be honest but uyangilibazisa otherwise i be so so lonely and go MAD thinking of the other guy back home.Kwezinye insuku I find myself imagining things,like "when I get home,i will hunt him down till I find him,he will be shocked but happy to see me,we hug and kiss and the two of us will chat for hours about how much we missed each other"or maybe,i will get home and he is seriously ill in the hospital,then I visit him and lie next to him and listen to him breath whilst he is asleep till he wakes up! or what if we meet accidentally...he is walking with his family,we bump into each other-we can't help but drop everything and hug each other(freaky)...etc etc...thats how badly I miss him.It's like I live a Double life,with him and without him.

Do you think maybe yena vele sewakhohlwa ngami?I jus need to know if he thinks of me sometimes coz my life is hell,it is like torture.I even did a risky thing of calling his (mom and dad's phone and talked to his little sister and tried to get information but she said he does'nt have a phone where he lives and because I could'nt tell her my name and why I was asking about his brother,she did'nt give me much information at all.I feel bad but that night I had had one of these dreams of him and I cried like a baby- i was even shaking,I could'nt help but dial the no. that was given to me at his old work place.Kuthi kangihlanye vele ngaye lubhudi,i once asked my doctor for help,he simply said-"it is love,jus find him,you belong together,tell him how you feel,that's the only way to go about it,you not crazzy,you don't need no shrink or anything like that"

Since i wrote here and got replies,I read them all over again..like everyday,it's like I am going crazzy.I am afraid I will die miserable and lonely if I don't have him in my life for real.I love him it hurts so badly!I love him I love him,ngiyamthanda ,ngiyamthanda.

uzekisiswina?

uzekisiswina? [/quote]:

Mayihlome shuwa,what are you suggesting here???Ngizekise obaba abalabafazi babo,ngoba yibo bodwa phela abakaMthwakazi abaku le area engikiyo.Usemazweni lawe,you know how difficult it is to find someone to hang around with if you are single,esp..amaNdebele bayabalwa ngapha.Wena vele why not try and tuckle my problem and come up with a solution to help me live impilo engcono ukhiphe inzondo yakho yamashona kuproblem engilayo.This guy may not be the one for me but okwamanje I am happy I have him as he is the only friend i have,abafazi babantu don't want to be friends with me as I am single,bayesabela imendo yakho.What should I DO,ngiphile ngedwa lesizungu se diaspora sonke lesi,ngingalunga?Tell me something helpful bo!!Shiyana lento zikucabanga ukuHLOMA kuphela coz you really don't know if I zekisa him or not,he is not the issue here,indaba ngeyejaha elisekhaya,engilithandayo,elisemaphupheni ami!

I received a mail from Ndebele Phaqa, and he has indicated that he is unable to logon to Inkundla but has the following post for Zela.
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NANSI KE I POSTING YAMI:
After going through your last posting i couldn't resist the temptetion of posting my rather childish or maybe stupid advice. My belief is: the road to everlasting happiness is knowing who you are, believing in yourself and setting your goals and fighting till achieving them, and forgiving , in other words getting what you want.After reading your post i came to a conclusion that you love this guy 100% and nothing, no-one or anything will change that. I would like to differ with others a bit. Ignoring him or trying to forget about him will never solve this problem instead it will make matters worse because you will always be kept in suspense. Give yourself one last chance to be with/without him by phoning him directly, get to know what his plans in life are, you might be surprised that he is going through the same torture.Dont tell him how you feel first just ask about family, work and that you got his number from a friend you met in town and you just wanted to say Hi and find out how he is keeping, keep it formal and plain, dont put emotions.Let it sound like a friendly call.After this you will be in a position to know that he is gone for good or he is in the same pain as you are.Then you make the neccessary desicion.I think what you lack is the closure, you are not sure if this love was really over and you cant go ahead without getting closure on this issue.

Give yourself time to sort this out once and for all.Expect bad or good.If he doesn't open up on the first call, try the second and third if he still doesn't then open up and tell him how you feel then leave everything to him. All your burdens will be lifted from you after he tells you what he thinks or feels about the situation.

I will ask brothers like Dokotela, Zwangs, Gasela and others to comment on my advise before you take it maybe there are dangers in this process.Run it through your head as well and see if it suits you. Wishing you all the best.
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Regards
Dok

From me to you dade Zela. Ngizabamba lindaba ngenhlangothi ezimbalwa ngokulondeka okulandelayo.

(1) Ikusasa lakho ligxile kwizenzo lemiphumela yansukuzonke. Lapha ngitsho ukuba izenzo zakho zanamhla, ziyakusondeza naa kuzifiso zakho zakusasa? Ngizaqala ngokuthi, ungaviki ngobunke, lapho umfowethu ekubuza ngokuthi uyatholaka emacansini lomtaneshona. Ikusasa lakho uyalifaka na ku mntaneshona kumbe ufuna uku buyela kujaha ose zimbagwe? Ukhethani? Kusobala ukuthi inzalo yeshona iyehluleka ukukukhumula kwimicabango kajaha osemqondweni wakho. Kungani ungakhombi, impintshi ezigrand enkundleni?

(2) Injabulo Yakho igxile njalo ekukhetheni into ozwana layo ngcono njalo olesiqiniseko ukuthi iqondile. Kuyini okuku hlaba umqhele?

(3) Ingozi ongahlangana lazo ngenzalo yeshona yikuthi uzakumithisa abesekulahla kabi. Hlala wazi ukuthi lowo jaha ufuna ukukudlalisa nje, njengoba lawe ufuna uku jabula. Kodwa umehluko yikuthi lingaze lijabule lonke, yena uhamba enga thwalanga lutho kodwa wena ulakho ukusuka usule ngcosi, kumbe umkhuhlane.

(4) Amandla Engqondo ayajabulisa kakhulu. Ulakho ukuqala ukulibha ingqondo yakho ukuthi ibe lakho ukuthola ukukhululeka kwimicabango yalowo jaha. Qala njalo uku libha ingqondo yakho ukuthi ihlukane lomfan' ogave uboya begundwane. Ekugcineni vakashela ihofisi yami ngikwenze i "operation fun-putter", ezakwenza uthole injabulo ephezulu, lapho uzalahlekelwa khona yi stress, lemihluzi yenjabulo.

Kuqala ngizathanda ukubonga uNdebele Phaqa
I think I am definately taking your advice coz vele I been wanting so badly to know ukuthi yena ucabangani,all I wanted was some to tell me to go ahead and do it coz it is not a stupid dea after all.Thanks Ndebele.Dokotela,I don't quite get what you are saying kodwa ngibona you are concentrating much on the Shona guy thing,ayisi issue leyo,lo ngumuntu nje engimbona now and then as a friend-Angikho that loose you know,no wanda ujaha osekhaya engamitisanga mina but the other woman,angidlalwa like that mfethu.Ujaha lo,siyakwejisa nje as we go to the same college,sike siye kuma cinema,same gym,and he visits me now and then,yena he wishes for more but mina bengingekholapho but told him we can be friends coz i really need him(as a friend)ok.I wish aluba ngingakhulumanga ngaye vele coz ngiyabona where this is going..i know most of you really hate these people but siphilisana labo and he has been a good friend,i will never allow him to use me that way.so ,ungangesabeli vele vele!

Now,if i may ask everyone to please ignore the part of this Shona boy so we can move on with the real problem that brought me here.Thank you.Ndebele,i will let you know how i go with the phone call-good or bad,for now ngizodinga inombolo zocingo,ma engelazo i will find someone with a cell phone to hunt him down,then i would talk to him from there.UM desperate uyazi.Ngingambhadala amadollars azwayo sibili!

ngiyabonga

Bafowethu.

Zela, mntwan' omuntu, mina Zwangendaba ngiyakucela. Some may say use a long spoon, others may say a very long spoon, and yet others may say a VERY VERY VERY long spoon. Mina ngithi, NEVER AT ALL.

Angitsho uyatsho ukuthi useke acele itenene??? Asikwesabeli sibili kanti yithi esiyabe siganyulwe???, kodwa kubuhlungu ukuba yi STATISTICS sabo as isizwe, nxa sebebalisa lapho abadlula khona.

Li Zwangendaba.

[quote=Zela]I ... vele I been wanting so badly to know ukuthi yena ucabangani,all I wanted was some to tell me to go ahead and do it coz it is not a stupid dea after all./quote]

So Zela ubusazi kahle ukuthi ufunani, ubudinga okupha isibindi. So mina I think kuhle uqhubeke wenze lokho okufunayo. Kodwa ke be prepared for anything ngoba ulakho ukumdinga lumuntu ukhangelele ukuthi mhla umbona you will hug and share how yu missed each other, etc, only to discover ukuthi he never missed you and you don't exist in the syllabus yempilo yakhe, ubusulimala ngamandla. Usulimele ubone sengathi ulinyaziwe kanti hatshi the whole battle is in yu and yo mind.

Le eye tshona inzima ukuthi siyi iginowe. Lokhu kuyingoba we treasure yu dadewethu (I suppose yu are a Mthwakazi yo self)Kambe umuntu usengaxakelana laboxamu lendwangu ngoba esenkangala? Uyazi Zela angikuthuki wethu kodwa ngijonge ukuletha umcabango ongacitshe usize. Wena manje yu are concerned nge"real" problem yakho but be careful, don't ignore okulethwa ngabafowethu concerning ubhudi lo wesitshabini, lest you brew another problem for yo self. I strongly believe ukuthi it is untrue ukuthi wena laye alithandani. It's yu who introduced him and in the context yezokuthandana and it was as if he is a perfect replacement kabhudi lo osekhaya. Funda imigca le engaphansi uzibuze ukuthi ubusithini ngesikhathi uyiloba njalo ayiphikisani yini, ayivezi i-self deception somehow about yu.
In response to Ndebelephaqa
"Ngizekise obaba abalabafazi babo,ngoba yibo bodwa phela abakaMthwakazi abaku le area engikiyo.Usemazweni lawe,you know how difficult it is to find someone to hang around with if you are single,esp."
In response to Dokotela
"...angidlalwa like that mfethu.Ujaha lo,siyakwejisa nje as we go to the same college,sike siye kuma cinema,same gym,and he visits me now and then,yena he wishes for more but mina bengingekholapho but told him we can be friends coz i really need him(as a friend)ok.I wish aluba ngingakhulumanga ngaye vele coz ngiyabona where this is going.."

So watch out yu could be having a weakness of not coming to terms with yo real self. Never deceive yo self. This aspect of self deception cud be a contributory factor ku-problem yakho le olayo, ngoba nga wahle wazitshela ukuthi "utshomi lo osekhaya ngiyamthanda whether umithisile kumbe ulomfazi mina ngiyagcwala ngaye" yu would have handled yo case differently kudala.

So into engiyifundayo lapha wena yu do not mind what yu do labetshabi, and/or may be awubazi, to yu they are one of those tribes nje just like Tshewa, Suthu etc, Please be advised they are not. Usetshilo uZwangendaba kusithelela amahloni uba abafana besitshoneni betshaya ama-statistics entombi abedlule kuzo kutholakale lamagama entombi zesintwini ebizwa.

I'm yet to understand Zela ukuthi kanti litshoni nxa lisithi insizwa zakoMthwakazi zinlutshwana, azitholakali etc. Personally l believe it is all about being wrongly networked. Khona manje siyakhulumisana kuleli khasi sikundawo ezitshiyeneyo kodwa singabako Mthwakazi ngoba we got connected.
So Zela take yo time try to know ukuthi bangobani njalo bayisima kanjani abesitshabini, njalo kungani abafowethu besala ukuyi - iginowa lindaba yetshabi. Mhlawumbe kuzakusiza ngelinye ilanga. And pliz get connected to the right pple. Create a society & community that suits you not to move around suiting situations.

Well analysed Gasela, i wouldn't have done better.
Ngizathanda ukwengezelela ngokuthi, kukhona amantombazana esengike ngahlangana lawo akholwa ukuthi thina inzalo yeNkosi yohlanga asila siphatho, asila mali "mpondo-kayi-ntshintshwa", asikhaliphanga, siyizigebengu njalo asila njongo empilweni. Abantu abakhuluma kanje, esikhathini esivamile bayabe beke bavalwa amehlo yisitha, esiza angathi sizohlenga siqondise, sona sisiza ukuzo bhidliza.

Ngithi "Vukani!" kubo, avumele umuhlwa ukuthi ugebhe izakhiwo zabo, kodwa kubo kuthe "tsu!".

the way i see it osisi bakithi bale identity crisis ,banengi abalala lamatshabi and claim ukuthi alesiphatho.its very unfortunate ngoba those guys will never treat them as equals they use all sorts of deragatory terms to describe osisi bethu ,i know because i have learnt ,lived and worked with these people , uzwa bethi mandevere anonaka i mean what kind of bullshit is that?
our sisters shouldnt be blindfolded liberals and they should at leat know wat they really want ngoba kuyasenyanyisa

Mthwakazi allow me to raise an opinion & make this appeal, especially kubo dade.
I think into eliphutha yikuthi odade tell themselves ukuthi they are not "politicians" and ukubalensolo ngabetshabi it's politics, its tribalism, anti christian, politics is a dirty game etc. But then there is no way you can eliminate politics and the effects of political decisions from yu, yo life and yo descendants irrespective of whether yu are a christian, politician or apolitical. It is part of our ecosystem and refusing to influence and shape it, in a way, is being irresponsible.

Secondly madodakazi kamthwakazi lahlani umcabango wokukhongozela inotho elingayisebenzelanga. This is one other factors that has killed us. We think a suitable and competant man is one who will bring a dish full of inotho ayithi qithi phambi kwakho, eventually yu stoop so low ngenxa yoku-attractwa yimali. Hayi bo bantu bakwethu. Use yo hands and brains to generate income and sustain yoself. Uthando lamacansi kungeyami ekuthini isikhwama somuntu siqumbe kanganani. If yu can attain that level tell yu what yu'll think and view things objectively. Abetshabi have capitalised on that weakness and are screwing Mthwakazi sisters who unfortunarely think they are loved bona besetshenziswa.

Inyathela eliqakathekileyo okusamele silithathe: We need to change. One other challenge for most of us is that we are always looking outside ourselves for change when the first target of change is ourselves. When we ourselves change, everything else changes and we begin to see a new light. Knowing that we are the ones who need to change is one of the greatest discoveries we can ever make.

BakoMthwakazi we are a great pple, we are not so cheap.
And greatness begins when we take personal responsibility for our lives and for our destinies.
We may blame our man for what they are which is a result of the political systems which are not as enabling to the boy in Lusulu as they are to the boy of the same age at Uzumbamarambafungwe. A small home work for you, try to observe inani labophysician, pharmacist who say bafunda emaphandleni eMatabeleland ubaqathanise labasemaphandleni empumalanga. Why the vast difference, is it that we are academically inferior, No!!! The environment is not enabling. Uba lifunda iscience yu need labs with the necessary facilities which things will not be found eMabhonobono but are there koChiweshe. And as a woman uba uthi ijaha lakoMthwakazi aliyenzi liyabhowa and yu blame them for what they are, you are simple saying Yu will happily repopulate the Tshabis and never identify with the kindred who are being victimised and are victims. Yu proudly want to be consumed by their assassin than jointly resist that victimisation, which in simple terms is capitulation. But are yu sure those pple are prepared to identify with yu and recognise yu as a being and not just a being but a Mthwakazi lady with values to be respected kumbe vele yu have no values ngaphandle kokukhongozela izimali zabo. Its sad yu will cry foul seku too late and then uyobe usu khangelela ukuthi the same Mthwakazi brothers and sisters owabalahlayo bazwisise umumo wakho njalo bakuzwele.
Tell yu what when yu play this game yu appear busy and for a moment active and progressing whereas yu are sinking deeper into trouble and your perspective of reality is warped.

All progress demands that we change our minds, ways of doing things and beliefs. Without change we will never make any progress.
So long as we refuse to take responsibility and insist on these and those excuses we postpone our own greatness and put in a difficult position our own posterity.
Mthwakazi, bosisi, we can become anything we wish to become if we are willing to do what it takes. Change sometimes injures our own pride but it is for our good. in business the responsibility of every leader and manager is to get results in a climate of change. Each of us needs to resolve to be a master and agent of change and not just a victim. The proof of responsibility is our willingness to take bold and massive action in the direction of our goals.

Mthwakazi we were born to live and not exist. We are a great pple. If yu still think that yu are "not a politician", "politics is a dirty game" what are yu and which clean game are yu playing? Ukosa amagundwane loku bavulela imilenze? It sounds more dirty to me. It is time to unleash yo potential and contribute towards this good cause, bako Mthwakazi. masingavumi mani ukuba yizigcabha nje into ezingelma-values.

Very strong and encouraging words Gasela, you trully have a strong character too, which would really help many people. You are a very good motivator and it would be nice to hear you speak to a number of people gathered in one place.

I think your post is very encouraging for guys too.

Well done dade! Your words should be echoed in every part of our lives.

Bafowethu
Mazinyane esilo sikamthwakazi liyazi lani ukuthi okokuqala ubukhosi ngamazolo, njalo okungapheliyo kuyahlola.Laba abantu abetshabi basebenzisa kakhulu inketha betshabi lobandlululo(Tribalism).Manje sokubalimaza khonalokhu njalo amanxeba adalwe yinkemenkeme leyi angeke aphole.Umhlaba umangele madoda njegoba iZanu-pf isithi yona iyamfuna futhi umnu Robert embusweni.Amaphutha afana lalawa kuthiwani ngawo.Abantu bakamthwakazi bona bathini.Sizayiyekela kuze kubenini ingulube isinonela.

Miza-muntu(analyst)

Olungaziwayo aluthezwa wena dade kanti kwasekuluma kakhulu yini.
Uyazi futhi ukuthi laba imikhuba yabo mnengi idlana uboya
Pho-ke wena wakhetha ukuhlala le'GOLA' endlini.
Njengoba sewa nambitha nje kunzima ukuthi sikuxakulule, phela ukhethile ukuthwala udengezi ekhanda- uzotsha vele ngokuya kwesikhathi.Abadala bona ekhaya wabatshela ngalomhlola.kuyazila phela lokhu futhi ungakufihli ngoba kule mpondo angithi.
Ukhuleke kakhulu ngoba lokhu libhadi.

Zela dade..

At this time do what you have to do call this guy and find out what he is all about and if you dont exit in his world painful it might be but then at least you will have to pick up your pieces of broken heart and mend yourself and move on... Rather wait and tourture yourself and live on the maybes.....

So for the guy your hanging out with.... hey you are a human being we all want to be loved and dont listen to people who will critisize you about his tribal background because we are not there....
and none of us have an solutions for you.... If this guy keeps you happy then go ahead ...As long as he is a God Fearing person everything else will fall into place

Zwide

Ngiyabonga,uze wangilamulela kulindaba!Uyazi vele bengizitshela ukuthi mina ngiza yeka abantu abale nzondo leswina bakhulume abakufunayo but angiyingeni ngokubana nxa uvele uzonda ishona akula nto enhle ongayitsho ngabo loba nje ukwazi ukuthi bakhona abanye abalungileyo phakathi kwabo.Ngisa zama ukukhulumisana lojaha osekhaya,but lumngane wami has been so nice for as long as i remember.ukhulele kobulawayo njalo ngithetha naye isindebele kangifosi lutho,angitsho ukuthi amadoda esindebele a inferior or anything like that but umuntu nxa angakonelanga kanti ungamzondelani na?ukuthi lishona?angila nzondo lomuntu loba ungumhloboni,inkalakatha-yimpilakahle.

Ngiyabonga Zwide.

Heeeeyi!Ngiyakuzwa dadewethu,inkulu indaba yakho kodwa iqiniso lona lingaphathi kuwe ongakwenza nje wena ukukhululela"follow your insticts"Nalo lelojaha osaqhuba qhuba nalo okwamanje lizwakala lilungile,asazinjalo ngoba abadala bathi umntane nyoka yinyoka...

Dade Zela, i'm deducing that you did not really need advice but confirmation of what you already have in mind and furthermore you expected us to bless your union with a shona guy.

1. Thina sizonda izenzo zomuntu we tshabi. Kimi akukhathalekile ukuthi ngewensontweni kumbe hatshi, kumbe ulemali enganani, kumbe ufunde kanganani. Inzalo yetshabi iyazakala ngikuba yindlela ebhidliza impilo zabo dade bethu. Kungani ungakuthathi njengokuthi silendaba lawe, yikho sekwesabela kangaka?

2. Kukhanya awudingi sizo kulolu daba. Kungani ungaveli wenze isifiso sakho dade?

Ngiyabonga!

I agree with yu Dokotela. UZela akala hlupho. Uyakwazi akufunayo kuphela nje she lacks courage/confidence to go for it. Pliz Zela go for what yu want and 'wish yu well.

Bafowethu.

Ngincindezele:
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but lumngane wami has been so nice for as long as i remember.ukhulele kobulawayo njalo ngithetha naye isindebele kangifosi lutho,angitsho ukuthi amadoda esindebele a inferior or anything like that but umuntu nxa angakonelanga kanti ungamzondelani na?ukuthi lishona?angila nzondo lomuntu loba ungumhloboni,inkalakatha-yimpilakahle.
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Uhlupho lapha yikuthi sisadinga uzibuse. If we compromise our objectives by aliniating with those who have no wish to see us free, we defeat the cause. If we compromise our cause by aligning with those who are benefiting from the status core, we are making one step forward, and ten steps backward.

ABAFUNAYO KABAWATHANDE AMASHONA, BUT ONLY AFTER WE HAVE ACHIEVED OUR FREEDOM. WHEN WE ARE TALKING ON EQUAL TERMS.

Also let us not use religion to soften our zeal. Forgive me for saying this: WHEN THE GOD OF ISRAEL SPOKE TO MOSES, HE SAID FOR MOSES TO TAKE THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL FROM EGYPT. HE DID NOT SAY TAKE SOME EGYPTIANS AS WELL.

Mina I destaste it if MTHWAKAZI is used for Shona statistics. That is my main concern. As a Mthwakazi citizen, are you willingly being used to ADD NUMBERS TO THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS AND CONQUEST???

Li Zwangendaba.

Ngithanda ukubonga bonke abangiphathisayo kudaba lwami loba nje kwasuka kwangani kuleconfussion kancane but anyway my main problem in the first place was my high school sweetheart back home and ngizolazisa what steps i took and the outcomes.

1)Ngazimisela ukuya ekhaya ngiyeqedelana lakho.The story is jus too long but i will cut it short.Umendo wakhe lujaha failed partly because of me because i heard each time they faught nomkakhe my name would come up,bad things happened including umfazi finding inyanga ukuthi lujaha amthande akhohlwe ngami which led to parents being involved and more fights resulting in seperation.

Ubengasekho ekhaya ngifika,so I found his where abouts,he agreed to see me but well,he has moved on with a new church lady and he is doing his best to shape up his life,he is a different man now.There was no chemistry vele between the two of us,we talked for hrs and agreed that we will never forget each other and that we cared so much for each other but in a brotherly,sisterly way(I believe him).He even prayed for me!We then went to church to meet his lady,she was nice to me,cooked a great meal and also gave a big prayer for me to travel safely.It was a bit weird at first but I am happy for him.

Ngiyathokoza ukuba i am free at last!I was all smiles on the way back here.Now,I can move on with my life.They asked me to phone and let them know how I travelled,I did..I have NO feelings what so ever for him instead I feel I have my life back.I am trully happy at last!!

We all love a good ending!

Angazi njalo bhudaza. Ngibona ukuthi rather than it being a good ending, sekuyaqala ubunzima ke. Umama lo esevale leyo chapter ngo jaha lo, useya vula ngamandla i chapter yakhe etshabini lakhe, anamathele okwe glue.

I hope uzayafuna ijida lakithi kumbe elesinye isizwe hayi esesitha.

BOYZ

I hear ringing bells-unyaka lo kawupheli ngingashayanga esimhlophe qhwa!Ngikuthembisa invitheshin card bhudi wami,I hope you be happy for me.

Danki.

Isalakutshelwa sibona ngomopho

Zela, dadewethu, I just read your post about wedding bells.Engingakutsho yikuthi good luck lobhudi lo wesishoneni. The reason I say this is because I have seen people very close to me beqilwa, behlukuluzwa both physically and emotionally ngabantu laba, all in the name of 'love'. Mhlawumbe lowo owakho is different, akwaziwa, but as the saying goes, umntan' enyoka yinyoka!
I just hope awusoze uzisole later on in life!

Kutsho ukuthi sengizazizwela ngebhatshi lami then,okwamanje i am happy-after a very long time I feel I can live my life again,why lingangithabeli kanti?Nxa udubo emendweni lungangifikela,ngizadila labo njengomuntu wonke nje osemendweni onzima even ethethwe lindebele coz lami ngilabo abantu aba close abangendelanga khona esishoneni but bekarajwa beqilwa ngamadoda abo!Oswine bayatholakala zonke ndawo-uyabe uwumnyama wakho.Kungabanzima hanti ngilakho ukuyeka nje ngizphilele-life goes on,ngeke ngiweste eminye iminyaka ngilinde leloNdebele ngingelalo vele like i did.Kuzazenza lokho-le yimpilo,ngezakengibalekele amaproblems coz vele where ever u are,uzodibana lawo no matter what!

I know ukuthi lithi liyangisiza but le kaseseyi problem,udubo engeza ngalo lwasolvwa.I am just moving on with my life.And I promise you,nxa kungangihlupha phambili,I won't bring it here coz lokho kuvele kuyatholakala empilweni,i will deal with it myself.Why I came here in the first place was because of my rare problem of dreams-and i already got help from my brothers and sisters here-I appreciate that.Okwamanje ,cha -angilahlupho bakwethu.

Ndlu yakwethu

Angisho ngiphawule ukuthi mina ngifunde lukhuni.

Kukhona indoda yomShoza ebengithi yimpintshi yami kusekela ngo 1991. Now, I lost touch with the man in the mid 90s. Only for him to resurface ngo March lonyaka. Uyasebenza khonale kubo njengo gadijele, kusukela ngo 1996. Niyazi ke butho lakithi ukuthi in order to sustain employment in such places, kufanele ube ngumShoza. Poor me, ngasuke ngazitshela ukuthi lomShoza yena is different. Awu suka madoda!

Dukuduku, umShoza lona usethi uyeza eMzansi, uhlukana nobubha bezwe lakubo lenja, to start a new life eMzansi - yingakho mangithi host him, set him up, ngimxhase aqale impilo entsha, engcono. Hhawu, inkwali yenkosi yavele yasukumela phezulu, ngamxhasa umjita.

The guy came with one faded trousers, one old shirt, one pair of izicathulo eziketshile (old & worn out crooked sole) - to show for his 10 yrs loyal service emajele kaM-g-o-d-o-y-i!. Ngalubona usizi lwakhe, ngamgaya ama shirts wami, ibhathu zami ezindala, izikhindi zami etc. Fine. Wahlala, ngamgaya igawulo, ngamgaya inyuku yokuthi azi verstaan uma ngingekho. Kwakuhle kwadela.

Little did I know ukuthi umShoza will always remain a goon.

Kuthe langa limbe, umShoza lona wathi usefuna ukuphindela emuva, kubo kwele nja! Awu, ngamgaya imali yetekisi etc. Wavaya. Efika kubo lena bandla, wangithinta ethi kune ntombi yakhe esuka ngakubo kwele nja iza eMzansi. Wavele wangigaya ne cellphone number yaleyo cherry. Fine.

Awu ngamthinta loyo cherry. Saxoxa, I never met her. Next thing, leyo cherry ingitshela ukuthi umShoza lona says mina I'm up to nonsense, ngidla leyo cherry! Mameshane! Yini ke le?

Ake nisho ke nina mabandla kaMjokwane kaNdaba. Yini ebekufanele ngiyenze kulokhu?

Ngavele ngathukuthela, ngagan' unwabu. Ngathi: he must just forget about coming to me uma eza eMzansi. Basically, I'm done with him as a person. I've suspended my humanity towards him.

Bottom line, omShoza bonke are thankless, parochial, self seeking, ungrateful, backstabbing, mad goons. No matter what you do for them, bazo kwenzela phansi. Get into bed with them at your own peril. Ekugcineni, bazoku bonisa imbedumehlwana.

Lezizinto, ngabantu kungenabantu!

Zela dadewethu, sizakwamukela futhi, usubuya ekhaya uphethe 9 o Tafara, shingidzayi, rufaro etc. Sizakuthanda unjalo usuwenze iphutha elikhulu elingaka.

Muntuongelakudla. Kuyini 'omshoza'? Suke wakhuluma lo 'mngani'wakho wa khomfema fo-sho ukuthi lokho okutshiwo ngu ntombazane lo(ongabe laye ufuna kulixabanisa ukuze azisondeze duze kwakho) kuliqiniso na?

Boyz

OmShoza ngamaShona baba.

I confronted the goon, wavele wangingiza, wankwankwaza, wabika imbiba, wabika ibuza. The evidence was there coz I got to see the SMS in which he had put those accusations through.

Hhayi kabi. Angikuqondise njalo. Igama lami nguMuntongeNakudla & not what you refer me to as "MuntuOngeLakudla".

Haa, Muntongelakudla, bekufanele aze angene endlini amanzi before ukholwa ukuthi ayadiliza indlu? Ngiyamangala uyadlelana nama Shona to leyo extent, kalilaleli nxa belitshela abadala hayikhona. Hlukanani labafo laba, baqonde ukusiguqisa ngamadolo siyizigqili.

Ungaphindi uthi ukhona owabo olungileyo, akekho!

Zela,

Ngiyathemba uyakwazi ukuthi ufudu lubotshela oluphetheyo.

Njengoba okulitshabi sokukugcobe ngodaka emehlweni asazi. Mhla uzahlangana lesinina uzayifunda ivaliwe.

Akunani ke sothi Hamba Juba, bazakucutha phambili.

Kanti Muntongenakudla uyaphila! Nkwali yenkosi, bathini emtubatuba.

Ngakutshela ngakho okungabantu lokhu wena wathi okukuMDC kupucukile. Kesihlangane ngale kwezombangazwe. I have missed your posts, albeit for academic reasons.

Zela says
"i am happy announce ukuthi ngiyashada ngoDecember bandla!abasadinga uthando,lusatholakal
a i assure you,keep fingers crossed."

Kuyajabulisa ukumenywa emthimbeni womfowenu, Njalo ngikufisela konke okuhle kumuli oyisungulayo.
Ke ngibuze nguwuphi umkhwenyana kulaba esake saxoxa ngabo, kumbe he is none of the above.

HLUKANANI LALEZIZINTO OKUNYE KWAKE KWANGIBALEKELA
KUTHE EMVA KWEMINYAKA ELITSHUMI LANE KWATHI NGIYAXOLISA
YIKUTHI BESISE BANCANE,MINA LAMI NGATHI KUYE,"NGIYAXOLISA LAMI SENGIDLULELE PHAMBILI,NGIYENTSHONALANGA HATSHI EMPUMALANGA"

Bafowethu.

Angidingi kudunga ingxoxo lapha. Ngizaxolisa ngaphambili. Okulempondo akufihlwa emgodleni.

Ngincindezele from MUNTUONGELAKUDLA:
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Boyz

OmShoza ngamaShona baba.

I confronted the goon, wavele wangingiza, wankwankwaza, wabika imbiba, wabika ibuza. The evidence was there coz I got to see the SMS in which he had put those accusations through.

Hhayi kabi. Angikuqondise njalo. Igama lami nguMuntongeNakudla & not what you refer me to as "MuntuOngeLakudla".
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uShamase wangempela! Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga! Igcokama likaNdonga. Isishwapha sikaSomkhele. Yangcol' into ngayintshinga - bayicosha abafokazana! Futheka mnyekefuli. Ngiwuphula ngamabomu umoya wakho - yilento ekubulalayo!
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U ZWANGS uzonda AMASHONA. eHHEEEH SOKUSOBALA MANJE.

IF THIS AND THE POST BEFORE IT ARE WRITTEN BY NZARAYAPENGA, hk hk hk nkngghhh! AND NOT AN IMPOSTER, I WILL CONSULT MY THONGA IZANGOMA TO BE CLEANSED AND PURIFIED.

U Shamase Wangempela?????

Li Zwangendaba.

Zwangendaba

Tshwalabenyoni, your obsession with me is quite disturbing and bordering on the perverse.

It does not surprise me that out of all I have posted, all you see or even worse, chose to see, is the negativity that resides in you. I suppose you have nothing better to do with your time than to keep following Muntongenakudla from thread to thread, seeking his attention. Well I’ve got news for you – I ain’t got your time.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

Bafowethu.

MAYUYU MTHONGA WAKWETHU. UXOLO SIBILI, I was only trying to cement my point. I NEVER REALY WANT TO CREATE ANY ENEMIES. ESPECIALY WITH THE CHILDREN OF MTHWAKAZI. MY POINT HERE IS , ubogawula ubheka.

ABAFANA BAYALWA NDODA EMAFUSINI, NXA WAKHULELA EKHAYA NJENGAMI. UNGALALISA IKHANDA SIYAKUHLABA NGOMQWAYI.

I CLOSE BY SAYING, WHEN PEOPLE DISCUSS A TOPIC, DO NOT BE-LITTLE OTHERS UZENZA WENA OPHAKEME KULABANYE NGOBA KUBUHLUNGU UKWEYISWA. IT IS EVEN MORE PAINFUL WHEN facts, IMEAN FACTS REVEAL THAT YENALOYO OWEYISA ABANYE LAYE YIMBACU NJENGATHI SONKE. TAKE THIS NOT AS AN INSULT, BUT AS A BROTHERLY ADVICE SINCE SESIKWAZI SOBABILI UKUTHI SIYIZININI EBUTHONGENI.

MINA KANGIZONDI NXA UNGIBONILE UKUBHAYIZA KWAMI WANGIQONDISA. YISO ISITHONGA ENGISAZIYO ENGASIFUNDISWAYO NGEKHAYA. I HOPE YOU WILL UPHOLD OUR GREAT TRIBAL PRINCIPLES BY NOT GETTING OUT WITH ME WHEN I ADVISE YOU. BATHI OKUTHANDAYO UYAKUYALA.

Hk hk hk hk, one thing that rocks my head up to now , hk hk hk is that MFANA ulala le SHOZA, hk hk hk, hayi baba hk hk, akwenziwa lokho abantwana bakithi begcwele so?????

Ungazondi, njalo ungadobheli.

Li Zwangendaba.

Ekuhle.

Wena Zwangendaba uyangihlekisa. You must be a funny Oldman. Angikuthuki madala ngiyadlala. I have followed your threads, and they are a mixture of humour, amasiri, and downright provocation.

Ungithinte ngasese kule "War Vet" elithi liyakwazi sifuna to confirm if its you.

Nevertheless, engingakugcwalisa lapha yikuthi zihlobo, asizameni ukunceda abantu bakithi abadubekayo e South Africa. Kambe singancedisa abempumalanga baze basidlele intombi zethu sibanike izigqoko lemali abantwana bakwa Mthwakazi bedubeka khonapha e South?

Yimi okaMblazi.

Zwangs, i notice that you close by starting. Bengithi ngizakuthi unike ispitshi in my ingejiment, kodwa sengisesaba ukuthi singatshona ilanga lonke silalele wena as you close.

Ha Ha Ha.

Zwangs

Angina nkinga uma kuwukuthi awuhlose ukulwa. Khululeka mnumzane.

Kusafanele ngicacise ukuthi leyo ntombi kwaku ngeyona yasebuShona. Cha. Kwakungeya kwaNcube. Kwayona ntombi leyo, it's not even anything to write home about. It's just one ugly useless cheek. Yigwivi nje engingeke ngize ngizi hlanganise nalo.

On the score of izintombi. Mina bandla ngizothanda ukusho kinina ukuthi umfazi ngumfazi madoda. Akusho ukuthi ngoba ewuhlanga oluthile, ulungile noma mubi. Cha. Induku enhle igawulwa ezizweni.

Kukhona izintombi zenu kwaMthwakazi eziyizi nswelaboya. Goons. Harlots. Unprincipled thugs. Bayakhwahla, bayathakatha, abana nembeza. I've personally experienced some shocking cruelty at the hands of your so called Mthwakazian girls okokuthi ngiyafunga namhlanje ngithi: mina kaNkwali ngeke ngize ngithandane ne cherry yase siNdebeleni. In fact, mangithi wonke nje ama cherry asezweni leNja! Ngeke mina. Ubaba angavuka ame ngezi nyawo uma ningezwa kuthiwa mina kaShamase ngithandana nentombi yakini kwaMthwakazi noma nje i-cherry yasezweni loMgodoyi jikelele.

Cha mina ngeke.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

Bafowethu.

Shamase, WENA MFANA. Ungazondi nxa ngithi wena mfana angilwi baba ngikudonsa ngendlebe.

Ungathuki intombi zakithi ngoba zingakufunanga. Aaaggggggh, wena. Awukaboni lutho Shamase. I will continue saying MFANA not in spite please ungazondi ubusuvuka ngolaka sicine indaba ingasazwakali.

Zwana ke mfana, LINA LIDUBA NGOKUNGENA EBHAWA LIPHUME LAMABELE ENDLELA LIYELALA LIKHOTHA SELIVUKA EKUSENI LILINGANISA OKUBUGWANA LENTOMBI EZILEZIMILO. WAKHILE UMTHWAKAZI NDODA. AWUKABONI LUTHO NXA UNGAKAZE UKHONJWE YINTOMBI ZAKO MTHWAKAZI MFANAMI.

Okwesibili ngiyadana nxa usithi uMTHWAKAZI WENU. Shamase, uleqinisa wena ukuthi usufulathela isizwe sakwenu usufuna ukudliwa zindunduma zaseGoli? Woza ekhaya jaha, abalenkani njengawe yibo esibafunayo thina ngoba basikhombisa ezinye izinto esiyabe singaziboni. WHY DO YOU THINK I ALWAYS FIGHT YOU?????

You have your own conviction and ideas and you stand by them. THAT TO ME IS A QUALITY OF ITS OWN KIND. That is what brings strength in me.

I must hasten to thank Kanti 9 kanye lo Ndukuezibomvu ngokusikhuza. The only thing I feel is your WEAKNESS is ANGER. You need to tone down sometimes mfana. When someone sees or knows something you do not, help in EXPANDING that knowledge than try to shoot it down.

Now a small joke, "VALANI INDLEBE LINA ABANYE", lawe SIBALUKHULU VALA INDLEBE KANTI USUSONDELELA MINA NGIKHULUMA LO MNTO: hk hk hk, mfana, sesikhulile thina abanye. Ungazami ukungirobha uthi intombi yakho le owayithathela i SHOZA li ndex ELIBI. Akula Ndex elibi mfana, liShox lelo usufuna ukuvala hk hk hk. Njengoba INDUKU ENHLE IGAWULWA EZIZWENI NJE!!!!!***** I see stars or should it be INDUKU ENHLE IGAMULA IZIZWE hk hk hk.

Li Zwangendaba.

Zwangs

Ngiya kuzwa wena wekunene. Angisho ngithi mina kaNkwali angiwathi mbibi amankwebevu. Phecelezi, I'm a teetotaller: I neither drink nor smoke. I'm as sober as a judge. To that extent, angilubhadi ebhareni.

Eyezi ntombi zakwaMthwakazi. Cha ngiyaphinda ngithi mina: labo bantu angisena kungena kwi line yabo. Uma ngibuka, izinyanya zakithi vese azizwani nabo hence izinto zami nabo azikaze zize zichushe. Futhi angeke zize zafa zachusha. Isifiso sisuke sikhona ngempela sokuthi ene, ngithi give them a chance. Kepha I must emphasise ukuthi the ones I've seen are rogues. Mhlasimbe wububha base zweni lenja obenza izintombi zivuke ubulwane. Bayafeba, bayakhwahla, bayathakatha, bashayana ngomkhonyovu, bashayana ngengqulathi, abana nembeza.

I may not be at liberty to share ama personal experiences wami kulengosi. Kepha, if you were to walk in my shoes, you'd have cause to paint all of them with one brush. IsiZulu sithi: "utshani obulele buvuswa wumlilo". I might have been weak before, but I'm stronger now. Ubuhlungu bami bunginika isitifiketi sempilo. In life kuye kuthiwe: never say never. But I differ. To that extent, I've made a commitment to myself ukuthi noma yikanjani, angeke ngize ngithandane ne cherry yakwaMgodoyi - be it your so called Mthwakazi, mShoza, mZambezi or whatever stripe they come in. I'm simply not interested in those creatures. Kimina they are nothing & mean nothing in the bigger scheme of izintombi zange mpela.

About i-cherry yaloya mShoza, indeed ngowendlu yakwenu kwaMthwakazi wansondo loyo. Uzokhumbula ukuthi lengwenya yomShoza lena was born & bred kwaBulawayo. As such uyasikhuluma isiNdebele, yize uyise eyiShona. In fact, lengwenya is a cross breed between unina wakwenu kwaMthwakazi noyise wangale eManyika.

Induku enhle igawulwa ezizweni. Nakhona. From henceforth, igcokama lakwaNdonga selibheke eZansi, okuyi lapho lizothola isimatsatsa sentombi yangempela, uphuma langa sikothe wentokazi enesizotha. Hhayi amagwizi ezindlavini zasezweni lobubha!

Nempepho sengiyayi shisa, umsamo usuya khanya, amaNkwali avumile - ngomthola umaqondana.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

Uthi cha, ungeke? Uzalwa ngubani wena? Angithi nje uzalwa yintombi yakwa Mthwakazi pho ke ukhalelani ngentombi zakithi eziku zalayo? Uyazi bathini kithi? Bathi ozond' iBosso ngozond' unina.

Kunjalo-nje, ibambe ungay'yeki. Sebenza (ubuy' ekhaya!)

Skuvethe

You've obviously lost your sense of objectivity.

Ukuthi ngizalwa ngubani, wakuphi, has no bearing on my preference over whom I fall in love with. Mina ngiyingane yoMma, intomb' endala ezihloniphayo - njalo uMma wami akangeni ngandawo kulendaba esiyidingida kule ngosi. Kwayona bosso yakho yansondo leyo namazondo onyoko - it has no bearing kwi choices engizenzayo kwezo thando. Bringing isisho esisangene sezindlavini zabalandeli beBosso yansondo leyo is neither here nor there.

I have said it time & again ukuthi intombi iqoma la ithanda khona. As such, it's futile for anyone to convince amagwivi enu akwaMthwakazi wenu ukuthi: thanda lona, yeka lona. That applies to izinsizwa as well. Insizwa iganwa la kuthande inhliziyo yayo. Eyami ke ithande well outside izwe leNja, purely because kimina o-cherry bezwe lakini yizindlavini zamagwivi!

Last thing: I urge that my postings be viewed in terms of their substance as opposed to their form which most people continue to view them in. Bantu bakaMgodoyi, never lose eye contact with the ball. See the wood from the trees. Then we'll sing from the same hymn book.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

Ngokufanayo Muntu, ungathi ngoba waphoxana ne nkazana yako Ncube leyo ubusuninda sonke isifazane(kugoqela no nyoko) sakithi ngodaka. Iba objective kanjalo nsizwa yakithi.

Kodwa utsho kahle, uthando luya lapho olukhethe khona.

Ibambe, ungay'yeki. Sebenza(ubuy' ekhaya!)

Skuvethe

Ngizo phinda njalo: angizange ngize ngithandane nomaNcube, igwivi lentombi kamShoza. Cha. Bengizo thandana kanjani nomphuphe uzifikela uphuma kwaMgodoyi, ngamakhwapha anukayo! Sekusho phela kona ukuthi ngiye hluleka la ngikhona - such that I have to wait for a new comer into eMzansi - wona uMzansi uthe chithi saka ngezintombi kanjena! Even if kuwukuthi ngiyi sishimane sangempela, esabhekwa yisambane - cha mina ngeke madoda.

My vile experiences at the hands of Mgodoyi girls were with seperate creatures, not in any way related to loyo maNcube.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

Bafowethu.

Ngincindezele from Muntu.

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Bantu bakaMgodoyi, never lose eye contact with the ball. See the wood from the trees. Then we'll sing from the same hymn book.
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WENA MFANA, hk hk hk, yikho lapho esithwalelana khona induku nxa usulahla umlomo kanje. Asisibo bantu baka Mgodoyi thina. Siyazazi kanti usulahlekile ukuthi yisizwe sika MATSHOBANA lesi wena. Weana mfana, ngiyakukhuza. UNGATHI BANTU BAKA MTHWAKAZI WENU LOWO, ANGILAYO INKINGA. KODWA UNGATHI BANTU BAKA MGODOYI UYABE USUVUSA IZINJA ZAMI EZILELEYO.

Do not trample on MY FLAG of MTHWAKAZI. Kanti usufuna sitshayane futhi?????

Coming to imenya zakithi mfana ezigeza ngochago, MINA NGITHI YOU HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE NGOBA YOU ALLOWED YOUR YOUTHFULL LIFE TO BE WASTED NGAMABELE ENDLELA.

When you are a young boy, khombisa ontanga bakho then you will enjoy LOVE, UTHANDO. Ungagijimisa labana esasibabona ema NIGHT CLUB, you will have the wrong impression of a relationship. Bayakwenza ubone angani bayakuthanda mhla ungelakho lokho abakufunayo, (MATERIAL THINGS), bayagijima lomngane wakho.

As you rightfully say, le ntombi yenu loMshoza akekho obengayithi TRUST between you loMshoza. As soon as he was away, UHLALE ESAZI UKUTHI UMFOWETHU UYAZIDLELA SO NGINGEKHO. How close could that girl be to you ukuthi aze akutshengise i TEXT MESSAGE????? What was she impliying ekutshengisa leyo TEXT MSG?????

All she was telling you is DLANA NDODA ANGITSHO VELE KUYAZIWA.

Li Zwangendaba.

Wena Mntongenakudla, if all your associates zako Mgodoyi are low class, ungagoqeli sonke isifazane sako Mgodoyi ngangubonye. I will be wrong ukugoqela sonke isifazane semzansi ngokuthi asiziphathi kahle, bazala abantwana at the average age of 17years with an aim of getting R160 child subsistance from the government.

Makhetho

Ndoda noma mfazi: akungi caceli ukuthi ubulili buni. If ungowe sifazane, then you're one of izindlavini zama gwivi engiqondise kuzona ngenhla. If uyindoda, then you must be one of the sympathisers zalezo zindlavini zansondo.

I never said I had associates, (women or girls) zakwaMgodoyi. You're therefore wrong to insinuate such propaganda on my behalf.

I will still insist ukuthi kimina izintombi zakwaMgodoyi yizi ndlavini zama gwivi. I won't date anybody from izwe leNja. Futhi akekho ozongitshela ukuthi ngithandane nabo, balungile, bahle. Cha.

If all Mgodoyi girls (who as far as I'm concerned, are all goons) are high class, then they are so kuwena, and certainly not kimina. Wena qhubeka ngo layini wakho osheshayo wase zweni lobubha ngoba uyakusebenzela. Nami ngoqhubeka ngowami ulayini waseZansi ngoba ungenzela kangcono.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

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Ndlu yakwethu

I like this, this is one of the most positive things you have said about us. We are happy to welcome you back. We have never lost hope, ungowendlu yakwethu wena asingeke sikulahle njalo kumqoka nakuwena ukuthi ungasitshingi.

Yu should change yo name to Muntongenalimi.

Kengibuze bakaMalandela, wayemi ngaphi uMkhwanaNzi mhla ebukiswa leyo tekisithi? Kumbe ngithi wayelele kumbe emi? Mhalazna eyithinta ocingweni wayelenhloso bani?

Ngiphinde ngithi MkhwanaNzi sengiyavuma manje ukuthi akumelanga silahle imbeleko ngokulahlekelwa. Siyakwamukela kububha bethu namhlanje bokukwakhlukanisa ngezohlanga. Heyi sewuyawazonda nawe amashoshoni?

Hayi ke wenanto engalasikafu, nxa usulobile into zakho uyawuke uzibale ungakaze uziphosele enkundleni. Nxa abesintwini ubeyisa kangaka manje udingani lapha? Ukuzohlaba lowomkhosi wama "goon".

Nqoba

You must change your handle to "LOSER", isahluleki sangempela!!. That's what you are.

If you think I'm in this website for amantombazane akwaMgodoyi - then you must be smoking the wrong weed.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

Bafowethu.

Doc, uxolo baba. This young man uShamase is driving me sixes and sevens. Close your ears Shamase this is not for you.

Inini i NGEJIMENTE yakho ndoda. If it means flying or swiming across the Atlantic, and driving or walking across the REBEL INFESTED Congo to get to your partey, I will attempt. Kuyabe kule ZIBHARARA na????? Ngibize u SIRUMULA sibambisane indlela mhlawumbe ama Rebel engesaba engezwa sikhuluma isindex seNkomponi.

Now to Shamase, I am warning you for the last time. Asisibo bantu baka Mgodoyi thina. Do not trample on my FLAG and dignity.

Ungathi ngokukhotha imisuzo yamashona mfana ubususithi immenya zakithi awuzikhangeli. Awukaboni lutho nxa ungakaze ukhonjwe liTHWAKAZI mfana. Intombi zakwa Mthwakazi are independent AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED. I am sure that is what INTIMIDATES YOU. You MANIFEST YOUR FEAR IN HATRED. Esintwini kuthiwa zala abantu ziya ebantwini. Akukho ntombi yaqoma inyamatana. Wena manje usoka bani elitshiya a CHALLENGE and run for easy meat like UMSHOZA?

Ungesabi Shamase. It is a CHALLENGE nxa intombi ikufuqela laphaya. It must make you STRTEGISE on how to win the next time.

USUNGATHI WALIWE YINTOMBI YESINTU WENZE OKWE SILWANE OKUTHIWA NXA KUNGELA NYAMA SIDLA UTJANI?????

Hayi mfana mani ungadelelwa zintombi. Ufuna khonangapho esiSHOLOZENI uzaphongukuthi NDIPE udle. Kuyakhonjiswa ndoda. Ikwale yona isazi ukuthi iyakufuna. Uthi mhlazana uyithola uhle unamathele. Lokhu okubuya lula ngokwema BHAWA. Intombi ozithandayo ezamaSHOLZA thina sizilinganisa lentombi zakithi ezitholakala eBHAWA. YISANANGAPHO leyo.

Sory Doc, angisakwazi ukuthi besingaphi. Ungapheka umqombothi ngizakwedlula ngidobha u Shamase e Goli ake azobona intombi ntombi.

Li Zwangendaba.

Zwangendaba

It's a shame that after having debated with you for 3 years, things have come down to this.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

Bandla,
Indaba kaMuntongenakudla i-straight forward. Uba ngingayifinqa ngingathi nje waqomisa ekhaya waqonywa ngama"goon" wodwa and then wrongly concluded ukuthi yonke intombi yase khaya yi"goon". Asuke akulibale yikuthi imvama whatever befalls yu, yu are partly to blame. Muntongenakudla yu met goons becoz u deserved them. Akukho ntombi qotho eyesintwini engaqoma umuntu onjengawe. Yu sound so pompous & uba ufika entombini ezwayo nge approach yokungani yu are doing her a favour ngokumkhombisa, uzitshaye isicwicwi sase Wenela esindebeningi (okwatsho MaNtuli), Inkisela efunde okudlula bonke, isikwaya, ngeke qha ikukhombe intombi ntombi. It's those goons who will go for yu and bayabe sebewufunde kudala umnyathi wakho. They'll be out to prove a point & to cut yu to the right size, and I'm sure they have done it accordingly & severely, that is why yu are so bitter.
Uba uphikisa lumqondo buza intombi ezilapha enkundleni ukuthi from yo writings bangaki abakuhloniphayo. yu'll get it right.
Wena instead of labelling the whole females zasekhaya as goons find out why it's only goons and not intombi kuzwa who go for yu.

Gaselomhle,
Waze wangiqamba mfowethu! Kusobala ukuba indoda ezithi inguMkwanazi ngoqobo inguMukwananzvi, uShamase, a corruption of Shameless, eyabelana ama shirts nentombi nomshoza! Ingezeke ithole intombi ezwayo! He simply does not deserve them! Kanti kona ukuzenza umZulu angithi yikuswela impande, nguthathekile imota yale!! Mhlawumbe kwabayindlela yokuthola amaphepha eSA! His pomposity and self importance shows his true origins as Zezuru or Karanga! Akekho umuntu olobuNguni who is so pompous and shallow, njalo okhihlibeza izibozi zamazwi emphakathini! Muntongenakudla has too much in common nemfene enguMugaxabe!AbeNguni are dignified, level headed and measure their ways carefully! They do not blow their own trumpets! This condenscending shameless goon, elingu Mukwananzvi, is a Shameless Zezuru masquerading as a Nguni, who will not fool anyone here nor any ziqeqeqe zakwaMthwakazi!

omnyama

Vele akabhadlanga lomntongelakudla....ngeke!!!

Gaselomhle
Uyigwivi lange mpela. Indunyuva yoqobo, eyabonwa abaKwaXhosa. And igwivi lendlavini yaKwaMgodoyi elifana njenga nawe is certainly not on my mind. Don’t even let the thought cross your mind ukuthi uma ngiphonsa amatshe laph’ esivivaneni, kusuke kuwukuthi ngihlose ukuheha amagwivi aKwaMgodoyi anjenga nawe. Cha. I’m a clean man.


Omnyama
You obviously have a very ignorant crowd around you if you believe the nonsense that you spout. And I really cannot blame you given that you have likes of indunyuva ezifana njengo Gaselomhle for an audience.

You must just stick your tail between your legs and go take a quick nap – sounds as though you’re in need of one.

Sdudla
You’re clearly not fit for discussion & should be accordingly given the silent treatment.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

Ha ha Muntongenalimi, I'm definately in yo mind that is why yu can sit down behind yo screen and write to me. Yu can never address me without thinking about me, neither can yu think about me outside yo mind, except uba uyi "goon", igwivi lendlavini elilobuyelele obungenmkhawulo, indunyuva yoqobo eyabonwa nguShamase.
Aba "clean" siyabazi akudingi kuthi bazibabaze.
Finally so what is yo point, to me yu are a high sounding nothing, I can't pick any fact in yo posting, it's just ukuhlambaza nje angathi kuse ralini ka malumakho umusikabanu. And ukhuluma xathu njengaye, kalithandi nje ibala elithi mg.d.yi

Wena Shamase!
The fact that you were born kwaMgodoyi, but shamelessly claim "phesheya kuka Thukela" or whatever, shows that you have a serious mental problem. Your mind seems incapable of seperating fact from fiction, fantasy from reality! You need serious help! Uthi ngokushada nomXhosa(??)(kumbe nokuphila namaXhosa?) owakufundisa isiXhosa ogqabhaza ngaso la eNkundleni usuzibona ubuZulu! Normal people never claim to come from where they never were! You have a delusional mind!
It seems you did not only take a page from umShoza loyana's book, you stole the whole manual or perhaps it was a parting gift. You have obviously benefited from that Mshoza goon's manual!
So you should not have any problem with being identified with those boastful arrogant goons, amaZezuru!
Your attitude and behaviour bears an uncany resemblance to them! Isibongo means nothing! Baningi oKumaro(Khumalo) naboMashangu(Mahlangu). There is a Kenyan(Mwangi), who goes by the name of Michael Ndebele, who is wanted by INTERPOL(bala ku Isolezwe). Wena umoya wakho ngowemfene leya, uMugaxabe.

As a warning, abeNguni bathi, "Elakusasa alaziwa". Don't boast and insult people calling them "bakwaMgodoyi". "Inxeba lendoda alihlekwa!" AmaShona after independence babe thuka uMthwakazi bethi buyelani kwenu enavela khona! Namhlanje, they are the shameless 'roaches infesting not only the whole of Southern Africa, but the whole globe!

Ake uzinuke amakhwapha ndoda!

omnyama

Gaselomhle
Haha haha lol rotf

omnyama

Muntongenakudla,
Pliz don't forget to take yo tablets. If yu can pliz re-visit yo psychatrist, there is possibility that yo system has developed resistance to the medication yu are currently on. Gud nite goon

Muntongenakudla

kengithi ngikuphe isiphala la ungacupha khona amanye amagama ongazibiza ngawo.UNGUBILEBILE,uhlala ubaba njalonje.nxa ngibala imibhalo yakho awukho opholile yonke ivutha amalangabi,lomanje uyabe uletha umbono omuhle kumbe owehlukene nowabanye uyalwa.awuzame ama-anger management classes ngoba uzadla umuntu ngamazinyo

Bafowethu.

Ngincindezele okuphuma ku Shamase:
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Zwangendaba

It's a shame that after having debated with you for 3 years, things have come down to this.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
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Nxa ulesikhathi Mthonga wakwethu, ngifuna uthi take your time and read all your postings as against mine on any topic. Utsho ukuthi olomlomo ngubani. Nxa kuyimi ngizaxolisa.

Kodwa wena awukwazi ukukhuluma loba manje ngiyazi uzangisukela.

Mina ngithi, "LET US DEBATE and not ARGUE".

Li Zwangendaba.

Bangane,

Ngifikelwe ngumusa inyanga ngomnyaka ophelileyo, ngasengithi komunye umngane obe ekwa mgabe akake aze azobona ukuthi angabambabamba. Wayehlala engilobela izincwadi ethumela imibiko ukuthi ngilungise ukuthi aze ngapha azolungisisa elakusasa. Ngimlungisele njalo incwadi zase migreshini.

Uthe efika ngapha ngahle vele ngasebenzisa ulwazi lwendawo, lokwaziwa ngabantu ngamfaka umsebenzi ohambelana lencwadi zakhe. Osahoho balapho, bajabula kakhulu ukuthi sebethole umuntu ozakhulisa inkampani.

Engakasebenzi okwenyanga ezimbili wahle vele watshela usahoho wakhe ukuthi, akasafuni umsebenzi, usefuna ukuyahlala endini. Yikho ke, kulezi nsuku usejabulela ukuthi atshone endlini ebukela iDSTV adlala amaComputer games, lePlaystation, lokubhoda-bhoda esenza ibling-bling.

Ngike ngakhuluma laye izolo, ukuthi uzimisele ukwenzani, kodwa akaphumeli egcekeni, uthi yena akafuni ukubuyela ekhaya, njalo umsebenzi engamtholela wona uyambhowa ngoba yena ufuna ukuba yimaneja. Akazihluphi ngoku dinga umsebenzi, kumbe ukudlelana labantu ukuthi angezelele amathuba akhe. Akatshayi ndiva ngalutho.

Ngikhule laye lujaha, safunda sonke sisebancane. Ngumfowethu waseduze. Ngenzeni, ngimxotshe, kumbe ngibe ngilokhe ngimdingela umsebenzi, of which uzangiphambanisela ireputation yami? Ngimtshaye yini umayihlalela lo?

Dokotela

Just fire the bugger.

Typical muntu waKwaM-g-o-d-o-y-i! Oswayini! Thankless goons. Next thing, uzobona eseku dlela umona, ekuthengela abantu ukuthi baku bulale, ufele impumelelo yakho. Just get rid of the bugger before ekwakhela uzungu, ekubulalisa.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

Hatshi Dokotela mbekezelele lubaba, mhlawumbe ucabanga okunye wena ongakuboniyo. Ukuthi awusa cacanga ukuthi lumsebenzi owamtholela wona yiwona msebenzi wakhe kumbe wamjikela ko Pikit Up. Esikhathini kusuka kungenzi ukuthi umuntu ololwazi olujule njengale indoda isuke iyesebenza ko Pikit UP yona isazi ngezezimali. Ma ungumuntu, okwaziyo la ojonge ukuya khona, akusebenzi ukuthi uqale uye eWankie wena usazi ukuth ufuna ukuya eGoli, usuka koBulawayo. Udubo olusuka lube khona ukuthi abantu basuke bezehlise kakhulu, akuphumeki lapho oyabe usukhona ma usuzehlisile.

Sinikeza isiqephu se CV yakhe and umsebenzi obu mzuzele wona then singakhona ukukhuluma, okwamanje akukazwakalisisi.

Ngeke ngakhangelela ukuthi umuntu owenza ezemali enyuvesi azekuba umantshingelani eGoli, yikulahleka kakhulu.

Asixoxisane

Mkhombandlela

Here we have uDokotela, going out of his way, esiza umuntu nje. NB: umuntu nje – a mere friend, not even a distant relative. Doc goes out of his way, amfunele ispani, amgaye i-accomodation etc. Next thing, the goon doesn’t wanna work. Ufunani pho? Ufuna ukusetshenzelwa wu-Doc? Uhlose ukwakha uzungu, abulale uDoc, adle izimpahla zakhe?

Truth is, uma ufika in a foreign land, you start from humble beginnings. In life, the cardinal truth, sometimes you have to go down in order to come up. You have to bite the bullet. You take any opportunity you have, use it, position yourself & move forward. Whatmore uma ufunelwa umsebenzi, bese ujika awu funi kuspana! Akekho umuntu osebenzela omunye – ikakhulu in a foreign country. I have heard of some Mthwakazian morons in England. Kuthiwa omaklina izalukazi/nurses/care givers/social workers laba ngeke baze bakwenzele lutho uma ufikela kubona. They ensure that you suffer blind: uzwe umuntu ekutshena 9 9 ukuthi akayena umzali wakho ozoku gcina.

Problem is oMthwakazi laba bafuna ukwenzelwa kuphela. Kunjalo ababongi. Umuntu uyamsiza, ajike akubonge nge pleyiti lamasimba! I know of impintshi yami eya zwakalisa an ex classmate. That ex classmate was a teacher ezweni lobubha. Now, lendodamfino comes eMzansi. Impintshi yami imfaka espanini se restaurant – ukuze ageze izitsha, get pocket money & build from there. Now the guy works 2 weeks & says isaka lakhona lincane, he wants out. Mameshane, he wants out? Ukuze agcinwe ngubani? Suffice to say that, impintshi yami read him the riot act, called him to order, waqhubeka espana. Now, problem is: the guy doesn’t contribute even a cent endlini. Uma kuphela uvoyizane (salt), utshela impintshi yami. Come on guys! Is the guy so lowly paid that he can’t buy a 250g packet of table salt for less than R1? Kunjalo nje, nge 1st pay yakhe yase restaurant, the guy buys a DVD athumele KwaM-g-o-d-o-y-I to his wife & kids. Ngo Mthwakazi ke labo. They thrive on using abantu.

Mina ngeke madoda.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

Msu,
I'm sure uDok stated that the job was in line with his papers.

Dok,
Since this guy is no stranger to you I would advise you talk to him again and insist on him saying ukuthi ucebantoni. If he does not want to come out clear wena be clear with him ukuthi he has to work for himself and wena despite your willingness to help him you are in no position to have him as your dependant. Akukhonto elula njalo ecace njengeqiniso. Ungamkhekhelezi. If he is not willing to take the available options which are either taking the available jobs of returning home then wena be clear with him ukuthi your place is not a holiday resort. Umbonise futhi ukuthi he can not start big. If he has to be a manager he has to prove that he deserves the post ngokuqala asebenze lapho afakwe khona. In a foreign land it is difficult ukuthi umane nje uphiwe a manegerial post kungela-proven work reference within that same locality.

Bathi what goes around comes around Doc if ubona ukuthi impintshi yakho le yimpintshi yansondo hlala naye ungamlahli umfowenu uzakusiza kusasa. Impilo yikubonisana, sehlukana ngemiboni esikhathini kodwa kakutsho ukuthi umuntu kusafuze umlahlele iganga mgoba lingasazwanananga ekuthini lihambise njani izinto.

Xoxa laye ma kwehlule kwehlule kodwa ngibona kusengathi kufana lomshado kuyabekezelwa

Lamuhla yimi kusasa uwena.

Ujaha lo esekhaya wayengumuntu othatha izinto serious, kodwa uthe efika ngapha wahle wafisa ukujabula kuphela. Ulobuciko kuluhlu lobunjinela kwezamandla kagetsi. Wayese Nust, wase sebenza okweminyaka emithathu. Lapho ayesebenza khona ekhaya wayesehlonitshwa ngolwazi lwakhe.

Uthe efika ngapha, ngamtholela umsebenzi wobunjinela endastri. Akuzange kuhluphe ngoba ngilabangane, abanye bakhona bayangihlonipha kakhulu. Bahle bathi njengoba ebiswe yimi, bayamethemba, bamthatha. Badana kakhulu, baze bangitshayela ucingo sakhuluma okwe30 minutes, ngaxolisa ngacela usizi, ngikubeka ukuthi bengingazi ukuthi umngane wami uzatshiya umsebenzi, alahle izpanela.

Incwadi ze migreshini, kumele zilungiswe yinkampani lapho okumele abe esebenza khona. Yikho ke, abasazange baqhubeke ngokulungisa lezo ncwadi. Enye into engizwisa ubuhlungu yikuthi, he has failed to adjust to the environment, life is fast ngapha, njalo networking is fundamental to making money and survival.

He does not feel guilty, ma ngifika ntambama after doing my job and my other consultancy work, yena edlala iplaystation qede lapho aye komunye umdlalo.

Ngingamxotsha uzakuya ngaphi? Engahlala uzakwenzani?

Mina I still insist ukuthi Dokotela you need to talk to this guy njalo utsho yonke imizwa lemicabango yakho. All the concerns that you are raising here should be brought to his attention, njalo do not look for some one to tell him. Mtshele ukuthi kuyasheshwa kufuze laye asheshe, njalo akwazi ukuthi wena you are willing to help him though you wouldn't want to sacrifice your reputation in the process, njalo ulakho ukumxotsha kodwa ke ulesihelo sokuthi uzokuyaphi, kanti njalo you feel he has suddenly changed from the old diligent person you used to know. Ungalali ngaphandle kwengubo ngaye.

Doc

IsiZulu sithi: "utshani obulele buvuswa wumlilo".

Just fire the bugger. Uzozibona ukuthi makenze njani. He'll wake up uswayini!

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

Gase ngilalele njalo ngivumelana lawe kuloludaba esiluphetheyo lapha. Kaxoxe lomfowabo, mhlawumbe laye kukhona akusolayo, kabaxoxe bezwanane laba bobabili, ma kungehlula emlonyeni uDokotela usengenza laloba yini engamsuthisa. Ilukhuni indaba yakho mnumzane. kodwa engingakutshela khona yikuthi ngani yimi engadingelwa ispano bengiza shikisha ngiyakutshela.

Banewethu,
Kuqotho okulethwayo lapha ngendaba yalumuntu osetshona edlala endlini amnye amadoda esbenza. Okunye okungenzeka Dokotela yikuthi lumuntu anga elemimoya. Kuyenzeka kwesinye isikhathi izitha zikubelethise imimoya etshiyeneyo egoqela leyobuyanga. Mhlawumbe engakasuki ekhaya ubesetshumayela ukuthi uyakhuphukela emazweni, basemethesa iyezi elisitha impumelelo.
Okunye njalo hlasimbe engakaze asuke ekhaya ubefuze enze isiko elithile yena akasalenzanga. Phela thina intsha ezinye izinto ezifana lamasiko sizithatha lula, kodwa ke zile-impact ethile empilweni zethu. Abadala bayabikelwa nxa umntwana ephuma ekhaya.
Xoxa laye mnewethu, utsho imivo yakho ucwayisise njalo ukuthi ekhaya usuke kahle yini. Uyakuletha nje kalula sanxoxo ephathelene lamasiko, he may open up.

Yekungabe kunjalo Nqoba but uyazi abanye abantu bayazenzisa befuna ukugcona abathakathi lalapho abangenzanga lutho.!!Doc tshela mina truth umuntu lo ulamaresponsibility bani ekhaya .? I mean like is he married with kids ? Otherwise uspokes kala nto emhluphayo ngxa kungenjalo as long as he has a roof over his head and is fed/. Lokhu okokuthi igas lamagetsi kukhwelile ngokwakho wena Doc yena kakufuni yena right? Uyazi Nqoba so uzezwa abangakibo sebesithi uloywe nguDoc esenzela ukumfuya ukuthi angaphumeleli. Khuluma laye muntu wenkosi Doc but let him know that you are giving him a month tops for him to go out and get a job(manager (LOL!!if he wants)and whilst he is at find himself a place to live period! Yebo kuyangcedwana but aghh yeyilina umuntu onje uthelela ulaka. Lapha konakaCharlie uphiliswa yikusebenza.Ende uyazi Doc balutshwana abantu abalendawo yokugcina umuntu nje makhaza. Abanengi bahlala emaroomini besenzela ukuseva. Mina ke kuyimi ngabe sowadla idlela. I have an acquantance who quit his good job koMgodoyi and waya e goli. Wafika wagcinwa kuhle ngumzawakhe.Wantholela umsebenzi wathi yena kawufuni ufuna lowo onjengalowo abelawo ezim!!! Wawuthola ke kwathi sokumele ayeqalisa wathi no angeke ngoba imali abeyo expecter ayisiyo so ngxabesithi yena uyisthutha beholisa amaSA imali enengi yena besithi ngoba ulikwerekwere bazakhawula kayi!!!!Can you believe that ! Anyway ukazi wathi bro hit the road!!!!So Doc ungekela ukufaka ideadline yokuthi kaphume endlini yakho uzamsebenzela kuze kunguamen .Uzathi loba engathola umsebenzi ayekwakha umduli wamatshe ngakibo wena ngakini kulengotsha!!!!

Dok,
Nxa engazwisisi melukele iqhinga, Awula yini umkhukhu ngemva kwendlu. Umtshele ukuthi isithandwa sakho siyeza njalo sa-investa in all that you have. Manje siyahlupha asifuni maxhakela kanti ke wena usikhonzile kakhulu ngeke ulwisane laso. Ubusumfaka ebhoyizikha, umfakele umbhela lestofu sepharafini, aphile yedwa khona ngale.

Bafowethu labo dade, ngiyabonga kakhulu ngokungicebisa ukuthi ngenzeni ngomngane wami lo, ongu mayihlalela. Njengokutsho kwabanye benu, ngike ngazama ukukhuluma lomngane wami ngalendaba yokuthi, azame ukubona ukuthi angadinga okokwenza. Ngikhulume laye ngokuthi njalo azame ukuthi azame ukudinga amathuba angamenza athole ukuthuthukisa amanani okuthola umsebenzi. INetworking, uku aplaya.

Ngiyadana kakhulu, ngokuthi akula mehluko. Njalo enye into engikhathazayo yikuthi okwenyanga ezimbili ezedluleyo ubesenza ama "trunk calls", ngefoni endlini, akhulume lentombazana yakhe yasekhaya 2 awazi. Imali yefoni efunakalayo iyesabeka, njalo akanaki ukuthi izavela ngaphi. Khonapho ngimnika imali ye airtime, nyanga zonke. He is tearing me apart, mina ngilama responsibilities ekhaya. Yena akala ma responsibilities, so kalandaba.

Nsukuzonke nxa ngifika, ufuna ngimnike imali yokukwenza ibling-bling. Nxa eyicela kuyabe kungathi ufuna ukulungisisa indaba zamaphepha akhe, kumbe ukubhadalela amafutha kodwa mina ngiyakwazi, ngoba abangane bami bayangi tshela ukuthi bambona ngaphi njalo esenzani.

Ngizwa ngizonda kakhulu ngoba, this guy used to send me amaSMS amanengi efuna ukuza ngapha. Now kasafuni kusebenza, he has increased my expenses by 80% to 150%. Ngijombile so ngenxa yakhe.

Ngimxotshe, kumbe ngimdingele umuntu ozamkhuza?

Lizakhuluma lizeliphume intuthu endlebeni. Abanye abantu are hear on earth to be a burden, thats their purpose. If I were you Dok I would have a meeting with this goon and give them a piece of my mind. Abantu bayakhuluma and they will always. We have a black syndrome, the pull down syndrome. Uthe esiza kuwe uthe uzokwenzani? Write a big banner 'WHAT'S YOUR PURPOSE IN LIFE' and put it infront of his door so he can see it everyday.

At this point ukumbonisa akusizi lutho ngoba uba esesenza izinto nsithe kukhomba ukuthi uyazi ukuthi azilunganga njalo azamukelekanga kuwe. Into ongayenza yikwehlukana laye. Nxa ungenelisi ukumqonda mathupha dinga umuntu ongakufikisela ilizwi lokuthi wena ususindwa ngaye. Phela you will end up financing things which on yourself you choose to forego. Hlukana laye, and the sooner the better for you.

Doc

I presented you a quick fix solution kudala le. And you did not heed it. Instead, you chose to listen to oMthwakazi bakini laba bethi you must pat the goon on the back, uguqe ngedolo, umncenge ukuthi afune ispani. What was the result?

Buka manje - i-problem yakho lena is getting even worse?

Well, mina kaNkwali ngine nhliziyo enhle - angizuku kulahla, angizuku kudukisa. Ngoma nawe till unqobe loSathane - ingulube enonela wena! And you'll be the first person to acknowledge ukuthi: cha ngempela umfoka Nkwali yinsizwa yangempela - a man of effective, permanent solutions.

Well here's a quick fix solution ke. Uyabona ke le solution will deal with lo feleba wakho lona once & for all. Nanso ke:

Just fire the bugger. Uzozibona ukuthi makenze njani. He'll wake up uswayini!

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi
Umicondo yegusha
U-jacket lika 3 years

Lapha ngivumelana noMuntongenakudla. If you dont get rid of this parasite now, he is going to bleed you dry. I dont think you owe him anything. Umxhoshe manje, then uzovuka!

Dokotela sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. Lumuntu is taking advantage of your kindness. You have already given him shelter and food, you dont need to spoil him further. In other words you are partly to blame ngoba ulova lo uhlezi kuhle thats why ebona kungela need yokwenza these menial jobs meanwhile engakatholi the job he wants. Enye into okumele uyazi yikuthi umuntu onjengaye is not considerate and therefore he is not likely to help in any way empilweni.Ngoba umuntu lo is your freind and you have already accepted him kuzabanzima ukumxotsha. Umuntu njalo ule tendancy yokuthi nxa ungamenzela ifavour the day you decide to stop usungumuntu omubi. Engibona kungakusebenzela kathesi ngama sanctions,maybe you can say usuleproblem efuna so much money and it will be difficult to break even. Ngemva kwalokho cut out everything ungamniki imali ngoba kasomntanakho lokudla endlini kutholakale nzima ukuze aphaphame ayephanda.

Doc, umngane wakho lo, is not really a friend. Ngumngane, nje, ngebizo, but not ngezenzo. If he was truly your friend ngabe he's not using and abusing you ngal' indlela. Ungasamuphi imali leyo lama airtime lawo, uhambe lama connecting cables awama games lawo to work, as well as ismart card ye DSTv, he'll get the hint. Lokhu ukwenze usumtshelile exactly how you feel about him being a like a parasite.
Okokumxotsha, angazi njalo. If anything were to ever happen to him emva kokumxotsha, angikholwa ukuthi your conscience would ever forgive you. Ngingazi njalo!