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#37557 - 04/19/08 12:40 AM KAMBE NGUBANI LO ?
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St John 19 verse 25 'when Jesus therefore saw his mother,and the desciple standing by,whom he loved,..........'Ngabe ngubani lu mathandwa? Akami lapho u Johani,uyaqhubeka angamqambi ngegama lakhe encwadini yakhe ,uze ayiphethe embiza ngalelo likamathandwa.

i vesi licutshwe ku Holy Bible; Kings James Version

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#37567 - 04/19/08 04:20 PM Re: KAMBE NGUBANI LO ? [Re: BATHWALIBOPHAHLA]
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kunjani, phila eNkosini.

ngethemba ucuphe indima engeyisiyo, may be from the Hoply Bible, but iKJV ithi,
 Quote:
Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother,and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.
, Jhn 19:25

I tried cross referencing to the same incident in other gospels and different versions ngithola lokhu;
 Quote:
There were also many women there, looking on from a distance, who had followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering to him, among them were Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Joseph and the mother of the sons of Zebedee.
Matt 27:25-26

umuntu omdingayo akekho kwileli verse may be uphambanisile, angazi njalo, ngoba bonke labomama baqanjiwe kuleli verse lo othandekayo akekho.

Amen.
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#37568 - 04/19/08 04:54 PM Re: KAMBE NGUBANI LO ? [Re: Emz]
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I would say its the writer of the same gospel himself, John.
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#37570 - 04/19/08 05:11 PM Re: KAMBE NGUBANI LO ? [Re: MTHWENTWEHLABA1]
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siyabonga kakhulu, precisely.

Amen
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#37572 - 04/19/08 07:46 PM Re: KAMBE NGUBANI LO ? [Re: Emz]
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Ngiyakubingelela kakhulu ngegama le Nkosi, ngibonga ukuqondiswa kubeliphutha lami enkululumweni, bengiqome ukucupha ku St John 19 vesre 26 kodwa kuyisifiso sami ukuthi uqale nge background ka 25. Ngincede ke ungikhanyisele. Lumuntu uyatholakala ku St John 20 verse 2 laku St Johns 21 verse 7 and 20 kodwa identity yakhe ayingicaceli kahle ngendlela okuqhubekwa ngayo ngokubizwa ngokuthi ngumathandwa.

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#37573 - 04/19/08 10:06 PM Re: KAMBE NGUBANI LO ? [Re: BATHWALIBOPHAHLA]
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bengizama ukucatsha, but usungibambile kungasenani. sonke siyayazi lindaba sebeyiphendule bayenza enye into.

lindaba iyindikimba esemqoka kwiDavinci code. ngikujikele inyoka, but sizoncedisana ukuyibulala, wena ulombono bani ngalothandekayo, utholakala encwadini koJohani kuphela, kengibuze?

ithi ngitshiyele abanye ngingandi ngomlomo njengebhasikiti, uMthente uthe nguye umlobi lami ngiyavuma.

Amen
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#37575 - 04/19/08 11:28 PM Re: KAMBE NGUBANI LO ? [Re: Emz]
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Emz

We muntuwakithi, uyangiphica,angizakuzwa nix,sewujule wadlula yena u Johani uqobo lwakhe ma ebhala lincwadi !

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#37576 - 04/20/08 12:21 AM Re: KAMBE NGUBANI LO ? [Re: MTHWENTWEHLABA1]
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MTHWE 1

NGIYAKUBINGELELA

NCEDA NGESIBANE MAKHELWANE !

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#37585 - 04/20/08 04:03 PM Re: KAMBE NGUBANI LO ? [Re: BATHWALIBOPHAHLA]
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phepha nxa ngikuphica

google these words: Disciple whon Jesus loved
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#37598 - 04/20/08 08:32 PM Re: KAMBE NGUBANI LO ? [Re: BATHWALIBOPHAHLA]
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Yebo mntakababa
Asithi kusahluko amatshumi amabili lanye kuJohane, indima 21 kusiy' ekucineni. Yona kanye kanye indima ngu 24
INJABULO LENTOKOZO KUWE LABANGAKWAKHO


Edited by MTHWENTWEHLABA1 (04/20/08 08:39 PM)
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#37872 - 05/04/08 11:11 PM Re: KAMBE NGUBANI LO ? [Re: MTHWENTWEHLABA1]
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MTHWE 1 lo Emz

Ithemba kalibulali bandla, bengithembile.Mina bengithembe ukuthi lumathandwa ngelinye lamaninakazi esiwabona kuma verse la angaphezulu.Ngiphinde ngifakaze ukuthi besibhejile lenkosikazi yami mina ngisithi lumathwandwa linina nomakanjani. l am a novice to her when it comes to ezeBhayibhili kodwa bengiqinise umdlambulo ngalumathandwa. Ngiswabile ke ngoba bengizama ukutshengisa ukuthi iNkoosi Jesu other than the spiritual life that He lead , also He had a human/social side okungaba njenge fishing, uku throwa amadili lokuthandana njengoba kuphikelelwa kanenginengi kangaka engcwadini ka Johane.

Nanka amaphuzu ami njalo aseseyimibuzo ;
1) kungani sengathi umathandwa lo ubalwa kulaba obomama ;Johane 19 : 25-26

2) OMathewu ,uJohane uqobo lwakhe kanye labanye ababhala ngokubulawa kweNkosi uJesu why bechaza ixuku labomama kungacaci ukuthi ukhona ongaba ngumlisa kulabo ;(ngolwazi lwami ababhali ngabalisa oro kanjani bafowethu?). Yini efihlwayo kahlekahle!

3) Jonane 21 : 20 kusephathini kuyanathwa ,kuyadliwa ,kujatshuliwe ngabe ngumnunzane lo oziphatha kanje esifubeni senye indoda; yebo sizwile kugcizelelwe ukuthi ngumathandwa ngapambilini but isnt this public display of affection so remarkable to day as it was to Peter and others then? Majida zikhuphani kanti la?

4 Umathandwa kahlekahle ubulililibungaki considering points 1,2, and especially 3 ?

5)Inkosi u Jesu ubuza insizwa yako Jona kanengi nengi ukuthi ngabe iyamthanda na? Ma eqinisekisa ukuthi yebo uyamthanda iNkosi ithi 'ngilandele',nangu laye umathandwa usengohamba labo etshiya abanye, uyaphi engabizwanga .This 'Nami ngihamba nawe' behaviour idida u Peter as it did mdlana wedili.


Ngiyalibonga bantubakithi ,sengathi liyavumelana ukuthi lu mathandwa nguye futhi umbhali we ncwadi ka Johane. Kuseselemibuzwana engingakatholi impendulo ngombhalo lo oNgcwele engingajabula ma lingakhanyisa ikakhulu ebulilini buka mathandwa lokubhalwa kufihlwa esikubona la.

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