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ZANU PF MAN: Simba Makoni humiliated


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By Lebo Nkatazo
Last updated: 02/05/2008 04:31:20
ZIMBABWE’S former finance minister Dr Simba Makoni has been humiliated by his Zanu PF party after being barred from contesting primary elections in his home turf of Manicaland.

Makoni wanted to challenge for Makoni Central against Justice Minister Patrick Chinamasa, but he has now been told he submitted his CV late and will not be considered.

Makoni will sharply feel the snub personally after deciding against challenging President Robert Mugabe in elections due in March.

For months, Makoni was courted by President Mugabe’s rivals looking to open up fissures in Zanu PF by sponsoring defections.

Makoni is said to have met Mugabe two weeks ago, shortly followed by his submission of his CV.

Zanu PF’s Manicaland provincial spokesman Kenneth Saruchera said: “Makoni submitted his CV after the cut-off date and was disqualified.”

Meanwhile several ministers and sitting MPs are likely to lose their seats in on-going Zanu PF primary elections, Zanu PF’s political commissar Elliot Manyika revealed Monday.

"There are indications that there will be shocks in some areas. Some provinces are through with the primary elections while others are still to complete the exercise," Manyika said.

"We will be announcing election results starting from Tuesday. We will be making them public because we have nothing to hide. We want it to be clear to everyone that democracy thrives in our party."

The state-run Herald newspaper said at least three ministers had lost their seats in Mashonaland East province.

Education, Sport and Culture Minister Aeneas Chigwedere (Hwedza), Defence Minister Sydney Sekeramayi (Marondera East), Youth Minister Ambrose Mutinhiri (Marondera West), Health Minister David Parirenyatwa (Murehwa North) and Science Minister Olivia Muchena (Mutoko South) are the possible victims of the Zanu PF primaries.

Musician Elias Musakwa pulled an upset in Bikita South, upstaging sitting MP Claudious Makova while in Bikita East the incumbent Kennedy Matimba lost to former MP Walter Mutsauri.

Elections in Bulawayo were postponed last Friday after violent clashes between rival factions.
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Mana kengiyikhangelisise, sounds interesting. I guess the MDC factions will be compelled to join this guy. Mana ngiyikhangelisise.

I also understand Dabengwa is in this Makoni faction

Yebo sekunjalo? Angazi kodwa kimi it's a non-event indaba le. Ngeke ngithatheke ngezinto ze zanu. I headline engiyifunayo ngethi "Skuvethe launches/declares independence/restoration programme for Mthwakazi at Luveve Stadium". Liyang'thola?

Hayi amasimba ka Simba.

Kunjalo-nje, ibambeni, lingay'yeki. Zabalaza!

Skuvethe

Your wished for headline is hilarious in its absurdity.

Uyabona wena noZwangendaba are two of a kind. I guess you are an office bearer kwi MPC yenu yansondo! Yinsangu yodwa nje lena.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

Hawu Muntu, your guess is absurd in its hilarity!

Kodwa-ke, ngiyakwamukela futhi nsizwa yakithi la ekhaya-iNkosi ibe [l]awe la es'gungwini sethu, uxoxe ngoku hlonipha ebadaleni.Hlal' uyibambile!

Back to amasimba ka Simba, uyawakholelwa ngempela?

Ibambe, ungay'yeki. Hlonipha!

Skuvethe

I've reiterated on countless occasions before ukuthi mina gcokama lakwaNdonga, isi shwapha sikaSomkhele, angi ngeni ngandawo kwi polotiki yase zweni lobubha. I'm only an independent observer, purely to foist a culture of ukuxukuzisa ugebhezi kinina zishoshovu, zigagayi zomzabalazo waKwaM-g-o-d-o-y-i. Angi chemeli hlangothi. Ngoku njalo, angikwazi uku kholelwa kule nyovanyova kaMakoni.

Be that as it may, wena noZwangendaba have over the years reduced yourselves to comical levels laph' esigungwini. I lay the blame on your doorsteps for having hoodwinked the oldman river (Zwangs) to fall hook, line & sinker into iphupho lakho le Mthwakazian secessionist enclave elingeze lafa lafezeka. That you vehemently & incessantly remain steadfast okholweni lwe secession kude kube namhlanje proves that, you're either a liar or a delusional fool.

Akukh' okunye.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

Bafowethu.

HAwu, hawu, hawu we Shamase. hk hk hk hk, Awukangibingeleli Mtonga wakwethu. Awutsho lokuthi vika Ngedla ngingakakutshayi? Hawu, hawu hawu bo? Hawu, MUTONGA ONGELAKUDLA hk hk hk.

Kunjani ke jaha lakwethu. Wena sincela mbele munye, anginani loba ungithuka. Imenya yakho yesi SHONA sewayixotsha na? Ngibone kwenye i POSTING ukhuluma njengo Mthwakazi uqobo, uthi wena "HOW TO GROOM LEADERSHIP?" Ungangitsheli ukuthi ubusilibazisa nje.

Mina ngisaphila mfanyana. Uzibazile kuhle induku zakho okwamanje na? Asifuni umuntu okhalalayo angani yisalukazi.

Welcome back I dont know for the how manth time. Kodwa welcome back. YISIXAXA lesi, kuseNKUNDLENI.

Li Zwangendaba.

Into yabo Simba le....NGAMASIMBA NJE amnyama awe mbongolo. Kodwa wena Muntongenakudla usuke ungibulale ngembambo ngenkulumo zakho uma senihlangene no Skuvethe. Into yezwe leliya ifana nenja ezixakeleneyo. Namhlanje amaShona aphika uMgodoyi bathi ngowase Malawi. Kambe kwehlukane kanjani nalo mlungu uJudas owaphika wathengisa indodana ka Nkulunkulu ngo 30c? Nanku 'mhlola.

Baphika inkosi yabo uMgodoyi ngoba isizuze kwanuka umhlaba wonke kwanuka umuzi wonke. Isuze oweqaqa yaze yazitshekela. No Simba naye uzosuza futhi kunuke njengalokhu uMorgan wasuza kudala.

Inkinga bafowethu ngibona sengathi yiyo leyo ephawulwa ngu Muntu ukuthi leli phupho lingase lihlale liyiphupho. Kungaba nenguquko uma uJZ elithatha eMzansi. Masikhwezeleni inkuni. Izizwe ezingena mlandu ocacileyo ngezombuso ziyadideka zihlome izizwe othangweni ngoba zihlulwa wubuholi. Nangu uThabo!!

Ntombankala

uyayikhwezela ubuye uyenyule. you are obviously fed up ngepolitics zakoMgodo, kodwa uma ngikuzwa kahle nxa uphatha ngomsuzo oze weqa waba lutsheko you bring a different perspective to the whole issue surrounding uSimba Makoni.

are you in any way suggesting ukuthi, in fact, uSimba, ngokuzethula emphakathini waseZimbabwe ukuthi usesemncintiswaneni wokhetho, is indirectly providing an exit strategy, or even a soft landing, for ukhokho kaxamu loyana?

even if he were to win, you suggest, because zimbila zantabanye, angeke amjikele ngesimanga sezono zakhe azenzayo ezicitsha ilanga?

Mhlawumbe labanye bangaphawula khonalapho

Ahh kasitshiye sibili uMakoni lowo,once Zanu always Zanu,he is just going to be another Mtshwankelayi....hehehe,vele im not buying it.

This simba makoni is another way to split TOWN votes by mugabe and zanu pf, they know that makoni is not well known in the rural areas so they have offered him to stand there so people who want to vote for MDC will be confused and vote for makoni, and thereby leaving mugabe with all the rural vote to himself .........abantu bemakhaya angazi sibili ukuthi bacabanga njani, ikakhulu laba abako zvimba.
mina izinto zabo makoni labo mdc angizingeni kuyafana lomugabe konke lokhu madoda labo sisi.

[quote=vunguza]Ntombankala

<kodwa uma ngikuzwa kahle nxa uphatha ngomsuzo oze weqa waba lutsheko you bring a different perspective to the whole issue surrounding uSimba Makoni.

are you in any way suggesting ukuthi, in fact, uSimba, ngokuzethula emphakathini waseZimbabwe ukuthi usesemncintiswaneni wokhetho, is indirectly providing an exit strategy, or even a soft landing, for ukhokho kaxamu loyana?>

Uyishaye ekhaleni Vunguza. Ngithanda indlela okhethe ngayo amagama asuke acacisa ebengihlose ukukuphawula. Le "yi soft landing strategy" sekhehla. Yi "indirect exit strategy" njengukutsho kwakho. Ngabantu banye laba kanti njalo naye uSimba uzosebenzisa igama le ZANUPF. Kungani? Angazi ke ukuthi yini eyakhulunywa phakathi kwakhe uSimba waze waguqa phambi kwa [mgabe].

Ngiyalibona ikhehla libuza ukuthi, "Manje wena uyavuma ukuthi ukhethwe ukuba ngumholi weZANUPF kodwa kube yimina engibusayo? "Ngiyavuma nkosi" kusho uSimba. "Uma uvuma, uzosebenzisa igama leZANUPF, njalo ungakaphindeli kunkosikazi wakho ake ngikwenze umfazi". "kulungile nkosi". "Lalela mfana,ubatshele abamaphepha iziphukuphuku lezi ukuthi uzakulwa nami, uyezwa? Yebo nkosi!!

Umbono wami uthanda ukuthi kubonakale sengathi i Opposition izobandakanya ihlangane ibe yimbumba ihluthule ukhetho lolu. Bakubonile abe ZANUPf ukuthi uma kusetshenzwa ngekhehla, bazodliwa. Kwase kuphuthunywa kwabizwa i "rescue package" eka Simba lo. Bafowethu ngumbono wami yebo uSimba ungconywana kodwa zinyoka lezi. Dont say its a "baby mamba" Yimamba le. Izokubulala.

Singakhohlwa ukuthi uMgodoyi wayemthanda uSimba lo. Ngumuntu wakhe. Waqala nini uMgodoyi ukukhumelana umlotha nalubaba? Kudala. USimba wayengumfana kaMgodoyi nini nanini. Wondliwa ngu [mgabe]. Ngoka [mgabe]. Ufakwe ngu [mgabe] e SADC. Wayephethe izimali zika [mgabe] njalo. UMgodoyi kamethembi uMnangagwa naye uMjuru ngoba laba bahleli bekhunjuzwa ngabakithi ngamacala akhe uMgodoyi. USimba ke yena uzosebenza ngaphansi kwe "system" ye ZANUPF engiyibiza ngo msuzo. Cishe wonke amasela nezigebengu zizokweseka uSimba lo. Umthetho ozosebenza ngowe ZANUPF. Abazoqhubeka besidla ngabe ZANUPF. Abanye sizomenywa nje ukuhlobisa iphalamende.

Dont forget bafowethu, uMnangagwa is "NOT VIABLE" in Matland for his Gukurahundi connection. Mujuru is "NOT VIABLE" in Matland because he ran away from ZIPRA in 1976. You cant rule that country uma i Matland is out of your locus of control. Never.

USimba is "acceptable" in Matland because nothing links him directly to Gukurahundi. Nothing except being a ZANUPF member.

Morgan is "Not viable" nationally and "our plot" to manipulate him for Matland is known. Besides Morgan is hundred percent dull.

Angimzondi uSimba bafowethu. Ngumbono wami lo. I recall telling one guy when Jacob Zuma was "expelled" by Mbeki that ZUMA was going to come back no matter what. I was convinced. He told me to visit hell since South Africa unlike Zim had a functioning legal system that was going to "nail Zuma". Later I doubted what I said when Msholozi was brought to court. But I had a convinction - a gut feeling - and this is what I have ngo Simba. Ngotsotsi laba njalo bakhaliphile. This is top shelf politics in practise by ZANUPF. On Zuma, Polokwane proved what I said.

Kusinwa kudedelwana in ZANUPF fashion. Kathathe. Kutheni kodwa engahlamuki? Kutheni?

Bafowethu labodade,

Zanu is not ruling that country right now but only and only khehla alone. Khathesi kaku sizi ukuvotela uMorgan kumbe uArthur with no political credentials or experience. What we need is someone that will rescue the situation ngoba ukuthi ukhehla aphenduke adle amahlanzo akhe - aah! ipride yakhe iyala, noma esebenzise umfana akunani bakithi yena sizabonana laye esehlezi laphaya ukuthi simthini while in the meantime the country is taking a healing process. Whoever rules I personally don't care as long as uyise wegukurahundi engasekho laphaya ilizwe leli lizavuka sibuyele emakhaya sithsiye ubugqili lobu esikubo emazweni.

EVEN SOARING EAGLES NEED A PUSH!

Ntombankala

You seem to place a lot of faith in the whole nyovanyova yaKwaMgots.

Iqiniso mfowethu wukuthi, as long as uMgots esaphila, he’ll never lose an election to anyone kuleliya zwe. He won’t lose coz vese the process yakhona is not a legitimate election - it's a sham. As such, even if the opposition were to unite under one leader & challenge Mgots, he’ll beat them hands down. So he’s not even scared of a united opposition because umkhoshokhosho wakhe will see him romp home to victory.

Coming to the Simba Makoni issue. Simba will never win against Mgots. Mgots doesn’t need a “soft landing” through Simba. Mgots is not even terrified of any electoral defeat or mutiny within his ranks. And Simba is not even a genuine candidate. Uzo khumbula ukuthi 2 weeks ago Makoni met Mgots one on one & distanced himself from leading a breakaway group. After that, (or is it before), he tried unsuccessfully to file his CV for a primary election kubo. Kunjalo nje, Skhanyiso then labelled him a sellout. Gwiqiqi, izolo sengi mbona kwi TV ethi ene, uzo qhudelana 9 9 no Mgots kwi election. And he hasn’t even resigned from Zanu PF. That doesn’t make sense.

Shamase Nkwali yenkosi

noone can tell the truth about Simba and his purpoted presidential bid, we can only speculate, allow me to make my wild speculation. Simba has said that he is to use ZANU PF name and symbols in his presidential bid.
He also said that he will stand as an independent.
yeyeni madoda, lobaba udla ngabantu.
In Zim the majority of voters reside in rural areas and Simba Makoni has no grassroots support. Mugabe enjoys huge support in MaShonaland rural areas and lacks support in urban areas.
Makoni is most likely to attract the urban VOTE, where the opposition enjoys massive support.
The other thing is that the MDC was contamplating on boycotting the elections which was going to effectively deem them illegimate elections.
Now through Simba, Mugabe has forced the MDC into the race, if they boycotted now, it woud be non-event in the eyes of Mugbe and SADC and other organisations of the world. Both MDCs were outfxed and they are still being outfoxed by Mugabe.

[quote=Muntongenakudla]Ntombankala

<You seem to place a lot of faith in the whole nyovanyova yaKwaMgots.>

Ngivumelana nawe lapha empeleni ukuthi uMgodoyi ngeke adliwe kuma elections. Kuyiqiniso lokho. Njalo uSimba lo ngumuntu othunywe nguye uMgodoyi. USikhanyiso uhlulwa ngu mfana lo u Charamba. Kazi lutho uSikhanyiso wenkosi.

Kodwa phela uMgodoyi ubenovalo lokuthi uma kubadakanye wonke amaqembu aphikisa iZANUPF, kungase kube nzima ukuntshontshwa kwamavoti. Kodwa uSimba wenza kube lula. Ngani? Ngoba "he dilutes" ivoti. USimba usehlangothini luka [mgabe]. Zibanjwa ngezikudlayo. Ufakwe laphaya uSimba ukuthi akhulume amasimba athi uzophikisa uMgodoyi. Kanti cha. Kuthiywe abanamawala nalo lonke uquqaba oluzonda uMgodoyi. lolu quqaba luzaphaphatheka "votiyani" luthi "sivotele uSimba" lutho - lobe luvotele uMgodoyi lungazi. Lobe luvotele amasimba. Uyayibona lento? Ngithe ngicacise lapho. Bathiywe abantu ngo Simba.

Uma ngithi ngumsuzo lokhu okukhulunywa ngu Simba ngibonisa ukuthi ayikho linto ayikhulumayo. Kudlalwa ngabantu. Eqinisweni awukho umqhudelwano phakathi kwakhe no [mgabe]. Uzosebenzisa iZANUPF eka [mgabe]. Lokhu kukhomba ukuthi naye ungu [mgabe]. Uzozibonela imiphumela yale election izoba ngu 50:50. Phela kuhloswe i national unity. Ngeke kuqhutshekelwe phambili ngalesisimo. Yilapho oSimba abazosetshenziswa khona.

Ngakho ke iSimba strategy is a "soft landing strategy". Khumbula ukuthi uMgodoyi wakubona okwenzakala kuThabo njalo nguye owokuqala umhlaba wonke who congratulated uJZ. Ngani? Gwiqiqi usengojabulela idemocratic process kwelinye ilizwe!! Ngeke. He now needs "acceptance" uMgodoyi. Kukhaliphile okungumuntu lokhuya.

Kanti umaSimba lo wayengaphi sibulawa?Nga amaphepha akhe eMakoni bawamukele indaba yakhe le asitshela yona ubezayihambisa njani?Uthunyiwe!!!

Madoda asikhohlweni ngokuqalisa ukubuza ukuthi umntu wayengaphi. remember ukuthi umfana lo laye wayemcane ngesikhathi ejoyina izanu. sonke sasisemaphathini obaba ababe kiyo. We need those people who can realize they are moving on the wrong boat. And remember these are the people who ccan show us where umfukula wali nhlathu lie before another one comes. All what we can do is to try and see whether he is a genuine reformer or spy

Bafowethu.
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Ngincindezele.FROM Mu TONGA Ongela SKUNDLA.>> "Iqiniso mfowethu wukuthi, as long as uMgots esaphila, he’ll never lose an election to anyone kuleliya zwe. He won’t lose coz vese the process yakhona is not a legitimate election - it's a sham. As such, even if the opposition were to unite under one leader & challenge Mgots, he’ll beat them hands down. So he’s not even scared of a united opposition because umkhoshokhosho wakhe will see him romp home to victory."<< ngime ukuncindezela.
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Hawu young man river, mfana wase east, msholazi, lapha ukhuluma njenge ndoda. Asiyibambeni zihlobo.

Li Zwangendaba.