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#40360 - 09/29/08 08:40 AM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: Kirth_Dube]
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Nduna
Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 323
Loc: Canada
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I have listened to that clip, it seems to me that the MPC is a one man organisation, the only credible face is Zwangendaba. The MPC has done nothing different, this so called launch is a farce. You are still in hiding. I also read your president's internet launch speech, i have to agree that he is a great speech writer but he has been doing this for too long. Is this the launch you promised us? You must be joking, we still don't know your president. My advise to you is to go back to the drawing board, stop telling people lies, re-strategise and come back to us when you are ready. I am really dissappointed at you.
Edited by Mthakathi27 (09/29/08 09:34 AM)
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#40383 - 09/30/08 08:23 PM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: Mthakathi27]
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Nduna
Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 323
Loc: Canada
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Maybe i need to keep quiet and shut my big mouth, i was listening to SWRADIO,ngezwa insizwa zeMPC zikhuluma lapho. Ngithande kakhulu uNkululeko loDube, ibizo lika Dube angilizwanga kuhle. Heyi bezikhula izinsizwa, isikhiwa siphuma ngamakhala. Ngilitshayela ihlombe zinsizwa zakithi, muhle umsebenzi wenu. Kodwa lingacabangi ukuthi selifikile loma selenze konke, mina i am waiting for the day lapho engizokuzwa upresident wenu emoyeni, laye bemqamba ngebizo, lapho ngizabe sengikholisekile.
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Ngingumthakathi wezigodo, umkhunkuli, angibhenyelwa nsangu mina, lizowukhomba olotshwala.
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#40384 - 10/01/08 12:13 AM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: Mthakathi27]
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 06/20/07
Posts: 6
Loc: At Large
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Isikhundla sika President sisavulekile silindele uMthakathi wezigodo ukuba ajoyine bese evotelwa kiso.
Woza sikulindele wena ohamba ebusuku.
Vuuuuu! Khutshu khutshu.......
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#40385 - 10/01/08 12:53 AM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: Sili_Elikhulu]
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Nduna
Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 323
Loc: Canada
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Iseluleko sami for the future yilesi, uma lisiya emsakazweni hambani libophe ntonye, it is very important to have a theme for the interview. The mistake engicabanga ukuthi liyenzile yikuthi liconcentrethe ekublameni lekuathakheni iZANU loMgabe. That was not the right time for that, obekufanele likwenze yikuthi linikeze uMthwakazi ukuthi iMPC iyini, imeleni njalo ihloseni, lokuthi kungani ikhethe isecession, you need to convince people. Okubizwa ngesikhiwa ngokuthi ngama aims and objectives kunye le program of action. An interview without a structure is very difficult and confusing. If you take this as negative criticism then i don't know, because this is meant to built you up, recognising that you might be inexperienced in the field. I am not suggesting that i am experienced or knowledgeable, but i feel that an opportunity like this one should have been used more effectively. I have no doubt that the gentlemen were capable and able, what lacked was a clear plan for the interview, there was absolutely no reason to concentrate on the recently signed agreement by zanu and mdc the way you did. Bekumele sibili lisichazele kabanzi ngeMPC lokuthi izokhulula kanjani uMthwakazi. The other thing, never go to an interview without memorising the reasons for secession, by all means possible please don't mention gukurahundi as a reason for Mthwakazi's desire to have a seperate state, i am not saying it is not, but for political reasons it should only be used as a last resort.
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Ngingumthakathi wezigodo, umkhunkuli, angibhenyelwa nsangu mina, lizowukhomba olotshwala.
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#40387 - 10/01/08 10:16 PM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: Mthakathi27]
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 06/20/07
Posts: 6
Loc: At Large
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Woz' ekhaya uzencedisa uphakathi komuzi hatshi emathuneni. Alubana weza kudala ngabe akukho lensolo oza layo.
Ngithemba awusiso sipoki kodwa ulegazi loba ligijima nyovane. Woza ekhaya uhlukane lethambo ledonki ngaphandle komuzi.
Vuuuuu! Khutshu! Amalangabi.....!!!!!!
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#40402 - 10/03/08 11:09 PM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: Sili_Elikhulu]
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 02/14/08
Posts: 42
Loc: emazweni njengabanye
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Woz' ekhaya uzencedisa uphakathi komuzi hatshi emathuneni. Alubana weza kudala ngabe akukho lensolo oza layo.
Ngithemba awusiso sipoki kodwa ulegazi loba ligijima nyovane. Woza ekhaya uhlukane lethambo ledonki ngaphandle komuzi.
Vuuuuu! Khutshu! Amalangabi.....!!!!!! Your use of the onomatopoeia of fire and its action as a signature is impressive. However the arsonist undertones and your possible preoccupation with anhilation are all too apparent and unsettling. It is my hope that you are a well collected and balanced individual who is just too good with 'isindebele' in his own way and not neccessarily vindictive or mischievious as you seem dangerously and almost primitively fascinated by fire. It does not help that you affiliate with an organisation that is yet to really cut its teeth with the grassrots and conventional civil politics of Zimbabwe. Otherwise your posts are very interesting! Xola!
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#40404 - 10/04/08 12:16 PM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: uzphoso]
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 05/21/08
Posts: 77
Loc: UK
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Mthakathi, You come out as a very intelligent Mthwakazian loba nje ngingavumelani lawonke amaviews akho on other issues lapha enkundleni, I still accord you the status somuntu okhaliphileyo. I feel ukuthi nxa uNkulunkulu evuma singahlangana ngithemba singezwana njalo ngikuthengele ikholi njengomuntu wakithi. MPC has finally come out madoda siyalinxusa lokukhalipha kwenu ngobunengi lizoncendisa ukwakha isizwe sikaMzilikazi. Ngiyabonga.
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#40409 - 10/05/08 07:29 PM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: Sili_Elikhulu]
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Sikhulu
Registered: 03/16/08
Posts: 299
Loc: uk
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Sili kunjani wethu? mina ngisaphila. kodwa mfo yini ngamathambo embongolo ngoMthakathi? xola mfo, naye unelungelo lokusho noma yini uma engathuki muntu. uMthakathi ngithemba ukuthi ungomunye wethu naye ufuna lokho okufunwa yithina sonke singuMthwakazi.
empeleni kwamina nginokungamtholisisi kahle. uma ephawula uthi makungakhulunywa ngegugulawundi as if that is the reason we Mthwakazi want out of zimbambwe. yini nje leyo. that is axactly one of the reason we want out. so why does he not want it mentioned? the aim of igugulawundi was to wipe the Mthwakazi out. so why must we not mention it? how can we live with a people that want to wipe us out?
the other point he makes is that the MPC need to tell us what they stand for. really? usekhona umuntu ongazi ukuthi sifuna ukuphuma kulenxovani ye zimbambwe? we were never one. had it not for gugulawundi we would have stayed namatshona. had it not been the Grand plan we would have stayed namaTshona. yizenzo zabo zobuthakathi ezisenza sifune ukusuka kubo ngoba that is our only hope for survival.
so uMthakathi uyangixaka uma ethi makungakhulunywa ngezenzo lezi ezisenza sifune ukusuka kumaTshona. kodwa phela kungenzeka unephuzu mhlawumbe akalibekanga kahle. mangixolise Sili wethu uma ngikuphathe kabi. sala kahle wethu.
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#40412 - 10/05/08 08:45 PM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: duze]
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Nduna
Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 323
Loc: Canada
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empeleni kwamina nginokungamtholisisi kahle. uma ephawula uthi makungakhulunywa ngegugulawundi as if that is the reason we Mthwakazi want out of zimbambwe. yini nje leyo. that is axactly one of the reason we want out. so why does he not want it mentioned? the aim of igugulawundi was to wipe the Mthwakazi out. so why must we not mention it? how can we live with a people that want to wipe us out? Mnumzana Duze, usuphendukile njalo ngehloka lakho. Ngiyakuzwa uyakhuluma, uthi indaba yami ayiqondakali loma angiyibekanga kuhle. Angazi bekumele ngiyibeka njani loma kanjani, kodwa ngokukhulu ukubekezela ngizazama ukuthi ngichaze ukuthi kungani ngithe akungafakwa phambili indaba yeGukukurahundi. Ngiyathemba uzwile ukuthi ngithe igukukurahundi issue ingasetshenziswa kodwa as i last resort. Isizatho salokho kemfowethu yikuthi asisaphili njengesihlenge (island) njalo indaba ezifana lalezi ziletha inzondo lokufa. Uma sizothola usekelo ngumhlaba wonke jikelele kufanele singagijimisi indaba ezibucayi njengalezi phambili. Siyeza isikhathi sakhona, kodwa uma kusakhiwa kusakhaswa njalo kusaphenjwa indlela kufanele ukuthi sinanzelele kakhulu. Asfuni ukuthi saziwe njengabantu abangelangqondo, abantu abathanda ukulwa, abantu abathanda impi. We must always have the moral high ground compared to our detractors. Uthi wena akekho umuntu ongaziyo ngokufunwa yiMPC, uleqiniso lakho lokho? Even abantu besazi kufanele ukuthi iMPC ithengisele abantu iprogram of action, ngingazi njalo loma wena uyalwazi lolohlelo? Angithandabuzi ngokuzinikela kwakho emsebenzini wesizwe sikaMthwakazi, kodwa ngicabanga ukuthi kwesinye isikhathi uthathela izinto phezulu ngaphandle kokucabanga ngokujulileyo. Ngicabanga ukuthi ungeza isotsha elihle kakhulu kodwa angazi ukuthi ungalunga kwezepolotiko. Akumelanga sizilulaze, njalo akumelanga udaba olumqoka njenge ndaba yegukurahundi ukuthi siyilulaze, kumele sicabange ngaphambi kokuthi siyisebenzise, akuyona into yamahlaya leyi. Do not get me wrong, i believe ukuthi iMPC is the right political movement to deal ngendaba yegukurahundi, kodwa kumele ijulise umqondo uma izoyisebenzisa, kbe lenhlelo eziqondileyo. Mr Duze, indaba yegukurahundi akusona isizathu esisenza sifune ukuphuma ezimbabgwe sibe lelethu ilizwe, even indaba yegukurahundi ingekho besizofuna ukuphuma ngoba vele kumele siphume. Mina ngingathi ngikubuza ukuthi kungani uMthwakazi efuna elakhe ilizwe, wena ungiphendule ngokuthi yisizatho segukurahundi, ngiyakuhleka ngikubambile ukuze ubone ukuthi kulilungelo lakho ukuthi ujulise umqondo.
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Ngingumthakathi wezigodo, umkhunkuli, angibhenyelwa nsangu mina, lizowukhomba olotshwala.
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#40454 - 10/06/08 09:53 PM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: Mthakathi27]
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Sikhulu
Registered: 03/16/08
Posts: 299
Loc: uk
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Mthakathi nkunzi ngiyezwa. kodwa wethu mina ngithi kube amaTshona awazange asibulale ngesihluku ngegugulawundi mhlawumbe besizohlala nabo. kube abasibandlululi kube besizohlalanabo. ngisasho namanje ukuthi kungasizenzo zobusathane bamaTshona kube sisahleli nabo. asikaze sibe yisizwe esisodwa namatshona. yes.
okunye ngiyezwa ukhuluma ngokuhlonipha isitha sakho. ngempela esintwini kunjalo mfo. angeke ngikuphike lokho. kodwa ukuhlonipha abantu abafuna ukuniqeda nya. iTshona uma likubhekile unguMndebele nizizwa liphansi. very dangerous.ungashongo lutho. so this softly softly my brother stuf respect mina personaly, no. diplomatic talk is trash to me.say it as it is. cold blooded satanic murderers. they done it.
ngisakhula mina kwakuthi indoda inkulu isethusela ithi iyabulala ngivele ngiqonde kuyo ngithi asibulalane. ngiyidibhe phansi kube wonke umuntu ubethukile ethi lesisiqhwaga siyovodloza uDuze amathambo.ngumlilo wamaphepha nje.akakwazi nokulwa. masingaziphonsa kuwo amatshona ngamabhomu sifenabo who says bayosiqeda? that is not a given mfo. david killed goliath. i believe in that. this talk story to me is just a non starter. i respect abathi talk but i also expect respect for my stand point.
if they think we are done ,let that be their down fall. buza abanye abaqhamuka kwaMthwakazi, ngisho izinsizwa uzomangala ukuthi bangakanani abazimisele ukuya kwagoqa as long as ehambe ne few of them. ungathi ngingedwa kanti sibaningi kabi.
we make it unlivable kwaMthwakazi for them.we dont need training. all that is needed is the WILL. that is the way forward. kuze kusho bona ukuthi akuxoxiswane. then sokuzoya nina Mthakathi nepolitiki yenu. niyolungisa. as it is talk, talk? these poeple see us as a spent force. salakahle mfo.
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#40458 - 10/06/08 11:33 PM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: duze]
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Nduna
Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 323
Loc: Canada
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I respect your stand point Mr Duze, bathi konke kulesikhathi sakho, kulesikhathi sokukhuluma njalo kulesikhathi sokwenza impi, isikhathi sokulwa.
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#40460 - 10/06/08 11:43 PM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: Mthakathi27]
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Sakhamuzi
Registered: 05/21/08
Posts: 77
Loc: UK
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Inkosi uMzilikazi yakha isizwe sikaMthwakazi esasigoqela izizwe ezinengi eziyizo ezabumba lesisizwe sakithi. iMPC kayibandlululi ngoba libandla lazozonke izizwe ezakhe phakathi kwe Matebeleland le Midlands. iMPC kayikhulumi ngepolitics yase Zimbabwe njalo okweZimbabwe kayikungeni. iMPC yakha uMthwakazi olenhlonipho ongabandululi izakhamuzi zikaMthwakazi ngobuhlobo. Zimbabwean politics of tribalism will be evicted in UMR. uMTHWAKAZI strives to rebuild King Mzilikazi's vison and lead its people into independence from Zimbabwe.
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#40471 - 10/07/08 02:58 PM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: Mthakathi27]
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Sikhulu
Registered: 03/16/08
Posts: 299
Loc: uk
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Mthakathi wethu kunjani namhlanje la ukhona. cha nsizwa yakwethu ngapha ngakwelakithi sisatotoba sibona ingane ingubhane. ngempela lomfo ongu jazi uzihluphelani ngaye ngale cabal yakhe. ingabe yini icabal leyo oyithanda kangaka. kancane kancane cabal. mina angifuni nokuyazi ngoba ngiyazi ngomunye umbedo nje. mina kwathi kuthi vu Duze ngakutshela ukuthi legama likaDuze ligama lesihumutsheni. libizwa ngamahumusha hayi onompompi abafana naye. manje vele akungithinti.
kodwa on a serious not wethu, nizoxoxisana kuze kubenini namaTshona? fine unepoint. dont rush ukugijima akusikho kufika. but ngempela mfowethu nizoxoxisana nabantu abasizonda singenzelutho? uyezwa basabelesele ngokuthi sizenza abantu abangcono. that mentality. thina siyageza sibe smart asihlali namajazi for 5 years angawashwa. ubheke nje ngomhlaka 12 kuyobe kunjani laphayana. haa uzongibamba isandla usubone ingubo ongakaze uzibone bambathile abafana besintwini. yikuzenza ngcono lokho? masibakhomba sibabiza amasatanic killers yikuzenza ngcono lokho? abakwenzanga lokho kithi? izenzo zobusathane. namhlanje yini nje enzakala laphaya? 3 tshona leaders, bakhuluma same language, bane same culture, pho ababoningani naso isizwe sisifa bo. ngabantu labo enizoxoxisana nabo ngokuzibusa kwethu. wena uhlakaniphi kabi Mthakathi ngoba uyawakhetha amagama akho ufake nesintu ukwenze kubenzima ngempela ukuthi umuntu akuphikise. kodwa phela we must work as a team nee. so your strategy first. nami i must abide by it even though i have my doubts. salakahle wethu uhlukane nalomuntu ngoba akakuphenduli.
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#40494 - 10/09/08 09:30 AM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: uzphoso]
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 06/20/07
Posts: 6
Loc: At Large
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Zphoso ngizakuphonsela phansi ngesijula mnakwethu. Ungaze wathatheka ngesilungu ezintweni zomndeni ngoba zizakukhathaza ukuzizwisisisa.
Mina angifundanga kodwa nami inhlamba ngiyayazi mnakwethu. Ngithi ke nawe nomotopiya yakho.
Ngendaba yomlilo, ngiyakubona ukuba ukhaliphile uhle wayibamba eyokuthi ngingani ngiyawuthanda okwamagama. Namanje njengeSili, umuntu ojwayele ukudla inyama iluhlaza ngokusweleka komlilo, umlilo uyisimanga kimina ikakhulu lo owenkululeko yesizwe sikaMthwakwazi.
Ngiyavuma njalo wena sangoma esikhulu, ungibambile nxa uthi wena angiphucukile. Ye, uyishaye ekhanda ngoba nanamhlokhu ngisaphila ngokusekelana namanqina enkangala yebuThwa. Kodwa ke ngizakutshela ukuba mina ngimuhle ngoba angiziqakisi ngempucuko yezinye izizwe kodwa ngeyami yomdabu.
Kule ke eyokuzimbandakanya neMPC, angazi ukuthi wena usweleni ukuzimbandakanya kuyo ngaphandle kokuthi mhlawumbe usabhema umswane wamagundwana labetshabi. Woza kwethu uzophaquza insango yamakhosi eyinkululeko.
Okokucina ndojelana kumbe uyisifedukazana angazi, hlukana nokupepetsha ngolwimi lokweboleka bese uzibona sengathi ujusi. Uyazilulaza kabi ngalokho. Mina ngiziqhenya ngobhalu, langebhetshu, langesijula, langehawu, langamtshoko ngoba kuyikho okwami okomdabu, Angeboleki lutho besengihamba ngizibetha isifuba okweqhude livela ngemva kwesiphala lapho obekuquthe khona isalukazi.
Vuuu!!!!! asevutha amalangabi, nanko amaputi aseqhuqhumba ezphonsa phansi ngezphoso hk hk hk.
Edited by Sili_Elikhulu (10/09/08 09:40 AM)
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#40495 - 10/09/08 10:01 AM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: Sili_Elikhulu]
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 02/14/08
Posts: 42
Loc: emazweni njengabanye
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Khanya uyazazi sibili njalo kawugagasi.Kuyinto enhle.
Intonje ukukhalipha kwami kwezolwimi lwesingisi langembono ethize ngabantu akutsho ukuthi isintu angisazi kumbe ngiyas'eyisa.Yikuthi nje ngikhuliswe kuqakathekiswa imfundo kanye lokugcina amasiko amahle ethu kodwa sihlukana lalawo amabi.
Xola nxa ubone ngathi ngiyaziqhenya ngalokhu kodwa mina ngithi nguwe uqhude manikiniki.Ubale into ozibhalayo langokuthatheka ngesintu semzansi kwakho nxa uthi ngiyasoma uzabona indlela ozikhukhumeza ngayo sikhathi sonke.
Angilwi ngoba ngiyakholisa okubhalayo njalo ngiyafunda yikho ngizaxolisa nxa kungakuphathanga kahle ngoba ngiyesaba ukutshiselw'endlini nguwe hatshi ukuwiselwa phansi ngesijula (whatever that is!) ngoba ngiyasinda nxa ngingazonda ngeke ukwenze.
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#40497 - 10/09/08 11:16 AM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: uzphoso]
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 06/20/07
Posts: 6
Loc: At Large
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Mina ngilisili mnakwethu. Nxa uthi ngiqina ngolwemzansi, kukuphi emzansi leyo? Kwethu ebuSili, esidikidikini sobuKhalanga eTsholotsho yiyona indlela esikhuluma ngayo le.
Vuuuu! uzavuthwa. Wethuka ungethuselwanga pho mhlazana woxhakalwa ngeziboya ezincuncuncu wothini?
Edited by Sili_Elikhulu (10/09/08 11:18 AM)
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#40499 - 10/09/08 02:55 PM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: Sili_Elikhulu]
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Sikhulu
Registered: 03/16/08
Posts: 299
Loc: uk
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Sili mfowethu umoya phansi boo. haa kangaka. xola skhulu. ingabe kwezenzenjani. kuqalephi ngempela? haa hlisumoya mfo. bathi ayidle izishiyele. wathukuthela kangaka nkunzi bakwenzeni? siyabaxolisela labo abakuphathe kabi mfo.
ahh kodwa ndoda no. no mfo ayindlule. singabantu banye. mina angazi kwenzenjani kodwa ayiphele bafowethu ngoba sekungena nenhlamba ingane ke bafowethu. noma ingasiyo leyo eqonde ngqo kodwa iyezwakala inhlamba. angithembi ukuthi lomfo uZphoso ubhema umswane wembeba. sala kahle.
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#40535 - 10/12/08 12:15 PM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: duze]
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Ngqwele
Registered: 10/07/08
Posts: 127
Loc: LONDON
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Unjani Duze Akubayekeni mani u Zphoso lo Sili baphoselani amalangabi avuthayo. Ngiyayikholisa imibhalo yabo. Ngiyavuma bayathukana kodwa read between the lines here: It is my hope that you are a well collected and balanced individual who is just too good with 'isindebele' in his own way and not neccessarily vindictive or mischievious as you seem dangerously and almost primitively fascinated by fire.
It does not help that you affiliate with an organisation that is yet to really cut its teeth with the grassrots and conventional civil politics of Zimbabwe Manje uthi kalithule iSili leNkosi kuthinteka isiqu salo?
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#40935 - 11/09/08 10:37 AM
Re: MTHWAKAZI PEOPLE'S CONVENTION (MPC)
[Re: Zwangendaba]
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Mafikizolo
Registered: 02/14/08
Posts: 42
Loc: emazweni njengabanye
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Bafowethu.
SONKE KANYE KANYE KHUTSHU VUU! UMLILO WENKULULEKO. KEEP THE FREEDOM FIRE BURNING.
Li Zwangendaba. Seng'ngathi ngiyakubona kuLobengula street usenza amasalamusi wakho okudla umlilo uphinde uwukhafule.
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