uyabona angithandi indlela we continue engaging on each other, ayina buntu njalo ayilangqubekela phambili, i nearly fell into your trap of insulting and provoking each other, thats not the way to go, khumbula kahle ukuba ngikuxolisile and i asked ukuthi masikhulume njengamadoda. awungazi kodwa ke uyaqhubeka ungibiza ngomfana,attention seeker,assylum seeker.mfowethu masiyeke lokhu sibheke indaba emqoka lana. ngiyazi uyangeyisa, but be careful ngoba, it will always hinder you from making sound judgement. mfokabawo qhubeka wenzenjalo, kodwa ke ake uzibuze ukuthi kusisaphi lokhu.calling each names wont get us anywhere, njalo kwenza sivaleke amehlo singaboni iqiniso. ngizophinda njalo ngithi lets stop developing a culture of embracing izinto ezimbi.
Skhotha mfowethu i am not in crusade of vilifying uZulu, cha not close.
well if want to continue ungeyisa, suit yoself.
but ngicela nje ube constructive in critising be negative or positive, ukuze siqhubeke siqondisana,njalo your posting shows ukuthi you miss important points and jump to calling me names and critising me, mina mfowethu i wont fall into your trap again ngoba i dont want lose focus of important things said in the forum ngibe ngilokhu ngithukana nawe, akungiphi ngqondo lakancane.
asibheke undaba olukhulunywayo hayi lokhu ukubizana ngamagama

Nejana
Yekela ukukhala okosana oluncela ibeleni likanina. Kuhle ukuthi ngokuzayo ungaqali udaba ongeke ulumele. Uma uyindoda uzosho ukuthi phakathi kwami nawe wubani oqale ukuthuka omunye. Ungisukele ngizithulele zwi, wangenza inhlekisa emphakathini, kodwa ngaqhuba ngikubekezelela. Kumele wazi ukuthi ukubekezela komuntu kuyaphela, yikho lami ngithe uma ngibona ungisukela unomphela ngathi angizivikele, kanti sengitshaya ngicobodisa, uyabona ngitsho khona kanye ukutshaya impukane ngewisa. Angikudeleli Nejana, njalo angikwazi, ngiyakuhlonipha, bengifuna nje ukuthi ngikubonise ukuthi inhlonipho iqakathekile, uma ungihlonipha awungeke uyiswele evela ngakimi, ngiyohlala ngikuhlonipha. Kodwa into engingeke ngayenza Nejana yikugoqa ezmi izandla indoda ikhwele izenzele ekufunayo lapha kimi, ngifa layo indoda mina. NginguGodlwayo Omnyama Mina, ngelusa, ngachatha, ngadla amagonsi, ngabhaqa insema, akudlalelwa lana kimi. Kuthi kunjalo ngiyaloya, ngiyakuloya utshaywe ngumbane libalele elikaMvelingqangi.

Nejana, ninjani mfowethu? Ngiyathemba iphika selehlile manje.
Angizi ukuthi yikuphi lokhu obona sengathi kuyindelelo kwinkulumo yethu. Mina iphuzu ebengifisa ukuliveza bekuwukuthi wena uvumele inhliziyo yakho nomlomo wakho( izandla zakho in this case) ukuthi zilawule ingqondo yakho. I mean that you allowed your emotions to dictate your thought without logically considering the facts.
AmaZulu angaphezulu kwequlwana labantu. I don't think that you can ever truly convict a nation the way you are attempting to. If all but one were to march on Bulawayo that doesn't represent the nation! If you had phrased your statement differently perhaps we wouldn't be having this conversation, who knows.
Uma ungakwazi ukuphendula umbuzo othi umbonangani umZulu yeka ukusibophela amanqin' enyathi!
Zulu=criminal ilento eshiwo nguwena. Ake uyibukisise mnewethu bese uyaqubeka uzame ukuzenza sengathi yimina osukela wena! Phela wena usunguthuke wangiqeda ngalenkulumo yakho!
Ngithe khuzeka, bhuti, musa ukufuna uzwelo lwethu uma sezibuya ngolunye uhlobo.

you guys are so quick to celebrate, yet this wasnt about me and you, it was about ukwehlakala kwezigemegeme. lidume ledlula
ukuthathaphi ukuthi i am using my emotion to xpress my opinion, isono sami kanti yini, yikuthi ngicaze ukuba who were realy the pepetrators of this xeno, lokho akujiki mfethu noma nini nanini, i wont reframe or mhlawumbe ngithi bengidlala, cha-cha bo!!, angeke. you can use the dirty tactics wena no Mthakathi, ukuthi ngiyawumana, angazi ngikhuluma ngani, history will prove wrong. the last posting, i was advising indebele lakithi uMthakathi njengoba nje ethi ubuya koGodlwayo, ukuthi ungajahi ukulwa nami ngoba kusasa kuzabekunguye, zingakuye bembiza ngesilwanyana.kanti wena mfokaSkhotha yini ndaba defiant kangaka, uyabandakanya yini kulezinkemenkeme yini,or you are just playing the devil's advocate, washiseka kangaka kwenzakalani, yini owaziyo ngesizwe sikaMthwakazi, noma yiyo lento owayifunda lana kuforum.i am not trying to ukuqhathanisa, but i want really undersand, uyifihle emthubeni, akuyiveze mfowethu ngazi ukuthi kahle kahle zikhuphani
Mthakathi mfoka baba indaba yami ngiyayimela, into nje angifuni ukuthi silahleka ondabeni esiphuzukwalo, thats why nje ngihlehla from that type of language, hayi ukuthi ungehlule,cha, ngoba ngiyezwa seniyagiya noSkhotha.
Skhotha mfowethu okumele bakhuzwe, lezi izixiwi ezibulala abantu,hayi mina or wena, but this barbaric acts ukuthi umuntu akubulawa nje nje ngenkomo, kuyazila lokho mfethu, kithi esindebeleni igazi lomuntu, you cant just spill it nje.something south Africa as nation will learn sooner or later, not only amazulu.Skhotha mfethu angiwazondiamazulu, nginyanya izenzo.
Angazi ngithini kuwe uma uthi "umbona ngani umZulu", the answer can fill up the space,i dont know wherther you are looking for characteristics,facial appearance, traits, behaviour, -they are lot fitures. i never said Zulu=crinimal, ungafunzi amazwi emlonyeni wami.

Madoda , into esiyenzakalayo angiyithandi ngoba phela thina njengoMthwakazi sesibhizi sixabana sodwa. Yikho phela lokhu abelungu abathi yi strategy se divide and rule. Mthwakazi bengicela ukuthi sikhumbule ukuthi isitha sethu ngabetshabia njalo ngicela sixolelani thina abakwaMthwakazi and concentrate on fighting izinja lezi ezingamaswina! yikho phela lezizinja zabetshabe ziqhubeka zisasibuswa ngenxa yalendaba yethu yokuthanda ukulwa sodwa!

Nokho madoda kuhle ukuzwa amadoda engcwekisana ngamazwi!

We must always bear it in mind that generalising about a specific group of people is dangerous. I will not rehash my basis for this statement, I have covered them in previous postings.

South Africans have engaged in acts of xenophobia, that is an undeniable fact. However, to impute such conduct primarily/exclusively to amaZulu is bereft of fairness and truth to amaZulu.

But if you want amaZulu to carry, and be crucified to the cross of xenophobia for all South Africans that is your wish and opinion. We are all entitled to our idiosyncrasies.

If I must be elementary in order for you to understand I will be. People that are prone to xenophobic conduct are those that readily adopt stereotypes for truth.

One example: "foreign nationals are taking jobs from South Africans". A cursory look at the facts about foreign nationals will tell you that:
1. A foreign national requires a permit to be employed in South Africa; so far Dept of Home Affairs grants Temporary Residence Permits (TRPs)to asylum seekers. South African formal employers seldom employ such foregn nationals.

2. Xenophobic attacks ravaged informal settlements, where the large part of population is not employed in a formal sector. So you wonder what employment is being 'stolen' by foreign nationals. That is if you are rational and not an enemy of the truth.

On the other hand if you are up to mischief you would readily adopt the rhetoric "foreign nationals are taking jobs from South Africans", and act on it.

Therefore I reiterate my suggestion that before you licence yourself to villify amaZulu, you do an introspection and see what you seek to achieve by your conduct.

Otherwise you may just as well be caught up in this xenophobic euphoria which embraced the South Africans that perpetrated xenophobic attacks.

Sometimes when you are angry you must look at a mirror and see the monster that looks back at you. Lest you go out and be seen by people at large for a monster that you are. Your continued vitriolic splutturing about amaZulu are just one of many classic examples of xenophobic mentality.

Think

Afrikado noSikhotha

Mayuyu bafowethu ayidle izishiyele, usakhula umfana. Nokho noma kunjalo ngidinga ukuthi sike sixoxisane bafowethu ngaloludaba lwenzondo yezifikanamthwalo kewlaseNingizimu Afrika. Bengingathanda ukuthi sixoxe ngawo wonkana amaAfrica kodwa cha, okwamanje ngifuna sixoxe ngoMthwakazi vs Isizwe samaZulu. Ngiyazi ukuthi mhlawumbe nsizwa zakithi niyazi ukuthi imvelaphi yesizwe sikaMthwakazi imi kanjani, noma kunjalo ngivumeleni ngithe ngamafushane nje ngokwazi kwami. Isizwe sikaMthwakazi sibunjwe yinkosi uMzilikazi Khumalo, obe eyindunankulu yeLembe eleqa amanye amaLembe ngokukhalipha. UMzilikazi noShaka bahlanganiswa yisifisosinye sokuphindisela kuZwide Ndwandwe, sizokhumbula ukuthi uShaka uye wayokhulela ngaphansi kwenkosi uDingiswayo,uDingiswayo wabulawa nguZwide. Kunjalo uyise kaMzilikazi uMashobane wabulawa nguZwide ngokufana. UMzilikazi uthe ngesikhathi efuduka wahamba ebuthe izizwe eziningi ezifana nezabeSotho namaTswana. Uke wakha okwesikhatshana endaweni yasePitoli. AmaBhunu azama ukushabalalisa isizwe sakhe, yikho inkosi uMzilikazi wakubona kufanele ukuthi awelele ngalena kukaLimpompo. Kulapho afika wakha isizwe esaduma ngegama lokuthi Ndebele, kodwa yena luqobo lwakhe uMzilikazi ubesibiza ngokuthi MTHWAKAZI.

Let me digress a bit, i will come back where i left, many English speaking white nations such as USA, Canada, NZ and Australia have links with the UK as their country of origin. From time to time many come back to reconnect with their past, to them the UK has a some kind of spiritual significance. Culturally, politically and economically, these said nations have special relations.

uMthwakazi feels the same way, kwaZulu Natal is our spiritual home, it is our past, it is our present and future. Yikho ke zinsizwa zakithi, ngobubili benu akenisho ke ukuthi amaZulu abebandakanye kuloludlame ayibheka kanjani indaba kaMthwakazi. Do you regard us as like any foreigner?? Before you misrepresent me, i am not saying that the Zulus were the ringleaders i am mere saying that Zulus were part and parcel of the xenophobic attacks on us. If the English in England were kill people because they were foreigners, do you think they would kill their kith and kin. Whats wrong with us black people who do not value our kith and kin, people who speak the language we could understand? I am aware that Mthwakazi nation consists of Sothos, Tswanas and Xhosas, but out of all these nations we have more closer links with the Zulus, this why i seek to understand what Zulus think and percieve us? Here i am not only directing this to the perpetrators of xenophobic attacks, but i am referring to the Zulus in general. Today siyinhlekisa ezizweni, amaShona ayasihleka athi wona sishaywe ngabakithi, njalo lokhu kuchaza ukuthi amaZulu vele ayasizonda. Ishoni ke zinsizwa zakithi, kambe uma namhlanje amaShona engasisukela asibulale okwesibili njenngayizolo ningasiza na?

Madlenya, ninjani mfowethu? Siyaphila thina enhlokodolobha yakwaZulu. Ngibuka izingane engibusiswe ngazo, ngiyazibuza ukuthi yini engenziwa ilesisiaram esiyimina ukuze ngizikhandele umhlaba oncono!
Mfowethu iqiniso lithi bengingacwadile ngesizwe esinguMthwakazi. Ulwazi lwami belungaphelele ngemplela ngoba bengazi ukuthi nihlezi khahle lapho emakhaya koBulawayo. Ikhona nje ukuthi umkhulu ubenibulalela umnotho wenu.
Ngingaze ngijikele emva kwendlu angikuphendula. Mina, Skhotha, ngiyazwelana nomzabalazo woMthwakazi. Impi ayikhulunyelwa ekudeni kodwa....
Cha, bafowethu, ningaphazemiseki angimfiseli lutho olubi uNejana. Ungumfowethu yena ngoba siyizidalwa zikaMvelinqange sonke. Nize ningalinge nimthathele phezulu uNejana ngoba ubukhali njengeminora.

Ngisakhula umfowethu omdala kwathi ngelinye ilanga wangisukela wangihlalisa phansi wanginika lesis'yalo. Wathi kimi "Bafo, uma uxabana nomngani wakho noma umuntu enazanayo naye, kukhona abanazi nobabili, ubogadla kuqala! Bazonilamula abangani benu kodwa uyoba usumshayile!"

Iyona ke lento eyenziwa nguNejana manje. Useqala ukubona indelelo nokucwaseka esikhaleni. Ubalekela ukuvuma iphutha lakhe lokukhuluma kabi ngabantu abangenacala.

Anginayo nencane inkinga nabafowethu, nginenkinga nesenzo sabo sokuthi amaZulu this amaZulu that benganabo ubufakazi bokuthi lokho kuyinhloso yamaZulu njengesizwe.

1) uMugabe uyisakhamuzi saseZimbabwe
2) uMadlenya uyisakhamuzi saseZimbabwe
3) uMadlenya unguMthwakazi
4) uMugabe ubulala abantu
5) uMthwakazi isizwe sababulali!

Kunezinto ongeke uzithwese isizwe ekubeni senziwe ngumuntu oyedwa. Icala elesigebengu ngqo, hhayi ukusithunga ngosinga lwenkohliso uzufike lapho ofuna ukulichoma khona!

Skhotha, Afrikado, lama cheerleaders enu.

Kuliqiniso ukuthi akusiwo wonke amaZulu ayizikliwi, ababulali, into ezingenangqondo, ezibizwa zisabele ekuchitheni umphefumulo, amavila afuna ukusetshenzelwa. Kuliqiniso ukuthi amaZulu amanengi angabe efana lani, amadoda alengqondo. Kuliqiniso ukuthi kuzozonke izizwe bakhona abantu kuzwa, lezidlova, even lalesi sizwe sika Mthwakazi esizithi sona singcwele silazo izipayipayi.
Sizibonile inews, siwazwile amanye ama victims e xenophobia ekhuluma ekhamisile ukuthi bahlaselwe ngamaZulu. Sizibonile izigelekeqe zamaZulu zijanquka, zihlabela,ziphethe izikhali zokubulala, zizincoma ngomsebenzi wazo omubi. Yes, inyamazana lezi do not represent the entire Zulu nation, kodwa abatshayiwe bathi bekungamaZulu qho. It's okay ukulwela isizwe senu bafowethu, kubuhlungu ukuthi isizwe sonke sigconwe ngezenzo zamaZulu ayi 1000 or so. Zonelwa mvu nye bafowethu.
Khona manje lidla amalahle lithi lifuna i evidence yokuthi abahlaseli bekungamaZulu, lina ingaphi eyenu i evidence elilayo eyokuthi bekungasimaZulu. Hatshi, sukani bo.
Anyway, osokwenzakele sokwenzakele, angeke sikuguqule. Ngaphandle kokufuna leyo evidence yenu, kusobala ukuthi sonke siyayisola kakhulukazi into eyenziwe ngabafowenu. That's a positive.

Yimina iNdebele qho.
Mathambisabahlanyayo Gatsheni

Kuzolunga senzeni, sidleni kabani? Mfowethu, asazani impela kodwa ungaze usenze kanje?!
Ngiqeda ukubuka le-video ye-xenophobic attack. Ngicela nabanye abayibukile bengibonise. Angiphiki ngingumZulu kodwa ngiziqenya ngokwazi ukuthi ngizidele ngaphambi kweqiniso. Ngizitshelile ngingakayiboni le-video ukuthi I will be impartial. I was prepared to say "Yes these people are Zulu but they don't act on behalf of the Zulu nation" or "There is no possible way to see if these are Zulu people or not" based on my observation.
Kuzolunga, mfowethu, you have spent time in mzansi? I think I recall you saying that you have spent time here. Do you know any Zulu word that is "wathlanya" (plz don't judge me spelling) That is either Tswana, Pedi,Sotho or something.
This attack, in particular, is more against your theory than for it. Even the singing of the struggle song shows a majority of non nguni speakers. Awuleth' umshini wam, listen again and tell us if thats what you hear?

Olendlebe uzwile kaGatsheni , siyakubonga muntu wakithi ngalawo mazwi, sizozithoba amanxeba.

Sekubhicwa ngezistatitics, oKapa , kanye lezehlakalo zakwezinye izifundazwe ezingaqondene nex lomkhosi wethu lapha eGauteng (2008) okuthinteke khona isizwe sakithi. There is a specific incident esikhala ngayo ngoba ithinta thina uqobo lwethu, bona bayajeneralayza.Ayikho nje into ezanywayo ngaphandle kokwakha intabakazi yesmoke screen. Sekufanele sisithenge leso smoke screen maNdebele, l refuse to buy this, bazothenga abathengayo.

Bathwali, Gagashi naninonke bafowethu nodade, niphile nje.
Ngiyanizwa ukuthi ningibona ngisephutheni ngokusukumela amaZulu. Lokho kuyilungelo lenu engilihloniphayo. uBathwali ukhuluma ngokujeneralyza, yini lena ayenzayo pho yena? Engizibuza khona ukuthi yini eyenza umuntu akhethe ukuthi ngamaZulu. Akushiwo ukuthi abaNtu, ama-Africa, amaSouth Africans. Kukhonjwa amaZulu ngqo. Uma sibheka umlando wezizwe zabantu siyazi ukuthi sixhubene kakhulu ngoba ngisho ne-gene pool yethu ngikholwa ukuthi ihlangene. Ngokubona kwami ama-features amaZulu noMthwakazi ayinto efanayo kanjalo nezinye izizwe. Nibona ngani? Shonini bo, mhlasimbe siyanuka angazi?
Nawe Gagashi uyasho ukuthi akusiwona wonke amaZulu anjani njani, kodwa uyaqhubeka nokweseka lento yokuthi kuphakanyiswe igama lamaZulu njekabantu abangobhongoza. Noma ngiphikisana nesibalo sakho sika-1000 noma ngisivuma, ubona kufanelekile yini ukukala isizwe ngedlanzana labantu?
Noma ningathini lento yokuthi kuthiwe ngamaZulu ayimsulwa nakancane, inezinhloso zobubi bodwa.
Igama elithi "amaZulu" likhulu kabi. Lisihlanganisa sonke, nikukhumbule lokho. Uma usuqale wathi "amaZulu" ufaka wonke umuntu ongumZulu hhayi abenzibobubi bodwa. Ukhuluma ngomaShandu ophekela izintandane, ukhuluma ngoNkwali owenza ukuthi lomphefumulo wenkosi owashiswa yizigilamkhuba uthole ukuphumula, yize noma kunabantu abanjengani ababethuka imvelaphi yakhe indlela yonke!
Uma nikwazi ukuthi nibheke phakathi konembeza benu ningaliboni iphutha kulezinkulumo zenu, mina angazi kwayisholo uMaBrrr.

In this context thus general and


thus specific


in this context uyaxuba nje for the reasons best known to you ,yi megalomania le which is classic

Bathwali,phila mntakababa!
Mfowethu ngicela ulibeke phansi lelopeni elibomvu nebhuku lakho lePsych101. Ngoba kuyakusitha kulenkulumo yethu.
Iphuzu elimqoka elithi igama elithi "AmaZulu" libandakanya wonke umuntu ongumZulu ngokuzalwa. uNkwali uyiphotographer yamaphephandaba lapha emzansi, umangingaphonsisi iTimes. Nguyena owashutha lobaba owashiswa yizigilamkhuba eGauteng. Ngaphezu kwalokho wathungatha izihlobo zakhe, waze waqiniseka ukuhi uyancwatswa ekhaya lenakoMoz. Kukhokonke lokhu, umangibheka, uNkwali wayengaphoqwe muntu ukuthi asize umndeni kamufi. Iphephandaba lumiholela ukuthi athathe izithombe kuphela. Kodwa uNkwali wakuthathela kuyena ukuthi makathungathe izihlobo zikamufi, athole nokuthi ungubani. Kuyasho ukuthi wayebona ukuthi ubuntu buthi yena makenzeni kulesigigaba.
Endleleni kaNkwali esuka lana emzansi ephelekezela isidumbu siya eMoz, wayelokhu ehlangana nabantu, njengabanye benu, bekhalaza ngesenzo "samaZulu". Bethi amaZulu this, amaZulu that bekhuluma nomuntu oziqenyayo ngomlando wamaZulu ayinxenye yomlando wakhe! Ngisho nabomndeni bebonga uzwelo lukaNkwali bebengazi ukuthi bakhuluma nomZulu ngokomlando.
Lendaba kaNkwali mina ingikhombisa ukuthi kunabantu abazukuthi amaZulu yizilwane ezingebantu. Bahluleka nokubona ubufakazi obuphambi kwabo, njengezihlobo zalobaba owabulawa.

Skhotha, mfanami, kunjalo kodwa, ngethemba ube nempelaviki enhle njalo you enjoyed the weekend. you are a small swamp in desert, a very valued contributor to the forum that mostly concerned about the wellbeing of the Mthwakazi nation, isizwe esiphakathi kwenkinga, all problems you can think of, but ubuqolo bakho sebuyangidina manje. kanti yini owalayo lana wena zinyane lesilo, ukuthi amazulu were involved in xenophobic attacks. lalela wena bafo, it couldnt be possible for whole Zulu nation in SA to be involved in that barbaric attacks. check the war in Iraq, who are known in the world to be the ones who involved the war?-the Americans, but were they the only ones?, i can see you jumping to say no, why?, cos the polish,italians, the uk and even zimbabweans for that matter were there. but umhlaba wazi njalo, and if you ask the Iraqis they say Americans. IF THE PEOPLE ATTACKED IN XENOPHIA WOULD SHOUT TO THE TOP OF VOICES, SAYING THE ZULUS, IT DOES NOT MEAN THE WHOLE NATION WAS INVOLVED, IF IT WAS INVOLVED, BEKUNGEKE KUSALE MUNTU OPHILAYO.
the Nkwali boy is photographer, there could be a lot motive behind that, not necessarily out of good will, remember what it has for his career, mostly could nobelprizer(just thinking out the box). lokho ke akucazi ukuba nozwelo kwakhe, why did he diclose ukuthi umZulu,there could be alot of answers!!!
mfowethu Amazulu bayabandakanya kule nxufunxufu, yina into ongazwayo kulokho.you are one in a few who understand the negative impact of that barbaric act, the rest of your unlearned brothers do not understand or know anything about uMthwakazi, kwwaphela, you can defend them here on the forum, but try it on the layman(sp) on the street, they will redicule you.
angisho ukuthi isizwe sika Mthwakazi siwazonde amazulu , but they must know the truth, bazikhethele bona.
kayiphele lendaba ngoba as uMthwakazi we have a lot in our hands to solve and accomplish, ngeke siphike ngawe owala ukuthi ingwe inamabala.
phila mfowethu kodwa wazi ukuthi lokhe ngeze kuntshintshe lakancane.

Nina belikaMthwakazi, uma ngabe nifuna ukubona izinga lendelelo yenkulumo yenu eniyibhekise esizweni sikaPhunga noMageba esibalelwa ku 10,7 million ngizonikhombisa. Kade nje nginibuka nisina nithelana ngothuli ebusweni! Nilinganisela ku 1000 amaZulu ambandakanyeka ezenzweni ze xenophobia e Gauteng
=0.01% of the amaZulu population.

Qhathanisa-ke futhi imibiko yezindaba ethi kubanjwe, kwaboshwa izinswelaboya ezibalelwa ku 600 ezimbandakanywa ne xenophobia eGauteng. Kusho ukuthini lokhu kuwe?
1. Sixty (60)% of the people involved in acts of xenophobia were arrested; and
2. That 60% aught to be 100% amaZulu.

I challenge any of you to go out there and verify this proposition; ngimfunge uMfananje angavuka ahambe ngezinyawo namunye ongaphuma nomphumela othi lababantu ababoshelwe i xenophobia amaZulu wodwa.

Nina bakaMzilikazi kaMashobane ningafuni ukuzakhela utalatiya ngeze!

Okwesibili, kunezinkolelo ngezifikanamthwalo eNingizimu Afrika. Isibonelo: izifikanamthwalo ziyimbangela yokunyuka kobugebengu. Kukhona abaphatha ngisho indaba yokuthi kune-snap survey ekhombise ukuthi cellular phone crime plummeted during the xenophobia rage.

It is such sweeping baseless statements that fuel xenophobia nina bakaMthwakazi!

You have drivelled insults, nonsense and hate speech directed at amaZulu for reasons that seem just to you. However, such conduct cannot go unchallenged.

Several times I have been tempted to trade insults for the sake of it. But such insults breed xenophobia a fact I hope to impart to you by the time we are through with this subject.

Sengivala, Madlenya mfowakithi umlayezo wakho uthi bheka idwala oqhuzulwe kule. Sonke sivela ndawonye.

Lets look for solutions, looking for scapegoats and pointing fingers is no panacea.

Just as i thought, very violent,irrational, inconsiderate.the only thing oyicabanga yimpi, it sounds familiar, kanti vele unxuswe ngubani enkundleni yamadoda.
uyayithanda istastic(sp), but i doubt ukuthi you understand it.uzozigwenxa, abstain from, stay on the subject matters you understand ngoba uzogcina untshuma or uwumana.
angizange ngithi ngamazulu wodwa, kodwa imajority yawo yiwo. angikhathali what percentage they form Mr Statistics, okusalayo yikuthi bayabandakanya. ilizwe lamoshwa yi mob pysch, kungavela umuntu eshaya toyitoyi, you most likely to join ungazi lokuthi kubangwani. akekho umuntu okuthela ngothuli, ngoba i believe you were not involved, or you want me to think otherwise.
please kayiphele lendaba it wont bring the dead, in Mthwakazi we a lot nkinga to solve than to listening to you trying to prove innocent, kodwa vele khona lakelavuma nini.
lezonswelaboya ngamazulu, uyavuma yini , noma ufuna ama stats

Let me for a moment humour you Nejana. 'Violent, irrational, inconsiderate' If you can show me how you reach this conclusion about me and (probably my last posting?), maybe I will be able to workout how your logic works. That way probably find out how you blame amaZulu for xenophobia in Gauteng. I don't want to jump to conclusions.

Your lack of understanding statistics has already been evidenced. Ration and logic are based on among other things facts, points and statistics. A person who exclusively dawdles in self pity and blamelaying in a kangaroo court of his backyard can hardly be anything but emotional.

'Angizange ngithi amaZulu wodwa, kodwa imajority'; would you say then 50+1%? If so I reiterate my challenge, go out there you have a pool of approximately 600 people arrested for xeno in GP show me that at least 301 of those are amaZulu and you will have my unmitigated agreement.

Until then try and practice restrain on passing opinions about me: '...you most likely to join ungazi lokuthi kubangwani' please brother!

Perceptions drawn in any instance Nejana reflect on the viewer. 'Akekho umuntu okuthela ngothuli' Nor did I allege that one is, I stated nithelana=spraying each other. The rest of that sentence is superfluous, as much of your comments in your last posting.

Isho okuthandayo.

Mr Statistic.Afrikado, akuye ukungishumayeza ngamapercentage, they will remain nothing numbers, impilo zabantu lezo ogabaza ngazo or to you yizilwanyana nje ezingatsho lutho.
people died cos some idiots decided out of ignorance and illteachings to do so, of which some of those idiots are Zulus.
sengikhathela ngokuzwa ulokhu ungibalisela ngomsulwa benu.
there is nothing to justify what happened., so lets cut this and move on.
uyawathanda amaStats, usebenza kuphi, Stats SA, or uzama ukungethusela ngenyoka efile, i know far much better that, lets not go academic, akubalulekile lana.forget your stats bafo
kanti vele wena nomfowenu uSkhotha nisizwani, lilokhu libhizi enkundleni lisinukisela ngomsulwa benu.
akelize lembona engasiza uMthwakazi, hayi lokhu.

I note that you can barely hold your own in a debate. One seems correct when stating ones own version until you hear the other side.

I appreciate that we leave this subject on this note.

Asibuyele ezinkingeni zezwe lenu: Zimbabwe. When fighting with a tiger fight like one; uma ushaya inyoka ichotshozwa ikhanda. Mina-ke umuZulu kaMfananje kaMzobi uMthontela thonte onjenge Gwalagwala wase Ngcawushen'ebomvu osho njalo.

kahle kahle uyazi nje ukuthi i debate yini, thats why i said lets cut it ngoba we just doing circles, we end up getting personal of which akuyona inhloso yegxoxo yethu. its not about holding on debate, its about progressive debating, hayi ulokhu usala ukuthi zulus were involved, divetting to stats, igcina indaba iphela umhluzi.
kanti wena kahle yini owaziyo ngoMthwakazi , washiseka kangaka, how do i engage with you ngendaba zikaMthwakazi, one problem again lana sikhuluma ngoMthwakazi, hayi izimbagwe yakho leyo.
akuyeke ukubadakanya endaweni ongena lwazi nazo, uyathanda ukugxumkela njengempukane, uthe ungena enkundleni wezwa kuphetha igama lamazulu, wahle wangena, typically mobpsych driven people.lalela mfana kithi indaba yoMthwakazi inde and needs its own people not mere sympathisers ezifana nawe nokunjalo nezakini ziningi, so you cant definately want to engage komthwakzi ngakini amabele ekhanywa lukhula.
buyela kini , they need your imput more than we do, obekusidibanisa kungathi kuphelile, maybe your stats will work on trying to find the rate at which immigrants occupy rdp houses,how immigrants are learning zulu due fear of being attacked, how many immigrants can pronounce zulu.
ngiyabonga ke Mfananja,mzobi,whatever mani,inkosi ibe nawe, ukhule ukhokhobe

Wena Nenjana ufuna umuntu ozokushayela izandla uma ukhwixa amafinyila ukhala ngamaZulu! Ngeke-ke ngikubukele mina you need a cold shower to wake up and see the sun!

"Typical mob psych driven people/which immigrants occupy rdp houses". There I hear those lines again equated with amaZulu. Once is a slip up, but now I see you for what you are a Zulu basher.

In that instance you are a lost case, and if it is the likes of you that are seeking to solve problems of your land I feel pity.

Afrikado

Angazi ukuthi yini ekwenza uzehlise kangaka, you must direct your vitriol to specific individuals not to Mthwakazi as a whole. Some of us are proud of our Zulu roots, we seek not to please or displease anyone about that, that is what we were, that is what we are and that is what we should forever be.

usashiseka namanje, Mr stats,now you cant calculate anymore.
i am not a zulu basher, inkinga angizwani nexiwi,inswelaboya, no matter who, if my own blood brother angenza into efana nale , angingeke ngimbuke nakancane.
so nawe yenza ngokunjalo, ungafumbathi ubugebenga ngoba benziwa ngumfowethu.
siyabonga ukuvakasha kwakho, kungathi inkosi ingaba nawe.

Yobe nina bakaMthwakazi esenginibhincise namahlongandlebe!

Nejana, ninjani mfowethu? Awu, kodwa sengenzeni usingithuka ngenhlamba enjena?
Mfowethu, ngoba ukhuluma nge-Iraq ne-America ukhuluma ngendaba engafani nakancane. Uhulumeni waseMelika wamemezela kwezwa umhlaba wonke ukuthi usuqala impi nezwe laseIraq. Isilo asikaze sithi akuxhoshwe izivakashi!
Usuzisholo ngokwakho ukuthi ayengewodwa amaZulu ekuxhosheni abantu. Angikaze ngiphike ukuthi akhona amaZulu ayekhona kuhlaselwa abantu. Into engiyiphikayo wukuthu isizwe sikaMageba asizifuni izivakashi emzansi. Akukaze kube yinto esiyaziyo leyo, ngiyizwe lana eNkundleni! Ngizwe ngabantu abafana nawe noKuzolunga ukuthi thina maZulu sihlasela abantu.
Kunomehluko, bhuti, phakathi kokuthi isigebengu esingumZulu nokuthi amaZulu ayizigebengu!
uMthwakazi awuncenge lutho kithi maZulu futhi nathi ayikho into, njengamaZulu, esiyifunayo kuMthwakazi. Kodwa inhlonipho yomuntu njengomuntu iyafuneka emhlabeni. Ukuthuka amaZulu akuzukusiza muntu ngoba kulimaza amazwe womabili kujabule izitha.
Khula mfowethu.

Henceforth I will restrain myself from responding to your myopic childish, and stupid drivel. Talking to you ration and reason is like talking to Mugabe free and fair elections: you both have no capacity to comprehend such concepts.