sanibonani zihlobo, bangane kanye lezitha
i have been reading all the posting from various walks of life in the forum, but i am not full convinced with all these inkulumo zasebhawa, ukuphupha okukhona lana
bafowethu why cant we start a fund to solve all these problems we always discuss about in the forum isibonelo, every one is crying freedom for isizwe sikaMthwakazi but no one is will to come forward with tangible reasonable solution.to mention a few; 1:The zambezi water project
2:The lack of electricity(you can add up the list)
kungani singavuli isikhwama so that everyone even not Mthwakazian will contribute towards for example getting water from zambezi. i believe amongst us there a lot of profesional people who can assist with research, survey etc.akukhathalekile ukuthi ukuphi komhlaba, but if we want this work, we can set a committe in every diaspora region or no diaspora to make funding
uyazi lichaza yini, yikuthi libelilokhu likhongapho lithumela onyoko kanye lezihlobo impahla in what ever format emakhaya, bona bebhizi bevotela iZanu so that you have reasons to be in diaspora, umhlaba usizwele ubuhlungu ukuthi siyahlupheka, bafethu vukani emaqandeni , dont be donor dependency, ake sizame ukuzenzela so people will believe we can do things our own way,hayi ukuhlala sicela sukuzonke, sifuna ukuzwelwa usizi ngumhlaba.now that you earn pounds,rands,dollars what ever valued current you have lets have plans to sustain our selves as isizwe.abanye benu bana business making millions or you know friends or relative who donate to end this misery.
okwenu yikugijimela kumaInternet Cafe lisiyowumana kuphela, iyophela indaba kaMgabe lo elivika ngaye , do you have plan B, or lizohlala lisheshela izalukazi zabelungu lirobha thina lizibiza ukuthi lingoNurse. lets use this forum contructively and have realistic goals or sihlale sikhala ngomumo and drink beer and forget for a day.bantu bakithi we are own enemies ngokuba short sited, look now abanye benu ngomalaisha or you have brothers who are in that trade, please talk to them, not to continue illegal teenagers from and sell them as sex slaves to Nigerians or for 2010, i am the big brother, i am watching, not very long you be sorry. you all ran to this forum to discuss about the recent xenophobic attacks, instead of coming with solutions you went on to talk wrong info like one fool who went on to Steve Tshwete was a Zulu,home affairs minister, get your facts right before you shit on this forum.
Manje lithini lizimisele yini ukwehlukana lamacent athize and start a good cause for the nation, liyahola musi or liyantshontsha, one or the other.lets set a fund and start with water problem, probably when we approach donors to say we managed so much, akeligcwalisele kuyazwakala.Next time when you come to the nations with the idea of an independent Mthwakazi nation, bazolilalela, hayi manje lisebhawa lonke, liyazi musi inkulumo yebhawa isala khona,as much as these new technology yokuwumana
Mina ngizimisela madoda ukukhupha okuncane
Remember, akuthiwa mina kuthiwa THINA
yimi uGodlwayo omuhle,uMahlabayithwala, omnyama ngenkani, ungambona ebomvu umbuze kunina.

Godlwayo,
Umahlabayithwale
Amalala ndawonye

Its shows ukuthi ungu Godlwayo sibili, inkulumo yakho ilokwakha phakathi. I think its a good idea. Lami ngivumelana lesikhulumi esisanda kuhlala phansi. I second umbono wakho.

Solong life ibhasi ka Khipha

Akuqale wena ukukhupa imali

MFOWETHU NEJANA
Ungahlambazi abantu bengakonelanga. Khangela kahlekahle ukuthi kulamaregistrants amangaki la enkundleni, ube subheka njalo uzibuze ukuthi uhlakaniphe ukudlula abantu bonke laba na, and also ask youreslf whether there may be something you are not understanding. Your posting shows something completely different to what you suggest you are. Ungenzi abanye iziphukuphuku, akulunganga inoma kusenziwa loba yini.

ngiyakuzwa mthethwe
bengingaqondile ukukuthuka noma nje ukuhlambalaza uMthwakazi, kodwa nje bengithe lets draw our selves closer to real or these are just posting meant ukushova isikhathi, then i will refrain and join ibandla, talk more with no practicality.
into nje sizwe lets stop shooting each other down, or lezi izinto esizikhuluma lana ziyo sala lana, never going to be transfered to reality,yikho nje bengifanisa lenkulumo zebhawa ngoba esikhathini esiningi zisala lapho, or they go forward if there was a fight. Makhokhoba nawe unje awunge umane ufake imali without knowing the proper structures of where your money is going to
we are all over the world probably forced by one reason mainly because of the oppression by the Zanu cronies, but our families are still back home.lets think about them or life after, what we going to do,what will we say we achieved, writing hate speeches on web!. come on bafethu, isikhathi sokuphupha siphelile,selingomshawendoda umbuso kakhulu ususeduze lokushabalala.how long are still going on diaspora or whatever you want to call it
i may be forward or out of context, but iqiniso koze kubenini sisola abanye abantu or ezinye inhlanga for our problems.
any one who felt offended by what i said,sorry, i know change is difficulty, we are just used to ukwamukela sikhathi sonke
Godlwayo omuhle

I have my Mthwakazi fund which I am running, unfortunately kenabelungu phakathi kangazi ukuthi uMthwakazi uzayithatha njani lindaba, kodwa my white fellaz (Rhodesians) and I are more than prepared. Isimo ma silunga ezweni siyangena and futhi sizasebenza.

Ma lifuna we can start the Matebeleland Fund eyabe ingena ku Stock market lakwezinye nje indawo zokuthola inzunzo yemali. Abantu baka Mthwakazi are just armchair supporters leli liqiniso. We are good at the blame game like my brother said.

Nejan, kawuthuka muntu wena liqiniso

sawubona Ivovo mfan'omdala
uyabona mfoka wabo, abantu bayathanda ukukhohlisana ngamanga, they feel more comfortable living in the world of fantasy.
we all know and aware ukuthi yini uMthwakazi, uba kunabantu who are interested in developing and investing in the nation regardless of the race,creed,tribe, as long as it serves the interest of Mthwakazi, why not.we want the nation to be rich in infrastructure, services delivery, zonke lezo azizi mahala or through posting nonsense on the forum, we need to sacrifice a few things in our lives including pride(obviously empty).
lets make as i said regional contributions, even we get into that,we can start with establishing committee members for each diaspora region, liyazi money cannot be on the hands of one person, but if choose amongst our selves people to reppresent us , we know each in our regions even though we use pyseudo names here for safety, but siyazi ubani ngubani or sizazoyazana ngokuya kwesikhathi.bafethu singazibhekile phansi we have a lot of proffesional serving on foreign land of which singahlala phansi ubani ngubani , you will be surprise to see engineers,bankers,lawyers,drivers,strategists, etc.asibambaneni bantu bakithi sizenzele ngokwethu, ingane zethu ziyosibonga kusasa, even the wealthiest nations probably started from scratch. nathi we can do it
lets think about it, i will never lose hope, ngeyinye imini, somebody will see things differently like me.

i know i am upsetting others, but some will see the light beyond this darkness

So reality to you is that our people must be killed? Uvumelana lakho lokhu? Kumbe is it that we must put down money for the Zambezi water project? Omunye abesekutshengisa ukuthi you did not really put much thought into that asethi"you put down the money first" and wena suyathi awungeke ufake imali ungazi la eyakhona, what do you mean?
Ma utshela abantu bonke laba uthi bayaphupha uzwa njani wena emoyeni wakho. Abanye ngabakhe sona sigxingi lesi oseyisa kangaka uphinde uposte kiso.
Yona ishaya fm uyake uyishaye na? If you havenot pliz do and feel the difference leradio 2 wezanu. This shaya music station has revived many of us, for we had been subjected to a foreign song too long and that can kill, trust me.

Ngike ngabona abanye bathi befika la babuza ukuthi kungabe kukhona na osekwakhiwe so that we they did not have to re-invent the wheel. I think that was wisdom on their part. In short akuchithwa sikhathi nje kuphela lana, kwakhiwa isizwe. I for one I have built serious staff because of this forum.

Since ufikile la I have not seen one soul engingathi was shooting at you, but you have certainly showed much aggression. Uthi abantu bayaphupha, bakhuluma inkulumo zebhawa, kulabanye abangasizala khona la. Inhlonipho wethu.

inkinga mfokaMthethwa,you dont understand me or my contributions .
angivumelani lodlame to human nature or animals for that matter.
trying to contribute funds towards the project kuhambelana njani lodlame lwexenophobia.the MZWP was just isibonelo senkinga we are faced manje probably forever in Mthwakazi.dont read between lines then run riot, uyathanda ukwesashwa, hayi ukuhlonishwa, kumele sithule ngoba sekukhulume wena, hayi ngesikhathi samanje
the whole gist was about talking about development in our our community qha.if that has been said before , bekumele usho than saying i am reinventing the wheel. mina mfan'omdala ngiyayithanda idebate, but ayibe constructive and may forward, hayi ukube sidlephana ngento edlule.well ishaya fm ifm ngiyayilalela, its good to remind ourselves about home, then what,after it what do we do about our situation,sihlale phansi sisonge izandla. ngendlela engikucasula ngakhona, i can guess use UK, (maybe Wrong), so mfanomdala have you ever thought about what will happen if bob is off the picture, uzimisele yini ukuza ekhaya and share with us your valuable experience, your exposure so as to use it for ukuthuthukisa isizwe. (you put down the money first" and wena suyathi awungeke ufake imali ungazi la eyakhona, what do you mean?)-this i was replying another contributor to say we can establish to see ukuthi our funds are not going to enrich somebody. did you read what Ivovo said and my reply to that, visit that maybe it will clear the air on that one.okunjalo ke bafo if we countinue like this until bob is off and we are all free most probably to go back, we head home empty handed, then you will see that we were only halucinating,
Mthwente, yeka ukuba ngu editor wami akuze nombono ongcono okuthuthukisa isizwe, ngoba mina bengizama ukubonisa abanye, not meaning you were not aware, find something positive on what iam saying or correct it to be positively, iqiniso linjalo mfethu linzima ukuliyamkela, njalo lets help each out this misery, i mean those of us who can help.
inkinga yakho ucabanga nginguamfikizolo , maybe angazi lutho, cha mfethu i have been here, affected badly about the situation, i have passed the stage of being bitter, now my focus yikuthi asithuthukiseni, the wounds will heal with times
i think you will agree with me ngokuya kwesikhathi
There is more to life than crying over spilled milk

Bafowethu.

With all due respect, mina I believe MTHWAKAZI will only be able to START, RUN and MAINTAIN any projects ONLY in a free MTHWAKAZI STATE.

I am a living example of what happens if you try to start projects under your enemy's GVT.
1. In 1981 we started to contribute money towards NITRAM - ZANU pretended we had weapons on our properties and therefore our ECONOMIC VENTURES were shattered by a GVT which had not prepared itself to run the country, BUT WERE WAITING TO USE UP WHAT THE THIEVING RHODESIANS HAD BUILT WITH OUR SWEAT AND BLOOD.
2. The BULAWAYO CITY FATHERS set up the Matebeleland Zambezi Water Project. We all started to contribute, I have my STANDARD CHARTERD CHECKS up to today to prove how much I contributed into that fund. Suddenly the ZANU GVT decided it will appoint who sits in that board and our money was channeled into paying unscrupulous foreign companies which were said to be carrying out FEASIBILITY STUDIES after FEASIBILITY STUDIES with no outcome.

Konke lokhu yikuzama ukwenza into UNGELA LIZWE LAKHO.

YES, THE NDEBELE PEOPLE THINK POSITIVE. WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE TRIBAL. WE ARE NOT AT ALL TRIBAL. THE NDEBELE ARE NOT A TRIBE. BUT IN OUR ENDEVOUR TO ERASE "TRIBALISM", HAVE WE EVER STOPPED TO THINK IF OUR OPPOSITE NUMBER DOES THE SAME?????

We seek sympathy from the DEVIL.

Create your own PLATFORM, on which you will be able to raise funds which can not be diverted for the betterment of those who do not wish you well.

SEDLULA KHONAPHO THINA. ASIYIBONI SIYIGXOBA FUTHI LEYO NDLELA. MTHWAKAZI, CONTRIBUTE TO MTHWAKAZI REGARDLESS OF YOUR POLITICAL AFFILIATION.

Vuka Mthwakazi, We have no business in Zimbagwe.

Li Zwangendaba.

Nejana

You are one of the most confused persons on these forums, you think too high of yourself, you don't know how to put across your good ideas. Your pomposity is your downfall. Awuzazi ukuthi unyonini, kanti kwakhala nyonini lapha kuwe? Kweyinye ithread uzibiza ukuthi unguMjahunda kodwa ubuye weqe uzibize uGodlwayo, udidwa yini muntu wakithi?
Yazi indlela obhala ngayo iyangicunula, ayihloniphi, uzeza wena ongcono, uzenza wena olemibono emihle kulabo bonke abantu, ake ungitshele sihlobo sami, wumuphi umbono owubhalileyo ongakaze uxukuxwe lapha eNkundleni. Funda ukuhlonipha, i can sense a good man in you.

With all due respect ng'bona ingathi bengingalahlekanga muva lapho ngichothoza imibono yakho kwithread yodlakela olwama immigrants eSouth Africa.Ngivumela mnumzana ukukubonisa ukuthi uyaphupha sibili libalele kumbe yikuqabuka ukuba senkundleni zeinternet suloba noma yini eyabe uyiphuphile ubona ngathi yinto eworth ukuletha lapha.Akuzithinte m'fethu..."armchair supporters"? - the cheek of it.Nigga pliz!

Nejana
Wena mfo kungani uvele ulesmoko. I have not said anything to you. All I did was to reflect with you your posting. Just to clarify issues as you had put them down. Angicelanga ukuthi ungesabe, I did not assert anything that u would say I m forcing my opinions on you. Anyway let us move on

Nejana
Mfowethu,its such a commendable thing ukuthi in our midst kulabantu abacabangela umthwakazi,sikutshayela ihlombe and we will support your gallant cause in whichever way we can.Kodwa ke zwana lapha,ungabothi ma ufika endaweni ube usuqala ukuthuka abantu,talking down to them,making it seem as if wenaq u-superior,phela sonke siyalingana la enkundleni,for you to say people are shitting in this forum is uncalled for,for you to say"some fool called Tswete a zulu" is utter nonsense,ngoba yimi engakhuluma ngeskhukhula ngathi uminister at that time was zulu,for your own info i was referring to Buthelezi,so you should teach yourself to read.There is a saying yokuthi"the emptiest drums make the loudest noise",lest this saying be used to refer to you,come up with a follow up to your suggestion,look at people like uMziesta,he didint go to the highest mountain and blow a horn ukuthi simbone before esenza into ebukekayo,he went and showed us ukuthi he is a drum egcweleyo,rolling on a bumpy surface kodwa ingabangi umsindo.Dont get me wrong,im not starting a war with you,siyancedisana ukwakha,and at times like these amaqiniso abalululekile.If you want to help,by all means,help,but just dont insult us at the same time,you never know,you might need us k'sasa

Bafowethu, not to seem childish but please simplify this for me. Mbaleki when you referred to "iskhukhula" ubuhlanganisa sona namaZulu or uShenge (MG Buthelezi). Ubani owayehola "iskhukhula"?

Khululeka mntakababa you dont sound childish at all,in a way bengisihlanganisa nama zulu,do you remember the time uButhelezi ebonakala ehamba nama pholisa ekhombela abantu ababukeka engathi bangama foreigner,you could see him on Bok street,eHielderberg flat or e-Noord taxi rank,but then again perhaps yimi engisuke ngaba childish ngokuthi umzulu oyedwa(uButhelezi) engayenza into ewrong,besengigcona bonke

mthakathi27
ngiyabonga bafo ngokusho kwakho, kodwa ngingazi awuzwanga, i will let it go.ngithe mina sathuthela eMajawundeni sisuka ko Godlwayo, angazi lokho sokungenza uMjahunda yini. kanti wena ungasuka uyehlala ebasuthini uyajika ube ngumsuthu na?
i might be confused, but i think you worse than me
angizenzi ongcono and i am nowhere close to that, i was relating to what i read on this forum.
my sin was to air my views like everyone but little concern over how are we going to handle the crisis after era.
anyway bafowethu those felt insulted with my comments or their egos bruiesd, i am deeply sorry, bengingaqondileyo ukuhlambaza isizwe.
but inkinga yikuthi kuzokubenini sikhala sisonge izandla, i may be the wrong,rude now,but kusasa liyeza with no bob in picture, yikho mhlawumbe esizoqala khona ukuvuka emaqandeni, remember ivuka ibanjwa yizinja.
mthakathi27, nginguGodlwayo mfethu noma sengineminyaka ngasuka, kodwa inkaba yami yasala koMahlabayithwala,ngenziwa ngumumo ukuba semaJahundeni.
Mbaleki mfethu, the only guy who went on pointing and responsibly for iSikhukhula mfethu is the late minister of safety and security "STEVE VUKILE TSWETE, hayi MG Buthelezi. i am not superoir bafo, to call me any empty vessel, i dont think so, what empty if i am trying to bring to our brothers and sister the situation we are in, okwamanje ngikhuluma nje there is no water in byo, that is empty to you, maybe uhleli kahle lapho okhona , but by the look of things, i beg to differ.
writting in forums sometimes dont drive correctly the point home, but if sit down we can learn a lot from each other
do you all guys think there was nothing positive i wrote in this forum, then i can believe i am right to say we are all in dreamland or eMathonisa.
bafowethu asiyibhekisisseni kahle lendaba, hayi ukuthi ize nobani, ngoba we will meet these challenges not very long.
Zwangendaba lets not give up bafowethu, yes that happened but asilungiseleni uvuka kukaMtwakazi,
dont give up the fight now.
Still Godlwayo

Nejana
Mfowethu ube ungazange uchaze ukthi wathuthela eMajahundeni. Mina ngithe lapho ngifunda lapho obe ubhale khona ngathola usithi wena unguMjawunda kodwa kwenye wabuya wathi unguGodlwayo. Kodwa kuhle ngoba usuchazile manje, ngiyayamukela ingcazelo yakho. Mr Nejana i think you are missing a point here, noone said that what you raised here is useless or senselessly worthless, no, into nje esikhala ngayo yindlela obhala ngayo uthethisa isizwe. Okunengi okubhalileyo inengi labantu lapha have written about, it never caused any offence because it is true that we are becoming too comfortable in the cyber space and doing virtually nothing on the ground. We need to do something or else we betraying our future and our future generations' futures. uGodlwayo wazakala ngembheko, inhlonipho phela, wena unguGodlwayo onjani ongahloniphi umphakathi? Nqanda ulimi lwakho ubone noma sizoqhubeka sibhala ngalendlela ngawe.

Mnumzane ngiyabonga ngempendulo yakho, its not that I joined Inkundla izolo lika bula hatshi cha. Ukusungulwa kwenkundla lami bengikhona, I started using internet kudala mnumzana mhlawumbe wena uselusa imbuzi. If you thing am dreaming about what am doing angazi ukuthi ukuthatha ngaphi. The fact that ungibona ngibhala la eNkundleni and ubusucabanga ukuthi I cannot do such a thing, yikungikhangelela phansi njalo uzikhangelela phansi coz you think that no one from mthwakazi can run a fund.. Uyangethusa.

i started using this site uBongani esafake le chatroom mzala, we used to gather ku chatroom ngama Fridays as uMthwakazi ku cyber. bongani used to entertain us with uMusic, DJ Noxolo was among people used to entertain us njalo, I will not talk of this guy ose Newcastle so kangiqalanga ukusebenzisa i internet izolo, let alone Inkundla chaaaaaaaaa.

angazi mfethu kumbe isiNdetshu sami asicacanga or mhlawumbe awufundanga kahle.Ngithe NgiseMajahundeni njalo NginguGodlwayo, get the differnce btwn the two words(plainly put....i am staying at....and i am .....)akukho muntu engimthethisayo and i dont want spend my energy on the negative.if you feel insulted hayi angazi ngoba mina ngixolisile ngoba ukuzwisisa kuyehlukana.
abantu abafani in expressing their views, others are harsh and to the point, whilst they like being too cosy noma kungadingeki, loyo othi weza ngenhlonipho, ngiyambongela, kodwa ke mfokaMthakathi honestly speaking get used to know ukuthi mina naye asifani, even twins wont the tasks the same way.ngizoqanda ulimi lwami, but nawe think out of the box and think of me not as a newcomer but a contributor ngoba ukuba mdala enkundleni yikho okwenza iphathimandla eziningi zingafuni ukurizayina ngoba they accept imbono yabanye,ngiyavuma ukwelulekwa kodwa hayi umbuze ngomafikizolo,ongelambeko,nhlonipho, dont you think thats more insulting than those insults i am accused of and of which i am not aware.
well bafo angithandi lendlela esikuyo, its unproductive ngoba we just on which other of which it was not my aim. ngethemba uzoyithola lenhlonipho okhala ngayo

Mr Nejana, i think we are now ready to engage in constructive discussion. Let us now go back to the topic and discuss it robustly without calling each other names. If i called you names, let me take this opportunity to say sorry.

Yes Sir we can move on to more productive issues, but sorry the above was not our contribution in the first place. Did you say you were not aware of your insults?

ngiyabonga Mthwente njalo ngiyaxolisa ngokubhala kanje.
empeleni akuzona inhlamba lezi ntakaMa, this is what is happening everyday,be it SA or UK, thats the reality of what is happening to our people. ayikho leyodwa ihlamba ngokuyenza lokhu, please lets stop embracing wrong things and making them right. 1:didnt ubob get votes in parts of Mthwakazi, who is voting? me or you, i doubt.2:after the elexander fiasco, we were the first to talk about it here, did anyone of us go there and try to help,ziltch or we could at least have accomodated some of our fellows.3:its so irritating and kuyangicunula ngoba omalaisha they come with our sisters to joburb, keep them captives, if the relative doesnt have money , what happens, they are sold to nigerians as sex slaves to cover expenses hayibo!!, akusiyo unzwabethi, seen that.4:do you the remember the airport heist,where were the culprits found, if you dont know, find out, most of us guys ngamasele period!,its a way of life to them, of course some of us working hard for our living.5:to me to make such political incorrect statement of saying steve was a zulu,yibulima(plainly being foolish), remember there are a lot of people who reads these posting worldwide, even those we hate,or disasociate with.
6: people say jokes about national tragedy, not caring about the affected, lokho kwenzakala ebhawa kuphela if not most of the time.
mfoka bawo we are involved in indaba ezingakhi isizwe, but we have to do this to be on the same page.
any way some egos are bruised, but lets look facts as they are.
Ivovo pintshi yami kumele sidibane, ngizocela ubig brother walendawo asidibanise, cos i like your idea, we can continue with what you have started, nginethembe lokuthi inengi lizosixasa in our initiative, even the worst critics will soon agree with us.
akuzona inhlamba lezi, ngamaqiniso
Godlwayo always

Nejana
Mfanekhaya masizokwenza any progress mina lawe, come down, dismount your high horse. Such highmindedness is unhelpful.How is it only you is got solutions for all these issues? Khonamanje uthi akuzihlamba lezi? Are you fighting a premeditated war? Ngubani okurobhe wathi ungunurse? Utshela umphakathi wonke lo uthi basheshela izalukazi, ngezakuphi lezi zalukazi okhuluma ngazo.Ujike uthi awuthethisanga muntu, what pride is that? Silabantu abadala enkundleni la, labo ubatshela uthi "onyoko" Yiyo imfundiso yakwaGodlwayo le? By the way sikhule labo abafana bakwaGodlwayo, kade bengethusi ngitsho, kade bengamangalisi, konke lokhu okumemezela la ngoGodlwayo, its wishful thinking. The same blood that flows in you is the same that flows in us. You have a sharp unruly tongue. Its beginning to sound like ungu-gold fingers. ABANYE BAZWEKWAKHA WENA UFUNA UKUBAKHUTHUZA. Phela awuzwakali lokuthi uthini, lapha umuntu ekunikezi thuba to hear you out ubamba lapha lalapha awulampande. And still we have respected you as one of us but wena nguwe ophange uthi abantu bayawumana. Awu suka bo, jahelidala ungenwa yini.Yini ungaqali wena something on the ground uthi usuzosimema thina ziphofu indlela ma isivuthiwe. Or if you need to start together with us, we are on ground level and not atop mount Everest like you. We are ready to build serious things, but we dont need teachers , for we teach one another. You want to suggest to all this people ukuthi akusihlamba ukuthi abantu bakhuluma engani basebhawa. Ye bantu inhlamba asiyazi namhlokhu. Ngubani owakhe isite le, laye ukhuluma engani usebhawa. Uyazazi inhlanganiso ezilwela uzibuse kaMthwakazi. Thina abanye sifunde ngazo khona lapha besingazazi. Uyayazi ihistory kaMthwakazi, thina abanye siyiqondisise khona lapha. Uyayazi igrand plan thina abanye sizwe ngayo khona lapha. Uyayazi imvuselelo yenkululekop kaMthwakazi? Konke lokhu sikufunde lapha, and here comes you Godlwayo try to talk down this great people. HAYI MANI WETHU, Ma uzokwakha asixoxisaneni, sifundisane,sakhane kube kuhle kubenje, njengosendo lwenkosi. We really dont need to know about who the 'bob the builder' you are, for asikhethi muntu la enkundleni, so it wont matter who abc is abd who xyz is. All people are the same to us, The kingdom kaMzilikazi was built on an all-inclusive principle. We are not interested in whether unguGodlwayo owazalw' ekhuluma noma elamazinyo omhlathi, that is not our baby, our baby is independence from this heated zanu oppression esifesane nayo. Ndoda hambo joina iparty silwelu zibuse kulalokhu
ukutshon'usethusela ngezinto ezingelamsebenzi.Singaze sethuke uzawinani?

Well said Mthwentwehlaba1.

i dont want to sound like i have a problem with you, concetrating to every bit of distractive conversation we now engaged, akula mphumela, ngoba we are working on our differnces on approach. all what you said about me i will let it pass ngoba since you posted on this, you were all out against me, so angiyazi inkinga yakho, kungathi kakhulu ekutheni simoshe isikhathi sqondisana amagwegwe.we are losing the big picture mfoka bawo.
if i insulted you or anyone, i am sorry sizwe sakithi, find in your heart to forgive me.
i can see ukuthi you dont want yourself a chance to understand me, angazi ke yiphi impande ongayiboni lana.if i contnue replying your posting ngizongcina ngiphuma kunhlonso yami,i am nowhere close to teaching anyone angazi ukuthathaphi lokho.i will ignore inkulumo yakho for sake of continuity

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