Heshe!

Elikamthaniya likhulu kodwa lincane. Sibonge ukubonana eNkundleni, sethembe lukhulu esizoluzuza noluzosikhulisa ngokuhlangana kwethu.

Mina ke, ngakhele isikole i NoNdumiso, esigodini saseHlambanyathi, esiphethwe yinduna uHlabisa. Umfula oseduze yiMpelenyane.

Asethembe sizobuye sixoxe!

ikuphi leyo ndawo Nkunzana, ingabe ukwaHlabisa ngokuhlala, ngiyaqala nqo ukuzwa ngaleso sigaba...unokufika e "Bit by Bit" leya club eseMtubatuba..

Hope u can help

My surname is Msimang and have tried in numerous ocasions to find my origins but have not been able to do so.

Kanti lesisibongo sethu siqhamukaphi angikaze ngisibone ngisho ku chazwa izibongo.

I tried to contact C.T. Msimang hopeng he can share some light but ingxaki i email ebengiyisebenzisa eyakwa shooter and shooter mybe he never got the massage.

Any help I can appreciate.

Angke ngigxeke muntu noma yini oza nayo I will accept kuphela nje mina kufunakala ngithi go through what u tell me digest it and make my own decision.

Regards
MD MSIMANG

ngisayo phenya Thabizolo, ngobuye ngikwabele nami engizokuthola ngomlandu wakini....

Ngethemba uphilile mfowethu. Njengoba uthembisa la ngaphezulu nami ngizokuhlephulela okuncani engahlangana lakho ekuhambeni kwami njalo ngethemba ngingeke ngikudukise ngabantu abalesibongo sakho. Ekushoneni komngane wami omkhulu owako Msimanga owaye esakhele eMafikeng evela eKZN( l think eMgungundlovu),kwangena ama 4 x4 lezinye inqola zikanokutsho ezazibelethe amavili emhlani ,specifically from Free State bebizwa oMsimang , angisakhulumi nge KZN lapho umufi owayedabuka khona.But there is this one unpopular guy ongusomabhizimusi wase Soweto who depened the confusion that we all had with this family efanayo but with a different surname. Yena wayengubhudi wakhona omkhulu owayelanda imbali ukuthi ngubani umufi ngesikhathi sisenkozweni.Wathi yena eziqamba wathi ungu....Msimango, the original. Wathi yena ikhehla eladabula lesisizwe lalihamba labafundisi lingumvangeli from Gasa, linguMsimango, lafika kwaZulu lazala uMsimanga, laphelela e FreState selizala uMsimang. Ngaphandle kweqembu lakhe laseSoweto, iKZN leFree State were annoyed by this 'distortion' of their history. Zashesha ezinye izikhulumi khona e church zaqondisa ukuthi uMsimang/Msimanga/Msimango wonke osechurch munye, kwehlukana izi spelling nje qha.Sithe ma sesiku aftertears baqhubeka be mgxeka lo ubhudi wabo omkhulu ngenkulumo yakhe yokuziphakamisa lokwehlukanisa ifamily.To an outsider like me womke la amaqembu wawuwabona nje ukuthi aphuma enkunzini eyi one njalo wonke ayasutha asikho nje isichaka. Kodwa ke sasala singayazi imbali yakoMsimang abaziwa ngaMatebele eMafikeng.

La eMafikeng banengi, uMsimang lo Msimanga bangumndeni munye, njalo badume nge entrepreneurship ngingabala , ama shops,amatavern, petrol stations,saloons, taxis , commercial farming njalo njalo.Ukhona ubaba u Msimang ebevamise ukusithengisela inkomo, siyihlanganele sibane siyihlabahlabe foro inyama(wu, amathe ami aze agcwala umlomo ngikhumbula inyama yokoswa efresh, oya izinsuku ezadlula!) . Kodwa bafike lemithwalo from KZN and Free State and bakhuluma njalo baphila isiZulu. One village where there are concentrated is called Uitkyk, l think ku map it falls under Radithuso/Kopfontein.

Ngethemba angikudukisi sihlobo ngendaba zasemgcwabeni. Bazokupha uncedo abanye phambili, ude uzichazele impendule ozifumeneyo lathi sifunde ngoMsimang

Very interesting about umndeni wakwa Thabizolo eMafikeng, are tehy possibly reminants of the trail up north by inkosi uMzilikazi? Also how present is the spirit of mzilikazi in the NW province , since he built his stronghold in that region, have you visited any sites such as eMarico district, egabeni etc???

I hear what people are saying, thanks I hope that more people can come and share some light to this surname.

Ngiyazi akulula but I will not give up.


I suspect ukuthi abantu baka Xaba sihlobene nabo.

Confusing enough some say we are Suthus I dont know what to be lieve I am going through Journals that were published during the 70s hoping that I will find something.

Any help will be appreciated regards

OkaThabizolo

Nango umfowethu ubhakhaniya kudalo ngangingakabi yilunga lale nkundla ebhala ethi:

Msimang - Nonkosi, Mlotshwa, Thabizolo (Bavela kwaHadebe)

Ndoda yamadoda kuthiwa injobo ithungelwa ebandla nginike umthombo oghabule kuwo name kengiyo galela khona.

OkaThabizolo umntwana
Uyabonga

Bhakaniya eliMmnyama.

Yebo, ngizakuxoxela nge ThabatsaMotsilikatsi( Mzilikazi's Mountains) kanye le SilikasKop (Mzilikazi's Head)khonale kwelabeTswana ;emzileni weNkosi uMzilikazi. Manje sengisiyalala...kungene amakhaza

ayi wena. wena. cha abakuyeke. usuyolala. futhi unolwazi oluyisimanga unjalo nje. kodwa cha abakuyeke uyolala.

Duze ,Duze musukungiqala ngizilalele. Kanti kawangenanga yini amakhaza ngakwelakho . Awulali ngani kukhifiza izulu lamakhaza nje. Uphi vele ?ngoba ngakwami iqhwa liyafunisela.

ayi ndoda. cha mfana uyinkunzi yangempela. noma ngithi uyinkabi yangempela. phela izinsizwa zakwaZulu uma zincomana zibizana ngenkabi. ungezwa bethi lo yinkabi wazi ukuthi ubaqedile. enye inkabi yathi kimi ngina, isho ngeminwe isho 7, ithi ngina 7 phansi la. nawe ngiyasola nkabi ungathi kubi la kwakho.
waphinda walala nasemini futhi. kanti uhamba nini nkabi,ebusuku.

enye inkabi engihlobane nayo bathi la kubulawa umuntu kubizwa yona. ngitshelwa ngumfowethu. ngelinye usuku babehleli emtshadweni khona emekhaya kwaZulu kanti ingane zizenamakrikethi. maziwashaya yasukuma inkabi yakhupha isibhamu yadubula ingane unyawo. mabeyibuza yathi beyithi iyahlaselwa. inkabi lezi be careful ngazo. ungezwa kuthiwa nkabi woo ubobhasobha. nkabi lalakahle.

Duze, Duze ngithe ngilele Nkabi. Kodwa kunjani kwakho namhlanje sihlobo.

Uyangihlekisa khona sengilele.Uzazelaphi inkabi wena? Kambe uyazi ukuthi lalamhlanje zisekhona inkabi KwaZulu. Buza mina mfowethu, ma kulemicimbi ziyaqoqwa. Kodwa le eyokudubula e e Duze mfowethu.Siyadubula/Siyavikela !!!

Konje udume ngokusukelana Duze.
Wothi kengithi yoko kancane ngiphume kuwe, i reggae kaShaya FM iyangilolozela.

JJ ngisaphila mfowethu unjani wena nkabiyami. zisekhona ngempela inkabi awubheke nje nakhu ngixoxa nenye yazo. haa. futhi ngazibona kahle inkabi. ungazizwa zikhulumela phezulu, khululeka akukholutho. ungazizwa zikhulumula phansi nguuu nguuuuu wuuuu, hamba kubi. ayoshaywa yileyo elamulayo. uzwa ithi myekeni boo, anikahleni boo. yiyokanye ezokudibha phansi ngenhlamvu.

kodwa inhlonipho zinayo inkabi. itshaya phansi ngedolo ikubize ngobhudi haa yingozi.

kodwa nkabi iBekton ikuphi. mina angihlali eLondon ngingaphandle. ngempela ngiyafisa ukuyohuba mfowethu. phela ngalesiyasikhathi ngomcimbi weNkosi ngeza nge sat nav. yavela yathi you have reached your destination phakathi komgwaqo. kwafanele ngehle ngibuze abelungu ukuthi iphi lendawo. abanye bathi kungani kungena road name. ngasengithi ngaze ngabayisilima. ngasengithi kudlalwe ngathi. ngabuza omunye umlungu wavela wakhupha imobile fone yakhe wacofacofa wangilayela. le sat nav yavela yangishiya in the midle of the road. so ufake iroad name mfowethu angihlali eLondon. sala kahle Mthwakazi omuhle. kungathi abafowethu beZapu bangahlangana kahle mhawumbe bona sebediniwe yikuxoxisana namaTshona. besebebuya ngolunye unyawo phela siyaphela siyahlupheka sigcwele all over the world not because of our failures but because our master the Tshona is messing up. when will we ever be the masters of our own destination?

Ngiba nokudumala okukhulu uma madoda senenza lenkundla yezibongo eyenye into ngoba phela la abantu abachaza ngezibongo aba thatha inxexheba la.

Thina esifuna ukwazi ngezbongo zethu siba nenkinga.

Nakuba ninelungelo lokukhuluma noma yini eniyifunayo kodwa kubalulekile ukuhlonipha elethu.

Vulani esinye isihloko sokulala madoda.

NGIYEMA LAPHO
OKATHABIZOLO UMNTWANA

OkaThabizolo kunjani mfo. xola mfo if ngikuphazamisili. bengingaqondile ukuphoxa umoya wakho. ngiyaxolisa mfowethu. kanti nguwena owaqala isihloko lesi. cha mfo kuphazamisekile ngokuthi ngisuke ngikhulume ngokunye okungaqondene lesibongo.

kuthiwa injobo enhle ithungelwa ebandla. buza mfo bayokutshela abaziyo mina angazi lutho mfo ngezibongo manga mabi. xola mfowethu. salakahle. kodwa yini engiyishiloyo ekuhambe kabi kangaka mfowethu?

Good Duze! Wenze kahle S'khokho ngokuxolisa, no better magic than to say sorry, ngihlala ngitshumayela abanengi ngepower ka :I am sorry. Kuyimpucuko enkulu lokho.
Uzoxola umuntu weNkosi.

Lami ngiphinde ngithi maluju kaThabizolo, uyazazi lawe impelaviki nsizwa yakithi. Sethuka sekunguMvulo obonvu.

Akula nto embi la ngitsho lakancane. Ma ufuna ukubuza ngesibongo esithile it does not matter what is written in the thread before. Manengi amathread la aqalise ngesihloko esithize ecine sokungokunye and there is nothing wrong or there has been nothing wrong with that. Lingaboziyekelela ngoba akululnganga.

Interesting views and opinions on the oringins of surnames, so far ngifunde okukhulu mayelana nendabuko yezibongo.

Ngiyethemba ukuthi ngizothola uncedo kule forum

Isibongo sami u Lukhozi. I am looking for the origin of this surname yakwa Lukhozi nesithakazelo sakhona.

Anyone have a clue? Ngizojabulela uncedo lwenu, it will mean a lot to me.

Ngiyabonga

Bafowethu ngiyejabula uma nibona impazamo lapho niphazame khona phela lapha siyakhana.

Kusho ukukhula nokuphusa komqondo ukwazi ukubona iphutha.

Mfoka Lukhozi sisazo bheka uma sesitholile singeze sakuncisha ulwazi

Yimi Ozithobayo
UmfokaThabizolo

mfowethu kunjani namhlanje. angithi uma sithi isizwe sakithi sinenhlonipho abantu bathi siyaziqhenya. isintu sakwaMthwakazi sihle mfo. sinobuntu thina. asithukani uma singaboni ngasolinye. angithi kwawena awuthukana. so why must thina kumele sikuthuke. it was just that no one knew that the particular heading was strictly for izibongo.

Bafowethu

Lapha ngimema zonke izingane zakwaDladla ukuba sidingade imvelaphi yethu kanye nezithakazelo ngokwahluka kwazo. Ngiyazi ukuthi sidabuka kwaMbatha. Kodwa ulwazi lwami alunzulu kangakho.

Uzwakala ungumuntu onolwazi futhi ozethembayo, ngiyakuthanda lokho. I just discovered ukuthi ngingowakwa Khuzwayo ngokozalo ( ekhabo'baba ) Uma unolwazi ngezibongo nomsuka ngingathi okusamlanjwana nje walesisibingo, ngiyafisa ukwazi kabanzi ngemvelaphi yami

SANIBONA, NGOBANI OONDABA,TSHIBASE, BHADELA?

OkaMhayise uthi:

Nakho okuncane enginakho okwamanje:
Gumede!
Qwabe!
Mnguni kaYeyeye
Khondlo!
Osidlabehlezi bakaPhakathwayo
Abathi bedla babebeyenga umuntu ngendaba
Bethi "Dluyeya ngenhlana, umalokazana ubeyethe kayikhuni
sidingida yoyodaba kanti bahlinza imbuzi!"
Malandela ngokulandela izinkomo zamadoda!

UQwabe no Zulu amadodana kaMalandela kaLuzumane kaMnguni kaYeyeye.
UQwabe yizibulo ebeselanywa uZulu kunina uNozinja. UNozinja wayethanda uZulu kakhulu wabesemsiza ukuqoqa imfuyo eningi okwenza kubekhona ukungezwani phakathi kwalezelamani uma uMalandela ekhothama. Kunokuthi kuchitheke igazi uZulu,uNozinja nabanye ababethanda uZulu bahlukana noQwabe bayakofuna amadlelo aluhlaza enxenye. Lezizizwe zaqhubeka zehlukene kwaze kwaba sesikhathini seLembe, uDlungwane woMbelebele,uMlilo wothathe uShaka kaSenzangakhona.Ngalesikhathi uPhakathwayo ubeyinkosi yakwaQwabe. Ilembe layiphaka yaqonda kwaQwabe eyakwaZulu, uPhakathwayo ubengalindele ukuthi kungenzeka ahlulwe kulempi ngoba ayemaningi amabutho akhe kwazise ukuthi esakwaQwabe kade kuyisizwe esikhulu impela. Kodwa indlela yokulwa kweLembe yayingakajwayeleki ngalesosikhathi, uPhakathwayo weza nabesifazane nezingane enkundleni, wahlala ethunzini ephethe nokhamba ecabanga ukuthi uzonqoba masinyane kanti akabuzanga elangeni. Wehlulwa ngaphambi kokuba alwe uPhakathwayo, kuthiwa wanelewezwa ukuthi wehluliwe wabulawa uvalo(shock). UDlungwane wabeseqoqa sonke isizwe sakwaQwabe saba yinxenye kaZulu. Ngenkathi sekubusa iSilo saseMgungundlovu uDingani kaSenzangakhona uNqetho owayeyinkosi yakwaQwabe kwadingeka ashiye elakwaMthaniya ayekwelamaMpondo ngenxa yokuthi uDingane ubecoboshisa bonke ababezwana noShaka, wehlulwa uFaku emaMpondweni wabesebuyelakwaZulu lapho afike wabulawa uDingani.
UKhuzwayo ngenye yamakhosi akwaGumede ayebusa engakacatshangwa nakucatshangwa uPhakathwayo. Nazi ezinye izibongo eziphuma kwaQwabe/Gumede:
Maphanga
Khuzwayo
Makhanya
Gcabashe
Mzimela

Yilokhu okuncane engikwaziyo ngabakwaKhuzwayo (Mnguni kaYeyeye!) abavela kwaQwabe/Gumede.

Mhayise!Ngwanya!Siyendana!Cebisa!Ngele!Bogama abavala umnyango ngamakhanda amadoda! Mgogodlana!

Ngiyabonga kakhulu wakwethu, akufani nokungazi lutho. Ungathi inkosi ingakwandisela kwinjula yolwazi onalo.

Regards
Mduduzi

Kelingitshele kahle ngesibongo sakoMhlanga. Thina singamandebele kaMzilikazi. Silenking ngoba sizwa abanye bethi SingaManguni, amanguni wona athi singamahole. Ubaba uthi sidabuka kwaZulu. U Gogo uthi sidabuka kwaVenda. Omunye umkhulu uthi singaMaTshangane. Izangelo zethos ayisizo ezakwaGasela ingabe Khebezi nge zako

Ntini
Mbezothuli
Somabhulane kMdlongwa
Endlebe zikhanyilanga

Sizani zihlobo!

bakithi, bengicela ukuthi ningitshele izithakazelo zakwa Mabena,Mbuduma! kubalulekile lokhu khimi.

Sanibonani Ngimusha Enkundleni Bengicela Ongangi nceda Ngesi bongo nange zithakazelo zakwa "SIQEBENGU, Njomboni,Langa, Khuboni" Noma umuntu owaziyo ngokuthi si velaphi nginga jabula impendulo zenu.

Ngyabingelela, mfoka Mvelase nenkundla iyonke lekelelani. Ngifisa ukwazi ukuthi mina njengo Mthembu Ngihlanganiswa yini noSthole? yena kakade uphumaphi? plz sizani.