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#37844 - 05/03/08 01:00 AM New Mayor for London
Bhudaza Offline
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There is no hero worshipping in the UK, Ken is out and Boris is in.

Let us hope new Mayor Boris Johnson keeps his promise to grant amnesty to people with troublesome immigration issues!!!!!!!!

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Boris Johnson has won the race to become the next mayor of London - ending Ken Livingstone's eight-year reign at City Hall.

The Conservative candidate won with 1,168,738 first and second preference votes, compared with Mr Livingstone's 1,028,966.

Mr Johnson thanked his family, party activists for their help in a "marathon election".

He is expected to stand down as MP for Henley, triggering a by-election.

He paid tribute to Mr Livingstone for shaping the office of mayor and speaking for London after the 7 July bombings in London, saying he had the "thanks and admiration of millions of Londoners".

Mr Johnson's victory crowns the party's May Day local election wins in England and Wales. He said he hoped it showed the Conservatives had changed "into a party that can be trusted".

Mr Livingstone's defeat ends what Gordon Brown has called as a "bad" day for Labour in which it suffered its worst council results for 40 years.


Edited by Bhudaza (05/03/08 01:03 AM)
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#37850 - 05/03/08 02:44 PM Re: New Mayor for London [Re: Bhudaza]
mninimuzi Offline
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Yebo akubenjalo. I dont like the nasty policies of the Conservative party but l like what Boris stands for. l think the atmosphere is signalling sunset for the Labour party which is rather not a good omen if you are a foreigner.
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#37852 - 05/03/08 03:41 PM Re: New Mayor for London [Re: mninimuzi]
Madlenya Offline
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I agree with you Mninimuzi, the Tories are not friendly to immigrants. But as it stands now, they are like an unstoppable Tsumani (Mabhidlizagagasi). I just can't see what Gordon Brown could do to stop this Tsunami. I just don't know why people hate Brown so much, maybe it is because he is Scottish or maybe he is perceived as a backstabber, rumours has it that he worked tirelessly behind scenes to squeeze off Tony Blair.

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#37854 - 05/03/08 04:05 PM Re: New Mayor for London [Re: Madlenya]
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Tony Blair had to go anywhere. His time, like Ken's was up. It is apparent that in these parts of the world you cannot stay at the helm for too long.

As for immigration, Labour has been more hostile than Tories. Prior to 1997, I am told life was a breeze for asylum seekers. A lot of hostile legislation has infact ciome from Labour.
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#37856 - 05/03/08 04:22 PM Re: New Mayor for London [Re: Bhudaza]
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Worringly the racist/fascist party that is anti-immigration, the BNP won a seat in the London Assembly. A few years ago they were percieved as a joke, not anymore.


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#37857 - 05/03/08 04:36 PM Re: New Mayor for London [Re: Bhudaza]
mninimuzi Offline
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I agree with you that it is unorthodox in this part of the world for an immortal being to run a nation for donkey ages. But i would want to disagree with your point pertaining immigration visa vis the Tories and Labour. For the past few years the Tories have been using some arm twisting tactics to force Labour to be hard hearted on policies of immigration. That is wwhy rules are now cruel to assylum seekers and others. If you revisit the manifesto and campaigns by the likes of Duncan and Howard, you will realise what the overall Tories approach to immigration sound and look like.
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#37858 - 05/03/08 05:06 PM Re: New Mayor for London [Re: mninimuzi]
Thabo70 Offline
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Registered: 03/27/08
Posts: 50
Loc: Norfolk
If you look closely,you will notice that political parties in Britain look for something that will weaken their opponents. They will use what ever they uncover about their opponents to make a huge political ground. In recent years umqoka has been immigration.Mina ngibona immigration kuyindlela yokubandlulula abantu okungelanqondo. Ungananzelela imthetho ye immigration luncindezelo olusemthethweni that limits freedom of movement of people. That is aimed at limiting human empowerment. I consider this to be territorial by our fallow civilised human beings, whose goal is to keep poor people poor if possible make them even poorer.They talk about fair trade, then European union, What happened to commonwealth do people in common wealth countries benefit, but People in the European Union benefit from each other. What about the African union.
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#37859 - 05/03/08 06:03 PM Re: New Mayor for London [Re: Thabo70]
abafokazi Offline
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Registered: 07/15/03
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Loc: Luton, england
Tony Blair fell out with the British public for leading the country into war, but otherwise he was a good leader. I remember he once said I do not seek unpopularity as a badge of honour but I stand on what I believe is the best for the country, unfortunately his decision which did not engage the British people cost him his political career. Gordon Brown can never lead Britain, I for one think Labour would be voted out and the Tories will be ruling britain again, please don't get me wrong I'm not a tory supporter but David cameroon is the next British prime minister.

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#37864 - 05/04/08 06:03 AM Re: New Mayor for London [Re: Bhudaza]
BATHWALIBOPHAHLA Offline
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Registered: 03/28/08
Posts: 88
Loc: UK
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As for immigration, Labour has been more hostile than Tories. Prior to 1997, I am told life was a breeze for asylum seekers. A lot of hostile legislation has infact ciome from Labour.


The issue of the British and the migrant is a bitter sweet kind of contradiction that is always characterised by flaws and loopholes( or is it izimbobo)and mutual benefits.This counry will always need migrants if it is to mantain the so called British standards of living it has set,otherwise who is going to do what has to be done, more so now that it is embracing the population of its EU neighbours who are not well endowed. l have decided to illustrate my experience to show how frustrating some of these changes are. I hope others have other experiences to share so that we can get other perspectives.

As a work permit seeker pre and post 1997 l can simple say it was more difficulty during the reign of the Tories to come and work for ones family.I am not sure about asylum seeking but l assume the attitude was the same. When Bleyaa took over , we saw conceited efforts to bring migrant labour to assist the increasingly grey headed British workforce and boost the economy. They still pride themselves of that although the Tories say the benefits are short term meaning that in the long term this will strain the social services as it has already started. My opinion is that the Tories are conservative and believe that they don't like us.I therefore tend to agree with those that say the Labour are better and the current tough laws are actually a direct result of the pressure from the Tories.In mature democracies national interest is paramount and unlike in Africa where the south pole does not meet the north pole; opposers and rulers many atimes converge irregardless of the effect it will have on the migrant. Ngabantwana bomuntu and if they perceive that they are not benefiting from the migrant they can even dodge their own conventions.

The law of aliens has been mutating over the past few years.Look at the drastic changes of the law on the 29 February 2008 on work permits. This country is in dire need of foreign labour but most organisations including some government departments are hamstrung by these new pieces of legislation as they attempt to recruit. For example, our company has been awarded contracts to provide services on behalf of government(GVT) in some boroughs of London simply because GVT does not have adequate staff. One condition is that we can not recruit any one who has been working for the GVT for the past six months otherwise we would increase the problem instead of solving it. Being a social service they are few potential recruits outside the GVT to render it. We were therefore encouraged to recruit from abroad. For the past two years of our existence we have been successfully brain draining from India, Nigeria ,Zimbabwe and lastly e Mzansi in that order.
Come 29/2 we are faced with multiple obstacles in navigating around the Home Office regulations, and although all systems are set , we have delayed initiating services in two strategic areas and worse still the GVT is impatient with us. Our competitors up north are facing the same problem and they are now relying on poching from other PVT companies by inflating pay packages meaning that we have to do the same and also always watch our backs.That is potentially creating havoc to the current employs and packages must therefore be reviewed to match that of the recruits.

We tried to employ the Europeans who are in abundance(Polish, Bulgarians ,Romanians etc) as they do not need work permits but we are faced with problems:
1) language problem, they are generally not English speakers and in our service there is a lot of verbal interaction with the client.
11)the depth of training and competences does not always meet the standard prescribed in the contract.
111)Most importantly ,the report about the client which is actually a final product of our service is generally not of the technical quality set;(the reports are routinely audited by a GVT agency and we can easily loose the contract if they are poor).

With the exception of abeMzansi we are inundated with 'kanti when am l starting' enquiries from recruits. We want them and Britain needs them and they want it too but the current laws makes everything difficulty.I shudder to think what will happen when the Tories take over, damn Tories!

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#37896 - 05/07/08 12:53 PM Re: New Mayor for London [Re: Bhudaza]
Mthoko Offline
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Registered: 02/04/04
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You seem to have a fickle mind indeed Bhudaza!

Is this Tory party that you are talking about the one that negotiated Mugabe's way into office (and gave him free private tutorials on rigging elections)?


Is it not the same party that ignored the cries of the Ndebeles in the early eighties when Mugaxabe set his dogs free in Matebeleland and the Midlands?


Is this the same party that used to whip out state visits for Bob every now and then, wine and dine him and his croonies?


Maybe im the one thats confused here but correct me if im wrong in thinking that this is the same party that nominated Mugaxabe for an honorary Knighthood despite his history, which they found convinient to ignore at the time!


But then, Bhudaza knows best! Not.


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#37897 - 05/07/08 02:58 PM Re: New Mayor for London [Re: Mthoko]
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Okokuqala ungabokhuluma ingani uyahlanza.

Okwesibili, mina bengikhulume nge immigration, lemithetho eguqulwe yi Labour government. Minengi imithetho eguqukileyo selokhu kwangena iLabour. Omunye sikhuluma je bawethule izolo. Okunye uzakhumbula ukuthi bekungela maVisa ngesikhathi sama Tories.

Ngakho ndoda stick to the issues ungaziyangisi uzenza wena oJusi, msilawakho!


 Originally Posted By: Mthoko
You seem to have a fickle mind indeed Bhudaza!

Is this Tory party that you are talking about the one that negotiated Mugabe's way into office (and gave him free private tutorials on rigging elections)?


Is it not the same party that ignored the cries of the Ndebeles in the early eighties when Mugaxabe set his dogs free in Matebeleland and the Midlands?


Is this the same party that used to whip out state visits for Bob every now and then, wine and dine him and his croonies?


Maybe im the one thats confused here but correct me if im wrong in thinking that this is the same party that nominated Mugaxabe for an honorary Knighthood despite his history, which they found convinient to ignore at the time!


But then, Bhudaza knows best! Not.


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#37900 - 05/07/08 09:08 PM Re: New Mayor for London [Re: Bhudaza]
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Registered: 02/04/04
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Its a shame that you have to resort to insulting me to build up your chronically depleted self esteem.

Need i say more!
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#37904 - 05/08/08 09:31 AM Re: New Mayor for London [Re: Bhudaza]
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Registered: 10/25/03
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Loc: uk
If you look back to the 1990's you will see ukuthi people used to come and go kungela mavisa .Those that settled here on a temporary bases where University students (not ukumacollege kokopokopo!)But mina i think the reason things changed so much was because as the situation in Zimbabwe progressively got worse, the numbers of people coming thru the airports went up drastically. This prompted the gov to toughen up their border controls. The intro of the visa was aimed at limiting and keeping track of the numbers of people coming here. Unfortunately what they did not foresee was that by making Zim a visa nation they were making the problem worse for themselves bcoz once people where granted visa's they decided against going back home in fear of not being able to return.
In terms of asylum seekers, i think the gov just wisened up to the fact that 99% of claimants from Zim are not genuine! Is it not true that most of those that faced real threats to their lives and wellbeing are still in Zim (if they are still alive)?I say this bcoz as soon as people are granted 'istay' sebegada besiya eGoli bafike bacrosse baye ekhaya.I know ngo2000 there was an influx of pip who were from a party eyayithiwa yi Liberty. If you remeber this was the time that abantu babephendukiswa khona and i think igov yananzelela ukuthi 3 qters ye air zim bafika baclaim asylum.Another thing was ukuthi abantu babebuya bahlale 6 months ivisa yakhe ingaphela /kumbe angangcitshwa i student visa/ angabanjwa esebenza okungekho emthethweni abaseclaimer and thus raising credibility issues le home office. So i think if the Tories had been in power . the same things would have happened. LAbour would have used immigration as a tool yoku zama ukutshengisa ukuthi igov in power is incompetant.
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