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#36567 - 03/06/08 03:18 PM
sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 03/03/08
Posts: 2
Loc: south africa(e.c)
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sithini bantu baka mthwakazi ngentombi zasekhaya komthwakazi ezithi nxa sezihluphelkile ngemali kukeli elikamroja njengoba vele singayitholi sonke, qede zendele le enzawini ngoba phela zona inzawu zisaziwa ngokuhlala zile sbhanzi.ngabe kuyinto enhle lokhu?ngibona mina sengathi yikudayisa imuli kamthwakazi kanye laye ugodlwayo omuhle.ake sixoxeni ngaloludaba.kambe isizwe sethu singatshabalala sibhekile na?
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#36568 - 03/06/08 04:00 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: bafana22]
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Ndunankulu
Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 653
Loc: Mtubatuba
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Yee Bafana, awusho:yini inzawu lezo?
Kungathi uza nge topic engizo yithanda ke mina kaNkwali. You see I love lezo zihloko ezithe phecelezi. Ngivele ngingene kuzo ngo mdlandla, ngo jacket wami lona omdala, owaklejulwa yizinja, wabhulwa yimvula, ilanga namakhaza for 3 years!
Shamase Nkwali yenkosi Umicondo yegusha! U-jacket lika 3 years!
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uShamase wangempela!
Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga!
Igcokama likaNdonga.
Isishwapha sikaSomkhele.
Yangcol' into ngayintshinga - bayicosha abafokazana!
Futheka mnyekefuli.
Ngiwuphula ngamabomu umoya wakho - yilento ekubulalayo!
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#36578 - 03/06/08 05:27 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: bongani]
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 03/05/08
Posts: 2
Loc: South Africa
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Madoda lokhu okwenziwa ngodade kunzima. Angsoze ngithi kubi ngoba lami phela kungafika lakimi abazukulu sebeqanqatha lokungabantu lokhuyana kodwa madoda kwenzenjani. Omunye usisi ngamuzwa esithi Ah kanti lifuna sife ngendlala emaNdebeleni? Ngaphongwenza angathi agizwanga kodwa madoda kunzima lokhu. Asikukhangeleni ngeso labo odade sibe sesisithi kamf-kamfu .Hayi kunzima.......Abanye bathini?
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#37477 - 04/16/08 01:39 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: KaZazanana]
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 08/17/07
Posts: 87
Loc: Mawaba
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Le eyabodadewethu ibuhlungu kakhulu,kodwa mina,umfowethu engizalwa laye wayiqonda imonster elitshona wayikhombisa,yamala waphikelea kwaze kwamvuma okuyi nunu kwakhona,ngikhuluma so,bahlala bonke,kodwa akelingitshele,e-worse phakathi kweyayabo dadewethu,lale eyabafowethu abenza engathi oNomathemba laboSihle abekho,begijimise oRudo labo Dorcas(yes its a shona name),yiphi?
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#37488 - 04/16/08 07:54 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: Muntongenakudla]
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Sikhulu
Registered: 03/16/08
Posts: 299
Loc: uk
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muntuongenakudla kunjani? kanti ngempela unjani? inzawu leyo oyibuzayo nguwena wedwa ongayaziyo. okukhomba sobala ubuwena. uthi uthanda izinto ezithe phecelezi? yini ethe phecelezi lapho? uvela weqele udaba ungalwazi kanti unjani? uyadlala thina siphela? uthi kuyahlekisa thina siphela? wena uyangidina uyazi, uyisicefe uyazi. awakhi. uyabhidliza. uyona. kodwa ke usuyazi ukuthi singuMthwakazi sinjani. asikuxhoshi uzozihambela wena ngokwakho ngoba uhleli nabantu abangacabangi njengawe, abangafani nawe njalo abangahambisani nawe. salakahle uhlale nathi sizokufundisa ukuziphatha kahle.izembatho ziyatshintshwa ndoda. ungaqhoki into for 3 years. kodwa phela iningi lenu nivele linjalo. umuntu wakhona noma enemali ube elokhu engcolile. angikusoli ufuze abakwenu
Edited by duze (04/16/08 07:59 PM)
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#37490 - 04/16/08 08:18 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: Mahlab'ayithwale]
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Sikhulu
Registered: 03/16/08
Posts: 299
Loc: uk
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bafowethu ngiyanibingelela nonke lalikhona izindawo nezindawo. la ukhona unguMwthakazi ngiyakubingelela. loludaba lokushadela enzawu mina ngithi labo abafuna ukuya mabaye. yilokhu okuthiwa yiliberty. asinqabeli muntu. kodwa umuntu kuyadingeka ukuthi simazise ukuthi uzifaka entweni enjani. lomhlobo awufani nathi and awusifuni. isiko labo nelethu lihluke kakhulu kangangokuthi abaningi ababuya khona bayazisola. kubi ngendlalayokuthi uma usacabanga ngakho zincede uvele ungalingi.akusekho zinsizwa emhlabeni wethu sezagoduka zonke.sokwa sala khona kodwa. okunye nje yimikhuhlane. lababantu basizonda ngendlela exhakileyo, angeke ngimangala ma kungathiwa lengculaza bayihlanyelangapha ngakithi ngamabomu. so ofuna ukuyazifaka angaya kodwa azi.
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#37491 - 04/16/08 09:13 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: bafana22]
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 03/28/08
Posts: 88
Loc: UK
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Hayi ke ngiyayithanda lindaba yeNzawu.The first time l heard about inzawu was more than 20 years ago sifunda incwadi ku 'O' ethiwa 'Abaseguswini Lezothamlilo'.Ngazi zitholakalaphi incwadi ezimnandi njengaleya.Owaziyo kancede.The expression that I liked and used often then when l am suspicious of people or their actions was 'nzawu bani le;makhala ngumuntu ?'which was said by an elderly nzawu referring to its carer who was u muntu-muntu.l introduced this statement to my friends and brothers and they liked it.It became our operational lingo ma sesigcwigwiza ikakhulu masesixubene ezindaweni.
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#37496 - 04/17/08 01:35 AM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: KaZazanana]
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 03/28/08
Posts: 88
Loc: UK
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Kgabo ,Silosasezintabeni,Zazanana enkulu,Lagalala omhlophe ngamabomo,nanzelela ukuthi kuyibukhosi bethu zinsizwa zikaMthwakazi ukuthi sizale lalowo lalowo esifisa ukuzala laye. YiNkatha esayetheswa ngumzilakawulandelwa,iNkosi yohlanga uMzilikazi uqobo lwakhe ngesikhathi esakha isizwe sakhe. Khumbula ukuthi wehla wenyuka egulukudela imimmango emide okweminyaka eminengi njalo ehamba esilwa le zizwe ezinengi ezinjengabeSuthu lamaBhunu waze wayokuwa kwelikaMmambo.Kambe babengaphi abafazi bakwaZulu labantwana phezu kommango lezimpi ezingaka?Khumbula ukuthi iNkosi uTshaka bathi yayilocuku kakhulu okungangokuthi yayi ngavumeli ukuthi amabutho athathe abafazi baze babeleminyaka engamatshumi amane.Kusobala ukuthi amabutho kaMzilikazi azikhulula (ngaphezu kokunye okunengi) kulelijogwe ngokutshona le enhla (lapho esakhele khona manje) ,kodwa bangaki abasuka lemitshado lezimmuli zabo koZulu zaze zayafika kwelikaMmambo?
Khumhula futhi ukuthi amaviyo abephuma esiyaphanga izinkomo kanye labafazi kwelikaMmambo kuzokwakhiwa isizwe seNkosi.Labo bafazi bebengazali amaLozwi bebezala a MaNdebele, umfazi kalabuhole ngesintu,ihole yindonda.Asibogogo bethu na? Inzalabantu ukutsho.Khumbula futhi ukuthi intombizakhona zilokhalo.
Basically, the point is; it may not be desirable but it is tolerated for a Ndebele guy to marry intombi yezizwe but it is not acceptable for intombi zakithi ukuthi ziyegana ezizwenini.Okokuqala intombi zakithi zimbalwa njalo ziligugu kithina.Okwesibili mazisiyagana ezizweni kazamukelwa ngokugcweleyo,zivamise ukubuya back okungamadoda kwakhona sekuzithathela obakibo.On the contrary, for those few abezizwe abathathwa ngamaNdebele guys ,most of them baguga size sibangcwabe ezabelweni zethu ,benjalo bekiliza isiNdebele.Umfanekiso,khangela eceleni kwamadwala angakini,uphinde uye entshonalanga duze lesikolo uzothola izalukazi ezikilizayo ezinye sezafelwa ngamadoda but bahleli comfy.In the very same area reseach a bit you will hear about 'Ndebele girl returnees'.Zilankata, zithathele anyone that you fancy ,solong the progeny is named after uZazanana, njalo umkhulise ngesintu langolimi lwakho,uyabe uzale uMthwakazi phaqa!
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#37504 - 04/17/08 02:17 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: BATHWALIBOPHAHLA]
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 03/27/08
Posts: 50
Loc: Norfolk
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Umuntu uyazikhethelela afuna ukumnika ingaphansi yakhe. As long as it is no an animal.
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#37505 - 04/17/08 02:20 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: KaZazanana]
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 03/27/08
Posts: 50
Loc: Norfolk
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Kanti abafowethu bona abathethe esitshabini lithini ngabo? baqondile yini odadewethu yibo ababi.
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#37514 - 04/17/08 04:57 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: Thabo70]
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Sikhulu
Registered: 11/06/02
Posts: 205
Loc: Zimbabwe
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Ngivumelana nawe Thabo, abantu abazikhethele bona ukuthi bazongena nobani ocansini. Kukhanya sengathi kunokubandlululwa kwabesifazane lapha. Kungani sizihlupha ngabo dadewethu labo abagane inzawu? Kuthi kangihleke ngoba leligama liyahlekisa. Sizobashada yini thina? Uma uyindoda ndoda gana noma ngubani. Sengathi lapha kunamadojeyana nje esaba ukuthathelwa ngabezinye izizwe. Thatha owakho uthule.
UMzilikazi wasixubaxubanisa isizwe saba ngamabalabala. Uye wayaphenduka le e Zambia wathola uNkulumane eseliphethe, wayesenzani namabutho akhe uKhumalo? Bathoal abafazi. Uqinisile omunye lapha othe "umfazi kanayo indoda" - ngamanye amazwi abafazi cishe ba "indifferent" ukuthi ngubani abamnika ingaphambili yabo. Ngabafazi. Akuwona msebenzi wabafazi ukwakha isizwe. Uma uyi Alpha male, you will win a woman, but an average guy, will get bones.
Njalo into ye 'homogenous" state ngeke yenzeke. Ngibona sengathi kuyinto emqoka ukuthi sikhuzane kwezinye inkulumo. Sihlangene nje lapha siyakhulisana, siyabonisana. Njengabantu abakhule bebandlululwa, kufanele sizame ngamandla ethu ukwenqabela zonke izilingo zokuba ngaba bandlululi. Isigungu lesi makube yindawo okufundiswana khona ukuhlalisana nokuhloniphana nabanye. Mhlasimbe abanye bethu bake bagula ezibhedlela umuntu wanikwa igazi "lenzawu" leyo. Usuyi nzawu nawe.
Singakhohlwa wukuthi bakhona abanye lapha abashade lezo 'nzawu" enginethemba lokuthi akubaphathi kahle uma kulahlwa imilomo kanje. Iningi lethu licasulwa ngu Mgabe besesi zonda "inzawu" zonke. Bengikwenza nami lokho kodwa liphutha nje lelo. Ngilapha ukuninxusa ukuthi uma sizahlonishwa, sibukwe njengabantu abangahola isizwe, kufanele sikhulume njengabantu abakhetha ulimi abangabukeli abanye phansi kumbe emanzini. Ngiyabonga.
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#37518 - 04/17/08 09:58 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: ntombankala]
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 03/27/08
Posts: 50
Loc: Norfolk
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Ngivumelana lawe ntombankala, ukwehlukanisa abantu ngomhlobo kuyafananje lokwehlukanisa abantu ngombala Black or white. Yinto embi kakhulu le. Umuntu ngumuntu loba eyinzawu, engumuntu omnyama kumbe omhlophe, mhloniphe ngumuntu bantu bakithi.Ngithemba uzonda udle inja umuntu engathi uyiniga. Kuyafana nje lokubandlulula abantu ngomhloba inzawu. Asihlonipheni sakheni isizwe, ilizwe, umhlaba. We are one. Kuyangihlukuluza emoyeni ukubona abantu balamuhla bethuka abanye abantu ngomhlobo inzawu. Kusisa ngiphi lokhu, kuzasibekangaphi yikho okubizwa kuthiwe yi tribe hatred. Akelixhole bantu likhule lakhe, lihlalisane leminye imihlobo. One nation one hope BakaMthwakazi.
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#37519 - 04/17/08 10:03 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 03/27/08
Posts: 50
Loc: Norfolk
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Yonke intombi iligugu,Ingaphansi iyifana nje. I nkinga yikuzwisisana abantu bahlalisane, bahloniphane.
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#37523 - 04/17/08 11:52 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: ntombankala]
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 03/28/08
Posts: 88
Loc: UK
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Haaaa! Ntombankala, uyandoyikisa
'Akuwona msebenzi wabafazi ukwakha isizwe'
Singaba yini isizwe ma omama decide to abdicate their important role e kwakheni isizwe in the name of equal rights? Omama banzinsika kumakhaya onke, yibo ababasa imililo imihla ngemihla njalo bayi londoloze ukuthi ihlale ivutha inzuku zonke, kusezabelweni kumbe emalokikitshini, obaba bengekho beyephanda kumbe nje bentula.
Note that generally women are the naturers of the family whether indoda iyozingela / iyophanga izinkomo ezizweni / iye :emlageni / emadolobheni /empini /eGoli /emigodini /or iphaphatheke yayaphephela ezizweni.Women will always preserve and develop the family unit individualy and collectively : translate that to communities and the very Mthwakazi nation that is the subject.I zinsizwa zika Mzilikazi zazingeke zimakhe UMthwakazi if women did not realise their respective role.Khumbula phela ukuthi bekungamabutho asuke eZansi ebaleka.Women have been and will always have a big role ekwakheni isizwe .
Note that uMthwakazi mncane and like many tribes around her, she is a partenal society.Intombi ma isiyagana ezizweni yikulahlekelwa ngoba inzalo yayo singeyasezizweni.Layo iba ngu Mrs..... Kulula ke ukuncipha kwesizwe ma abafazi bengakhathali ukuti leyo 'ngaphambili' ,(bengiyazi njengengaphansi ,anyway it looks like sekuyafana ; ngu 6 lo 9), yabo bayipha bani.Ngivumelana lawe ngobandlulo ukuthi kalulunga njalo lokuthi ihomogenicity ayikho , l will go futher and say ayizange vele ibekhona kwasekuqaleni ngoba sizinzalo ze melting genetic pot.But the issue here is the quest for survival as a nation particularly when faced with a an enemy that is intent to exteminate us in whatever means be it calturally,echonomically or nje ukusibhubhisa violently as recent history and current developments will tell you.Umbuzo uthi indlela intombi zakithi eziziphatha ngayo kulababantu zile effect bani ekuqinseni i power, or i abuse thereof esihlangana layo kuyo yonke i officialdom elizweni labobabomkhulu.Having explained the context and human rights observed, be the judge!
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#37524 - 04/18/08 12:41 AM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: Thabo70]
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Sikhulu
Registered: 03/16/08
Posts: 299
Loc: uk
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Thabo mfethu kunjani. mfowethu uthini manje? sihlalisane namatshona? kumnandi ukuthi sivalelwe amathuba e futher training? kumnandi ukuthi kusuke itshona le essozbele lizo fundisa osapeyi besiNdebeleni ngesitshona?
bheka la mfo lababantu sasihlala nabo basenzani? basenzani mfo? uthini uthabo manje? namhlanje amatshona alento okuthiwa yiGRAND PLAN mfowethu. lento its main aim is to finsh the Ndebele off. finish, wena uthi masihlalisane nabo.
this GRAND PLAN goes like this Thabo. 1- before the plan all factories and companies recruited their apprentices from the common market or public.what was happening was that as long as you had good results from school you would be taken by these companies. that way Ndebele or tshona you had the same chances of employment. good results eg math sand science.
the tshonas with their Grand Plan changed this. now there was to be a central command center.where any ,any company that needs to employ trainees had to apply to this central command for students. the tshonas that way could employ only their tshona brothers to be trainnees. hence odadewethu beqoma these tshonas because they have employment. thina dwee, uzekuthiwa akayi ngani eGoli ngoba upase kangaka?
2-before oprincipali nabo head master babe advethiza emaphepheni uma befuna uthisha omusha. amatshona la wena othi masihlalisane nawo ayitshintsha futhi lento acording to their grand plan. now sokufanele kube ne central command lapho izikolo ezifuna othisha kumele zi aplayele khona besezinikezwa othisha.akukumangalisi ngani ukuthi kodwa uheadmaster wakini kungani aze aqhashe itshona elingakwazi nokukhuluma u a wesindebeleni,as a temporaty teacher kube kukhona abantu obaziyo abapasayo? just to teach o sapeyi futhi kwayena iyi tempolali? kanjalo savalelwa thina maNdebele.
nursing yikho lokho
university yisoleso
police yisoleso. masihlalisane nabo sibahloniphe?
mfowethu labantu abasifuni bengasifuni. babulawa yilento abelungu abayibiza infiriority compex. umuntu wakhona uyalesaba iNdebele lingenze lutho uzihlalele nje ulapha. namanje ubona bemthanda kangaka umgabe bathi ye yendiye bulala Ndebele too much. akukholutho ongalwenza wena as a Ndebele ukuze uhlalisane namatshona ngoba uma ekubhekile njee, uzizwa ephansi. umuntu onjalo uyingozi mfethu .
so thabo mfethu ungadukisi uMthwakazi uthi masihlalisane namatshona. asiwazondi kodwa angeke sihlalisane nabo. sebesikhombisile ukuthi banjani.thina sifuna ukusuka ngaphansi kwe zimbambwe yabo cha kwaphela . asibafuni ngingazi mhlawumbe wena uyabafuna
Edited by duze (04/18/08 12:47 AM)
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#37536 - 04/18/08 12:43 PM
tshona GRAND PLAN
[Re: bafana22]
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Sikhulu
Registered: 03/16/08
Posts: 299
Loc: uk
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bafowethu niyayazi na lento?
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#37540 - 04/18/08 02:07 PM
Re: tshona GRAND PLAN
[Re: duze]
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 08/17/07
Posts: 87
Loc: Mawaba
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Duze mfowethu,zihamba njani.Uyazi this whole grand plan business is very sensitive,im surprised at Thabo,yebo u right in away we are one people,kodwa vele itshona litshona,ngaze lidunuse,lime liqonde kumbe lilale phansi kuyafana.Mina i have been a victim of this grand plan bullshit,so Thabo bra,ungasithathi angathi siyahlanya thina esavuka one beautiful morning sathi"from today,sizonda ama shona".Phela the first mistake is to think they are your brothers,they will f@#k the living day lights out of you bra wam',kodwa ma ungakahlangani lakho,or ungakabazondi,enjoy it while lt lasts,ngoba kuyeza na kuwe...
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#37545 - 04/18/08 04:07 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: BATHWALIBOPHAHLA]
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Sikhulu
Registered: 11/06/02
Posts: 205
Loc: Zimbabwe
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Mangibonge ukungibhalela kwakho. Ngigcizelela ekutheni makungabi wumsebenzi wethu ukuthi intombi zakithi zigana obani. Ngani? Ngoba kwehlisa isithunzi samadoda esiNdebeleni. Kusuke kucace ukuthi kunamanye amadoda esiNdebeleni afisa ukudlela izinkwa ezikhwameni - umuntu ecashile. Ngichazani lapha? Niyesaba ukuncintisana nabanye yini? Do we have insecure men?
Mhlasimbe kufanele sicace ngele "nzawu". Nina enisemazweni aphesheya nithathelwa amantombazana ngabelungu, Nigerian, Siera Leon, Ghana, etc, etc, nibhekile. Zinzawu nazo lezi yini? Kungathi nje lawa mashona niyawesaba. Yini ubugwala lobu obulapha?
Kwehlulani ukuthi amandebele asebenze nge "reverse thrust" nibhebhe abesifazane besishoneni ukuze iGrand Plan yabo ingafezeki? Akusoze kungimangaze ukuzwa omunye ethi, 'ungabhebha inja wena? Azikho nje zonke lezi zinto esiziphanyeka lapha. Zala abantu ziye ebantwini. True statesmanship must elevate us from ordinary hallucination. True statesmanship is typified by those who challenged slavery and racial segregatory laws in the USA, Canada, Europe, Rhodesia, South Africa, etc. You will realise that in these countries laws forbade white and black conjugal relations. But ebusuku, the same guys who were against such laws raped black men and women.
Who wants to be a bedroom policeman lapha?
I am totally opposed to 'inzawu' if it refers to amashona kuphela. Emphasis on the Grand Plan only intensifies fear that may only breed more fear. What is the counter - strategy for the Grand Plan? Lutho. Sizwa ama cry babies njalo. Amashona wona aphethe aqhubekela phambili empesela. Shona people are easy to deal with due to several weaknesses but I will not promote hatred on them at this level. Suffice to say we have to know who we are, be proud of our legacy. I know that some will remind us of Rwanda and what happened there. Good. Rwanda provides a great lesson to us. We dont want one day to trigger a Rwanda among ourselves? We would have shamed ourselves and the world.
Wonkumuntu unelungelo lokubeka umbono wakhe kodwa loludaba bakwethu bekungafanele silugqugquzele. Aluhlabusi, alunasithunzi, alwakhi. Khetho wakho 'mthandayo. Shiyana nemizi yabanye abantu.
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#37546 - 04/18/08 04:49 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: ntombankala]
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Ndunankulu
Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 653
Loc: Mtubatuba
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Ntombankala
Etuzetol - okwash' omuny' uthisha wami wakudala. Meaning "exactly".
May God bless you. The cogency & poignancy of your points is noted. Thank you very much.
Mfowethu, indaba uyibeka njengoba injalo. Kudala ngakhuza izishimane zoMthwakazi lezi ngithi: intombi uma iqoma, iqoma la ithanda khona - wena mus' ukulwa ngoba ayi qomanga wena.
Kuyi qiniso impela ukuthi kusukela kudala ngezi nsuku zobabamkhulu, indoda beyi qonywa iganwe kude le. Yilapho okwaqala khona isisho esithi: "induku enhle igawulwa ezizweni". Nalesi esithi: "zal' abantu ziye bantwini". Akukho ntombi yagan' inyamazane.
Wubu shimane boku gcina ukuthi uyindoda, ukhale uthi izintombi zakini aziku qomi , zincamela ukuqom' amasoka kwamany' amazwe. Yibugwadi boku gcina - umshipoti straight, ukubhekwa yisambane siku fak' isikhwakhwalala. Yingakho mina ngithi: zishimane zoMthwakazi wansondo, gijimani niyo shona ezinyangeni, nichathe, nigqume, niphalaze, nincinde, nikhwife - kususwe lolo khondolo lwe bhadi loku ngaqonywa kwenu.
Mina madoda angeke uze ungizwe ngikhala ngithi: ye, ye izintombi zakithi azingi qomi ngami. Cha. Mina ngivele ngithi take the bull by the horns, ngisus' igwababa, ngeshele, ngiqonywe wherever I am. IsiZulu sithi: "umlomo yishoba loku ziphungela". Sibuye njalo sithi: "umsheli akana ngebhe". Ingebhe meaning uvalo - for the benefit of those esengi badukele eshashalazini. Kufundwa uze ufe madoda.
Yeshelani madoda, niqonywe, nivus' imizi yo yihlo.
And then before I go, may I hasten to caution ukuthi, yeyi abe simame laba sometimes they're very sadistic. UMzikayifani Buthelezi, isihlabani so maskandi sisho kahle uma sithi: "uthando kaluboni - lukufaka noma kuse hlathin' uthando!". Yingakho bhasopani madoda - sometimes the girl of your dreams may prove to be your worst nightmare.
Umhlab' ubolile, abantu bane nkohlakalo. Ano gawula nibheka - kubi la ngaphandle.
Shamase Nkwali yenkosi Umicondo yegusha U-jacket lika 3 years!
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uShamase wangempela!
Umqwashisi - impohlo engenankinga!
Igcokama likaNdonga.
Isishwapha sikaSomkhele.
Yangcol' into ngayintshinga - bayicosha abafokazana!
Futheka mnyekefuli.
Ngiwuphula ngamabomu umoya wakho - yilento ekubulalayo!
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#37548 - 04/18/08 07:47 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: Muntongenakudla]
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Sikhulu
Registered: 03/16/08
Posts: 299
Loc: uk
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muntongenakudla kunkani. nina matshona nisivalela imisebenzi niqhashana nodwa ngaleGrand Plan yenu.izintombi zisosiqoma kanjani singomahlalela? uyayazi igrand plan yenu yokusivalela yonke indawo yize sifundile. ungazenzi umuntu ongazi nge plan yenu. siyafunda sipase kuphelele lapho.laba abesiNdebeleni abniqomayo beza sebebulawa yi aids nama std. bayazisola kukumanje bayazisola. akaqome itshona ofunayo thina siyawahlonipha amalungelo oluntu. kodwa umuntu azi ukuthi uzifaka entweni enjani. egehena. futhi akusibo bonke abathandana netshona. babaningi abaziqhenya ngokuthi inkomo ingazala umuntu ngempela.
mina engibaziyo bagana amatshona bayafa kukumanje.bashiwa nezingane nemikhuhlane. mina ngakengabona intombi ebunjwe kahle kwa Bulawayo ngesikhathi kudlala amaSoul Brothers, ngathi ,sakubana sisi ,ngezwa kwerekwere , ngathi sorry sisi . ngashiyana nakho. kungasahleki nje kukhombisa ukujabula. umfowethu, hawu , kwenzenjani? ngathi ngokulitshona. wathi wenze kahle. angikufuni ngingakufuni. ngamangala ukuthi kudingani la. noma kungaba njani,cha isintu sami sihluke kakhulu nakho.
umfowethu wafika kwa Bulawayo wathandana netshona. wathi uyashada ikhehla lashaya phansi ngenduku. langihlekisa umu lithi kumfo, wakewasibonaphi isalukazi sakwachivengari? akuphelanga nsuku zatshwala weza umfowethu ekhefuzela ethi uchivengari umbace enamathelane nenye insizwa ekhoneni. lomuntu ufunukushada umfowethu kodwa usanamathelana nezinye insizwa beqabuzana emakhoneni. shame. kodwa phela lisiko lakubo singathini thina.
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#37552 - 04/18/08 10:01 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: bongani]
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 03/27/08
Posts: 50
Loc: Norfolk
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Mfowethu intombi yami ngeyesintwini okugcweleyo ngumuntu esakhula sonke sidlala sonke kobulawayo. Umbono wami yilo asingabandlululi. Mina ngahamba ekolitshina lako Bulawayo, Ngazalwa phakathi kwe Lupane le nkayi ngiqedalapho ngaya ekolitshina eharare. I did not apply at the college in Bulawayo, on the day the college opened I just went there, we were too many ndebele shona you name it. The Vice Principal said I want people with maths and science at A Level most of the people left less than 10 people remained I was one of them. i was then interviwed by the Principal who was Shona. I was offered a place and including one ndebele man.At that time we were just two from Matabeleland. In My class there were 12 ndebeles out of 60. When we finished the first two years I applied to study further I was offered a place in Harare including 4 man i was with in the same class. However the 4 ndebele guys did not turn up for further studies the lecturer mentioned thier names for week when he was arking the rigister. If I new where they lived i could have contacted them. In harare at they were just 4 people from matebelend in my class out of about 20 people. If those guys had come we might have been 8 or more. So can you blame grand plan for that. When I was doing O level, one of my teachers was from matebelend, he was lazy he will come in the class room and insult people especially girls instead of teaching us. Abazali bethu bona bethengisa izifuyo zabo besifundisa. Siku form three Umphathi waye ngowesindebeleni abanye abantwana bahamba kumbathi bambikela ukuba umbalisi akafundisi. umpathiwabiza umbalisi wathi abantwana labo bantshele umbalisi phambi kwakhe ukuthi akafundisa. Abantwana labo batshaywa ngumbalisa lowo. Sathi sesiku form 4, umbalisi wayengaguqulanga ukwenza kwakhe inhlanhla yethu Umphathi waye seyi Nzawu leyo. Mina ngaba ngomunye walabo abahamba baya mtshele umphathi ukuthi umbalisi akenzi umsebenzi. Umbalisi waguquku waqala ukufundisa, wazama ukuphanda ukuthi ngobani abahamba kumphathi, akawatholanga amagama ethu kazange abekwazi, ngakho thina asitshayelwanga ilungelo lethu. Ngisenza i O level mina kunombolo lesayensi ngaphathiswa zinzawu azizange zithi ngikhokhe imali. Ngiyazi ncoma lezonzawu njalo ngiyazihlonipha. Inzawu ezazingababalisi bami zazingazi khona ukukhulu isindebele, but they made a huge difference in my life.Abantu abafani bafowethu, ngiyavuma ukuthi ezinye inzawu zimbi njengo Mgabe. Kodwa ezinye zinhle. Kuyafana nje lesintwini, lakwezinye izizwe. Bayeke odawethu, labafowethu bahlale labantu ababakhethileyo.
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#37553 - 04/18/08 10:02 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: ntombankala]
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 03/28/08
Posts: 88
Loc: UK
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Ntombankala,ukhiphe amaphuzu amahle ; ngiya bonga muntu wakithi Angizimiselanga ukuwabhixa la mazwi ngoba ngiyabe ngiyadiliza kukanti thina siyakha njalo siyakhana.Vele makusakhiwa akuyiwa nganxanye kungesi manzi. Thus why kuthiwa kulabanye abaku right kube labaku left njalo labanye esingathi ngama moderates.Ngabantu banye labo. Bonke baqakathekile ku discourse yesizwe. Ngikuzwa kahle angithandabuzi ukuthi uthini njalo ngiyawuhlonipha umbono wakho.Kodwa ke kuyangehlula ukuthi ngithule nje ngingakwembuleli nge Ruwanda esezweni labobamkhulu esengathi awuyi boni kanti isobala kuwonke lowonkana.
1)I Ruwanda siyibonile ngama 80's nge gugurawundi lamanje sisa nesa amanxeba ayo thina esaba nga mavictims njalo salehlekelwa ngabazalwani bethu.Sawuhlaba umkhosi abantu bonke bathula bathi tu ngoba babethola lokhu abakutholayo,yikho nje sengathi lawe awuyazi le eku backyard yakho kodwa utolika le ekuma khilomitha lama khilomitha ommango ngoba yavezwa kuma TV.
2)Kancane kancane abakhokheli bethu abaqavile baphalala ngama 80's langabo 90's.Ayivelanga ku TV.
3)Funda ufundisise nge another form of Ruwanda ku posting ka Duze ekamhlaka 18 Mabasa 2008.Ayiveli ku TV. Uyi illustrate kahle kayidigi ku tolikwa, besewuthi hayi ikhona enye engangikhona izisa! Silwa le disenfranchisation yabantu elizweni laboyise.Ma ngikupreventa ukuti uphandele abantu bemuli yakho kukhona ukukubulala okudlula lapho na? Yikungcwaba umuntu ephila lokhu.Kambe uyakwazi yini ukuthi banengi abafana bakithi abangaqedanga izikolo baqoma ukuvikana lezilo zasendle sekusobala ukuthi oyise labo malumabo ba ya majinalayzwa therefore labo nje abalamathuba bangaze basiqede leso sikolo.I buhlungu ke leyo.I exodus yabantu bakithi for economic and political refuge iqale more than 20 years ago.
Ngiphethe ngokuthi uMaslow wathi izinto ziqalwa esiqalweni zingakaze ziye esiqongweni.Ngokunjalo uMthwakazi usaxoxisana ngama basics, kuboniswana ngama norms at a local village singakaze siye esiqongweni ku global village where ama local norms angaselamandla kangako.Zizotshabalala ke izizwe ezingela ma norms azo ma sekungenwa ku global village.
Ngiyakuzwa njalo ngiyayihlonipha i point of departure yakho Ntombankala , I hope lawe uyabona ukuthi sibuyaphi.
Ngiphinde ngibonge.
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#37554 - 04/18/08 10:41 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: duze]
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 03/27/08
Posts: 50
Loc: Norfolk
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What is a Grand Plan, who started it. I have had about it a long time back, but I have never seen it. Is it a document written by Inzawu or is it a document written by one of our own(Mthakazi) to create deep hatred among Zimbabweans. Is it a plan to stop amantombazana esintwini to wed shona people, but to encourage our brothers to wed shona women.
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#37571 - 04/19/08 05:30 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: Thabo70]
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 02/16/08
Posts: 80
Loc: Diaspora
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Thabo70
well umaloba iGP angimazi but akulobayo kuliqiniso njalo kuyenzeka imihla namalanga.
ngisesengumfanyana bekulomakhelwane wethu unaTafi/Tafadzwa, ngelinye ilanga umkhulu wami wangibiza wathi kimi mzukulu kukoMguni laphaya ekhomba kosaTafi, it didn't make any sense to me ngoba ngisemfitshane, now i know, ngoba lumuzi wawukhuluma isishona laye uMguni, umuzwe ethi nhai-ka kumbe handiti-ka nxa ekhuluma lawe isiNdebele, lindoda yakhele eTsholotsho.
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maturity is of the mind, not of age, however, the magnitude of one's experiences is a function of age.
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#37647 - 04/22/08 06:12 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: bongani]
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Ngqwele
Registered: 06/17/05
Posts: 113
Loc: eMajawundeni
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Satsha ngezikhothamathe zamatshona.lina elifisa ukubangamatshona kumbe eliwathanda okungelamkhawulo,please,please,lingasinxusi kumkhosi wenu.ukukhumisana umlotha lomuntu okuzonda ungamonelanga kukulethelani.anginxusi muntu ukuzonda izinto zentshonalanga, engiyikho khona lengakubonayo lengikubonayo kwanele ukubazonda.that is a sin l have never thought of asking for forgiveness for and am far from it.l dont want to mention names but amashona ayanginyanyisa,futhi ngiyawazonda.lina elilokhu lisitshela ukuthi sihlalisane labo yenzani sibone.that is something u will dream about for the rest of your lives but it will never happen,so dream on!!
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#37656 - 04/22/08 11:13 PM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: mzukulu-kagogo]
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 03/27/08
Posts: 50
Loc: Norfolk
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Asibe lokuthula emhlabeni bantu bezansi. Asiyeke inzondano lamashona bantu. Ingani abelungu ababelidlisa imbuya ngoluthi besithi lingokafi niga alikhulumi ngabo. Lamuhlanje bayafa abamnyama befela isikhumba sabo esihle. Lamnhlanje bakhona abelungu ababisa abensundu ngoniga lithini ngabo. Abelunga benza abamnyama iziqhili. Ubugqili bathi bumiswa abelungu baphiwa imali ye khompaseshini. Izimbabwe ngomhlaba kwathiwa abelungu baphiwe ikhompaseshini. Okhokho bethu bonabaphiwani. Angitsho abelungu alibathinti ngoba labaxolela mthwakazi. Amashona alingawaxoleliyo kuzaphethangani. Asikucabange lokhu. abelungu bazabe behlaka bethi iziphukuphuku ziyabulalana.
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#37663 - 04/23/08 08:49 AM
Re: sithini ngentombi zesindebeleni ezendele enzawini
[Re: Thabo70]
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Sikhulu
Registered: 03/16/08
Posts: 299
Loc: uk
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Thabo mfethu kunjani. kulungile mfethu ukuthi ukhulume ngokuxolelana namatshona. akukho lutho oluyinhlamba lapho. uMthwakazi esiyiwo awinanzondo nezinye izizwe.
kodwa inkinga esinayo yikuthi abantu abafana nawe bathatha ama side. uvikela elinye iqembu uthi akubenokuthula ngapha ngakithi kube uthulile wena ngalokhu esikwenzwa ngamatshona. yikho nje uzwa abantu bekuthandabuza.
amatshona nabelungu akufani mfo. salwa namatshona silwisa abelungu.nee. emveni kwalokho senziwani isizwe sikaMthwakazi? ungakhohlwa ukuthi lesisihluku senziwa kithi ngoba singafuni umgabe lo. namhlanje nina matshona nithini ngaye umgabe? kwanithatha 28years to realise tht mgabe is a phoney.
today they is a Grand Plan. uthi sibaxolele.if you ask me to choose between ijokwe lomlungu nelomtshona ngingakhetha elomlungu ngoba at least he gave the intelligent school levers the chance to progrese in life. today ,with the shona GrandPlan as long as you are Ndebele YOU cant go anywere. so yini wena uthi masixole. awuboni isizwe siphela?
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